From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #442 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, January 1 2008 Volume 16 : Number 442 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: It's not my name (not yet) [lep ] Top 15ish [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Top 15ish [2fs ] Happy New Year! [Michael Sweeney ] When Problems Arise [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Top 15ish [Steve Schiavo ] In the Fight Over Piracy, a Rare Stand for [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] When Problems Arise [Jeff Dwarf ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:06:22 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: It's not my name (not yet) 2fs says: > Ha. > > Here's a picture of Robyn < > http://www.abbymcdonald.com/poptext%20images/robyn.jpg> - that is, Swedish > pop star Robyn. > > I think it would be amusing for our Robyn to pose in exactly the same > fashion, with similar outfit and enormous shades. > > (I think it was the blonde/grey hair conversion that made me think that...) is this the robyn that mr. schiavo's link referred to? i was going to ask if anyone knew who that robyn is, because it didn't sound like our hero. happy 2008 to all (or all those who choose to celebrate "time"), a belated one to our james in NZ. xo p.s. re: "reason" magazine: i first heard of this years ago as my friend marty's father subscribes to it. of course, i found the title amusing. some day, i'll start the competition (well, like there's not enough competition for the libertarians) to be called "lack of reason" or "not so reasonable" magazine, or somesuch. - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:23:58 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Top 15ish 1. Grinderman/Grinderman 2. Modest Mouse/We Were Dead Before the Ship Even Sank 3. The New Pornographers/Challengers 4. Robert Plant & Alison Krauss/Raising Sand 5. Flight of the Conchords/The Distant Future 6. Radiohead/In Rainbows 7. LCD Soundsystem/Sound of Silver 8. Bloc Party/A Weekend in the City 9. Dean & Britta/Back Numbers 10. Patton Oswalt/Werewolves & Lollipops 11. Kristin Hersh/Learn to Sing Like a Star 12. Nick Lowe/At My Age 13. Richard Thompson/Sweet Warrior 14. The Shins/Wincing the Night Away 15. Ted Leo & The Pharmacists/Living With the Living Christmas booty to be placed at some point after even I can no longer even pretend to care: Dinosaur Jr./Beyond Thurston Moore/Trees Outside the Academy Spoon/Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga Stars/In Our Bedroom After the War Linda Thompson/Versatile Heart Wire/Read & Burn 03 "I'm not tempted to write a song about George W. Bush. I couldn't figure out what sort of song I would write. That's the problem: I don't want to satirize George Bush and his puppeteers, I want to vaporize them." -- Tom Lehrer "The eyes are the groin of the head." -- Dwight Schrute . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 22:13:35 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Top 15ish On 12/31/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > 1. Grinderman/Grinderman Fun fact: this album's infamous track "No Pussy Blues" was originally going to be titled "No Cuntry for Old Men" until Cormac McCarthy said, "uh, Nick? No." - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 06:25:39 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Happy New Year! Happy 2008 to all the Fegs from here in the US Central time zone! (And Happy Incipient Regime Change to all who anxiously await it! I've got some time on my hands this week -- think I'll go down to Obama HQ and help out with some last-minute phone calls to Iowans: "No, ma'am, he's _not_ Islamic...Yes, ma'am, it _is_ an unusual name...Of course, ma'am, I'm _sure_ he was born in the United States (sigh)...") Michael "Not even a regular barber, much less a demon one..." Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_122007 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 03:19:15 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: When Problems Arise http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/12/31/national/a134942S85.DTL "I'm not tempted to write a song about George W. Bush. I couldn't figure out what sort of song I would write. That's the problem: I don't want to satirize George Bush and his puppeteers, I want to vaporize them." -- Tom Lehrer "The eyes are the groin of the head." -- Dwight Schrute . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 10:32:35 -0600 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: Top 15ish On Dec 31, 2007, at 10:13 PM, 2fs wrote: > On 12/31/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: >> >> 1. Grinderman/Grinderman > > Fun fact: this album's infamous track "No Pussy Blues" was > originally going > to be titled "No Cuntry for Old Men" until Cormac McCarthy said, > "uh, Nick? > No." Why would they change it? Is Cave pals with McCarthy? - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 14:58:30 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: In the Fight Over Piracy, a Rare Stand for _http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/31/us/31bar.html?_r=1&oref=slogin_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/31/us/31bar.html?_r=1&oref=slogin) Sidebar In the Fight Over Piracy, a Rare Stand for By ADAM LIPTAK Published: December 31, 2007 The record industry got a surprise when it subpoenaed the University of Oregon in September, asking it to identify 17 students who had made available songs from Journey, the Cars, Dire Straits, Sting and Madonna on a file-sharing network. The surprise was not that 20-year-olds listen to Sting. It was that the university fought back. Represented by the statebs attorney general, Hardy Myers, the university filed a blistering motion to quash the subpoena, accusing the industry of misleading the judge, violating student privacy laws and engaging in questionable investigative practices. Cary Sherman, the president of the Recording Industry Association of America, said the industry had seen ba lot of crazy stuffb filed in response to its lawsuits and subpoenas. bBut coming from the office of an attorney general of a state?b Mr. Sherman asked, incredulous. bWe found it really surprising and disappointing.b No one should shed tears for people who steal music and have to face the consequences. But it is nonetheless heartening to see a university decline to become the industrybs police officer and instead to defend the privacy of its students. The recording industry may not be selling as much music these days, but it has built a pretty impressive and innovative litigation subsidiary. In the past four years, record companies have sued tens of thousands of people for violating the copyright laws by sharing music on the Internet. The people it sues tend to settle, paying the industry a few thousand dollars rather than risking a potentially ruinous judgment by fighting in court. bPeople get pushed into settlements,b said Fred von Lohmann, a lawyer with the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a civil liberties group. bThe Oregon attorney general is showing what a real fight among equals would look like.b In his filings, Mr. Myers claimed to be looking for a middle ground. bCertainly it is appropriate for victims of copyright infringement to lawfully pursue statutory remedies,b Mr. Myers wrote last month. bHowever, that pursuit must be tempered by basic notions of privacy and due process.b bThe larger issue,b Mr. Myers said, bis whether plaintiffsb investigative and litigation strategies are appropriate.b Mr. Myers questioned the tactics of MediaSentry, an investigative company hired by the recording industry. He said the company seemed to use data mining techniques to obtain bprivate, confidential information unrelated to copyright infringement.b He added that it may have violated an Oregon criminal law requiring investigators to be licensed. A spokeswoman for MediaSentry said it collected only information that users of peer-to-peer networks make available to anyone who cared to look. She had no comment on the licensing law. The record companies, in an apoplectic response in court, accused the university of having ba political agenda.b They said that it was protecting people who had broken the law and that it was not entitled to raise privacy and due process arguments on behalf of its students. bHundreds of universities and dozens of commercial Internet service providers have responded to the exact same subpoenas,b the record companiesb lawyers wrote. James Gibson, a law professor at the University of Richmond, said Mr. Myersb s arguments had been raised in other cases and had met with little success. Still, Professor Gibson said, bitbs significant that a public university and its state apparatus is standing up to the R.I.A.A.b Mr. Sherman, of the recording industry association, predicted that Mr. Myersb s motion would fail and said the industrybs litigation strategy had worked well. bThe litigation program, as controversial as it is often written up to be, has been very successful in transforming public awareness,b Mr. Sherman said. b Everybody used to think this was legal. Now everybody knows itbs illegal.b Indeed, the program seems to be expanding, and universities are being asked to play an even bigger role. In February, the association started asking universities to identify students suspected of file sharing and to pass along b prelitigation lettersb to them. The association says it has provided some 4,000 such letters to more than 150 colleges and universities. The letters offer the students what they call bargain settlements of about $3,000 if they act fast, by punching in a credit card number at www.p2plawsuits.com. bThe breducedb settlement amount, in other words, represents the record companiesb savings from cutting out the middleman b our justice system,b the Electronic Frontier Foundation said in a recent report. The universities are under no legal obligation to pass the letters along, but most do. Those that donbt typically receive subpoenas like the one issued to the University of Oregon. At least one other public university in Oregon has cooperated with the industry. In 2004, Portland State responded to a record industry subpoena by blandly and efficiently providing the names, addresses, phone numbers and goofy e-mail addresses of two roommates. The university said it could not say which studentbs computer was involved, so it fingered both of them. bWe definitely felt betrayed,b said Karen Conway, the mother of one of the roommates. bThey readily turned over private information without notifying us. They placed responding to a legal subpoena far above a studentbs right to privacy.b Though her daughter Delaney was blameless, the record companiesb lawyers demanded $4,500. It was, Ms. Conway said, bbasically extortion,b and the family was forced to hire a lawyer. The case against Delaney Conway was eventually dropped. Her roommate settled. Mr. Sherman said the University of Oregon should disclose what it knew and let the legal system sort out the rest. bItbs no different than us subpoenaing Verizon,b he said. But an institution of higher education has different aspirations and obligations than an Internet service provider, which is why Portland Statebs actions are so unsettling. The University of Oregonbs efforts may be doomed, but there is something bracing about them nonetheless. All the university is saying, after all, is that the record industry must make its case in court before the university will point a finger at one of its own. **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2008 17:23:33 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: When Problems Arise http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/12/31/national/a134942S85.DTL "I'm not tempted to write a song about George W. Bush. I couldn't figure out what sort of song I would write. That's the problem: I don't want to satirize George Bush and his puppeteers, I want to vaporize them." -- Tom Lehrer "The eyes are the groin of the head." -- Dwight Schrute . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #442 ********************************