From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #516 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, February 24 2008 Volume 16 : Number 516 Today's Subjects: ----------------- =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Re:_Dave_Marsh_is_writing_a_book_a?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?bout_why_20=93American_Idol=94_is_evil.?= [] =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Re:_Dave_Marsh_is_writing_a_book_a?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?bout_why_20=93American_Idol=94_is_evil.?= [] =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Re:_Dave_Marsh_is_writing_a_book_a?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?bout_why_20=93American_Idol=94_is_evil.?= [] Re: Apropos of nothing much in partikular [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: New Feature: Name That Tune Released in or Prior to 1991 [grutness@sl] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 14:42:37 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Re:_Dave_Marsh_is_writing_a_book_a?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?bout_why_20=93American_Idol=94_is_evil.?= On 2/23/08, HwyCDRrev@aol.com wrote: > > bottom : > _http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/books/review/Marsh-t.html > /partner/rssnyt?_r=1&oref=slogin&pagewanted=all_ > ( > http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/books/review/Marsh-t.html/partner/rssnyt?_r=1&oref=slogin&pagewanted=all > ) *sigh* Why do I get the feeling that many of us here, collectively, could write Marsh's book for him? That is, why do I get the feeling that every one of the arguments Marsh will marshal is utterly predictable? I mean, I don't like AI either...but to say it's "evil" (which, granted, might be merely the work of whichever bottom-totem-pole-dwelling Times plebe whose job it is to write author blurbs...uh, unless the author's asked to contribute them) is a bit of an overstatement, no? Haven't most people, given the option, always preferred entertainment over art, to simplify rather dramatically? And if Marsh takes a political tack...well, then AI's hardly to blame for exploiting the market position left there for it, or something like it, to fill, right? Sorry...it's rare that I feel tedium from merely reading *about* a book. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 13:40:30 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Re:_Dave_Marsh_is_writing_a_book_a?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?bout_why_20=93American_Idol=94_is_evil.?= I've disliked Marsh since I read his review of Another Green World in 1975. His review of Dylan's Street-Legal and his hagiographies of Springsteen only confirmed my opinion (i.e., he's a schmuck). I feel compelled to approve of his pro-working-class politics but I still don't have any use for his work. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 12:42 PM, 2fs wrote: > On 2/23/08, HwyCDRrev@aol.com wrote: > > > > bottom : > > _http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/books/review/Marsh-t.html > > /partner/rssnyt?_r=1&oref=slogin&pagewanted=all_ > > ( > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/books/review/Marsh-t.html/partner/rssnyt?_r=1&oref=slogin&pagewanted=all > > ) > > > *sigh* > > Why do I get the feeling that many of us here, collectively, could write > Marsh's book for him? That is, why do I get the feeling that every one of > the arguments Marsh will marshal is utterly predictable? > > I mean, I don't like AI either...but to say it's "evil" (which, granted, > might be merely the work of whichever bottom-totem-pole-dwelling Times > plebe > whose job it is to write author blurbs...uh, unless the author's asked to > contribute them) is a bit of an overstatement, no? > > Haven't most people, given the option, always preferred entertainment over > art, to simplify rather dramatically? And if Marsh takes a political > tack...well, then AI's hardly to blame for exploiting the market position > left there for it, or something like it, to fill, right? > > Sorry...it's rare that I feel tedium from merely reading *about* a book. > > -- > > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:10:15 -0800 From: Rex Subject: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Re:_Dave_Marsh_is_writing_a_book_a?= =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?bout_why_20=93American_Idol=94_is_evil.?= On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 12:42 PM, 2fs wrote: > > Haven't most people, given the option, always preferred entertainment over > art, to simplify rather dramatically? And if Marsh takes a political > tack...well, then AI's hardly to blame for exploiting the market position > left there for it, or something like it, to fill, right? Agreed all around. I mean, the show IS called "American Idol", not "American Virtuous, Culturally Significant Artist of Unassailable Integrity". As a Neil Young fan, I'm supposed to hate Marsh anyway. But I don't want to use that as an excuse, so this will work. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 02:15:23 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: Apropos of nothing much in partikular bob dylan - last year In a message dated 2/22/2008 10:20:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, etews@inwa.net writes: didja see that costello is opening for the po-lice this summer? when's the last time he toured as an opening act, i wonder? **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:50:38 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: New Feature: Name That Tune Released in or Prior to 1991 >(8) This one's a long shot. Kind of a disco/new wave thing with a guitar >riff reminiscent of "My Sharona" or "Whip It", and occasionally a female >voice shrieks "(something)- INA! GALAX- INA!". Probably French. Yeah, I >know. Nina Hagen comes to mind, but I really don't know much about her. ISTR Nina Hagen had a song called "Cosmo Shiva Galaxena" >(15) Song possibly called "Cathy" or "Kathy". Folksy ballad with a singer >who sounds for all the world like Dave Thomas of Pere Ubu. Sample lyrics: >"Kathy, I was out on the river... I remember you still... in a house on the >hill... You ain't never gonna know / Now I'll never go home". "Oh Catherine", by Pere Ubu James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #516 ********************************