From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #458 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, January 19 2008 Volume 16 : Number 458 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Step aside Spaghetti Monster - .5% RH Content [Rex ] Re: Reap: Chromium (II) oxide [Rex ] Re: i know you're all dying to know what my favourite movie of 2007 was... ["Stewart Russell" ] Re: i know you're all dying to know what my favourite movie of 2007 was... ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Persuasion [Jill Brand ] Re: Persuasion ["Sumiko Keay" ] the harbinger of the magnetic fields [lep ] Re: the harbinger of the magnetic fields [Sebastian Hagedorn ] D'oh! [Rex ] Re: D'oh! [2fs ] Re: D'oh! [Rex ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:33:05 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Step aside Spaghetti Monster - .5% RH Content On Jan 18, 2008 12:17 PM, m swedene wrote: > It is time to worship the Trilobyte! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf6TeoUdauA > > I was waiting to hear Robyn's vocals, but no such luck. > Even weirder, from the sidebar links... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icPnP-_Vhgo&NR=1 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 11:35:31 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #457 >2. A story -- likely of the "laughter is the best medicine" variety from >"Reader's Digest" or some other MOR pub: A guy named R. B. Jones, who >apparently has only initials (no actual name; see also "B.J. Hunnicutt," >"M*A*S*H") was struggling with some entity (Social Security, credit card >issuer, insurance company -- something like that) about ONLY IDing himself by >initials, while the Entity was insisting he tell them what his full name >was...And, so, after Mr. Jones -- cleverly and definitively, he thought -- >sought to solve the matter by filling out the Entity's most recent request for >his complete info to read: "R. (only) B. (only) Jones," sure enough, his next >response from the Entity came back to "Ronly Bonly Jones." Sigh... A true story in a similar vein of a friend of mine who was being asked for details via telephone on one occasions (the name has been altered to prevent the guilty): Q - "Can I have your name please?" F - "Smith" Q - "No, I need your first name as well" F - "Ah. (pause) David" You guessed it - official documentation for him came back as being for "R. David Smith" James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:34:43 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: Reap: Richard Knerr, 82; co-founded Wham-O Steve says: /* wonders who the frak stole my whizzer. */ xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:46:34 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: Step aside Spaghetti Monster - .5% RH Content eMike says: > It is time to worship the Trilobyte! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf6TeoUdauA after trilobyte church, i was looking for the interview clip of robyn talking about syd and how talent is rather like a tube of paint. i didn't find that, but i found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUg9sIqpYo4 this is something simultaneously charming and stupid about it. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 11:51:12 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: La Charity > > Say, would anyone, and I can't think of a single fucking reason why you > > should, want a big old box of cassette dubs of, like, whatever I was > > listening to between 1988 and 1993? > > >Has anyone else run into this issue, or been consciously avoiding it? > > >Like a lot of us, I'm guessing, I too have hundreds of cassette tapes >gathering dust (in my case, in basement shelves). Most of them are recorded >from friends, etc., back in the pre-disc-burning days (hell, pre-digital >days: my earliest cassettes date from like 1974 or '75, when I was 12 or >13). >I can't quite imagine getting rid of them - and occasionally, I'll dig one >out for a particular track, and they're in surprisingly good shape So digitise them. Or, at least, those bits you want. Given that my hearing's pretty apalling (rampant tinnitis), a little tape hiss isn't a huge problem for me, so at some point over the years I've "boiled down" what bits I haven't got in digital or vinyl form from any old mix tapes I've had. I now have a large box of old, essentially blank, cassettes, and a much smaller load of about 70 cassettes which contain any stuff that I've never been able to track down in any format (odd bootlegs, rarities, demos, etc). One of these days I'm going to get myself some crunchier computer hardware and burn it all down onto disc, along with anything interesting on my 4-track practice and demo tapes. Same thing largely applies to VCR tapes, though boiling those down causes much more drastic quality loss. But there are reasons why God gave us DVD-Rs, and that is one of them. >I have, sure. Since I still use my cassette 4-track as my primary >recording implement, I've just continued to repurpose the old dubs. It >makes for some pretty interesting track bleedthrough sometimes, >especially on tracks 3 and 4 (i.e. the opposite side backwards). That's the main use I have for the old tapes myself - though I did donate a huge wodge of them to a friend who is working on her psych PhD and who is conducting interviews with people as part of it. They're perfect for taping interviews on. Anyone with piles of these tapes might ook to do the same sort of thing. I'm sure that there are polytech and university students conducting interviews where you are, too, that would be only too keen to take some old usable tapes off your hands. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:59:05 -0500 From: lep Subject: i know you're all dying to know what my favourite movie of 2007 was... ...and i won't keep you waiting any longer. it's really tough to say it's not "no country for old men", but it's not. it's "before the devil knows you're dead." not much to say about this one (without spoilers), except that i expected to not care for it all that much - i'm a bit worn out on the "heist gone wrong" genre. fortunately, i saw it anyway. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:22:44 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: La Charity On 1/18/08, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > >= > >Like a lot of us, I'm guessing, I too have hundreds of cassette tapes > >gathering dust (in my case, in basement shelves). Most of them are > recorded > >from friends, etc., back in the pre-disc-burning days (hell, pre-digital > >days: my earliest cassettes date from like 1974 or '75, when I was 12 or > >13). > > >I can't quite imagine getting rid of them - and occasionally, I'll dig > one > >out for a particular track, and they're in surprisingly good shape > > So digitise them. Or, at least, those bits you want. Ah well see that would require effort. I used to have a database of everything I had on cassette - at some point (presumably in transferring data from one 'puter to another), I lost that - so it'd be much harder to find stuff. I'd probably do it if I had the database, so I could sort through what I have w/o physically having to do so. I really don't think there's much there that I'd miss. And I also know what'd happen about the stuff that I would: I'd decide I have to upgrade it (buy it on CD, download it, etc.). This would lead to a tedious disucssion on the list o' fegs re which things are in/out of print. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:26:09 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Reap: Chromium (II) oxide On Jan 18, 2008 1:22 PM, Christopher Gross wrote: > > At least they're your own tapes. Notorious Feg Bayard gave me a whole big > box of cassettes, hundreds of them, so that I could pick out the ones I > wanted and throw the rest away. I've been stepping around the box ever > since, without so much as opening it. It's been a year now. I guess you're not the guy who would want mine, then. > > > However, I'm still fond of those old tapes I made of the local college > radio station back when I was first discovering non-top-40 music. Never > listen to them, of course. But I am fond of them. And there it is. I'm totally keeping all my mutant mix tapes-- only really dumping the tapes that are just straight dubs of albums. I've done a really damned thorough job of replacing all my records with CD's over the years, so there's very, very little that I need to retain. And I'm digitizing all that shit as we speak: now ripping, David Byrne "Sounds from True Stories". - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:22:52 -0500 From: "Stewart Russell" Subject: Re: i know you're all dying to know what my favourite movie of 2007 was... On 18/01/2008, lep wrote: > ...and i won't keep you waiting any longer. Isn't that what blogs are for? - -- http://scruss.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:44:23 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: i know you're all dying to know what my favourite movie of 2007 was... Stewart says: > Isn't that what blogs are for? yes, of course. your point? xo + winky face, lauren - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:32:48 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Reap: Chromium (II) oxide If anyfeg has a good-quality screwed-together cassette carcase, I'd gladly pay appropriate costs + postage. I need to rescue an old cassette in a b0rken body, and you just can't get those cassette repair kits any more. cheers, Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:34:06 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: i know you're all dying to know what my favourite movie of 2007 was... lep wrote: > > your point? Made. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:48:23 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: i know you're all dying to know what my favourite movie of 2007 was... Stewart says: > lep wrote: > > > > your point? > > Made. i'll be happy to stop treating feglist as a blog when others start treating it like a robyn hitchcock mailing list. perhaps you think u.s. politics and buffy* are more relevant to this list than movies; i don't. xo p.s. not that i haven't started plenty of buffy threads, but i will claim that i've been following what i believe is list culture (observed from reading the archives.) - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:48:32 -0800 From: JBJ Subject: Re: La Charity Rex and others -- When we moved a few years back, I put my box of tapes on the curb in front of the house and put an ad on Craigslist under "FREE STUFF". Within 30 minutes it was gone. I described the contents pretty well, so I can only assume that whoever took them had an urgent need for them. :) JBJ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 08:19:54 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: Persuasion I was very excited about this new adaptation of Persuasion until I saw the first 45-minutes. It was awful. So my daughter and I did a Pride and Prejudice marathon (Colin Firth, of course) instead. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 08:20:05 -0600 From: "Sumiko Keay" Subject: Re: Persuasion Yes. I had high hopes: I had thought that they did a good job casting but the way the changed the story around via the script was terrible. And are we supposed to believe the Capt. Wentworth bought Kellynch for Anne as a wedding present? Because that makes no sense at all. Also, that Wentworth/Anne kiss was shot and directed very oddly. Sumi On Jan 19, 2008 7:19 AM, Jill Brand wrote: > I was very excited about this new adaptation of Persuasion until I saw the > first 45-minutes. It was awful. So my daughter and I did a Pride and > Prejudice marathon (Colin Firth, of course) instead. > > Jill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 12:35:32 -0500 From: lep Subject: the harbinger of the magnetic fields hi feglist, i was going to whine when i saw there's a new magnetic fields out, as no one posted about it, and i felt completely out of touch. but, alas, it turned it just came out like this week or something. i know there's not a raven of fans on here, but did anyone listen to it? xo p.s. i have no idea why i said "raven of fans." it must a phrase writers use, as i can't imagine picking it up from my friends. on a nearly-related-note, i caved and bought "razor" on DVD since netflix was the eternal "Very Long Wait" ("hearts of darkness", as well, eddie, but i'll try to hold out from buying that one.) i was listening to the commentary and the writer of the episode said he really regrets having the hyprid say "she...is the harbinger of death" because now everyone's parroting or just teasing him re: "harbinger this", "harbinger that." just try to stop a snappy kara thrace catch phrase. p.p.s. when BSG was last aired, what night/time was it on (u.s. - scifi network)? i might have to watch it "live" for season 4. - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 18:51:45 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: the harbinger of the magnetic fields - -- lep is rumored to have mumbled on 19. Januar 2008 12:35:32 -0500 regarding the harbinger of the magnetic fields: > i was going to whine when i saw there's a new magnetic fields out, as > no one posted about it, and i felt completely out of touch. but, > alas, it turned it just came out like this week or something. i know > there's not a raven of fans on here, but did anyone listen to it? No.I only recently got "69 Love Songs" and haven't even been able to get through that entire set yet. Not because I don't like it, but because it takes me a long time to absorb new music. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 18:58:37 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: i know you're all dying to know what my favourite movie of 2007 was... - -- lep is rumored to have mumbled on 18. Januar 2008 17:59:05 -0500 regarding i know you're all dying to know what my favourite movie of 2007 was...: > ...and i won't keep you waiting any longer. > > it's really tough to say it's not "no country for old men", but it's not. > > it's "before the devil knows you're dead." > > not much to say about this one (without spoilers), except that i > expected to not care for it all that much - i'm a bit worn out on the > "heist gone wrong" genre. fortunately, i saw it anyway. For the record: I enjoy your blog style posts. Anyway, I hadn't even heard of the latter. IMDb tells me that there's isn't even a release date set for Germany ... but it sounds interesting. For personal blog style content: I'm about to leave for a friend's 40th birthday party and I have been struggling with that all day. Because it's a round one she has basically invited everybody she knows. That means that in addition to the people I meet every year at her birthday there's going to be a ton of people that I either don't know at all or who I haven't seen in ages. And I'm not really comfortable with situations like that. Today it got so bad that I even considered feigning illness, but that's just too lame. So I'll leave ... soonish. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:58:49 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: La Charity On Jan 18, 2008 8:48 PM, JBJ wrote: > Rex and others -- > > When we moved a few years back, I put my box of tapes on the curb in > front of the house and put an ad on Craigslist under "FREE STUFF". > > Within 30 minutes it was gone. > > I described the contents pretty well, so I can only assume that > whoever took them had an urgent need for them. :) > That, then, is probably the ticket. Thank you! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 10:51:34 -0800 From: Rex Subject: D'oh! ITunes question from me: Somehow (that is to say, by trying to do too many things at once) last night I accidentally altered the Artist and Album information on a couple hundred iTunes songs (they all now claim to be tracks from David Byrne, Sounds from True Stories). The tracks include the entirety of the Robyn box and a lot of my recent digitized material, the information for which will be hard (probably not entirely impossible) to recollect. Is there any way to revert the information on those tracks en masse, or am I hosed? Yours always, Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:02:54 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: D'oh! On 1/19/08, Rex wrote: > > ITunes question from me: > Somehow (that is to say, by trying to do too many things at once) last > night > I accidentally altered the Artist and Album information on a couple > hundred > iTunes songs (they all now claim to be tracks from David Byrne, Sounds > from > True Stories). The tracks include the entirety of the Robyn box and a lot > of my recent digitized material, the information for which will be hard > (probably not entirely impossible) to recollect. Is there any way to > revert > the information on those tracks en masse, or am I hosed? I have no expert advice to answer your question...but I'm pretty sure that, out of the box, iTunes is set to ask you something like "are you absofuckinglutely sure you want to edit all these items at once?" You might revert it to that status to prevent future such problems... My guess is: you're hosed, unless you'd immediately beforehand backed up the library or something. You'll probably have to manually change everything back. One idea: do not re-sort - if you know how you had things sorted before, it'll make things easier. Unless, of course, you had it sorted by song length or something non-obvious. My other suggestion is, if anyone asks you how this happened, blame one of your kids ;-) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 13:57:29 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: D'oh! On Jan 19, 2008 1:02 PM, 2fs wrote: > On 1/19/08, Rex wrote: > > > > > > I have no expert advice to answer your question...but I'm pretty sure > that, out of the box, iTunes is set to ask you something like "are you > absofuckinglutely sure you want to edit all these items at once?" You might > revert it to that status to prevent future such problems... > It does indeed, but when it asked that, the only highlighted items I could see on my screen were fine. How the other couple *thousand* items-- it's much worse than I thought-- got highlighted, I will never know. I really should have backed the whole thing up a week or so ago. But I didn't. > One idea: do not re-sort - if you know how you had things sorted before, > it'll make things easier. Unless, of course, you had it sorted by song > length or something non-obvious. > Looking at in "date added" order is going to... well, not save my ass, but feebly assist it. > > > My other suggestion is, if anyone asks you how this happened, blame one of > your kids ;-) > I'm just not that cruel! Plus, to be honest, the 10-year-old is about as computer savvy as me, just in different areas, and we have a sort of mutual-tech-support thing going on... there's no fooling her. - -Rex > > > -- > > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #458 ********************************