From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #504 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, February 15 2008 Volume 16 : Number 504 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: What is it with jazz? [Tom Clark ] Re: Station To Station (was: retraction) [2fs ] Re: Station To Station (was: retraction) [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] costello to tour with the police [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: My name is "Eb", and Lee Harvey Oswald slept here (and here, and here, and *here*...) p.s., Lee Harvey Oswald was *not* a patsy -- but he *was* a quadruple-agent! [] Re: My name is "Eb", and Lee Harvey Oswald slept here (and here, and here, and *here*...) p.s., Lee Harvey Oswald was *not* a patsy -- but he *was* a quadruple-agent! [] Re: My name is "Eb", and Lee Harvey Oswald slept here (and here, and here, and *here*...) p.s., Lee Harvey Oswald was *not* a patsy -- but he *was* a quadruple-agent! [] Re: My name is "Eb", and Lee Harvey Oswald slept here (and here, and here, and *here*...) p.s., Lee Harvey Oswald was *not* a patsy -- but he *was* a quadruple-agent! [] Re: My name is "Eb", and Lee Harvey Oswald slept here (and here, and here, and *here*...) p.s., Lee Harvey Oswald was *not* a patsy -- but he *was* a quadruple-agent! [] Idle Musings ["Stacked Crooked" ] Re: My name is "Eb", and Lee Harvey Oswald slept here (and here, and here, and *here*...) p.s., Lee Harvey Oswald was *not* a patsy -- but he *was* a quadruple-agent! [] Re: Idle Musings [Rex ] Re: Idle Musings ["kevin studyvin" ] Re: What is it with jazz? [lep ] Re: Idle Musings [lep ] Re: Idle Musings [Rex ] Re: Idle Musings ["kevin studyvin" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #503 [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: What is it with jazz? ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: My name is "Eb", and Lee Harvey Oswald slept here (and here, and here, and *here*...) p.s., Lee Harvey Oswald was *not* a patsy -- but he *was* a quadruple-agent! [] Re: What is it with jazz? [Rex ] Re: My name is "Eb", and Lee Harvey Oswald slept here (and here, and here, and *here*...) p.s., Lee Harvey Oswald was *not* a patsy -- but he *was* a quadruple-agent! [] Re: My name is "Eb", and Lee Harvey Oswald slept here (and here, and here, and *here*...) p.s., Lee Harvey Oswald was *not* a patsy -- but he *was* a quadruple-agent! [] Rev. Huck vs. Classic rock, circa 1976 [Michael Sweeney ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:31:15 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: What is it with jazz? On Feb 15, 2008, at 8:59 AM, lep wrote: > tc says: >> On Feb 15, 2008, at 8:22 AM, lep wrote: >> >>> p.s. brush with greatness: eric raymond started sitting in on my >>> ontology class two weeks ago. no one else knows who he is >> >> including me. Who is he? > > you're not at 100% geek level to-day?! > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_S._Raymond Ugh, another self-important freetard. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:10:40 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Station To Station (was: retraction) On 2/15/08, HwyCDRrev@aol.com wrote: > > or the think white duke is cocaine > I think with Bowie in particular, attempts to reduce his images to one-to-one correspondences are bound to fail. First, writing in code is a boring way to write - it's likelier, esp. given Bowie's interest at that time in chance procedures like Burroughs' cut-ups, that Bowie intentionally left things open to interpretation and multiple possibilities. Second, he was coked out of his mind during much of this era, and it's entirely possible he had no idea what any of it meant, or if he did then, he doesn't any more. Great album regardless - although I like the subsequent Berlin trilogy even better, particularly _Low_. ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:15:07 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: Station To Station (was: retraction) actually i agree that's why i never bothered to figure it out before but we both agree the cocaine had something to do with it Eno was also into that Burroughs' logic so it was a perfect match In a message dated 2/15/2008 3:11:10 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com writes: I think with Bowie in particular, attempts to reduce his images to one-to-one correspondences are bound to fail. First, writing in code is a boring way to write - it's likelier, esp. given Bowie's interest at that time in chance procedures like Burroughs' cut-ups, that Bowie intentionally left things open to interpretation and multiple possibilities. Second, he was coked out of his mind during much of this era, and it's entirely possible he had no idea what any of it meant, or if he did then, he doesn't any more. Great album regardless - although I like the subsequent Berlin trilogy even better, particularly _Low_. **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:11:55 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: costello to tour with the police _http://www.ticketmaster.com/artist/734817?start=1&rpp=20&list_view=1_ (http://www.ticketmaster.com/artist/734817?start=1&rpp=20&list_view=1) **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:24:20 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and Lee Harvey Oswald slept here (and here, and here, and *here*...) p.s., Lee Harvey Oswald was *not* a patsy -- but he *was* a quadruple-agent! On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:00 AM, Stacked Crooked wrote: > > but this still leaves rex's other question unanswered: why only video > games? why don't the producers of canvas refuse to allow "offensive" > paintings to be sold on "their" media? why don't sony and phillips, as > quail mentioned (particularly confusing, considering sony's apparent > contradictory stance with regards to console games), refuse to allow > "offensive" recordings to be sold on "their" media? After thinking about it, I think it works like this: the console manufacturers self-identify their products as "toys" (or similar, certainly a non-adult product). So looking for an "adult" console game is analogous to seeking out a pornographic Viewmaster stereogram. Somehow, and again even though some of the same manufacturers are involved, the consoles fall short of "standards" as media, unlike "universal" media like DVD's or CD's, so the manufacturers get to keep a tighter leash on them. How that happened, I can't imagine. > > > and why didn't earlier-generation console-manufacturers place content > restrictions on third-party game-makers? Probably: They didn't think of it back then. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the 3rd party "porn" games for the 2600, which reflected poorly on the whole industry, were one of the reasons the console people went for greater control this time around. Also possible: The earlier consoles were way easier to hack? > and why aren't unauthorized games sold? i can only imagine it's because > the manufacturers would then withhold "legitimage" product from > recalcitrant vendors. but, again, i've got to believe that this practice > could be tested in the courts -- it's pretty blatantly discriminatory, if > you ask me. (i suppose the console manufacturers would argue that they > don't disallow *all* sexually explicit games; but only those that, to come > back to the kristin hersh line, lack "integrity"...or, perhaps, those that > they adjudge "obscene". still, one can't help wonder why it's not been > tested.) Here's my guess on that one: games wishing for adult content are well aware that the console systems are not going to provide it, but it's no big deal since they can just migrate online and start buying dongs on Second Life. Old medial parallel: Joe-Bob Finally-Of-Age stops waiting for adult-content Viewmaster discs, and goes on down to Porno Hut, where he can easily and legally get what he wants. > > to get a bit nit-picky, "fascism" is really about the economic twining of > state and capital. "totalitarian" would be more appropriate terminology > for the structure of "corporate entities" (to paraphrase quail's > language). > but even there, we're talking more about the *mercantilist* side of the > entities, rather than the capitalist side (which is more to do with the > exploitation of labor). Those are useful distinctions. It's also always been my understanding that "censorship" is the unique province of the state, unless it's preceded by a modifier like, in this case, "self'-" or "corporate" (which is why Don Imus wasn't censored but indeed pulled of the air as a result of sponsor boycotts, which is (ironically, as I see it) actully "the market at work). > > > and here, there's another layer of confusion: by disallowing certain games > to come to market, they're affecting their licensing revenue. i guess > they > figure that the game-makers will almost always (as carrie notes, having > already invested the resources in development) toe the line and bring the > game to market after having rendered it "acceptable". but still, you'd > imagine there'd be a pretty decent niche market for hard-core (however you > wanna define that) games. Surely there is, and it is catered to outside the console market. > anyway, i don't think this has to do with the inherent nature of corporate > entities because, as you've noted, we don't, with the somewhat-exception > of > the NC-17 (and even here, the flipside being that the "unrated" versions > of > the films' DVDs are proudly trumpeted in the market), see the practice in > other media. I guess that goes back to whether or not the media is "open source". In order to have a parallel model, you'd have to posit a world where each distinct corporate entity had its own, say, gauge of film or size of videocassette or whatever. There is of course the format war in HD discs going on now, but imaging Sony, Paramount, Warners, Fox, Disney etc. *all* had their own proprietary HD video format. It's not quite an exact parallel, but it's getting there. i was thinking more along the lines of game-buyers that were "in the know" > would ask for the latest underground games, which the clerk keeps hidden > "under the counter". or, similarly, that there would be indie shops that > figured the evil corporations had too much to worry about to send their > spies to an out-of-the-way backwater, and so just stock the unauthorised > games on the shelves right along-side the "legitimate" games -- much like > many indie record stores openly stock bootlegs, and/or sell product before > the official street-date. > I think that does exist online, just as leaked records and trailers (etc.) do now, in place of those indie record stores. In the case of games, if you can get them on your PC, you don't need a console (any more than you really need a CD player any more), so the question is how long that model can go on. My guess? Consoles are basically throwbacks at this point. Young kids are the market because they're not savvy enough yet to get the games online, and their parents are the market because, having grown up with Intellivisions and 5200's, consoles are the model they understand (that is, it's tangible to them when their kids want a Wii for Christmas, in a way that it wouldn't be if their kids asked for money to pour into their coffers for World of Warcraft (nb. even I am not sure I understand the pay-to-play online model, but I think it goes something like that). > > i assume that you mean *50* gb? either way, when it rains it pours! > sorry, dude! Nope. I meant 500, actually. Quite a typo there. I imagine a few more jaws have just hit the floor. It was my whole astonishingly large music collection. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:06:43 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and Lee Harvey Oswald slept here (and here, and here, and *here*...) p.s., Lee Harvey Oswald was *not* a patsy -- but he *was* a quadruple-agent! On 2/15/08, Rex wrote: > > > > After thinking about it, I think it works like this: the console > manufacturers self-identify their products as "toys" (or similar, > certainly > a non-adult product). So looking for an "adult" console game is analogous > to seeking out a pornographic Viewmaster stereogram. Errmmm...I'm pretty sure that at one point I read that 19c porn was viewed through an apparatus very similar to the Viewmaster...and in fact, the development of the technology was, once again, more or less led by the demand for porn. Certainly (as someone else pointed out) nearly every damned aspect of these here interwebs has been driven by the demand for better, quicker, faster, higher-rez porn... It makes sense: there's lot of money flying around, lots of demand for better, more realistic* - and so, who else has the money and impetus to make the tech work better? * Although "realistic" has its limits: I imagine your super-hi-rez BluRay image blown up to the size of yr average wall of a house might also reveal that the makeup dude missed what is now a huge enormous and distracting zit on the actress's inner thigh...which in lower-rez no one would have noticed... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:36:44 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and Lee Harvey Oswald slept here (and here, and here, and *here*...) p.s., Lee Harvey Oswald was *not* a patsy -- but he *was* a quadruple-agent! On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 1:06 PM, 2fs wrote: > On 2/15/08, Rex wrote: > > > > > > > > After thinking about it, I think it works like this: the console > > manufacturers self-identify their products as "toys" (or similar, > > certainly > > a non-adult product). So looking for an "adult" console game is > > analogous > > to seeking out a pornographic Viewmaster stereogram. > > > > Errmmm...I'm pretty sure that at one point I read that 19c porn was viewed > through an apparatus very similar to the Viewmaster...and in fact, the > development of the technology was, once again, more or less led by the > demand for porn. Yeah, but not the PlaySkool (TM) ViewMaster (TM). My point being that the particular viewing apparatus (ViewMaster, Wii) is designed to accept a unique format of media, and that unique media is intended to be for a certain age range. My kids have these little portable DVD players that play these unique 3/4 scale (approx) DVD's engineered to drive their unique little displays. So yes, the engineering of the DVD in general is, to quote Suzanne Vega, a pornographer's dream, but the VideoNow! Jr. Kid-Friendly Portable "DVD" Player (TM) is not... it's its own, erm, submedia (just as the console games are on what appear to be plain ol' CD's or DVD's, but are not compatible with anything but their parent console). > * Although "realistic" has its limits: I imagine your super-hi-rez BluRay > image blown up to the size of yr average wall of a house might also reveal > that the makeup dude missed what is now a huge enormous and distracting zit > on the actress's inner thigh...which in lower-rez no one would have > noticed... My guess is they still won't, unless what's happening in the rest of the frame is really really dull. It's true, though... resolution itself isn't going to make your porn any better. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:46:45 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and Lee Harvey Oswald slept here (and here, and here, and *here*...) p.s., Lee Harvey Oswald was *not* a patsy -- but he *was* a quadruple-agent! On 2/15/08, Rex wrote: > > dull. It's true, though... resolution itself isn't going to make your > porn any better. > I'd say the answer to that question is in the pants of the beholder. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:48:11 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and Lee Harvey Oswald slept here (and here, and here, and *here*...) p.s., Lee Harvey Oswald was *not* a patsy -- but he *was* a quadruple-agent! On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 1:46 PM, 2fs wrote: > On 2/15/08, Rex wrote: > > > dull. It's true, though... resolution itself isn't going to make your > > porn any better. > > > > I'd say the answer to that question is in the pants of the beholder. > Yes, you do hold the answer in your hand. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:12:07 -0800 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: Idle Musings - -- so i've got about one-point-five albums (half of *Weld*, and *Sleeps With Angels*) remaining in the latest instantiation of my alphabetical-listen-a-thon (this one begun in august of '05). latest listening spurred me to wonder (curiously, never wondered this before) why robyn has never covered neil young. "My My, Hey Hey" would be a particularly good fit, i would think (perhaps he'd consider it too cliche?). he *has* covered a "neil" (diamond), i notice. - -- dime-load of the moment: rufus, from november of last year, in berlin. great performance, beautiful sound (FM-sourced), and funny/cool between-song banter. for some reason, not only have rufus' last three rekkids "clicked" with me much more better than the first two; but i've also suddenly found myself very much digging many of the decemberists' more down-tempo songs (had not really noticed before how similar the two's voices are), which i had previously dismissed as way too boring. most dramatically, i was recently listening to a show from last year, and nearly broke down and started bawling during "I Was Meant For The Stage", a song which i'd scoffed upon on any number of occasions. anyhow, as you were... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:35:53 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and Lee Harvey Oswald slept here (and here, and here, and *here*...) p.s., Lee Harvey Oswald was *not* a patsy -- but he *was* a quadruple-agent! On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 11:00 AM, Stacked Crooked wrote: > hey, any jazz-pianist recommendations? (offlist is fine if people are > sick > of the chime-in-recommendation threads -- though i'll note that i for one > am most certainly *not* sick of them.) > Monk comes to mind immediately. Keith Jarret, specifically the 1970s quartet recordings with Charlie Haden/Dewey Redman/Paul Motian - that quartet is one of my favorite bands in the world, ever. (He also played some genuinely sick stuff during his tenure with Miles Davis, regardless of his lifelong bias against electronic music.) Mose Allison isn't a slouch either. Bill Evans. Duke Ellington. Joe Zawinul. That's all I got at the moment. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:38:01 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Idle Musings On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Stacked Crooked wrote: > -- so i've got about one-point-five albums (half of *Weld*, and *Sleeps > With Angels*) remaining in the latest instantiation of my > alphabetical-listen-a-thon (this one begun in august of '05). latest > listening spurred me to wonder (curiously, never wondered this before) why > robyn has never covered neil young. "My My, Hey Hey" would be a > particularly good fit, i would think (perhaps he'd consider it too > cliche?). Mentioned recently around here (within the last few months), RH has made a couple of recent comments about NY, none of them incredibly favorable (although not outright disses, either). I'd rather hear Robyn's take on some oddball rambling Neil sleepwalk-type deal... "Cortez" or "Pocohantas" or summat. Of course I always welcome anyone covering "Fuckin' Up". With the V3 or SB's, one of the Springfield tunes might be cool.. "Mr. Soul", eh? To my ears, "Filthy Bird" is RH's most Neily moment. Hey, did that "Chicks Cover Neil" compilation ever come out? The sample of Kristin Hersh (Ms. Swearing with Integrity Herself) and 50 Foot Wave doing "Like a Hurricane" was mighty cool. (Then again, Tanya Donnelly's version of "Sweet Ghost of Light" never did surface either, did it?) - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:44:32 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Idle Musings "Cowgirl In the Sand" would go down like honey with one of RH's down-tempo acoustic guitar parts and that lazy, ironic delivery. Think "Queen Elvis." I'd expect he could tear up "Campaigner" too. And how 'bout them Soft Boys doing "Winterlong" (or, more recently, "I'm the Ocean")? On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:12 PM, Stacked Crooked wrote: > -- so i've got about one-point-five albums (half of *Weld*, and *Sleeps > With Angels*) remaining in the latest instantiation of my > alphabetical-listen-a-thon (this one begun in august of '05). latest > listening spurred me to wonder (curiously, never wondered this before) why > robyn has never covered neil young. "My My, Hey Hey" would be a > particularly good fit, i would think (perhaps he'd consider it too > cliche?). he *has* covered a "neil" (diamond), i notice. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:55:56 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: What is it with jazz? tc says: > On Feb 15, 2008, at 8:59 AM, lep wrote: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_S._Raymond > > Ugh, another self-important freetard. i will suggest an addition to the jargon file; it seems to have been overlooked: http://catb.org/jargon/html/go01.html as ever, lauren p.s. i just love this stuff: http://catb.org/jargon/html/M/mandelbug.html here's one for jeff 2fs: http://catb.org/jargon/html/B/BiCapitalization.html - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:02:39 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: Idle Musings kevin says: > "Cowgirl In the Sand" would go down like honey with one of RH's down-tempo > acoustic guitar parts and that lazy, ironic delivery. Think "Queen Elvis." > I'd expect he could tear up "Campaigner" too. And how 'bout them Soft Boys > doing "Winterlong" (or, more recently, "I'm the Ocean")? oh, that's all lovely. the thought of robyn doing "campaigner" just about breaks my heart. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:04:11 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Idle Musings On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:44 PM, kevin studyvin wrote: > "Cowgirl In the Sand" would go down like honey with one of RH's down-tempo > acoustic guitar parts and that lazy, ironic delivery. See the version on the expanded "4-Way Street"... I'd expect he could tear up "Campaigner" too. And how 'bout them Soft Boys > doing "Winterlong" (or, more recently, "I'm the Ocean")? I love "I'm the Ocean". I think it's one of Neil's best and most-misunderstood songs. Those two things go together a *lot* with Neil. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:10:54 -0800 From: "kevin studyvin" Subject: Re: Idle Musings > With the V3 or SB's, one of the Springfield > tunes might be cool.. "Mr. Soul", eh? > > OK, put that on the list too. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 12:13:56 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #503 > > p.s. brush with greatness: eric raymond started sitting in on my > > ontology class two weeks ago. no one else knows who he is > >including me. Who is he? part of the great non-existent Eric conspiracy (and friend of an ex- of mine) James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:37:10 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: What is it with jazz? lep wrote: > > (i know of him from the jargon file.) and what he did to it shouldn't happen to a dog. The dwindling respect I had for him (you ever used fetchmail? .... successfully, without it choking?) vanished when he started putting words of his own coining into it. His warblogging was intensely stupid, too. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:51:58 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and Lee Harvey Oswald slept here (and here, and here, and *here*...) p.s., Lee Harvey Oswald was *not* a patsy -- but he *was* a quadruple-agent! Rex wrote: > > Yeah, but not the PlaySkool (TM) ViewMaster (TM). Don't you bet on it. The format has an open specification, and those smutty Czechs made use of it: . Stewart (anyone remember the *talking* ViewMaster?) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 15:53:54 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: What is it with jazz? On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 2:55 PM, lep wrote: > ** > > here's one for jeff 2fs: > http://catb.org/jargon/html/B/BiCapitalization.html That's nice. Although I really think the Mid!Word Punctuation deserves a term of its own. Dude... my 6 year old can do the its/it's thing. I love her so much. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:23:42 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and Lee Harvey Oswald slept here (and here, and here, and *here*...) p.s., Lee Harvey Oswald was *not* a patsy -- but he *was* a quadruple-agent! On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Rex wrote: > > > > Yeah, but not the PlaySkool (TM) ViewMaster (TM). > > Don't you bet on it. The format has an open specification, and those > smutty Czechs made use of it: . > Has it really taken this long from beginning to discuss porn until someone acutally posted a *link* to some? Wow. Small disappointment here in that we don't see the actual... erm... pairs of stereo images, so we can't, as Count Floyd would say, see them... coming right out at you! The... monsters... and things... What's up with the czick and the model boat? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:39:14 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and Lee Harvey Oswald slept here (and here, and here, and *here*...) p.s., Lee Harvey Oswald was *not* a patsy -- but he *was* a quadruple-agent! On Feb 15, 2008, at 3:51 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > (anyone remember the *talking* ViewMaster?) That thing went through batteries so quickly. I can still hear the bzzt-buzz sound in my mind. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 00:42:07 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Rev. Huck vs. Classic rock, circa 1976 News item: "Boston founder has 'More Than a Feeling' about Huckabee's use of song" -- http://tinyurl.com/26ew8t ...Dude! Schooled by Tom Scholz! Seriously, though -- wouldn't you think Huckabee would be playing songs like, oh, I don't know...maybe "Thank God I'm a Country Boy" or even "Son of a Preacher Man" instead of "real" rock and / or roll at his rallies? Next thing you know, Rev. Huck's gonna start prancing onstage, Jagger-rooster-style, to "Sympathy for the Devil" -- "Pleased to meet you / Hope you guess my name." ("Hoo-hoo!," indeed...) Michael "Of course, Hillary choosing a Celine Dion song is positively satanic in a completely different way..." Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 19:57:06 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: Idle Musings yeah - it's difficult to imagine some songs that RH could do the accent might get in the way ? campaigner is a brilliant choice i like the idea of him covering Harvest on acoustic guitar and See The Sky About To Rain on piano and maybe one of those versions done with a wild solo electric guitar : Hippie Dream In a message dated 2/15/2008 5:50:24 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, kstudyvin@gmail.com writes: "Cowgirl In the Sand" would go down like honey with one of RH's down-tempo acoustic guitar parts and that lazy, ironic delivery. Think "Queen Elvis." I'd expect he could tear up "Campaigner" too. And how 'bout them Soft Boys doing "Winterlong" (or, more recently, "I'm the Ocean")? **************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 16:59:30 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Rev. Huck vs. Classic rock, circa 1976 On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Michael Sweeney wrote: > News item: "Boston founder has 'More Than a Feeling' about Huckabee's use > of > song" -- http://tinyurl.com/26ew8t > ...Dude! Schooled by Tom Scholz! Seriously, though -- wouldn't you > think > Huckabee would be playing songs like, oh, I don't know...maybe "Thank God > I'm > a Country Boy" or even "Son of a Preacher Man" instead of "real" rock and > / or > roll at his rallies? > > Next thing you know, Rev. Huck's gonna start prancing onstage, > Jagger-rooster-style, to "Sympathy for the Devil" -- "Pleased to meet you > / > Hope you guess my name." ("Hoo-hoo!," indeed...) > You can't prance while you're wranglin' the thunder-broom: http://www.state.wv.us/sga/HuckabeeGuitar_300.jpg (Actually, Mike Watt does look sort of like that these days...) - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 20:31:11 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Rev. Huck vs. Classic rock, circa 1976 On 2/15/08, Rex wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Michael Sweeney > wrote: > > > > News item: "Boston founder has 'More Than a Feeling' about Huckabee's > use > > of > > song" -- http://tinyurl.com/26ew8t > > ...Dude! Schooled by Tom Scholz! And this: "Obama frequently blares U2's "City of Blinding Lights" at his events." Now, if that had said "Obama frequently blares Zappa's 'City of Tiny Lights' at his events," that would've been utterly cool. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #504 ********************************