From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #450 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, January 11 2008 Volume 16 : Number 450 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Shopgirl [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Re (extracting the) [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Eleventh of September [hssmrg@bath.ac.uk] Re: Re (extracting the) [Jeff Dwarf ] FW: Re (extracting the) ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Shopgirl [lep ] reap ["michael wells" ] [OT] tiny tube amps ["Stewart Russell" ] RE: [OT] tiny tube amps ["michael wells" ] Re: Shopgirl [2fs ] Re: reap [2fs ] Re: [OT] tiny tube amps [2fs ] Re: Shopgirl [lep ] Re: reap [FSThomas ] Re: Gnat commemorative [Nick Winkworth ] Re: reap [Rex ] Re: Shopgirl [Rex ] Re: Shopgirl [2fs ] Re: Shopgirl ["vivien lyon" ] Re: Shopgirl [2fs ] REAP Ken Nelson, 96, country record producer [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: REAP Ken Nelson, 96, country record producer [lep ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 09:47:36 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Shopgirl - --On 6. Januar 2008 16:19:24 -0500 lep wrote: > I didn't know her well, but I exchanged e-mails with her, and have > nothing but kind words about her. I first ran into her on the Elliott > Smith boards and found a fellow Hitchcock fan there. She encouraged > me to join this list; I said I was afraid of you guys - she said you > weren't too scary ;) It would've been a shame if we had scared you away! But why were you afraid of us in the first place? Had you been lurking? Or did you just think that RH fans *must* be scary? I watched "Shopgirl" last night. I liked it. Claire Danes is adorable and there's still a lot of Angela in her, I think - at least in that role. I kind of get why many people hate the movie, though. I'm not sure I buy the "Education of Jeremy" angle myself, but what the heck. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:58:08 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: Re (extracting the) > > It's hard to remember a time when it wasn't just "Nine-Eleven", but it did >> exist. Every great once in a while I hear someone say "nine one one", and >> it already sounds dated. And I don't think it's down to one pundit... it >> was just sort of adopted en masse, maybe through just plain fatigue. > >I remember it being "September 11(th)" for a while, and then it settled >down to "nine-eleven" (written 9/11). Either one works for me. I'm not a >big fan of "nine-one-one" (911). >Now that I think of it, is this confusing to most of the rest of the world, >who would certainly render the date "11/9"? Or is it just something that >they know as an Americanism, and take at face value as a label for a >specifically American experience? Strange thing is that even in countries like here in NZ it's nine-eleven - almost certainly due t the outpouring of US news releases in the days following. Normally September 11th would be eleven-nine here, but I've never heard anyone refer to the WTC attacks as that. And to another comment, yeah, the primaries are interesting so far and - thanks to The West Wing I finally know what's going on. (the sound you hear is that of a can of worms being opened...) It still seems a hell of a rigmarole and hardly what I'd think of as normal in a democracy, but everyone to their own. Some of those candidates strike me as particularly scary. No offence to US voters, but I'd rather a creationist like Huckabee didn't have the purse-strings of education, scientific research, NASA et al in his hands... James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 09:45:52 +0000 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Eleventh of September On Jan 9, 2008 3:19 PM, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: I remember it being "September 11(th)" for a while, and then it settled down to "nine-eleven" (written 9/11). Either one works for me. I'm not a big fan of "nine-one-one" (911). Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 15:30:38 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Now that I think of it, is this confusing to most of the rest of the world, who would certainly render the date "11/9"? Or is it just something that they know as an Americanism, and take at face value as a label for a specifically American experience? - - -Rex * I suspect that most people over here assume that it is the American emergency dialling code - which also doesn't mean much to us, as we use 999 instead. But I could be wrong! - - Mike Godwin PS My mate Henry has written a song about the Santiago coup of 1973 which is called 'Eleventh of September'. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 09:48:39 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Re (extracting the) grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > Some of those candidates > strike me as particularly scary. No offence to US voters, but I'd > rather a creationist like Huckabee didn't have the purse-strings of > education, scientific research, NASA et al in his hands... Shit, I'm not sure I trust a creationist putting together my Whopper (if I ever ate at Burger King). "I'm not tempted to write a song about George W. Bush. I couldn't figure out what sort of song I would write. That's the problem: I don't want to satirize George Bush and his puppeteers, I want to vaporize them." -- Tom Lehrer "The eyes are the groin of the head." -- Dwight Schrute . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:13:09 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: FW: Re (extracting the) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Dwarf Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 12:49 PM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Re: Re (extracting the) grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: >> Some of those candidates >> strike me as particularly scary. No offence to US voters, but I'd >> rather a creationist like Huckabee didn't have the purse-strings of >> education, scientific research, NASA et al in his hands... Jeff came back with: >Shit, I'm not sure I trust a creationist putting together my Whopper (if I ever ate at Burger King). A creationist would be out trying to find some 5000 year old frozen dinosaur meat to slap on that Whopper bun to prove his beliefs, so you'll never get one made by a creationist even if you ate at Burger King. Michael Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:23:54 -0500 From: Maximilian Lang Subject: [none] I had a dream last night that Brian Wilson was teaching me vocal lines for a new song. It was really brilliant and vivid....Then I awoke to my cat bellowing. I was upset with the cat for waking me up from this beautiful dream. Then I realized that I was incorporating the bellowing into the dream and that she was the Brian Wilson vocal parts...sweet irony. Max _________________________________________________________________ Watch Cause Effect, a show about real people making a real difference. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_watchcause ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:58:29 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: Shopgirl Sebastian says: > --On 6. Januar 2008 16:19:24 -0500 lep wrote: > > > I didn't know her well, but I exchanged e-mails with her, and have > > nothing but kind words about her. I first ran into her on the Elliott > > Smith boards and found a fellow Hitchcock fan there. She encouraged > > me to join this list; I said I was afraid of you guys - she said you > > weren't too scary ;) > > It would've been a shame if we had scared you away! But why were you afraid > of us in the first place? Had you been lurking? Or did you just think that > RH fans *must* be scary? well, the short story is that i had been on the announcement list for quite a long time, and i read the archives from time-to-time. i know i read quite a bit of the archives from the time preceeding the 2000 u.s. elections. i really was stunned that people could write these page-long, articulate, intelligent un-mispelled posts, seemingly in the span of less than a day (since people would make such posts multiple times a week.) (i remember describing the list to my father, and he explained how it was probably just like the pynchon list he subscribed to, that it was a bunch of layabout academics.) (okay, do i really have to say "winky face" here?) ("winky face".) i'm a really slow writer, and, plus, i confess, even though there are 1000s of opinions floating in my head, only one of two of them are about politics. so i guess it would be more accurate to say i was "intimidated" rather than "scared" (although i probably generally try not to bother to make those sorts of distinctions (just to save me time that would be otherwise added to the already-way-too-much amount of time that i spend analysing my thoughts and motivations and, okay, i'll stop this sentence before it gets much farther.)) > I watched "Shopgirl" last night. I liked it. Claire Danes is adorable and > there's still a lot of Angela in her, I think - at least in that role. I > kind of get why many people hate the movie, though. I'm not sure I buy the > "Education of Jeremy" angle myself, but what the heck. people hated the movie? i didn't hear about that. that seems a bit odd (not that i didn't hear about it - that people didn't like it.) i agree with you about the jeremy character, but i think i was okay with it in the sense that people generally grow up a bit at some point in their lives, and maybe he just chose to think that he grew up at the same time he actually grew up. someone (who shall remain nameless, unless they wish to be named) told me offlist that they thought a problem with the movie was the use of steve martin's voice for the narration, that his voice is too recognizable. this hadn't occurred to me, and i think it's a really good point. i think the movie has a fair number of flaws, but i feel like it has enough positive aspects that i was able to pretty much ignore the flaws. i think the biggest positive aspect is how it represents how two people can look at a relationship differently, and neither one has to be "the bad guy." sometimes people just hear what they want to hear (i probably said this already, but hopefully your memory's no better than mine.) speaking of angela and MSCL, my family had a belated holiday-ish outing to NYC to see a play yesterday, and the actor who played the gay teacher character (the one that took an interest in rickie's welfare) had a pretty big role. it took me a few minutes to place where i had seen him before. for those interested, the play was called "august". i liked it very much, and the acting was terrific, but i would say it was a little draining - sort of imagine "cat on a hot tin roof" with two or three times as many characters. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:29:40 -0800 From: "michael wells" Subject: reap Edmund Hillary, 88. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080110/ap_on_re_au_an/obit_edmund_hillary ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:19:32 -0500 From: "Stewart Russell" Subject: [OT] tiny tube amps If you had a choice for guitar amps between the Epiphone Valve Junior or the Fender Champion 600, which would you choose? Cheers, Stewart - -- http://scruss.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:53:34 -0800 From: "michael wells" Subject: RE: [OT] tiny tube amps For my money, definitely the latter. Coincidentally I was in our local instrument shop last night, and I played the little Valve. Didn't like it. At all. MW ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:20:38 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Shopgirl On 1/10/08, lep wrote: > > > > It would've been a shame if we had scared you away! But why were you > afraid > > of us in the first place? Had you been lurking? Or did you just think > that > > RH fans *must* be scary? > > well, the short story is that i had been on the announcement list for > quite a long time, and i read the archives from time-to-time. i know > i read quite a bit of the archives from the time preceeding the 2000 > u.s. elections. i really was stunned that people could write these > page-long, articulate, intelligent un-mispelled posts, seemingly in > the span of less than a day (since people would make such posts > multiple times a week.) (i remember describing the list to my father, > and he explained how it was probably just like the pynchon list he > subscribed to, that it was a bunch of layabout academics.) (okay, do > i really have to say "winky face" here?) ("winky face".) i'm a > really slow writer, and, plus, i confess, even though there are 1000s > of opinions floating in my head, only one of two of them are about > politics. so i guess it would be more accurate to say i was > "intimidated" rather than "scared" (although i probably generally try > not to bother to make those sorts of distinctions (just to save me > time that would be otherwise added to the already-way-too-much amount > of time that i spend analysing my thoughts and motivations and, okay, > i'll stop this sentence before it gets much farther.)) if that's a "slow writer," I'd hate to see what you'd write as a "fast writer"! Anyway: well, this list has had its outstanding moments, both very good and very bad (everyone has their choice of the former, and no need to rehash the latter), so I could see how it might intimidate, or annoy. I have been guilty of lengthy, intensely argumentative political posts, so, uh... > > someone (who shall remain nameless, unless they wish to be named) told > me offlist that they thought a problem with the movie was the use of > steve martin's voice for the narration, that his voice is too > recognizable. this hadn't occurred to me, and i think it's a really > good point. But if his *voice* is recognizable, isn't his *image* even more so? I mean, my guess is more people would recognize a picture of Steve Martin as being Steve Martin (or "oh - he's that guy...uh, on SNL, and he said "excu-uu-uu-se me!" and...") than would recognize his voice as being his voice. And of course, this problem would apply to just about any famous actor, except those whose voices either aren't particularly distinctive or who change their voices for different roles. (I have no idea really what Philip Seymour Hoffman's actual voice sounds like...except I know he doesn't sound like Truman Capote...) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:23:29 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: reap On 1/10/08, michael wells wrote: > > Edmund Hillary, 88. > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080110/ap_on_re_au_an/obit_edmund_hillary > You know why I read that post? Because it was there. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:24:11 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: [OT] tiny tube amps On 1/10/08, Stewart Russell wrote: > > If you had a choice for guitar amps between the Epiphone Valve Junior > or the Fender Champion 600, which would you choose? Depends - how many cupholders does each one have? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:19:47 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: Shopgirl 2fs says: > if that's a "slow writer," I'd hate to see what you'd write as a "fast > writer"! that's only because i finally lowered my standards to allow myself to post here. "winky face." well, what i mean is that i decided to post despite knowing i'd (1) make spelling and grammar errors, as well my requisite "rearrange the sentence, drop a word or two, change 1/2 of the verb tenses", and (2) ramble on about mundane things, probably of nterest to only me. i figured i'd know when to quit when people started saying "OFFLIST!!!!" > > someone (who shall remain nameless, unless they wish to be named) told > > me offlist that they thought a problem with the movie was the use of > > steve martin's voice for the narration, that his voice is too > > recognizable. this hadn't occurred to me, and i think it's a really > > good point. > > > But if his *voice* is recognizable, isn't his *image* even more so? I mean, > my guess is more people would recognize a picture of Steve Martin as being > Steve Martin (or "oh - he's that guy...uh, on SNL, and he said > "excu-uu-uu-se me!" and...") than would recognize his voice as being his > voice. only speaking for myself and not the person who pointed it out to me, i would say that one of the problems with martin's narrating is that the story is presented in sort of a neutral way. if anything, it's more focused on the female character. it's not (or at least i didn't take it to be) presented from the point of view of ray the logician. so why is he narrating? > > And of course, this problem would apply to just about any famous actor, > except those whose voices either aren't particularly distinctive or who > change their voices for different roles. (I have no idea really what Philip > Seymour Hoffman's actual voice sounds like...except I know he doesn't sound > like Truman Capote...) hopefully, i'll get to "movie talk" before classes start again, but one recent slightly-odd experience was that i rented a documentary on stanley kubrick which was narrated by tom cruise and wasn't at all annoyed by that fact. tom cruise's voice turns out, at least to me, to be non-distinct, and thus not annoying. i might even make a general statement that when using a narrating, it's good to choose one with a non-distinct voice unless less there is a point that needs to by using someone who has a distinct voice (which, off the top of my head, would be good for something like "the shawshank redemption" where you are always aware that it's freeman's character ("red"?) doing the narration, and that seems fine. i have no idea why, but i just thought: "i bet eddie* hates "the shawshank redemption."" * i.e. edward allen, if i may. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:41:02 -0500 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: reap 2fs wrote: > On 1/10/08, michael wells wrote: >> Edmund Hillary, 88. I would have had him in the Dead Pool if I thought he were still alive... - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:44:00 -0800 From: Nick Winkworth Subject: Re: Gnat commemorative Crap. These days, months can go by before I get an urge to dip into my ever accumulating folder of digests and check in on the world of Feg. I don't know why I chose this evening to take a look, but this was the last thing I expected - what tragically sad news. As I read through the posts of the last few days I was moved to see so many of us old-timers de-lurking to express their sadness. Those early days of the list were seminal ones for many of us and Gnat was an essential part of our experience. The connections we made back then were more important than we might admit - I think that's why so many of us have never *quite* left the list. In particular, I found The Great Quail's post especially thoughtful and moving. As I read it, I kept thinking "well said Allen". Thank you. Yes, I did meet her once, and loved her instantly. Funny and smart - my two favorite characteristics in a human being - and like many of you, I've had my very own tinfoil Thoth to watch over me ever since. That it is still here today, in pride of place on the top of the speakers on my desk, surely says more than words. It might surprise some people that the loss of someone who most of us knew only through occasional writing could generate a reaction like this, but Fegs are a rare breed who take other like-minded souls quickly to heart. When Fegs first started to meet each other in person, way back in 1996, everyone commented that "Fegs are the nicest people!". Natalie was most certainly one of those "nicest people" - one of "us" - and even though we may not seen her for years - or perhaps never met in person at all - we will all feel the loss of knowing that she is no longer there. Carrie, I love your idea of a book of Feg memories and of course you can have hi-rez versions of any of the Fegfotos. Just ask. As for the rest of you old-timers (you know who you are), I'm glad to know you are still around. I hope we may yet meet again. ~Nick > Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 14:21:36 -0800 (GMT-08:00) > From: Carrie Galbraith > Subject: Gnat commemorative > > Fegs - > All this outpouring of memorials and images and posts, it's wonderful and sad and beautiful. Gnat was so much a part of our tight-knit, long-standing community. > > I've spoken with Viv about this and she is in agreement. I am going to make a hand-bound book for the memorial with our posts and images and some of her posts. It will be given to her parents after the service. > > In order for this to happen - I must make tomorrow - the 9th, the deadline for anything being sent (if Unca Nick is still on the list - perhaps he can send me hi-rez jpgs of some of the fegfotos online) as I must get this created and off to Viv for the service. If you DON'T want your post to be included - let me know. If you have some images you want included - from fegfests or shows or just gatherings with her, send 'em to me. Anything else, send it as well. > > I've done quite a few of these commemorative books (mostly for weddings or graduations) so I can make this book also available for anyone who requests - not sure how big it'll be yet but it is being offered as a limited edition to the list at your request. Details to be worked out but I should think it'll be easy enough to create the edition and post to anyone of you (even in the Southern Hemisphere!). > > Obviously Gnat touched our lives - it's important to mark that. > Take my eyes, I've used them, > - - c ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 19:52:02 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: reap On Jan 10, 2008 5:23 PM, 2fs wrote: > On 1/10/08, michael wells wrote: > > > > Edmund Hillary, 88. > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080110/ap_on_re_au_an/obit_edmund_hillary > > > > You know why I read that post? > > Because it was there. > Jeff FTW lol!!!:!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:02:04 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Shopgirl On Jan 10, 2008 6:19 PM, lep wrote: > > i have no idea why, but i just thought: "i bet eddie* hates "the > shawshank redemption."" That's a sucker's bet if I ever heard one. I've actually never seen that film and tend to get it confused with "The Green Mile", which, oddly, I did see. Tom Cruise's voice strikes me as strident and annoying, but look where it comes from. The one that always distracts me is when they have Michael Dorn do nature documentaries. I always expect him to say something like, "The wildebeest has struggled valiantly, and its spirit will surely rest enshrined in the halls of Stohvo-Kor" (Klingon spelling approximate). - -Rex - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 22:12:48 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Shopgirl On 1/10/08, Rex wrote: > > On Jan 10, 2008 6:19 PM, lep wrote: > > Tom Cruise's voice strikes me as strident and annoying, but look where it > comes from. The one that always distracts me is when they have Michael > Dorn > do nature documentaries. I always expect him to say something like, "The > wildebeest has struggled valiantly, and its spirit will surely rest > enshrined in the halls of Stohvo-Kor" (Klingon spelling approximate). I think most nature documentaries would be improved by Captain Beefheart narrating. Especially if he also writes the script. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:57:37 -0800 From: "vivien lyon" Subject: Re: Shopgirl Hear hear. On 1/10/08, 2fs wrote: > > > > I think most nature documentaries would be improved by Captain Beefheart > narrating. > > Especially if he also writes the script. > > -- > > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:44:25 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Shopgirl On 1/10/08, vivien lyon wrote: > > Hear hear. > > On 1/10/08, 2fs wrote: > > > > > > > > I think most nature documentaries would be improved by Captain Beefheart > > narrating. > > > > Especially if he also writes the script. > > Although Beefheart's so obviously gobsmacked in awe by the natural world that I'm not sure even he'd have much to say. I think he and Adrian Belew should get together and write children's books about animals and nature. Uh, and soundtracks for same. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com - ---------------- Now playing: The Minus 5 - Cemetery Row ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 01:21:58 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: REAP Ken Nelson, 96, country record producer _http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/stories/2008/01/10/OBIT_NELSON.html_ (http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/stories/2008/01/10/OBIT_NELSON.html) what does REAP stand for anyway ? **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 01:37:05 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: REAP Ken Nelson, 96, country record producer says: > _http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/stories/2008/01/10/OBIT_NELSON.html_ > (http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/stories/2008/01/10/OBIT_NELSON.html) > > what does REAP stand for anyway ? i think it doesn't stand for anything - i always thought it's a verb (i.e. what the grim reaper does for a living, and for also for a hobby.) xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 01:58:40 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: REAP Ken Nelson, 96, country record producer OH - It's what you sow ? or sew ? so ? or is it what you rip ye shall sew ? In a message dated 1/11/2008 1:39:36 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, softboygirl@gmail.com writes: i think it doesn't stand for anything - i always thought it's a verb (i.e. what the grim reaper does for a living, and for also for a hobby.) xo **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 04:28:18 -0500 From: lep Subject: Where Are They Now: Knut i thought i'd check up on knut. everyone's a matchmaker: http://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyleMolt/idUSL1065762320080110 also a song, presumably about how super-cute knut is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFR0xA60GGI (there's a few more where that came from.) is one of the children's voices supposed to like be what little knut would say, if he could speak, or says in his head if he secretly can speak and just chooses not to, or is the song just sung by children? (that would be a question for sebastian, or, at the least, someone way more well-rounded than i am.) i wonder. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #450 ********************************