From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #446 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, January 7 2008 Volume 16 : Number 446 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Natalie Jane [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Natalie Jane [Capuchin ] Re: Natalie Jane ["vivien lyon" ] Re: Natalie Jane [Michael Sweeney ] Re: Natalie Jane ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Natalie Jane [2fs ] Re: Natalie Jane [Tom Clark ] Re: Natalie Jane [hssmrg@bath.ac.uk] Re: Natalie Jane [great white shark ] Re: Natalie Jane [Christopher Gross ] RE: Natalie Jane ["michael wells" ] Re: Natalie Jane ["vivien lyon" ] Re: Natalie Jane ["m swedene" ] Re: Natalie Jane [Carrie Galbraith ] RE: Natalie Jane [Maximilian Lang ] Re: Natalie Jane [djini@voicenet.com] Re: Natalie Jane [lep ] Book recommendation [djini@voicenet.com] Re: Natalie Jane [Dolph Chaney ] Re: Natalie Jane [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] music talk [lep ] Re: Natalie Jane ["Miles Goosens" ] Re: Natalie Jane [michaeljbachman@comcast.net] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 02:39:41 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Natalie Jane - -- vivien lyon is rumored to have mumbled on 5. Januar 2008 17:19:25 -0800 regarding Natalie Jane: > I'm writing with some very sad news. Natalie Jane Jacobs passed away on > Thursday January 3rd. She was at home in Portland and had been very ill. > She was found by friends, apparently asleep in her bed. WTF? How can that even happen? I never met her and have exchanged only a handful of mails with her, but still that's very sad news indeed. I feel for all of you who actually knew her better ... - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 20:01:59 -0600 (CST) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Natalie Jane On Sun, 6 Jan 2008, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > WTF? How can that even happen? I've been asking myself the same thing all fucking day. This afternoon, I called everyone in my phone book that actually knew her (and a few that never met her, but I thought should know). I've been in a kind of shock since I got the phone call punctuated with spontaneous sobbing. I apologize to everyone at the supermarket. My little tinfoil Galadriel just skyrocketted in value. She will be missed more than I think she ever imagined, but hopefully she had some idea. Jeme. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 18:15:51 -0800 From: "vivien lyon" Subject: Re: Natalie Jane She had been sick with a flu of some kind, but had gone to the hospital and was sent home with anti-nausea medicine. It is still unknown what exactly was the cause of death. The medical examiners haven't said yet. Whatever the cause, it's unbelievably tragic. She was so happy to be back in Portland and we were all thrilled to have her back. On Jan 5, 2008 5:39 PM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > -- vivien lyon is rumored to have mumbled on 5. > Januar 2008 17:19:25 -0800 regarding Natalie Jane: > > > I'm writing with some very sad news. Natalie Jane Jacobs passed away on > > Thursday January 3rd. She was at home in Portland and had been very ill. > > She was found by friends, apparently asleep in her bed. > > WTF? How can that even happen? I never met her and have exchanged only a > handful of mails with her, but still that's very sad news indeed. I feel > for all of you who actually knew her better ... > -- > Sebastian Hagedorn > Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany > http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ > "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 03:01:27 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Re: Natalie Jane ...So sad to hear. Thanks for the beuatiful thoughts, Viv. Michael Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 22:09:55 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Natalie Jane Very sad indeed. Is Natalie Jane the first of us to pass? Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 21:46:14 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Natalie Jane On 1/5/08, vivien lyon wrote: > > Hello, everyone- > > I'm writing with some very sad news. Natalie Jane Jacobs passed away on > Thursday January 3rd. She was at home in Portland and had been very ill. > She > was found by friends, apparently asleep in her bed. I never met her in person, never knew her well - but she was an integral part of this list, part of its soul. I'm stunned, and saddened. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 23:15:42 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Natalie Jane I first met Natalie at Quail's "fegfest" almost ten years ago. Since then we spent a few bizarre evenings together at various Robyn shows in Seattle, Portland and San Francisco. The one I remember most is the Elixers & Remedies taping at The Crocodile where she, Viv and I waited outside after the show and sang "Satellite of Love" in the cold Seattle night. Her tinfoil Thoths have always been prominently displayed on a shelf in my office - I'll polish them up on Monday. FUCK YOU NATALIE JANE! I'll never forget you. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 10:38:50 +0000 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: Natalie Jane > Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 17:19:25 -0800 > From: "vivien lyon" > Subject: Natalie Jane > Hello, everyone- > I'm writing with some very sad news. Natalie Jane Jacobs passed away on > Thursday January 3rd. She was at home in Portland and had been very ill. She > was found by friends, apparently asleep in her bed. > I met Natalie through this list. We had a great rapport via email and met in > person to see Andy Partridge do an in-store performance in Chicago. She gave > him a tin-foil thoth and kissed his cheek. > She was an amazing person, as anyone who ever met her would say. Funny, > insightful, compassionate, intelligent, and creative. She was a great writer > and a great friend, very giving and forgiving. Her dream was to be a > midwife, and she was only months away from completing her course of study, > having done an preceptorship in Austin, Texas and moved back to Portland for > her final classes. > We spent Thanksgiving together and Natalie was the happiest I've ever seen > her. I'm still in shock- she was one of the most unique, lovely people I've > ever known and I can't believe she's gone. Many of you met in her in person, > and it seemed the right thing to do to let this list know of her passing. > Email me for details concerning the memorial service. * Really sad to hear this, Viv. Condolences from across the water. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 22:37:34 +1030 From: great white shark Subject: Re: Natalie Jane This is exceedingly sad, I never met Nat in person but we had some fun wring silly stuff years ago in what some might call the lists golden era, Gnat was a big part of that and I felt she was a friend even though she was half a world away. The thought of tinfoil thoths instantly brings her to mind and gives me a warm fuzzy feeling , which I am sure was her essentially nice personality somehow communicating over the ether. the good often seem to die young and I am more than sure that this was the case with Nat . A great loss. der commander > > I'm writing with some very sad news. Natalie Jane Jacobs passed > away on > Thursday January 3rd. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:12:10 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Natalie Jane This is terrible news. And she was only about 35, wasn't she? I only met Natalie once, at the big Feg party in 1997, and exchanged emails with her a few times, but she always seemed like a very nice and interesting person. My deepest sympathies to those who were close to her. Viv, please let us know if they determine the cause of death. I guess we don't have a real need to know, but it would feel a little better than leaving the whole thing a mystery. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 11:31:00 -0800 From: "michael wells" Subject: RE: Natalie Jane > I'm writing with some very sad news. Natalie Jane Jacobs passed away on Thursday January 3rd. Good Heavens. Apart from a few offlist emails, I only knew gnat from her posts...which I always found thoughtful and infused with a wry humor. My condolences to those for whom she was a special person, which I am sure is not an insignificant number. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 10:41:43 -0800 From: "vivien lyon" Subject: Re: Natalie Jane I will let everyone know that, as well as the details on the memorial service. If anyone has anything they'd like to be read aloud at the service, or even just want to send a condolence card to her parents, email me. I've been researching and I think I may have a clue what happened, but I have to get my theory confirmed by the medical examiner. Aside from the sheer misery of losing a close friend so young (she was 35), not knowing what happened has been the worst part. On Jan 6, 2008 10:12 AM, Christopher Gross wrote: > This is terrible news. And she was only about 35, wasn't she? I only met > Natalie once, at the big Feg party in 1997, and exchanged emails with her > a few times, but she always seemed like a very nice and interesting > person. My deepest sympathies to those who were close to her. > > Viv, please let us know if they determine the cause of death. I guess we > don't have a real need to know, but it would feel a little better than > leaving the whole thing a mystery. > > > --Chris > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. > chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 13:53:12 -0500 From: "m swedene" Subject: Re: Natalie Jane I would like to send her parents a card. I think it would be nice for them to know how special their daughter was to others outside her immediate area. Mike On 1/6/08, vivien lyon wrote: > I will let everyone know that, as well as the details on the memorial > service. If anyone has anything they'd like to be read aloud at the service, > or even just want to send a condolence card to her parents, email me. > > I've been researching and I think I may have a clue what happened, but I > have to get my theory confirmed by the medical examiner. Aside from the > sheer misery of losing a close friend so young (she was 35), not knowing > what happened has been the worst part. > > On Jan 6, 2008 10:12 AM, Christopher Gross wrote: > > > This is terrible news. And she was only about 35, wasn't she? I only met > > Natalie once, at the big Feg party in 1997, and exchanged emails with her > > a few times, but she always seemed like a very nice and interesting > > person. My deepest sympathies to those who were close to her. > > > > Viv, please let us know if they determine the cause of death. I guess we > > don't have a real need to know, but it would feel a little better than > > leaving the whole thing a mystery. > > > > > > --Chris > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. > > chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 11:44:26 -0800 From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: Natalie Jane I too would like to send her family my condolences. I put my tinfoil Thoth in a special place, for her journey to be eased. I am deeply saddened today. - - c On Jan 6, 2008, at 10:53 AM, m swedene wrote: > I would like to send her parents a card. > I think it would be nice for them to know how special their daughter > was to others outside her immediate area. > > Mike > > > > On 1/6/08, vivien lyon wrote: >> I will let everyone know that, as well as the details on the memorial >> service. If anyone has anything they'd like to be read aloud at >> the service, >> or even just want to send a condolence card to her parents, email me. >> >> I've been researching and I think I may have a clue what happened, >> but I >> have to get my theory confirmed by the medical examiner. Aside >> from the >> sheer misery of losing a close friend so young (she was 35), not >> knowing >> what happened has been the worst part. >> >> On Jan 6, 2008 10:12 AM, Christopher Gross wrote: >> >>> This is terrible news. And she was only about 35, wasn't she? I >>> only met >>> Natalie once, at the big Feg party in 1997, and exchanged emails >>> with her >>> a few times, but she always seemed like a very nice and interesting >>> person. My deepest sympathies to those who were close to her. >>> >>> Viv, please let us know if they determine the cause of death. I >>> guess we >>> don't have a real need to know, but it would feel a little better >>> than >>> leaving the whole thing a mystery. >>> >>> >>> --Chris >>> >>> >>> ____________________________________________________________________ >>> __ >>> Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a >>> dog. >>> chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 15:00:01 -0500 From: Maximilian Lang Subject: RE: Natalie Jane I was away from home this weekend, when I got back and read the news I was pretty floored. She hadn't been on list for a while and recently I had wondered about her. What a tragic thing to lose someone so young, I too would like to send a card with my condolences. Max > CC: vivien.lyon@gmail.com> From: meketone@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Natalie Jane> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 11:44:26 -0800> To: fegmaniax@smoe.org> > I too would like to send her family my condolences.> I put my tinfoil Thoth in a special place, for her journey to be eased.> I am deeply saddened today.> - c> > On Jan 6, 2008, at 10:53 AM, m swedene wrote:> > > I would like to send her parents a card.> > I think it would be nice for them to know how special their daughter> > was to others outside her immediate area.> >> > Mike> >> >> >> > On 1/6/08, vivien lyon wrote:> >> I will let everyone know that, as well as the details on the memorial> >> service. If anyone has anything they'd like to be read aloud at > >> the service,> >> or even just want to send a condolence card to her parents, email me.> >>> >> I've been researching and I think I may have a clue what happened, > >> but I> >> have to get my theory confirmed by the medical examiner. Aside > >> from the> >> sheer misery of losing a close friend so young (she was 35), not > >> knowing> >> what happened has been the worst part.> >>> >> On Jan 6, 2008 10:12 AM, Christopher Gross wrote:> >>> >>> This is terrible news. And she was only about 35, wasn't she? I > >>> only met> >>> Natalie once, at the big Feg party in 1997, and exchanged emails > >>> with her> >>> a few times, but she always seemed like a very nice and interesting> >>> person. My deepest sympathies to those who were close to her.> >>>> >>> Viv, please let us know if they determine the cause of death. I > >>> guess we> >>> don't have a real need to know, but it would feel a little better > >>> than> >>> leaving the whole thing a mystery.> >>>> >>>> >>> --Chris> >>>> >>>> >>> ____________________________________________________________________ > >>> __> >>> Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a > >>> dog.> >>> chrisg@gwu.edu _________________________________________________________________ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_012008 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 10:46:47 -0500 (EST) From: djini@voicenet.com Subject: Re: Natalie Jane I'm so sorry to hear this. I never met Natalie in person but I read her posts with interest, and I whenever listen to the Decemberists, at some point she crosses my mind. My condolences to those of you who knew her. Jeanne 'I think I'll go down in Portland music scene legend as "the girl who dances at Decemberists shows."' - Natalie Jane, Fri, 28 May 2004 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 17:19:25 -0800 > From: "vivien lyon" > Subject: Natalie Jane > > Hello, everyone- > > I'm writing with some very sad news. Natalie Jane Jacobs passed away on > Thursday January 3rd. She was at home in Portland and had been very ill. She > was found by friends, apparently asleep in her bed. > > I met Natalie through this list. We had a great rapport via email and met in > person to see Andy Partridge do an in-store performance in Chicago. She gave > him a tin-foil thoth and kissed his cheek. > > She was an amazing person, as anyone who ever met her would say. Funny, > insightful, compassionate, intelligent, and creative. She was a great writer > and a great friend, very giving and forgiving. Her dream was to be a > midwife, and she was only months away from completing her course of study, > having done an preceptorship in Austin, Texas and moved back to Portland for > her final classes. > > We spent Thanksgiving together and Natalie was the happiest I've ever seen > her. I'm still in shock- she was one of the most unique, lovely people I've > ever known and I can't believe she's gone. Many of you met in her in person, > and it seemed the right thing to do to let this list know of her passing. > > Email me for details concerning the memorial service. > > ------------------------------ > > End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #445 > ******************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 16:19:24 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: Natalie Jane I'm really sorry to hear this news. My thoughts are with Viv, her family, and those close to her. I didn't know her well, but I exchanged e-mails with her, and have nothing but kind words about her. I first ran into her on the Elliott Smith boards and found a fellow Hitchcock fan there. She encouraged me to join this list; I said I was afraid of you guys - she said you weren't too scary ;) xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 16:35:35 -0500 (EST) From: djini@voicenet.com Subject: Book recommendation Happy New Year fegs one and all! I just read the Raw Shark Texts by Steven Hall, and it struck me as something fegs might like - starts off intriguingly, becomes deeply weird, involves marine life... Anyway, parts were labored in a way that reminded me of Jasper Fforde's Thursday Next books, but some of the concepts are very interesting. cheers, Jeanne ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 16:20:15 -0600 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: Re: Natalie Jane On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 17:19 -0800, vivien lyon wrote: > Hello, everyone- > > I'm writing with some very sad news. Natalie Jane Jacobs passed away on > Thursday January 3rd. I am stunned. I hadn't talked with her in a while, but I'd met her in person a few times. I first visited her in Ann Arbor (something like 10 years ago now), and she guided me through my first sushi dinner. We hung out at her place. We watched her Captain Beefheart and XTC videos. We played some music together. She dared me to play "Sacrificial Bonfire" from memory, and I feebly complied. The full tale with fotos is here -- I saw her again at a show in Chicago a few years later, and we corresponded infrequently. Just a few days ago, I came across the cassette demo she sent me of her band Little Triggers. She was an excellent writer and had a stupendous radio show a few years back. Her energy was infectious. She was whip-smart, and she was very passionate about midwifery. She taught an entire generation of Fegs that placenta is a delicacy in many parts of the world. Then she sent us pictures. The world has just lost a bit of its tinfoily sheen. This was too soon. Fuck you, Natalie Jane. - -- Dolph ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2008 11:54:05 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: Natalie Jane >Hello, everyone- > >I'm writing with some very sad news. Natalie Jane Jacobs passed away on >Thursday January 3rd. She was at home in Portland and had been very >ill. She >was found by friends, apparently asleep in her bed. Very sad news indeed. I only knew her through the list, but I'll miss her. I don't know if anyone is organising a condolences card/book/whatever, but if they are, please add my name to it. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 18:47:05 -0500 From: lep Subject: music talk hi feglist, along with a compilation set by that robyn weirdo, i was happy to receive the new p.j. harvey album for christmas. my initial thoughts on "white chalk" are that it feels to me to be perhaps what "vespertine" might have been to people who that album wasn't lost on. in a way, i don't consider myself a p.j. harvey fan, since i don't care much for her early records. but i still say i fell for her, it was when "stories from the city (sea?)" came out, in part, because of the album, in part, because i saw her live (she's a true rock 'n' roll gal.) "white chalk" leaves me a bit breathless, the way it is when you walk into a church, and even though no one else is there, you're quiet, and if you said something, it would be in a hushed voice. maybe i'm feeling overly dramatic these days, but this album just makes me shut up and be quiet, like it's a sliver of god. the album is very different from "stories from the city(sea?)". it has the feeling that she's tired and long past putting up a front, even the front of "expression". the album has a lot of piano, like she just sat down there and couldn't bother with the energy needed to pick up a guitar. maybe things like this just sound tired, but they always sound like the truth to me, like it's late, late in the evening, and people finally say what they really mean. xo p.s when i say "you", what i mean is "i". - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 17:57:08 -0600 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: Natalie Jane I'm not sure I've ever cried before about the passing of someone I had never met face to face. But I cried like a baby last night when the girlfriend and I got home to this news, and I'm crying right now. She was one of my favorite people ever. Fuck, I can't believe I have to say "was." Fuck fuck fuck. I love you, Natalie Jane. I can't believe I'll never get to give you a big hug, buy you a drink, and sit together for hours making fun of Wilco and REM, or gushing over David Thewlis, or anything. I just can't believe it. devastated, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 10:55:34 +0000 From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: Re: Natalie Jane - -------------- Original message -------------- From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz > >Hello, everyone- > > > >I'm writing with some very sad news. Natalie Jane Jacobs passed away on > >Thursday January 3rd. She was at home in Portland and had been very > >ill. She > >was found by friends, apparently asleep in her bed. > > Very sad news indeed. I only knew her through the list, but I'll miss > her. I don't know if anyone is organising a condolences > card/book/whatever, but if they are, please add my name to it. Yes, please add my name as well to the condolence card. To pass so young is shocking to us all and so sad. Michael B. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #446 ********************************