From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #517 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, February 25 2008 Volume 16 : Number 517 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: New Feature: Name That Tune Released in or Prior to 1991 [Sebastian H] Reap [Jeff Dwarf ] RE: New Feature: Name That Tune Released in or Prior to 1991 ["Brian Hudd] Re: Reap ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: New Feature: Name That Tune Released in or Prior to 1991 ["kevin stud] Re: New Feature: Name That Tune Released in or Prior to 1991 ["kevin stud] Re: Reap [Tom Clark ] Re: Reap [2fs ] Re: Reap [Tom Clark ] Re: Reap [2fs ] Re: Reap [Capuchin ] Re: Reap [2fs ] Re: Apropos of nothing much in partikular [craigie* ] Re: Reap [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: New Feature: Name That Tune Released in or Prior to 1991 [Rex Subject: Re: New Feature: Name That Tune Released in or Prior to 1991 - -- grutness@slingshot.co.nz is rumored to have mumbled on 25. Februar 2008 12:50:38 +1300 regarding Re: New Feature: Name That Tune Released in or Prior to 1991: >> (8) This one's a long shot. Kind of a disco/new wave thing with a guitar >> riff reminiscent of "My Sharona" or "Whip It", and occasionally a female >> voice shrieks "(something)- INA! GALAX- INA!". Probably French. Yeah, >> I know. Nina Hagen comes to mind, but I really don't know much about >> her. > > ISTR Nina Hagen had a song called "Cosmo Shiva Galaxena" I only have her first record, so I don't know that song, but I know it's the name of her daughter (actually it's Cosma). ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:34:47 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Reap Some Kobayashi wannabe. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/7261888.stm "I'm not tempted to write a song about George W. Bush. I couldn't figure out what sort of song I would write. That's the problem: I don't want to satirize George Bush and his puppeteers, I want to vaporize them." -- Tom Lehrer "The eyes are the groin of the head." -- Dwight Schrute . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 16:55:15 -0600 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: New Feature: Name That Tune Released in or Prior to 1991 I know two: > (1) Song possibly entitled "Tingle" Vaguely Beatlesque, swinging > beat, > mid tempo, male vocalist. Sample verse lyrics "Sometimes I couldn't > care > if we ran out of air oh no / It's a breeze, she's a tease / Feeling > joy, > feeling pain, we're exactly the same." Chorus lyrics : How I want her > (wander?) like this, how I love when she feeds me her tingle" or "Such > a > radiant (star?) / She can fill up the dark (?) with her tingle." That Petrol Emotion - "Tingle" from *Chemicrazy* > (6) Reggae/dancehall song, minor key/middle eastern feel, featuring > some > demented gypsy fiddling at the end. Male vocalist with definite patois > going on. No real chorus, other lyrics: "Once upon a time, just like > in a > nursery rhyme... and if you get me nervous, I will not just laugh it > off... > But not so long ago, just like in a picture show, when the hero get a > blow... Me spirit get vexed and me get restless..." Linton Kwesi Johnson - "Story" from *Tings an' Times* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:30:23 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Reap Jeff Dwarf wrote: > Some Kobayashi wannabe. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/7261888.stm Almost as smart as the Glasgow lad who thought he'd emulate a speedbump: Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 18:57:15 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: New Feature: Name That Tune Released in or Prior to 1991 On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 3:50 PM, wrote: > >(8) This one's a long shot. Kind of a disco/new wave thing with a guitar > >riff reminiscent of "My Sharona" or "Whip It", and occasionally a female > >voice shrieks "(something)- INA! GALAX- INA!". Probably French. Yeah, > I > >know. Nina Hagen comes to mind, but I really don't know much about her. > > ISTR Nina Hagen had a song called "Cosmo Shiva Galaxena" > > >(15) Song possibly called "Cathy" or "Kathy". Folksy ballad with a > singer > >who sounds for all the world like Dave Thomas of Pere Ubu. Sample > lyrics: > >"Kathy, I was out on the river... I remember you still... in a house on > the > >hill... You ain't never gonna know / Now I'll never go home". > > "Oh Catherine", by Pere Ubu Which oddly enough was just starting as I read this - part of a comp where it's samwiched between Little Feat's "Spanish Moon" and "Grey Lagoons" by Roxy Music. There sure is a lot of odd patterning in the universe. http://www.ubuprojex.net/wic.html > > > James > -- > James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand > -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- > =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. > -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- > .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:00:31 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: New Feature: Name That Tune Released in or Prior to 1991 > >(15) Song possibly called "Cathy" or "Kathy". Folksy ballad with a > singer > >who sounds for all the world like Dave Thomas of Pere Ubu. Sample > lyrics: > >"Kathy, I was out on the river... I remember you still... in a house on > the > >hill... You ain't never gonna know / Now I'll never go home". > > "Oh Catherine", by Pere Ubu Which was just starting to play, as an example of how finely the universe is patterened, as part of a compilation (between "Spanish Moon" by Little Feat & Roxy Music's "Gey Lagoons"). http://www.ubuprojex.net/wic.html > > > James > -- > James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand > -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- > =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. > -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- > .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 19:50:34 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Reap On Feb 24, 2008, at 4:34 PM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > Some Kobayashi wannabe. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/7261888.stm Some Joey Chestnut wannabe you, mean! San Jose represent! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 22:41:53 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Reap On 2/24/08, Tom Clark wrote: > > On Feb 24, 2008, at 4:34 PM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > > Some Kobayashi wannabe. > > > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/7261888.stm > > > Some Joey Chestnut wannabe you, mean! San Jose represent! > Oh good - we're talking about professional vomiters. Those idiots all claim they don't - but, uh, yr average hot dog has about 250 calories (including the bun), so 66 of them is 16,500 calories, or more than a week's worth of food at 2,000 calories per day. So unless these guys just don't eat for an entire week afterwards, there's no way they're not going to weigh 400 pounds unless they barf it up afterwards. Some "sport" - assholes ought to maybe consider that people are starving out there. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 20:45:56 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Reap On Feb 24, 2008, at 7:50 PM, Tom Clark wrote: > Some Joey Chestnut wannabe you, mean! Wow, that's some fucked-up punctuation. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:05:22 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Reap On 2/24/08, Tom Clark wrote: > > On Feb 24, 2008, at 7:50 PM, Tom Clark wrote: > > > Some Joey Chestnut wannabe you, mean! > > > Wow, that's some fucked-up punctuation. Fuck! You Tom Clark. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 23:48:58 -0600 (CST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Reap On Sun, 24 Feb 2008, 2fs wrote: > Those idiots all claim they don't - but, uh, yr average hot dog has > about 250 calories (including the bun), so 66 of them is 16,500 > calories, or more than a week's worth of food at 2,000 calories per day. > > So unless these guys just don't eat for an entire week afterwards, > there's no way they're not going to weigh 400 pounds unless they barf it > up afterwards. I really don't think that's how the body works. You just don't have the enzymes available to breakdown that much starch and fat at one time. You're going to pass most of it without withdrawing energy or nutrients. These are chemical reactions and there must be enough of the chemicals to breakdown the food, synthesize the usable molecules, and transmit them to a place where they can be absorbed. I think these guys are just really inefficient. Sure, some probably vomit. But I think most of them just only have exactly as much processing power as they need and everything else goes right on through. I don't understand why people insist that the human body is this efficient machine for transfering chemical energy directly into fatty deposits of potential energy. The common method of calculating the caloric content of food is to burn it; applying heat and oxygen. Sure, that'll release potential energy, but is it even analogous to what happens in the human body? And does the body extract the energy so efficiently? Indeed, wouldn't it be much more efficient to ONLY process the food you need? And could that be what these people with "high metabolism" are really doing? Is someone out there burning people's shit to find out how much potential energy is NOT being stored or converted? I've been reading things lately that suggest that the popular ideas about the way our bodies handle food are essentially crap-science out of a science fiction fantasy of soylent green and food pills. The further suggestion is that our current processed foods are built on this notion that all we need are certain key nutrients suspended in a caloric base. Hence, our supermarket shelves are filled with boxes whipped food starch with a dash of zinc and ascorbic acid. Hence, Americans are seemingly paradoxically malnourished and overfed. Anyway... just a current thought of mine crossing the thread orthogonally. Go back to discussing whatever's going on in the fifteen threads I'm not reading right now. J "Your mind has been transported back in time... and to Mars." . ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:09:37 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Reap On 2/24/08, Capuchin wrote: > > On Sun, 24 Feb 2008, 2fs wrote: > > Those idiots all claim they don't - but, uh, yr average hot dog has > > about 250 calories (including the bun), so 66 of them is 16,500 > > calories, or more than a week's worth of food at 2,000 calories per day. > > > > So unless these guys just don't eat for an entire week afterwards, > > there's no way they're not going to weigh 400 pounds unless they barf it > > up afterwards. > > > I really don't think that's how the body works. > > You just don't have the enzymes available to breakdown that much starch > and fat at one time. You're going to pass most of it without > withdrawing energy or nutrients. Just exactly how do you mean "pass"? Point is, it's appalling to me that people think this sort of thing is a sport...or maybe it's just me. I mean, the idea of watching someone stuff his face is grotesque enough - then thinking of what happens to that "food" afterwards is worse. In whatever manner it "passes," I wouldn't particularly want to be around. Truthfully, I suspect that, medically, it's probably preferable to barf out 60-odd hot dogs than it is to let all that crap work its way through your body in the conventional way. I say this not as some sort of holier-than-thou food person - I like plenty of food of rather dubious nutritional value, and I'd say the same thing about somebody plowing down 100 plates full of organic broccoli. I can't speak to the rest of your speculations as to the chemistry of the way food works in the body - I'll leave that to anyone who actually knows anything about it (not implying you don't, just saying that I don't). - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:50:59 +0000 From: craigie* Subject: Re: Apropos of nothing much in partikular Bob Dylan, last year. On 23/02/2008, Stacked Crooked wrote: > > didja see that costello is opening for the po-lice this summer? when's > the > last time he toured as an opening act, i wonder? > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... I like my girls to be the same as my records - independent, attractively packaged and in black vinyl (if at all possible)... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:16:40 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Reap - -- Capuchin is rumored to have mumbled on 24. Februar 2008 23:48:58 -0600 regarding Re: Reap: > I've been reading things lately that suggest that the popular ideas about > the way our bodies handle food are essentially crap-science out of a > science fiction fantasy of soylent green and food pills. The further > suggestion is that our current processed foods are built on this notion > that all we need are certain key nutrients suspended in a caloric base. > Hence, our supermarket shelves are filled with boxes whipped food starch > with a dash of zinc and ascorbic acid. Hence, Americans are seemingly > paradoxically malnourished and overfed. I think this long article, which after one year I still haven't read, is all about that: - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 10:13:37 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: New Feature: Name That Tune Released in or Prior to 1991 On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 7:00 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > > > >(15) Song possibly called "Cathy" or "Kathy". Folksy ballad with a > > singer > > >who sounds for all the world like Dave Thomas of Pere Ubu. Sample > > lyrics: > > >"Kathy, I was out on the river... I remember you still... in a house on > > the > > >hill... You ain't never gonna know / Now I'll never go home". > > > > "Oh Catherine", by Pere Ubu > > > Which was just starting to play, as an example of how finely the universe > is patterened, as part of a compilation (between "Spanish Moon" by Little > Feat & Roxy Music's "Gey Lagoons"). > > Thanks, all... it is massively appreciated. Somehow I never considered that the song that sounded like the guy from Pere Ubu might actually *be* Pere Ubu, and apparently a relatively well-known latter-day Ubu song. In a lot of cases I missed out on music that was well-known in the states during this period (I'm still a little muddled on the whole Ace of Base thing), and in other cases, like this one, I heard it but didn't know what it was. There was this one Feelies song ("Decide") which I believed for years to be a Lou Reed track... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 20:37:00 -0800 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: OK, I'm just gonna say this one thing... I just started Angel s4. As I've said - I'm enjoying this more than Buffy for many reasons. But damn. Rain of Fire. Wow. - - c ************************************** Questions are a burden for others. Answers are a prison for oneself. ************************************** ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #517 ********************************