From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #521 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, February 28 2008 Volume 16 : Number 521 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: I'm About to Take a Dump in the Pool. Discuss. [Rex ] RE: the conservative slurry ["Bachman, Michael" ] Shadowcat ["Stacked Crooked" ] Re: I'm About to Take a Dump in the Pool. Discuss. [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: I'm About to Take a Dump in the Pool. Discuss. [Rex ] Re: I'm About to Take a Dump in the Pool. Discuss. [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: my previous post... [Michael Sweeney ] reap [Steve Schiavo ] Re: "Mr. Private Property." [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: The existentialistly schizophrenic desert of Jon Arbuckle in Garfield without Garfield [Tom Cl] Re: I'm About to Take a Dump in the Pool. Discuss. [Tom Clark ] Re: I'm About to Take a Dump in the Pool. Discuss. [2fs ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:11:58 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: I'm About to Take a Dump in the Pool. Discuss. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Rex wrote: > > > Actually, I basically find everyone to harbor some shade of mental > illness, > > and am far more wont to trust those who acknowledge it. For real. > > Right on. Thanks. And again, for real. > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/aug/13/usa.redbox > 'A study funded by the US government has concluded that conservatism can > be explained psychologically as a set of neuroses rooted in "fear and > aggression, dogmatism and the intolerance of ambiguity".' > > It comes from both sides. Let's leave it alone. Agreed. This one's a lot more poorly written than the one Ferris cited, too. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:18:59 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: the conservative slurry On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, FSThomas wrote: > Jill Brand wrote: > > If the blue states said goodbye to > > the nation, it would be interesting to see what would become of the > > fiscally conservative red states, which most often drain fiscal > > resources from those more liberally minded states. > > I would welcome the secession of California just to see how long they > would last without the Federal Treasury. They're throttling themselves > under the weight of their taxation which is caused by the weight of > their entitlement programs. Let's dispense with the whole red/blue state thing--it's a false dichotomy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:2004_US_elections_purple_counties.png ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:03:55 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: the conservative slurry Ferris wrote: >I'm not happy with the past eight years, either. There's been a Hell of a lot of things done that I'm not thrilled with >to be certain. I firmly believe, though, that the last thing we want to do to right wrongs, ease woes (real or >perceived), or "fix" the country involve a move toward socialism. If you think the budget is out of hand now >wait until social programs start getting expanded as promised by both the candidates the Democrats offer. Broom the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy and cut the bloated military budget for starters. We don't need bases in Germany or Cuba for instance. Any future wars or current wars must be paid for by bonds or raising taxes, not by borrowing from China and Japan. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:23:20 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: I'm About to Take a Dump in the Pool. Discuss. > Language ain't logical. > Particularly English. Frankly I find this citizen to be such an obvioud political shill that I'm wondering if there isn't some way of subjecting his input to a Turing test... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:59:02 -0500 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: I'm About to Take a Dump in the Pool. Discuss. kevin studyvin wrote: > Frankly I find this citizen to be such an obvioud political shill that I'm > wondering if there isn't some way of subjecting his input to a Turing > test... Call me Eliza. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:23:52 -0800 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: Re: I'm About to Take a Dump in the Pool. Discuss. craigslist, dude. get your tickets from craigslist. just gotta check often, and be patient. the bargains will turn up. mea culpa. but i do think my point (though at was poorly worded) stands: i'm really the only one that could be accused of re-subjecting a debate in which he's been taking part to such degree that ferris wouldn't be able to recognise it as a continuation of the thread. and he runs and hides from *everyone*, only to return a few weeks later emitting the same nonsense. i should also respond to this... <> ...by saying that i've met ferris on a few occasions, and found him to be a square g. a good guy, and fun to hang out with. also a helluva great taper. so, i hope nobody, ferris included, takes any of this stuff as a personal attack. but...if you don't wanna be called a hypocrite, you shouldn't act like one. and if logic and facts call forth cognitive dissonance, maybe it's best to just leave it alone. i agree that you've really just descended to trolling, ferris. me too! (although i don't know what the right reasons are, so for all i know, i enjoyed him for the wrong reasons. but enjoy him i did.) will's baseball book was thirteen different kinds of awesome. apart from that, he seems to me to be almost as stupid as condi rice is. from whence he derived his reputation, i cannot possibly fathom. er, should've read has *not* been repealed... i honestly think it will secede before it's all said and done. the thought struck me again to-day, upon reading about ahnold's bitching out gee-dub for taking all of california's national guard equipment and not bringing it back. by the way, did y'all see the "move america forward" commercial calling out berkeley for dissing the troops? as i understand it, the aim is to make sure that no american city ever disrespects the troops ever again. go get 'em, bulldogs! dissuade him from what? well, speak up, man! no time like the fucking present! (and all that.) come on, dude. you know good and fucking well that i detest the democrats even more than i do the republicans. which is saying a lot. the point is that *ferris* thinks there's a difference between the two; and, specifically, in this case, thinks (or, at least, has parroted what limbaugh thinks to the effect) that the mortgage meltdown is the result of "liberal" legislation. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:37:02 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: RE: the conservative slurry On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Bachman, Michael wrote: > Ferris wrote: > > >I'm not happy with the past eight years, either. There's been a Hell of > a lot of things done that I'm not thrilled with >to be certain. I firmly > believe, though, that the last thing we want to do to right wrongs, ease > woes (real or > >perceived), or "fix" the country involve a move toward socialism. If > you think the budget is out of hand now > >wait until social programs start getting expanded as promised by both > the candidates the Democrats offer. > > Broom the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy and cut the bloated military > budget for starters. We don't need bases in Germany or Cuba for > instance. Any future wars or current wars must be paid for by bonds or > raising taxes, not by borrowing from China and Japan. What makes you think they won't be buying the bonds? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:30:29 -0800 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: Shadowcat don't know whether that's even a vocoder on "Because You're Over", but this sure evokes "O Superman", eh? i like it! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:39:43 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: I'm About to Take a Dump in the Pool. Discuss. On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Stacked Crooked wrote: > > > well, speak up, man! no time like the fucking present! (and all that.) I have been! > > > come on, dude. you know good and fucking well that i detest the democrats > even more than i do the republicans. which is saying a lot. the point is > that *ferris* thinks there's a difference between the two; and, > specifically, in this case, thinks (or, at least, has parroted what > limbaugh thinks to the effect) that the mortgage meltdown is the result of > "liberal" legislation. Nader for Prez, eh? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:49:20 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Shadowcat On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Stacked Crooked wrote: > don't know whether that's even a vocoder on "Because You're Over", but > this > sure evokes "O Superman", eh? i like it! It's Autotune, innit? Autotune on overdrive sounds more than a little bit vocoder-y. On the pop records that I hear these days, I often honestly don't know if Autotune is being used as a vocoder-y "effect", or if it's come to sound so normal and expected to "the kids" that they don't even notice how bizarre it is. Goddammit, I'm putting SHADOWCAT in my car and listening to it while I drive to and from work tomorrow. I'm way late on this. My laptop is now about 23 hours into importing my music backup from November, with approx. six more hours to go, but I don't want to do anything that might upset it at this late point in the process, like playing an album on it. Nobody's perfect, I gotta work it... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:50:41 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: I'm About to Take a Dump in the Pool. Discuss. On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Stacked Crooked wrote: > > > > > > > well, speak up, man! no time like the fucking present! (and all that.) > > I have been! Effectively, too! > > Nader for Prez, eh? Fuck that noise SIDEWAYS! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:53:41 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: Shadowcat On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Stacked Crooked wrote: > don't know whether that's even a vocoder on "Because You're Over", but this > sure evokes "O Superman", eh? i like it! Or Imogen Heap's "Hide and Seek"...more like the latter, since they're both a cappella.. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:55:37 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: I'm About to Take a Dump in the Pool. Discuss. On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Rex wrote: > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > > > On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, Stacked Crooked wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > well, speak up, man! no time like the fucking present! (and all that.) > > > > I have been! > > > Effectively, too! > > > > > Nader for Prez, eh? > > Fuck that noise SIDEWAYS! The funny thing is, I'm actually glad he's doing it again. Not that I'd vote for him. But seriously--it never should have been so close. Time for instant runoff voting... :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:03:25 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: Best/Worst Name Evar of 2008 so far > > Dude... Beaglehole. > > > > Can't make this shit up. > >I believe it's Be-AH-glah-holly. definitely pronounced "Beagle-hole" in these parts - there was a prominent NZ historian of that name (even worse, for those of you with rude minds, his full name was John Cawte Beaglehole) His son, Tim Beaglehole, is also a prominent writer and academic. - --- Re: a lack of Garfield > http://garfieldminusgarfield.tumblr.com/ Tears are literally rolloing down my cheeks. That is wonderful - but it must have taken a cracked brain to think of it! James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:44:43 -0800 From: "Jason Brown" Subject: Re: The existentialistly schizophrenic desert of Jon Arbuckle in Garfield without Garfield On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > http://garfieldminusgarfield.tumblr.com/ I think this site came first: http://tailsteak.com/arbuckle/index.php?date=810811 Rather than eliminating Garfleid entirely they are redrawing the Garfield strips more naturalisticly and eliminating Garfield's thought balloons. There are a number of different artists so the quality of execution varies. As I'm also a single man with a cat named after a dead republican president, I'd like to think that Jon talking to an actual cat is less distressing than him talking to an imaginary cat, but I'm not so sure. Still nothing beats Shitbrain: http://shitbrain.wordpress.com/ - -- "Never go with a hippie to a second location." - Jack Donaghy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:57:15 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Ubu-Tangent (or, "Meanwhile, in the poop-free pool") On 2/27/08, Rex wrote: > > Thanks to the feggy ID on Pere Ubu's "Oh Catherine", I found this, which > looks to have some nifty b-sides, if they're covers (possibly even if > they're not)... > > http://earfulofnoize.blogspot.com/search?q=pere+ubu I'd have to check - but all of these tracks showed up on the corresponding CDs of the reissued "Director's Cut" versions on Cooking Vinyl. I had a hard time finding them anywhere except ordering direct through ubuprojex.net, though. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 02:06:49 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Re: the conservative slurry Sayeth Ferris: >The most racist, repressive group you could find here in the South is the Democrats. How can I say that? Georgia's a Republican state, after all, right? I can say it in that I've seen and heard white-on-black racism and a HELL of a lot of black-on-white racism and the majority of blacks vote with the Democrats down here. < ...Was gonna refute this right-is-wrong, war-is-peace construction, both by fact and with a disturbingly illustrative anecdote, but...you know what? I'm GLAD for this statement -- I celebrate its axiomatic existence -- since it now so very clearly demonstrates where this POS is coming from, deep down in his (uh, not "soul," that's for sure...)...whatever...that I now know to ignore him and whatever he says in the same way I regard other racists (of whatever race; whether they use ignorant hate speech or pretend-erudite arguments to support their reprehensible opinions) -- with a clear conscience tinged with disgust. "Debating" these mouth-breathers just lends them a stage... Oh, I'm sure the "how dare you" and "some of my best friends are" attempted-rebuttals are coming, but...let them blow like empty wind, because the last refuge of scoundrels is apparently not limited to patriotism... Michael Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 02:37:09 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Re: my previous post... ...Even though I truly felt what I said in my previous post, somehow saying it has taken a lot out of me -- made me almost as depressed as reading the words that spurred me to respond did. And all of this seems to have somehow threatened to turn something I enjoy and look forward to into something I suddenly feel like ignoring... While I think Rex nailed it in calling the original post "trolling," pure and simple -- and, although I don't care WHAT response (if, indeed ANY) my rebuttal would get -- I now (just minutes later) feel somehow equally disgusted at all of it...Yes, we can debate things out here, but...sigh -- I don't know. I know I'm not wrong -- and I don't feel any need to apologize -- but I suppose I should have just shook my head disgustedly and scrolled down the page rather than respond... Meanness gets us nowhere, man, and keeps things from ever being truly understood. Life is too short (and so am I). It's 21 degrees out and 8:30 at night, but I think I need a walk...(a drink, too, I suppose; alas...cannot do that anymore). Nobody needs to "yea" or "nay" this (I suppose that's the main point of what I'm saying) -- I just wanted anyone who read what I wrote before to see this as well... ...Time to lace up and grab my coat... MLS _________________________________________________________________ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail.-get your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:30:02 -0600 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: reap Buddy Miles . - - Steve _______________ Interaction with cosmic intelligence may be influenced by Penrose noncomputable Platonic wisdom embedded in Planck scale geometry. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:41:36 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: "Mr. Private Property." The Great Quail wrote: > I am actually saddened by the death of William F. Buckley, Jr. He > was one of my favorite conservatives, and always fun to watch -- > for the right reasons. In fact, back in 1998, I wrote him seeking > help with regards to a literary project, and he responded quite > graciously. > > Ah well...at least George Will and Christopher Hitchens are still > around and kicking. Although that's a little like saying "at least Paul Blair and Garry Maddox are still with us," after Willie Mays dies. "I'm not tempted to write a song about George W. Bush. I couldn't figure out what sort of song I would write. That's the problem: I don't want to satirize George Bush and his puppeteers, I want to vaporize them." -- Tom Lehrer "The eyes are the groin of the head." -- Dwight Schrute . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:51:12 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: The existentialistly schizophrenic desert of Jon Arbuckle in Garfield without Garfield On Feb 27, 2008, at 5:44 PM, Jason Brown wrote: > As I'm also a single man with a cat named after a dead republican > president... Milhouse? > > Still nothing beats Shitbrain: http://shitbrain.wordpress.com/ Holy shit. RSS>Subscribe. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:56:49 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: I'm About to Take a Dump in the Pool. Discuss. On Feb 27, 2008, at 12:53 PM, Stacked Crooked wrote: > also, i do want to state that i'm of the opinion that the bankers, the > brokers, the legislators (for *caving in to* the bankers' demands, > not for > "compelling" them to make the demands), and the buyers all hold > culpability > here. yeah, the buyers were no doubt duped high and wide. but, > shit, if > you're gonna sign your life away like that, shouldn't you at least > take a > moment to ponder whether money really does grow on trees? http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/2008/02/how-subprime-re.html - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:09:11 -0500 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: The existentialistly schizophrenic desert of Jon Arbuckle in Garfield without Garfield Jason Brown wrote: > Still nothing beats Shitbrain: http://shitbrain.wordpress.com/ And a local Amen to that. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:36:54 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: The existentialistly schizophrenic desert of Jon Arbuckle in Garfield without Garfield On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Jason Brown wrote: > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > http://garfieldminusgarfield.tumblr.com/ > > I think this site came first: > http://tailsteak.com/arbuckle/index.php?date=810811 > > Rather than eliminating Garfleid entirely they are redrawing the > Garfield strips more naturalisticly and eliminating Garfield's thought > balloons. There are a number of different artists so the quality of > execution varies. That's what I saw, maybe a year ago. Probably around the same time as "Marmaduke Explained" hit my radar. http://marmadukeexplained.blogspot.com/2006/09/marmadukes-habit-of-skulking-about-in.html And of course there's the classic (but defunct) "Dysfunctional Family Circus"... it seems like every shitty comic strip is actually an awesome comic strip just waiting to happen. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 20:42:48 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: my previous post... Again offlist, I wouldn't feel too bad about it. I can understand why you felt bad, or perhaps played like a fiddle, but that's nature of trollery: someone who feels shitty about themselves looking for miserable company. Even if they succeed momentarily, you can convert that right back into failure by not giving too much of a shit for too long. It was ever so trolly of him. Trollier than thou, even. I did think your response was admirably right to the point and... well, brief, and thus readable. Hope you can successfully just walk it off. - -Rex On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Michael Sweeney wrote: > ...Even though I truly felt what I said in my previous post, somehow > saying it > has taken a lot out of me -- made me almost as depressed as reading the > words > that spurred me to respond did. And all of this seems to have somehow > threatened to turn something I enjoy and look forward to into something I > suddenly feel like ignoring... > > While I think Rex nailed it in calling the original post "trolling," pure > and > simple -- and, although I don't care WHAT response (if, indeed ANY) my > rebuttal would get -- I now (just minutes later) feel somehow equally > disgusted at all of it...Yes, we can debate things out here, but...sigh -- > I > don't know. I know I'm not wrong -- and I don't feel any need to > apologize -- > but I suppose I should have just shook my head disgustedly and scrolled > down > the page rather than respond... > > Meanness gets us nowhere, man, and keeps things from ever being truly > understood. Life is too short (and so am I). It's 21 degrees out and > 8:30 at > night, but I think I need a walk...(a drink, too, I suppose; alas...cannot > do > that anymore). > > Nobody needs to "yea" or "nay" this (I suppose that's the main point of > what > I'm saying) -- I just wanted anyone who read what I wrote before to see > this > as well... > > ...Time to lace up and grab my coat... > > > MLS > _________________________________________________________________ > Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail.-get > your > "fix". > http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:26:05 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: I'm About to Take a Dump in the Pool. Discuss. On 2/27/08, FSThomas wrote: > > 2fs wrote: > > > On 2/27/08, FSThomas wrote: > >> > >>> Dr. Rossiter says the liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of > >>>> inferiority in the population by: > >>>> > >>>> * creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization; > >>> > >>> You mean, like how white men can't catch a break these days? > >> > >> No, I mean like how the Democrat party > > > > > > > The adjectival form of "Democrat" (as in the party) is "Democratic." > Always > > has been, always will be - at least until "nucular" is equally correct. > > Christ - you take even your pronunciation and spelling cues from W. now? > > > If Republicans are members of the Republican Party it should logically > follow that Democrats are members of ... wait for it ... The Democrat > Party. That's linguistically nonsensical, and out of line with all historical usage. I don't know why, but in the last five or so years, the right (and only the right) has been using "Democrat" as the adjective modifying the name of the party - even though its name is and has been "The Democratic Party." "Logic" has nothing to do with it, because the two names "Republican" and "Democrat" are not identical in their linguistic function. "Republican" is already an adjective, coming from the word "republic"; it's used as a noun much in the manner that we might say someone is an "American" ("American" is in form adjectival). You don't need to add an adjectival ending to an adjective for it to function adjectivally. "Democrat," on the other hand, is a noun pure and simple, with a regular adjectival form "democratic." The two words for the names of members of the party, that is, are not formed in the same way. You turn the noun into an adjective by adding the regular adjectival suffix -an (see: America -> American), whereas the nominalized adjective needs no change to function as an adjective. Or maybe we should start referring to the Republicanan Party. > > > > You make the idiotic assumption that "liberal" equals and has always > > equalled "the Democratic party." Of course it hasn't. No liberal these > days > > is going to defend Bull Connor* - so why the fuck adduce him as evidence > > against liberalism? > > > Connor is relevant in *where* the bulk of Liberals and minorities have > chosen to set up shop. In the same party that fought against equal > rights, voting rights, elected KKK members to their head and sported > such characters as Connor. Oh puh-lease: parties change and evolve over time. The history of why the Democrats became, gradually and slowly, the more "liberal" of the two parties, even while arguably Republicans could have claimed that mantle early on, is more than I want to go into here - I'm pretty sure Miles, if he had the time, could explain, since he's trained as an historian. Transferring this to another domain entirely: so because Wilco started off as an "alt-country" band, that means _Yankee Hotel Foxtrot_ must be ipso facto "country music"? I don't fucking think so. The band was no longer a country band at that time, there being almost no discernible traces of the country influence that was quite obvious on their first few recordings. Similarly, the Republicanan Party displays nowadays very few traits of the party of Lincoln. It's been nearly 150 years; things change. Back to your actual comment: "*where* the bulk of Liberals and minorities have chosen to set up shop. In the same party that fought against equal rights, voting rights, elected KKK members to their head and sported such characters as Connor." Oh those stupid minorities: aligning themselves with people who were their enemies. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 00:33:47 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: my previous post... re: the pool poop thread: i'm kind of perplexed about this thread. i mean, ferris basically announced that he was posting something that would irritate people, and then people proceeded to get really irritated by what he posted. which is fine if one makes a sport out of these things, but not if one takes it seriously. xo p.s. actually, the thing that really surprises me is that mr. hitchcock has a conservative fan. which is like more exotic than even a unicorn; at least unicorns have been rumoured to exist. - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #521 ********************************