From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #469 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, January 29 2008 Volume 16 : Number 469 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: apropos of nothing [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: apropos of nothing [2fs ] Re: apropos of nothing [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Greater London council festivals and pix for Who fans who have coveted EB's ass ( no robyn ) [great white shark <] Re: long as we're talking about Angel... [craigie* ] Re: apropos of nothing [2fs ] PS3 [The Great Quail ] reap [lep ] Re: apropos of nothing [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: long as we're talking about Angel... [lep ] "get over her" song--totally OT [Marcy Tanter ] puppet Spike [Christopher Gross ] Re: "get over her" song--totally OT [lep ] Re: puppet Spike ["Sumiko Keay" ] Re: puppet Spike [lep ] Re: apropos of nothing ["Jason Brown" ] Re: apropos of nothing [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: apropos of nothing [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: "get over her" song--totally OT [Benjamin Lukoff ] RE: "get over her" song--totally OT ["michael wells" ] Re: why couldn't I be... [gaseous clay ] Re: "get over her" song--totally OT [Rex ] Re: "get over her" song--totally OT ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: "get over her" song--totally OT [2fs ] Free music [Steve Schiavo ] Quick (like, really quick) feg survey [Rex ] Re: Quick (like, really quick) feg survey [kevin From: Capuchin > >On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: >> Go the Gunners! and the Bees, too... chance for glory this weekend... > >So this is an interesting construction. "Go the Gunners!" > >Is this distinct from, say, "Go Gunners!"? I mean, sure, they are, >collectively, the Gunners, but you root for each of them as Gunners, no? Sounds like a UK/US difference to me. You support the team as a team - - it's analogous to the fact that you'd say "Go team!", not "Go individual members of team!" If your team's nickname is "The Tigers", then surely you'd say "Go the Tigers". If the team's nickname was simply "Tigers", then "Go Tigers" would make sense. (and no, I don't root for them. I do any rooting for myself ;) As it happens, the Gunners (Arsenal) won and are through to the last 16 of this year's F.A. Cup. The Bees (Barnet) didn't, losing 1-0 to higher ranked opposition. They're a pretty lowly-ranked team, though... getting through to the last 32 was a reasonable achievement. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 23:26:26 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: apropos of nothing On 1/27/08, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > >From: Capuchin > > > >On Sat, 26 Jan 2008, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > >> Go the Gunners! and the Bees, too... chance for glory this weekend... > > > >So this is an interesting construction. "Go the Gunners!" > > > >Is this distinct from, say, "Go Gunners!"? I mean, sure, they are, > >collectively, the Gunners, but you root for each of them as Gunners, no? > > Sounds like a UK/US difference to me. I'm sure it is, but... > If your team's nickname is "The Tigers", > then surely you'd say "Go the Tigers". If the team's nickname was > simply "Tigers", then "Go Tigers" would make sense. ..."the Tigers" and "Tigers" would be used in the US to refer to the same team, in slightly different contexts - no one would ever imagine those to be two different teams. You'd say "the Tigers' chances this year are slim," say - - or you might refer to "Tigers fans nevertheless are optimistic." Reversing the pronoun usage would seem odd in both cases, in US usage anyway (the second one would be less strange and just barely possible - perhaps in a context where two groups of fans were being compared). - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:37:47 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: apropos of nothing - --On 27. Januar 2008 23:26:26 -0600 2fs wrote: > or you might refer to "Tigers fans nevertheless are optimistic." Reversing > the pronoun usage would seem odd in both cases, in US usage anyway (the > second one would be less strange and just barely possible - perhaps in a > context where two groups of fans were being compared). Note that in US usage it would be "The Tigers fans", whereas in NZ/UK apparently it would be "The Tigers' fans"(?). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:24:24 +1030 From: great white shark Subject: Greater London council festivals and pix for Who fans who have coveted EB's ass ( no robyn ) UK fegs anyone on the list attend any of the free concerts in the parks between 1978 and 1985? I ask as I need contributions for these festivals on my website , bands who performed include the smiths, spear of destiny, the damned, billy bragg, redskins, etc, etc. I have yet to put up the 1985 shows as I need more info , also info on jobs / peace marches that ended in musical performances in the parks view here http://www.ukrockfestivals.com/festival-updates.html also a lot of who photos from 1979, some real corkers as well as lots and lots of other festival info up to 1990 http://www.ukrockfestivals.com/The-Who-wembley-1979.html der kommander ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:11:58 +0000 From: craigie* Subject: Re: long as we're talking about Angel... I have the VampireAngel puppet too... I'll post a picture to Flickr later... ... and there's a Puppet Spike too (for some reason...) I don't have that one yet, but it's on my list! c* On 25/01/2008, 2fs wrote: > > A friend of mine is a collector - I took this shot of one of his items: < > http://www.flickr.com/photos/2fs/2175971131/>. The sword thing was pretty > much an accident...but it rather matches the facial expression I think... > > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.blogspot.com > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... I like my girls to be the same as my records - independent, attractively packaged and in black vinyl (if at all possible)... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 10:02:19 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: apropos of nothing On 1/28/08, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > --On 27. Januar 2008 23:26:26 -0600 2fs wrote: > > > or you might refer to "Tigers fans nevertheless are optimistic." > Reversing > > the pronoun usage would seem odd in both cases, in US usage anyway (the > > second one would be less strange and just barely possible - perhaps in a > > context where two groups of fans were being compared). > > Note that in US usage it would be "The Tigers fans", whereas in NZ/UK > apparently it would be "The Tigers' fans"(?). In the US we seem to treat "Tigers" as a noun working adjectivally (compare "Robyn Hitchcock fan"), whereas apparently, the usage you attribute to NZ/UK treats it as a plural possessive. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:05:20 -0500 From: The Great Quail Subject: PS3 > So, any other PS3 users on the list? Yes, I have one. Though I *prefer* my Xbox 360 for many reasons, and tend to use the PS3 more as a Blu-Ray player, I do have one. If you get online, send me a Buddy request. My PS3 tag is "GreatQuail." - --Quail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:29:17 -0500 From: lep Subject: reap christian brando, son of marlon brando, age 49. http://uk.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUKN2639372320080128 or http://tinyurl.com/2c83m4 xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:11:25 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: apropos of nothing On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > --On 27. Januar 2008 23:26:26 -0600 2fs wrote: > > > or you might refer to "Tigers fans nevertheless are optimistic." Reversing > > the pronoun usage would seem odd in both cases, in US usage anyway (the > > second one would be less strange and just barely possible - perhaps in a > > context where two groups of fans were being compared). > > Note that in US usage it would be "The Tigers fans", whereas in NZ/UK > apparently it would be "The Tigers' fans"(?). This may already have been mentioned, but I think more commonly in the US it would be "Tigers fans," no article. Though "The Tigers fans" is certainly possible. But there's a slight difference in meaning, methinks. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:11:05 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: long as we're talking about Angel... craigie* says: > ... and there's a Puppet Spike too (for some reason...) I don't have that > one yet, but it's on my list! you're just saying that! xo lauren, off to play with my puppet faith ;) - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 12:47:09 -0800 (PST) From: Marcy Tanter Subject: "get over her" song--totally OT Folks, I have a friend who broke up with his ex-wife a few years ago and he's still hung up on her. They have a son so he sees her more than he should and he won't quit helping her out with stuff. He still loves her and is wallowing in hurt, self-pity, etc., even tho' she cheated on him more than once AND she dumped him to boot! So I need a good song to send him--something that's a kick up the arse and says, "hey! get over her and get back to your life!" Any ideas??? Thanks! Marcy - --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:06:05 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: puppet Spike No one has posted the link (unless I just forgot), so.... http://www.diamondselecttoys.com/store.asp?p=item.asp%3FItemNo%3D48506%26CategoryID%3D73 - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:10:58 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: "get over her" song--totally OT Marcy says: > So I need a good song to send him--something that's a kick up the arse and says, "hey! get over her and get back to your life!" > > Any ideas??? "boys for pele" worked for me. only it's more than one song. and i had to listen to it like 1500 times. but it worked. eventually. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:11:46 -0600 From: "Sumiko Keay" Subject: Re: puppet Spike Adorable! And there is a puppet!Faith? I think that there should be a puppet Illyria. Sumi On 1/28/08, Christopher Gross wrote: > No one has posted the link (unless I just forgot), so.... > > http://www.diamondselecttoys.com/store.asp?p=item.asp%3FItemNo%3D48506%26CategoryID%3D73 > > > --Chris > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. > chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:12:05 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: puppet Spike Christopher Gross explained: > No one has posted the link (unless I just forgot), so.... > > http://www.diamondselecttoys.com/store.asp?p=item.asp%3FItemNo%3D48506%26CategoryID%3D73 that's just...wrong. as ever, lauren - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:16:57 -0800 From: "Jason Brown" Subject: Re: apropos of nothing On Jan 28, 2008 11:11 AM, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > This may already have been mentioned, but I think more commonly in the US > it would be "Tigers fans," no article. Though "The Tigers fans" is > certainly possible. But there's a slight difference in meaning, methinks. "Tigers fans are assholes" would be right but "Tiger fans are assholes" is also common. You'd only use "the Tigers fans" in a sentence like this: "The tigers fans at this bar are assholes. "Some teams trend to singulars like "Yankee fans" and I always read/hear "Red Sox fans" as "Red Sock fans". Although the Red Sox bear total blame for starting the whole "______ Nation" trend. I heard someone say Mariner Nation on the radio other day and threw up in my mouth a little - -- "Never go with a hippie to a second location." - Jack Donaghy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:54:12 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: apropos of nothing > >Is this distinct from, say, "Go Gunners!"? I mean, sure, they are, >>collectively, the Gunners, but you root for each of them as Gunners, no? > >Sounds like a UK/US difference to me. > >I'm sure it is, but... > >If your team's nickname is "The Tigers", >then surely you'd say "Go the Tigers". If the team's nickname was >simply "Tigers", then "Go Tigers" would make sense. > >..."the Tigers" and "Tigers" would be used in the US to refer to the >same team, in slightly different contexts - no one would ever >imagine those to be two different teams. You'd say "the Tigers' >chances this year are slim," say - or you might refer to "Tigers >fans nevertheless are optimistic." Reversing the pronoun usage would >seem odd in both cases, in US usage anyway (the second one would be >less strange and just barely possible - perhaps in a context where >two groups of fans were being compared). well, that's the same here - the local rugby team is the Highlanders, and we'd talk about "the Highlanders' chances this season" and "Highlanders fans" - but we'd still say "Go the Highlanders", because we're supporting the team as a team, not as individual players. BTW - to Fegs in general - I've been having some "differences" with my ISP in the last day or two - if there was any mail addressed my way in the last 24 hours, chances are it will have gone astray - please send it again! James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:54:00 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: apropos of nothing On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Jason Brown wrote: > "Tigers fans are assholes" would be right but "Tiger fans are > assholes" is also common. You'd only use "the Tigers fans" in a > sentence like this: "The tigers fans at this bar are assholes. "Some > teams trend to singulars like "Yankee fans" and I always read/hear > "Red Sox fans" as "Red Sock fans". Although the Red Sox bear total > blame for starting the whole "______ Nation" trend. I heard someone > say Mariner Nation on the radio other day and threw up in my mouth a > little Just like in Dodgeball, eh? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:56:12 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: "get over her" song--totally OT On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Marcy Tanter wrote: > Folks, I have a friend who broke up with his ex-wife a few years ago and > he's still hung up on her. They have a son so he sees her more than he > should and he won't quit helping her out with stuff. He still loves her > and is wallowing in hurt, self-pity, etc., even tho' she cheated on him > more than once AND she dumped him to boot! So I need a good song to send > him--something that's a kick up the arse and says, "hey! get over her > and get back to your life!" Any ideas??? The Kinks' "No More Looking Back"? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:47:57 -0800 From: "michael wells" Subject: RE: "get over her" song--totally OT > "hey! get over her and get back to your life!" Any ideas??? Mojo Nixon. Buttloads of Mojo and the Toadliquors are gar-un-teed to get your friend off the schnide. Since Nuppy's happily married now, maybe he could send you the one I sent him about five years ago! Also an XBOX fan, Michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:23:35 -0800 From: JBJ Subject: Re: "get over her" song--totally OT I think "Keep Your Distance" by Richard Thompson (off 1991 Rumor & Sigh LP) is apropos here. On Jan 28, 2008 12:47 PM, Marcy Tanter wrote: > Folks, I have a friend who broke up with his ex-wife a few years ago and > he's still hung up on her. They have a son so he sees her more than he > should and he won't quit helping her out with stuff. He still loves her and > is wallowing in hurt, self-pity, etc., even tho' she cheated on him more > than once AND she dumped him to boot! So I need a good song to send > him--something that's a kick up the arse and says, "hey! get over her and > get back to your life!" > > Any ideas??? > > Thanks! > Marcy > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it > now. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:42:40 -0500 From: gaseous clay Subject: Re: why couldn't I be... >...a Tampa Bay Devil Rays fan? We will be babysitting this computer all >fucking day, hoping to get out of the Virtual Waiting Room to buy Red Sox >tickets, and we'll find ourselves lucky to get right field tickets way up >in the nosebleed section for a fucking Texas Rangers game. Yes, if we're >lucky. been there, done that, sun-burned the t-shirt. +w ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:59:12 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: "get over her" song--totally OT On Jan 28, 2008 12:47 PM, Marcy Tanter wrote: > Folks, I have a friend who broke up with his ex-wife a few years ago and > he's still hung up on her. They have a son so he sees her more than he > should and he won't quit helping her out with stuff. He still loves her and > is wallowing in hurt, self-pity, etc., even tho' she cheated on him more > than once AND she dumped him to boot! So I need a good song to send > him--something that's a kick up the arse and says, "hey! get over her and > get back to your life!" > "Executioner". The whole of "Eye", really. So maybe the new box set while he's at it. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:22:51 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: "get over her" song--totally OT Marcy Tanter wrote: > > Any ideas??? The Monks - "Shut Up": angry garage punk from the 1960s. In fact, the whole of their album ("Black Monk Time") could be the perfect cure. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:31:23 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: "get over her" song--totally OT On Jan 28, 2008, at 1:56 PM, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, Marcy Tanter wrote: > >> Folks, I have a friend who broke up with his ex-wife a few years >> ago and >> he's still hung up on her. They have a son so he sees her more than >> he >> should and he won't quit helping her out with stuff. He still >> loves her >> and is wallowing in hurt, self-pity, etc., even tho' she cheated on >> him >> more than once AND she dumped him to boot! So I need a good song to >> send >> him--something that's a kick up the arse and says, "hey! get over her >> and get back to your life!" Any ideas??? > > The Kinks' "No More Looking Back"? Nashville Pussy "Go To Hell" - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:43:36 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: "get over her" song--totally OT On 1/28/08, Marcy Tanter wrote: > > Folks, I have a friend who broke up with his ex-wife a few years ago and > he's still hung up on her. They have a son so he sees her more than he > should and he won't quit helping her out with stuff. He still loves her and > is wallowing in hurt, self-pity, etc., even tho' she cheated on him more > than once AND she dumped him to boot! So I need a good song to send > him--something that's a kick up the arse and says, "hey! get over her and > get back to your life!" A song? How about he gets good and laid? (Is that a song?) Anyway, bad news...I was being facetious, but I suspect he really won't get over her until he meets someone else...but he's unlikely to successfully meet someone so long as he's staring longingly in the rear-view mirror all the time... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:42:45 -0600 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Free music Lurch by Mike Viola username: lurch password: review - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:03:23 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Quick (like, really quick) feg survey This one's for my stepdaughter's homework... she's supposed to poll twenty (!) people on which of the following ice cream flavors-- pick one, any, or all: - -Chocolate - -Pistachio - -Cookie Dough - -Caramel Thanks for your assistance. - -Rex, with his ice cream hands ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 20:38:45 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: Quick (like, really quick) feg survey Chocolate, chocolate & chocolate. Also, french vanilla. & tin roof sundae and/or lime sherbet. >Subject: Quick (like, really quick) feg survey > >This one's for my stepdaughter's homework... she's supposed to poll twenty >(!) people on which of the following ice cream flavors-- pick one, any, or > >-Chocolate >-Pistachio >-Cookie Dough >-Caramel > >Thanks for your assistance. > >-Rex, with his ice cream hands ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:15:59 -0800 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: Re: 2 halves for the price of Eb's wing-wong uhm...what happens to me if i admit to having thought that the "skin it back" version had never been released? woj comes over and kicks me in the nuts? ah...no wonder the "two" different versions included in the torrent sound so similarly to each other! just pulled my copy of the armageddon *Moonlight*, and had a listen... i can't say that it's my preferred version of the song, but it is most certainly the "skin it back" version. it'll be included in the update, natch! ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #469 ********************************