From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #430 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, December 16 2007 Volume 16 : Number 430 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: daring to be . . .BOWIE or NEIL YOUNG or BOB DYLAN [2fs ] boston globe best of 07 lists [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: Another "Best of 2007" list [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: Another "Best of 2007" list [Rex ] Re: Another "Best of 2007" list [Jeff Dwarf ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 13:02:56 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: daring to be . . .BOWIE or NEIL YOUNG or BOB DYLAN On 12/15/07, HwyCDRrev@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 12/14/2007 4:38:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com writes: > > Fiddle-de-dee. I'm too lazy to check right now, but I know I have several > 75+ CDs from the late '80s. > > > this problem didn't last long - > i think the problem existed on both > a Smiths (Louder Than Bombs 3/87) > and a Cure CD (Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me - 5/87 . . > with one song removed in order to fit !) And of course, Prince's _1999_ was stripped of "D.M.S.R." in its original CD incarnation. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:56:58 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Re: How Can They Expect to be Taken Seriously? Rex wrote: >Many people wish to like solo Westerberg, but few actually can. I'mno sure why, exacty, but Miles summed it up pretty well... somewherein the archive... search "Miles/Westerberg/indictment" and it oughttashow up.< One thing that has always gotten me about BOTH Paul W.s (Westerberg and Weller) is that their definitely distinctive voices from their 'Mats/Jam days seem (to my ears, anyway) all but unrecognizable in much of their solo work. Ciggies/booze? Radically different keys/pitches? Dunno...But, some 30, 40 years on you can always tell Zimmy's, Macca's, Neil's, Bowie's, Lou's, Cale's, Declan's Robyn's, voices (etc.)...but the post-punk Pauls? Not so much... Does anyone else get that...or has my mileage varied wildly? Michael "Wait -- are the Jam in the RNRHOF yet? If not, WTF is it good for? (I know, I know: We already know the answer to that one)" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_122007 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:29:49 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: How Can They Expect to be Taken Seriously? In a message dated 12/15/2007 3:11:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, m_l_sweeney@hotmail.com writes: Does anyone else get that...or has my mileage varied wildly? hmmm --- i know i follow the careers of various Beatles, Stones, Who, Robyn, and Declan - but i don't really relate to solo Clash, Jam , Talking Heads, etc. i don't think i related to them in the same way - i enjoy their earlier work as nostalgia now , but it doesn't touch me in the same way **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 12:20:22 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Another "Best of 2007" list Another "Best of 2007" list. Not a bad year, so I didn't limit myself to ten. Top 12 (in approximate order, best down): 1 Robert Plant & Alison Krauss - Raising sand (whodathunk it?) 2 SJD - Songs from a dictaphone 3 Editors - An end has a start 4 Trans Am - Sex Change 5 Caribou - Andorra 6 Goldenhorse - Reporter 7 Goldrush - The heart is the place 8 Bjvrk - Volta 9 The 1990's - Cookies 10 Yoko Ono - Yes, I'm a witch 11 Liam Finn - I'll be lightning 12 Mono - You are there Next 12 (in alphabetical order): * Babyshambles - Shotter's Nation * Bright Eyes - Cassadaga * The Cakekitchen - Stories for late at night (not quite as good as last year's "Everything's driving you crazy...", but still a worthy effort) * The Clientele - God save the Clientele * PJ Harvey - White chalk * Kaiser Chiefs - Yours truly, angry mob * Kate Nash - Made of bricks * Phoenix Foundation - Happy ending * Mark Ronson - Version * The Tom Bosley Experience - Who's your daddy? (even contains a song about cheese!) * Trillion - Silent invisible (might not be officially released until 2008...) * Soulsavers - it's not how far you fall, it's how you land 12 honourable mentions (in alphabetical order): * The Broken Heartbreakers - The Broken Heartbreakers * Dub Pistols - Speakers & tweeters (I'm not a big fan of rap, but I like the reappropriation of late 70s classics here) * The Grand Prix - Terraplane twilight (alt country retro in extremis) * Maps - We can create * Midnight Juggernauts - Dystopia * New Pornographers - Challengers * The Rakes - Ten new messages * Robert Scott - Tascam hits * Scribe - Notebook * Stars - In our bedroom after the war * Underworld - Oblivion with bells * The White Stripes - Icky Thump More comments: * If all the tracks on The National's "Boxer" had been as good as the first track... * "I'm not there" (soundtrack) - many of the songs are far too faithful to the original, and some were distinctly mehh, but I found something in Yo La Tengo's "Fourth time around" and Mason Jennings' "Lonesome death of Hattie Carroll" that I'd never felt for the originals. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:17:57 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: How Can They Expect to be Taken Seriously? On 12/15/07, Michael Sweeney wrote: > > Rex wrote: > > > >Many people wish to like solo Westerberg, but few actually can. I'm > no sure why, exacty, but Miles summed it up pretty well... somewhere > in the archive... search "Miles/Westerberg/indictment" and it oughtta > show up.< > > > One thing that has always gotten me about BOTH Paul W.s (Westerberg and > Weller) is that their definitely distinctive voices from their 'Mats/Jam > days seem (to my ears, anyway) all but unrecognizable in much of their solo > work. Ciggies/booze? Radically different keys/pitches? Dunno...But, some > 30, 40 years on you can always tell Zimmy's, Macca's, Neil's, Bowie's, > Lou's, Cale's, Declan's Robyn's, voices (etc.)...but the post-punk Pauls? > Not so much... Weller, yes; Westerberg I can usually peg, still, although it is bit different and I don't hear much of his solo material. Now the difference between Box Tops Alex Chilton and Big Star Alex Chilton, that's a tough one. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:33:21 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Another "Best of 2007" list On 12/15/07, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > Another "Best of 2007" list. Not a bad year, so I didn't limit myself to > ten. > > 9 The 1990's - Cookies This is confusing...since there's another band called The 1900s, who also released an album this year. (I've heard one or two tracks & they're pretty good.) Oh well - at least it's not another damned animal band. Got sent links to 2 mp3s by a band called "The Grizzly Owls" - I thought it was a joke at first, that name. Banned in '08: naming your band after animals in any way. (Especially wolves.) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 02:42:19 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: boston globe best of 07 lists _http://www.boston.com/ae/music/packages/cds2007/_ (http://www.boston.com/ae/music/packages/cds2007/) **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 22:17:28 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: Another "Best of 2007" list >On 12/15/07, >grutness@slingshot.co.nz ><grutness@slingshot.co.nz> wrote: > >Another "Best of 2007" list. Not a bad year, so I didn't limit myself to ten. > >9 The 1990's - Cookies > > >This is confusing...since there's another band called The 1900s, who >also released an album this year. (I've heard one or two tracks & >they're pretty good.) And if you must name your band after a decade, don't put a damn apostrophe in there! James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:54:48 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Another "Best of 2007" list On 12/15/07, 2fs wrote: > > Banned in '08: naming your band after animals in any way. (Especially > wolves.) Wolves, Bears, Owls. You include that in your band name, I'm not damn listening to you. And if that doesn't stop you, go ahead and be the Velocity Wolves or whatever. I'm sure the best-of-2008 lists will reward you handsomely. My friend is actually in a band named Owl Owl. I actually feel like Owl Owl Owl would be better, because in some fonts, and given the equally prevalent band name trend of extraneous! punctuation;#, it would look sort of like Ow! Ow! Ow!. Grizzly Owls is kinda brilliant, though. If it's on purpose. - -Rex "fish names are still okay, right?" Broome, guitar and vocal, fish-named band #53 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 11:55:23 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Another "Best of 2007" list 2fs wrote: > Banned in '08: naming your band after animals in any way. > (Especially wolves.) What if it's in another language? For example, The Seagulls is unacceptable, but in Spanish it would be okay. "I'm not tempted to write a song about George W. Bush. I couldn't figure out what sort of song I would write. That's the problem: I don't want to satirize George Bush and his puppeteers, I want to vaporize them." -- Tom Lehrer "The eyes are the groin of the head." -- Dwight Schrute . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #430 ********************************