From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #518 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, February 26 2008 Volume 16 : Number 518 Today's Subjects: ----------------- "new" VU song [2fs ] Re: "new" VU song [2fs ] Re: "new" VU song [craigie* ] REAP: Larry Norman, The Most Amazing Artist You've Never Heard Of [HwyCDR] Re: REAP: Larry Norman, The Most Amazing Artist You've Never Heard Of [Re] Best/Worst Name Evar of 2008 so far [Rex ] Re: Best/Worst Name Evar of 2008 so far [Tom Clark ] Funny-assed blog-quote of the moment ["Stacked Crooked" ] The existentialistly schizophrenic desert of Jon Arbuckle in Garfield without Garfield [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Prosty the Spokesgland [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: I'm About to Take a Dump in the Pool. Discuss. [Tom Clark ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:43:53 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: "new" VU song A bootleg of a previously unheard Velvet Underground song has turned up. The rest of the gig includes the first live performance of "Sister Ray"... < http://download89.mediafire.com/43vwj5vzapjg/9zcetzynbvo/Velvet+Undergorund+-+Gymnasium.zip>. (Note: "Undergorund" is not a typo - that's the correct URL) There's probably a torrent of .flacs somewhere... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 22:44:48 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: "new" VU song On 2/25/08, 2fs wrote: > > A bootleg of a previously unheard Velvet Underground song has turned up. > The rest of the gig includes the first live performance of "Sister Ray"... < > http://download89.mediafire.com/43vwj5vzapjg/9zcetzynbvo/Velvet+Undergorund+-+Gymnasium.zip>. > (Note: "Undergorund" is not a typo - that's the correct URL) Oh - if you just wanna hear "I'm Not a Young Man Anymore" (the "new" song), Pitchfork has it up as an mp3 (www.pitchforkmedia.com)... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:21:41 +0000 From: craigie* Subject: Re: "new" VU song there is, and they're over at: http://rapidshare.com/files/94064177/ve ... .part1.rar http://rapidshare.com/files/94070094/ve ... .part2.rar http://rapidshare.com/files/94071831/ve ... .part3.rar w00t! c* On 26/02/2008, 2fs wrote: > > On 2/25/08, 2fs wrote: > > > > A bootleg of a previously unheard Velvet Underground song has turned up. > > The rest of the gig includes the first live performance of "Sister > Ray"... < > > > http://download89.mediafire.com/43vwj5vzapjg/9zcetzynbvo/Velvet+Undergorund+-+Gymnasium.zip > >. > > (Note: "Undergorund" is not a typo - that's the correct URL) > > > Oh - if you just wanna hear "I'm Not a Young Man Anymore" (the "new" > song), > Pitchfork has it up as an mp3 (www.pitchforkmedia.com)... > > > -- > > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.blogspot.com > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... I like my girls to be the same as my records - independent, attractively packaged and in black vinyl (if at all possible)... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:50:46 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: REAP: Larry Norman, The Most Amazing Artist You've Never Heard Of _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Norman_ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Norman) _http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-joseph/rip-larry-norman-the-mo_b_88451.htm l_ (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-joseph/rip-larry-norman-the-mo_b_88451.html) **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:28:15 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: REAP: Larry Norman, The Most Amazing Artist You've Never Heard Of Wow. The bassist in my band is a huge fan and has introduced us to some of Norman's stuff. Innaresting character. - -Rex On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 7:50 AM, wrote: > _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Norman_ > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Norman) > > _http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-joseph/rip-larry-norman-the-mo_b_88451.htm > l_ > ( > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-joseph/rip-larry-norman-the-mo_b_88451.html > ) > > > > > **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. > ( > http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ > 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:38:05 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Best/Worst Name Evar of 2008 so far This from an e-mail from my stepdaughter's school. I could not help but be reminded of Blatzman, Buster, and last year's Canine Coprophagia Follies: > Don't miss..... > Ruth Beaglehole speaking on > "Deepening Our Connections with Our Children" > Managing our anger, setting limits with our children. > Tomorrow night, Tuesday 2/26 6:00 pm > in the **** Auditorium > Dude... Beaglehole. Can't make this shit up. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 10:31:19 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Best/Worst Name Evar of 2008 so far On Feb 26, 2008, at 8:38 AM, Rex wrote: > This from an e-mail from my stepdaughter's school. I could not help > but be > reminded of Blatzman, Buster, and last year's Canine Coprophagia > Follies: > > >> Don't miss..... >> Ruth Beaglehole speaking on >> "Deepening Our Connections with Our Children" >> Managing our anger, setting limits with our children. >> Tomorrow night, Tuesday 2/26 6:00 pm >> in the **** Auditorium >> > > Dude... Beaglehole. > > Can't make this shit up. I believe it's Be-AH-glah-holly. huh huh, you said 'hole', - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:38:20 -0800 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: Funny-assed blog-quote of the moment >>Please make sure you get some of this fine calliope music playing before you read on.<< from . by the way, this new earth album (*The Bees Made Honey In The Lion's Skull*) is quite good. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:38:34 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: The existentialistly schizophrenic desert of Jon Arbuckle in Garfield without Garfield http://garfieldminusgarfield.tumblr.com/ http://data.tumblr.com/fSymsOGXO5nwx9cit1ByVOU0_500.jpg http://data.tumblr.com/fSymsOGXO5tv6npt2fZ1rWwV_r1_500.jpg "I'm not tempted to write a song about George W. Bush. I couldn't figure out what sort of song I would write. That's the problem: I don't want to satirize George Bush and his puppeteers, I want to vaporize them." -- Tom Lehrer "The eyes are the groin of the head." -- Dwight Schrute . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:02:03 -0800 From: "Benjamin Lukoff" Subject: Re: The existentialistly schizophrenic desert of Jon Arbuckle in Garfield without Garfield SUCH a better strip this way. On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > http://garfieldminusgarfield.tumblr.com/ > > http://data.tumblr.com/fSymsOGXO5nwx9cit1ByVOU0_500.jpg > http://data.tumblr.com/fSymsOGXO5tv6npt2fZ1rWwV_r1_500.jpg > > > "I'm not tempted to write a song about George W. Bush. I couldn't figure > out what sort of song I would write. That's the problem: I don't want to > satirize George Bush and his puppeteers, I want to vaporize them." -- Tom > Lehrer > > "The eyes are the groin of the head." -- Dwight Schrute > . > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:12:39 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: The existentialistly schizophrenic desert of Jon Arbuckle in Garfield without Garfield On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 3:02 PM, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > SUCH a better strip this way. The last time I checked in, it was just Garfield's thought balloons being removed, and that was a marked improvement. Interesting that the phenomenon has evolved... not quite sure which I prefer. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:11:00 -0500 From: FSThomas Subject: I'm About to Take a Dump in the Pool. Discuss. From World Net Daily and submitted right before I go on vacation to stir the pot a bit. Reading it the guy makes perfect sense. To me. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56494 *Top psychiatrist concludes liberals clinically nuts* Eminent psychiatrist makes case ideology is mental disorder WASHINGTON b Just when liberals thought it was safe to start identifying themselves as such, an acclaimed, veteran psychiatrist is making the case that the ideology motivating them is actually a mental disorder. "Based on strikingly irrational beliefs and emotions, modern liberals relentlessly undermine the most important principles on which our freedoms were founded," says Dr. Lyle Rossiter, author of the new book, "The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness." "Like spoiled, angry children, they rebel against the normal responsibilities of adulthood and demand that a parental government meet their needs from cradle to grave." While political activists on the other side of the spectrum have made similar observations, Rossiter boasts professional credentials and a life virtually free of activism and links to "the vast right-wing conspiracy." For more than 35 years he has diagnosed and treated more than 1,500 patients as a board-certified clinical psychiatrist and examined more than 2,700 civil and criminal cases as a board-certified forensic psychiatrist. He received his medical and psychiatric training at the University of Chicago. Rossiter says the kind of liberalism being displayed by the two major candidates for the Democratic Party presidential nomination can only be understood as a psychological disorder. "A social scientist who understands human nature will not dismiss the vital roles of free choice, voluntary cooperation and moral integrity b as liberals do," he says. "A political leader who understands human nature will not ignore individual differences in talent, drive, personal appeal and work ethic, and then try to impose economic and social equality on the population b as liberals do. And a legislator who understands human nature will not create an environment of rules which over-regulates and over-taxes the nation's citizens, corrupts their character and reduces them to wards of the state b as liberals do." Dr. Rossiter says the liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of inferiority in the population by: * creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization; * satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and compensation; * augmenting primitive feelings of envy; * rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to the will of the government. "The roots of liberalism b and its associated madness b can be clearly identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs of the liberal mind," he says. "When the modern liberal mind whines about imaginary victims, rages against imaginary villains and seeks above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:22:44 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Prosty the Spokesgland For some reason I figured Fegmaniax folks would understand why I think "Prosty the Spokesgland" and "manograms" are funny.... - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Sender: American Dialect Society Poster: Laurence Horn Subject: can we have a SOTY category, pretty please? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If that looks like a blend of "WOTY" and "SOTA", it's intentional. What I have in mind is "Spokesbeing of the Year", including designated commercial mascots. There's a story in the Times Health pages today about the attempt to come up with a campaign to fight prostate cancer that featured, yes, Prosty the Spokesgland. I see that someone on the web has beaten me to the punch, so I'll just link to their treatment-- http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=40&threadid=57829 - --which in turn links to the lyrics* of the theme song (to the tune of, well, duh) and accompanying public service video, although apparently not to a music video of the actual prostate exam. As far as WOTY candidates go, there's not only "spokesgland" but--wait for it--"manogram", which has been trademarked. I assume that Prosty him- or itself will be up for an American Name Society award in at least one category. LH P.S. I love the way the Times writer (with tongue in cheek, as it were) describes the prostate screening campaign, with Prosty the Spokesgland and company, noting that "not surprisingly, it has not caught on". Seemed like a good idea at the time... *I can't resist... Prosty the Spokesgland Is a prostate gland, we're told Buried deep inside largely out of sight He's ignored by young and old Prosty the Spokesgland How we hope that lump's benign But it's hard to say Cause the only way To diagnose and treat is blind There might just be some cancer In that lump they found today But we really can't be sure right now Cause you can't trust the PSA - ------------------------------------------------------------ The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:07:27 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: Prosty the Spokesgland Sweet, there's a video. http://www.manogram.org/prosty.html On Tue, 26 Feb 2008, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > For some reason I figured Fegmaniax folks would understand why I think > "Prosty the Spokesgland" and "manograms" are funny.... > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Sender: American Dialect Society > Poster: Laurence Horn > Subject: can we have a SOTY category, pretty please? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > If that looks like a blend of "WOTY" and "SOTA", it's intentional. > What I have in mind is "Spokesbeing of the Year", including > designated commercial mascots. > > There's a story in the Times Health pages today about the attempt to > come up with a campaign to fight prostate cancer that featured, yes, > Prosty the Spokesgland. I see that someone on the web has beaten me > to the punch, so I'll just link to their treatment-- > http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=40&threadid=57829 > --which in turn links to the lyrics* of the theme song (to the tune > of, well, duh) and accompanying public service video, although > apparently not to a music video of the actual prostate exam. > > As far as WOTY candidates go, there's not only "spokesgland" > but--wait for it--"manogram", which has been trademarked. I assume > that Prosty him- or itself will be up for an American Name Society > award in at least one category. > > LH > > P.S. I love the way the Times writer (with tongue in cheek, as it > were) describes the prostate screening campaign, with Prosty the > Spokesgland and company, noting that "not surprisingly, it has not > caught on". Seemed like a good idea at the time... > > > *I can't resist... > > Prosty the Spokesgland > Is a prostate gland, we're told > Buried deep inside largely out of sight > He's ignored by young and old > > Prosty the Spokesgland > How we hope that lump's benign > But it's hard to say > Cause the only way > To diagnose and treat is blind > > There might just be some cancer > In that lump they found today > But we really can't be sure right now > Cause you can't trust the PSA > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The American Dialect Society - http://www.americandialect.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:34:01 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: I'm About to Take a Dump in the Pool. Discuss. On Feb 26, 2008, at 5:11 PM, FSThomas wrote: > From World Net Daily... That right there should tell you all you need to know. > *Top psychiatrist concludes liberals clinically nuts* I guess when you go through life with open eyes, exploring and questioning and trying to move collective intellect forward, you start seeking answers within your own psyche. Oh well, it's the price we pay. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:56:43 -0500 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: I'm About to Take a Dump in the Pool. Discuss. Tom Clark wrote: > On Feb 26, 2008, at 5:11 PM, FSThomas wrote: > >> From World Net Daily... > > That right there should tell you all you need to know. Don't break Godwin's law too quickly. Wait a day or two. >> *Top psychiatrist concludes liberals clinically nuts* > > I guess when you go through life with open eyes, exploring and > questioning and trying to move collective intellect forward, you start > seeking answers within your own psyche. Oh well, it's the price we pay. Going through life just skimming titles and avoid details is a heavy price to pay, too. And "collective intellect" sounds a bit like a hive mentality which is something I want nothing to do with, frankly. - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:03:38 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: I'm About to Take a Dump in the Pool. Discuss. On 2/26/08, FSThomas wrote: > > From World Net Daily and submitted right before I go on vacation to > stir the pot a bit. > > Reading it the guy makes perfect sense. To me. > > http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56494 > > *Top psychiatrist concludes liberals clinically nuts* > > Eminent psychiatrist makes case ideology is mental disorder > > > > "A social scientist who understands human nature will not dismiss the > vital roles of free choice, voluntary cooperation and moral integrity b > as liberals do," he says. "A political leader who understands human > nature will not ignore individual differences in talent, drive, personal > appeal and work ethic, and then try to impose economic and social > equality on the population b as liberals do. Really - that's what "liberals" do? Ignoring individual differences sounds more like the refusal to acknowledge difference, and assume everyone's equal beforehand, and that determination and moral strength overcome all social obstacles... And a legislator who > understands human nature will not create an environment of rules which > over-regulates and over-taxes the nation's citizens, corrupts their > character and reduces them to wards of the state b as liberals do." Of course, one person's "overregulation" and "overtaxation" is not another's: that's hardly scientific reasoning on display there. As for "corrupts their character": hmm, seems to me that if you actually look at the belief systems of Christianity and Judaism (and probably others, but I'm looking at the two most common and influential beliefs systems), they would argue that ceaselessly looking out for one's own self, maximizing one's own gain, regarding others as "resources" (as in "human resources"), and generally promoting selfishness as the highest good are a pretty likely means to corrupt character. As to "reduces to wards of the state" - again, what exactly does Rossiter mean by that term? It certainly isn't a scientific category; I highly doubt that citizens during the long era of liberal dominance from the New Deal or earlier up through the 1970s felt like "wards of the state." They acted as citizens (or rather, could act in that capacity, among others), and were otherwise relatively free to live their lives as they saw fit - within the bounds (fair and unfair) otherwise set by social norms, of course - but those surely were not entirely the creation of any "state." Dr. Rossiter says the liberal agenda preys on weakness and feelings of > inferiority in the population by: > > * creating and reinforcing perceptions of victimization; You mean, like how white men can't catch a break these days? * satisfying infantile claims to entitlement, indulgence and > compensation; Like wealthy folks who say they'll take their bat and ball and go home if they're not granted every last tax break? * augmenting primitive feelings of envy; ...thy name is greed - and Greed Is Good, remember? * rejecting the sovereignty of the individual, subordinating him to > the will of the government. Ironically, it's Rossiter who here utterly rejects the sovereignty of liberals, making symptoms of their choices and preferences and refusing to believe that a genuinely autonomous person could choose differently from Rossiter's own preferences. So, not the will of the government per se - but if Rossiter's views gained purchase in the medical establishment, something much worse. "The roots of liberalism b and its associated madness b can be clearly > identified by understanding how children develop from infancy to > adulthood and how distorted development produces the irrational beliefs > of the liberal mind," he says. "When the modern liberal mind whines > about imaginary victims, Again re victimized white guys, Christians forbidden from private school prayer, etc. etc. rages against imaginary villains like the jackbooted thugs of the Federal government, just itching to do their worst just as soon as guns are taken away, you mean? and seeks > above all else to run the lives of persons competent to run their own > lives, the neurosis of the liberal mind becomes painfully obvious." Christ this guy's pretty dim if he can't see that his proposals - to stigmatize the "liberal mindset" as a mental illness - would certainly end up "run[ning] the lives of persons competent to run their own lives"...oh wait - *he* gets to decide who's "competent to run their own lives": if someone disagrees with him, that person is obviously insane. Where's your individual freedom now, Dr. Ted-Kennedy-in-a-straitjacket? Once again, I quote the immortal Bugs Bunny: "what a maroon!" (PS: as long as Rossiter's wielding the big fishnet, perhaps *he* can clean up that unpleasant set up brown chunks in the pool...) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:13:49 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: I'm About to Take a Dump in the Pool. Discuss. On 2/26/08, FSThomas wrote: > > > That right there should tell you all you need to know. > > > Don't break Godwin's law too quickly. Wait a day or two. I always thought the "law" was that given any contentious online discussion, eventually and at the point of no return for that discussion, someone will mention Hitler or the Nazis. So actually, "breaking" the law would be to *not* mention Adlof Hilter... > And "collective intellect" sounds a bit like a hive mentality which is > something I want nothing to do with, frankly. You and Robinson Crusoe, building your whole world all by yrself. And Friday...but let that pass. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:50:18 -0600 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: Prosty the Spokesgland On Feb 26, 2008, at 9:07 PM, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > Sweet, there's a video. > http://www.manogram.org/prosty.html Looks like Kricfalusi. - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #518 ********************************