From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #428 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, December 14 2007 Volume 16 : Number 428 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: metal machine music - a review [Rex ] Warning: Zero Hitchock Content [kevin ] Re: Warning: Zero Hitchock Content [Rex ] 2 robyn articles i just found on RH.com [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] How Can They Expect to be Taken Seriously? [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: that's odd... [2fs ] Re: How Can They Expect to be Taken Seriously? [kevin ] Re: daring to be... [2fs ] Re: How Can They Expect to be Taken Seriously? [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: How Can They Expect to be Taken Seriously? [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: I knew you then, but do I know you now [Rex ] Re: How Can They Expect to be Taken Seriously? [Rex Subject: Re: metal machine music - a review On Dec 12, 2007 10:10 PM, wrote: > > _http://www.creemmagazine.com/_site/BeatGoesOn/LouReed/MetalMachineMusic001.ht > ml_ > ( > http://www.creemmagazine.com/_site/BeatGoesOn/LouReed/MetalMachineMusic001.html > ) > The image of MMM on 8-track has prompted the first stirrings of Holiday Cheer to be kindled in my soul this year. Can it be topped? I doubt it. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:59:08 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: kevin Subject: Warning: Zero Hitchock Content Just a note to thank those individuals who helped steer me toward The Fall recently. Have acquired Hex Enduction Hour. Tons o' fun. Reminiscent of the first PiL album, which is high praise in my book, and has a whiff of early (John Foxx) Ultravox too (which is where I have to agree with Lauren about Ha! Ha! Ha! - indispensable). Speaking of Ultra-foxx, does anybody know if the Live Retro 7" ever made it to CD? np The Name Of This Band Is Talking Heads. Disc 1. I can't stop playing Love-->Building On Fire, over and over and over... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:03:01 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Warning: Zero Hitchock Content On Dec 13, 2007 9:59 AM, kevin wrote: > Just a note to thank those individuals who helped steer me toward The Fall > recently. Have acquired Hex Enduction Hour. Tons o' fun. One of their finest... erm, "Hour"s. > > np The Name Of This Band Is Talking Heads. Disc 1. I can't stop playing > Love-->Building On Fire, over and over and over... So very great. I was really let down when the studio version came out on "Sand in the Vaseline". Ghastly mellow saxophones indeed! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:11:54 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: 2 robyn articles i just found on RH.com _http://www.clevescene.com/2007-11-07/music/mad-professor/_ (http://www.clevescene.com/2007-11-07/music/mad-professor/) _http://cookingwithrockstars.com/artist/robyn-hitchcock-part-1_ (http://cookingwithrockstars.com/artist/robyn-hitchcock-part-1) **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 12:39:15 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: How Can They Expect to be Taken Seriously? Okay, Leonard Cohen's overdue, and I guess Madonna belongs, but John Melloncamp, The Ventures and The Dave Clark 5? http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/news/47632-madonna-leonard-cohen-inducted-into-rock-hall "I'm not tempted to write a song about George W. Bush. I couldn't figure out what sort of song I would write. That's the problem: I don't want to satirize George Bush and his puppeteers, I want to vaporize them." -- Tom Lehrer "The eyes are the groin of the head." -- Dwight Schrute . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:57:32 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: daring to be . . .BOWIE or NEIL YOUNG or BOB DYLAN >yes it was - one of the original 15 from 2003 (2 more CDs since) >5 albums were remixed i believe - and this was one of them >it sounds AMAZING! what are you waiting for, the mono version ? > >however - the most impressive ( to me) was the remix/remaster of >ANOTHER SIDE . . .it sounds like you are in the studio with Bob > . .it is so clear, you can hear him breathe, you can heat him adjust his >harmonica holder, i think you can even hear him change his mind . .. > >In a message dated 12/12/2007 8:14:57 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >spottedeagleray@gmail.com writes: > >James (STILL waiting for a remastered "Blonde on Blonde") > > >The 2-disc reissue isn't remastered? Was I just too happy to see the jacket >look right to notice? > >- -Rex > Mmmm. have to hunt that down. I didn't know about the 2003 re-releases. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:13:04 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Warning: Zero Hitchock Content On 12/13/07, Rex wrote: > > On Dec 13, 2007 9:59 AM, kevin wrote: > > > > np The Name Of This Band Is Talking Heads. Disc 1. I can't stop > playing > > Love-->Building On Fire, over and over and over... > > > So very great. I was really let down when the studio version came out on > "Sand in the Vaseline". Ghastly mellow saxophones indeed! Me too. Fortunately, since TNOTBITH has been out, it's superfluous - that live version is fantastic. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:14:49 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: that's odd... On 12/6/07, 2fs wrote: > > > > Which reminds me - one of the rarest items in the Wire catalog is their > Christmas album. > 1 2 Xmas U > In a seasontastic miracle worthy of taking place on 34th Street, this song has actually come into RL existence: < https://pantherfile.uwm.edu/jenor/public/12XMASU.mp3> - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:17:46 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: How Can They Expect to be Taken Seriously? >Subject: How Can They Expect to be Taken Seriously? > >Okay, Leonard Cohen's overdue, and I guess Madonna belongs, but John >Melloncamp, The Ventures and The Dave Clark 5? > >http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/news/47632-madonna-leonard-cohen-inducted-into-rock-hall Not to be stepping on any toes, and I'm not necessarily even expressing my own opinions here, but I'd venture that (1) the Hall O' Fame is basically a Muzik Biz venue that doesn't "expect to be taken seriously" by anybody, really, and (B) if you're strictly talking rock-and-roll, the Ventures and the DC5 actually belong there a lot more than some effete foreign artiste, anyway. Your neighborhood devil's advocate / KS np Terry Riley: The Harp Of New Albion. It's all about the overtones. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:19:19 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: How Can They Expect to be Taken Seriously? On 12/13/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > Okay, Leonard Cohen's overdue, and I guess Madonna belongs, but John > Melloncamp, The Ventures and The Dave Clark 5? > > > http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/news/47632-madonna-leonard-cohen-inducted-into-rock-hall I am going to assume, w/o checking the link, that the recording artists you mention have been inducted into the Rolling Rock Hall of Fame ("33"). The only one I really question is the DC5 - I mean, they had 2-3 hit singles in a derivative style, then disappeared - huh? Mellencamp, though I'm not a fan, has managed to recover from a hideous early career to put out a fairly consistent set of folkish countryish Americana-ish meaty-potatoey-Replacement-y rock'n'roll records. And the Ventures? The most consistent instrumental surf-rock band - and instrumental surf-rock is, in fact, one of the first genres in rock to be built primarily on sound and texture - and that idea has been highly influential. Sounds a stretch, but...w/o the Ventures, no MBV. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:47:10 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: How Can They Expect to be Taken Seriously? On Dec 13, 2007 2:19 PM, 2fs wrote: > Mellencamp, though I'm not a fan, has managed to recover from a hideous > early career to put out a fairly consistent set of folkish countryish > Americana-ish meaty-potatoey-Replacement-y rock'n'roll records. It was really only the middle bit that was good... > And the > Ventures? The most consistent instrumental surf-rock band - and > instrumental > surf-rock is, in fact, one of the first genres in rock to be built > primarily > on sound and texture - and that idea has been highly influential. Sounds a > stretch, but...w/o the Ventures, no MBV. Certainly no Television. No B-52's. Probably no post-punk-guitar-sound "as we know it" at all. Still don't care? How about-- no Franz Ferdinand! We can all agree that's worth panicking about, right? The top 10 lists this year are mighty puzzling indeed, Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:42:24 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: that's odd... On Dec 13, 2007 2:14 PM, 2fs wrote: > > In a seasontastic miracle worthy of taking place on 34th Street, this song > has actually come into RL existence: < > https://pantherfile.uwm.edu/jenor/public/12XMASU.mp3> Nice. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 13:21:22 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: daring to be... On Dec 12, 2007 11:49 AM, kevin wrote: > >>and, another "oh": this is kind of funny - all the subcategories of > "nothing": > >>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Nothing > > > >Now that looks like fun. Reminds me of my boy Donald Barthelme's little > meditation called, coincidentally, "Nothing" (originally in his collection > Unspeakable Practices, Unnatural Acts) which ends "Nothing is not a nail" - > a phrase I've never been able to get out of my mind since. > > Correction - DB's "Nothing" first appeared in Guilty Pleasures and > subsequently in the expanded postumous version, The Teachings Of Don B. Was that one of the ones with Chris Stamey or without? - -- ..Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 15:23:00 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: How Can They Expect to be Taken Seriously? Rex wrote: > On Dec 13, 2007 2:19 PM, 2fs wrote: > > Mellencamp, though I'm not a fan, has managed to recover from a > > hideous early career to put out a fairly consistent set of > > folkish countryish Americana-ish meaty-potatoey-Replacement-y > > rock'n'roll records. > > It was really only the middle bit that was good... And even that good was only good, never astonishing. More "best Goo Goo Dolls albums ever" than Replacement-y, really. > > And the > > Ventures? The most consistent instrumental surf-rock band - and > > instrumental surf-rock is, in fact, one of the first genres in > > rock to be built primarily on sound and texture - and that idea > > has been highly influential. Sounds a > > stretch, but...w/o the Ventures, no MBV. > > Certainly no Television. No B-52's. Probably no > post-punk-guitar-sound "as we know it" at all. Still don't care? > How about-- no Franz Ferdinand! We > can all agree that's worth panicking about, right? For some reason I mixed them up in my head with The Trashmen. "I'm not tempted to write a song about George W. Bush. I couldn't figure out what sort of song I would write. That's the problem: I don't want to satirize George Bush and his puppeteers, I want to vaporize them." -- Tom Lehrer "The eyes are the groin of the head." -- Dwight Schrute . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:00:35 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: How Can They Expect to be Taken Seriously? On Dec 13, 2007 3:23 PM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > Rex wrote: > > On Dec 13, 2007 2:19 PM, 2fs wrote: > > > Mellencamp, though I'm not a fan, has managed to recover from a > > > hideous early career to put out a fairly consistent set of > > > folkish countryish Americana-ish meaty-potatoey-Replacement-y > > > rock'n'roll records. > > > > It was really only the middle bit that was good... > > And even that good was only good, never astonishing. More "best Goo > Goo Dolls albums ever" than Replacement-y, really. > That's being really harsh on Mellencamp... there's plenty of room on the ladder underneath the 'Mats for decent rock and roll before you slip the 60 or 70 rungs down to "Goo Goo Dolls at their best". I'm still only modestly embarrassed to stick up for middle-period Mellencamp (the part in the Venn diagram that contains both Cougar and Mellencamp, really). "Scarecrow" is solid, "Lonesome Jubilee" is musically wonderful if a bit overly earnest in the lyrical department, and "Big Daddy" is only a little less musically exciting, and benefits from some mumbly lyrical ambiguity (which sorta sank his later career, but had its charms when the guy was first discovering it). Plus you get your Lisa Germano there. I really don't have time for much other than those three records, but I'm still holding on to them twenty years later. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 18:05:30 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: How Can They Expect to be Taken Seriously? Rex wrote: > On Dec 13, 2007 3:23 PM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > And even that good was only good, never astonishing. More "best > > Goo Goo Dolls albums ever" than Replacement-y, really. > > > That's being really harsh on Mellencamp... there's plenty of room > on the > ladder underneath the 'Mats for decent rock and roll before you > slip the 60 > or 70 rungs down to "Goo Goo Dolls at their best". Oh absolutely; the Goo Goos just came to mind because they are the ultimate 'Mats wannabes. JCM has that same sort of blandness to my ears, though he is much better at it. > I'm still only modestly embarrassed to stick up for middle-period > Mellencamp (the part in the Venn diagram that contains both > Cougar and Mellencamp, really). "Scarecrow" is solid, "Lonesome > Jubilee" is musically wonderful if a bit overly earnest in the > lyrical department, and "Big Daddy" is only a little less > musically exciting, and benefits from some mumbly lyrical > ambiguity (which sorta sank his later career, but had its > charms when the guy was first discovering it). Plus you get your > Lisa Germano there. I really don't have time for much other than > those three records, but I'm still holding on to them twenty years > later. Germano doesn't do much for me; maybe it's the terminal suburban boy in me, but I much prefer "violin-playing" to "fiddle-playing," and Germano is a bit too "fiddly." "I'm not tempted to write a song about George W. Bush. I couldn't figure out what sort of song I would write. That's the problem: I don't want to satirize George Bush and his puppeteers, I want to vaporize them." -- Tom Lehrer "The eyes are the groin of the head." -- Dwight Schrute . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 20:24:46 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: How Can They Expect to be Taken Seriously? On 12/13/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > Rex wrote: > > > That's being really harsh on Mellencamp... there's plenty of room > > on the > > ladder underneath the 'Mats for decent rock and roll before you > > slip the 60 > > or 70 rungs down to "Goo Goo Dolls at their best". > > Oh absolutely; the Goo Goos just came to mind because they are the > ultimate 'Mats wannabes. As I recall, they started that way. Then they became even more embarrassing - - I seem to recall that they were the poor man's REO Speedcookie Power-Ballad mongers. And REO's power ballads were already awfully poverty-stricken. But that's just because I'm under the gun so I take it on the run. > > > Germano doesn't do much for me; maybe it's the terminal suburban boy > in me, but I much prefer "violin-playing" to "fiddle-playing," and > Germano is a bit too "fiddly." On her own stuff? I don't hear it that way. (W/Mellencamp, of course, she was a hired hand...a hand hired to play "fiddle") - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:26:23 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: How Can They Expect to be Taken Seriously? In a message dated 12/13/2007 4:01:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, munki1972@yahoo.com writes: Okay, Leonard Cohen's overdue, and I guess Madonna belongs, but John Melloncamp, The Ventures and The Dave Clark 5? http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/page/news/47632-madonna-leonard-cohen-inducted-i nto-rock-hall i'd say : cohen, the ventures, & maybe the dave clark 5 are ok . . . but NO WAY Madonna or Mellencamp - neither of them R.O.C.K. in the U.S.A. - we already have Blondie and Springsteen anyway **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:36:40 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: daring to be . . .BOWIE or NEIL YOUNG or BOB DYLAN In a message dated 12/13/2007 4:57:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, grutness@slingshot.co.nz writes: Mmmm. have to hunt that down. I didn't know about the 2003 re-releases. 1st 15 DYLAN nice digipaks too - extra photos/booklet etc (SACD too if that matters) not sure if they are still available that way = they were in a box at one time as well Freewheelin Another BIABH H61 Blonde (2CD) JWH Nashville Planet Blood Desire Street Legal Slow Train Infidels oh mercy "love & theft" then : 1st album & times changin' were reissued some sound great - (Another side and Blonde esp.) some of the later ones didn't benefit as much **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 02:39:24 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: Warning: Zero Hitchock Content i believe Byrne hired a corny professional arranger (i think as an arty joke) to arrange the single - once i knew that, i enjoyed the single In a message dated 12/13/2007 5:17:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com writes: > np The Name Of This Band Is Talking Heads. Disc 1. I can't stop > playing > > Love-->Building On Fire, over and over and over... > > > So very great. I was really let down when the studio version came out on > "Sand in the Vaseline". Ghastly mellow saxophones indeed! Me too. Fortunately, since TNOTBITH has been out, it's superfluous - that live version is fantastic. **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:55:53 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: I knew you then, but do I know you now I don't listen to the Kinks a lot these days. That makes up for a 12-year period in which they made up 80% of my music diet. Anyway, for some reason, I decided that we should listen to To the Bone while decorating the Christmas tree (and Hanukkah was less than a day in the grave). There's a stretch on the CD where they do a number of songs from The Kinks Are the Village Green Preservation Society in a row. It's not that I had forgotten how good those songs are, I'd forgotten just how much I love them, especially Do You Remember Walter? I think that the Kinks have more fans now than they had when they were making great music, so I'm still touched, tickled, moved, etc. when I see mention of this album in the "desert island must" category (even Kevin Barnes named it as the first album he'd have to replace if all his records were destroyed - but I bet he says that to all the girls). So put it on your Christmas list if you don't have it, yet. Jill, still starstruck ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:47:40 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: How Can They Expect to be Taken Seriously? 2fs wrote: > On 12/13/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > Germano doesn't do much for me; maybe it's the terminal suburban > > boy in me, but I much prefer "violin-playing" to "fiddle- > > playing," and Germano is a bit too "fiddly." > > On her own stuff? I don't hear it that way. (W/Mellencamp, of > course, she was a hired hand...a hand hired to play "fiddle") Right, I meant her playing with Mellencamp is too fiddly for my tastes. Her own stuff doesn't hit me much either, but I've not heard that much of it, but what I've heard isn't overly fiddly. "I'm not tempted to write a song about George W. Bush. I couldn't figure out what sort of song I would write. That's the problem: I don't want to satirize George Bush and his puppeteers, I want to vaporize them." -- Tom Lehrer "The eyes are the groin of the head." -- Dwight Schrute . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:04:39 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: daring to be . . .BOWIE or NEIL YOUNG or BOB DYLAN >some sound great - (Another side and Blonde esp.) >some of the later ones didn't benefit as much Have to agree; I picked up the remastered BIABH not too long ago and the current iteration has so much more presence it makes all the other Bob cds sound sick. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:57:15 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Warning: Zero Hitchock Content On Dec 13, 2007 11:39 PM, wrote: > i believe Byrne hired a corny professional arranger (i think as an arty > joke) > to arrange the single - once i knew that, i enjoyed the single > I kinda do, too, now... as Jeffrey said, it's superfluous to that incredible live version that is readily available, so it might as well be something different. There's also a 1975 version from the CBS Demo Session. It is neither horny-corny like the "Sand" version, nor mighty-mighty like the "Name". Sounds like there might be some harmonica on there, and lotsa vibrato on the guitar. It hath its charms. While we're at it, the "Name" version of "Drugs" just fucking buries the album version. And "Houses in Motion" comes damned close to doing the same, which is quite an achievement. But I guess this was a Heads thing... of all the "Speaking in Tongues" tracks that also show up on "Stop Making Sense", only the original version of "Swamp" holds a candle to the live version. I had the misfortune of hearing "Tongues" *after* having heard "Sense" (and "Remain in Light) a couple million times, and it just sounded so sterile compared to the records before and after. I've come to love it since, though (and always liked the songs that didn't get revisited on "Sense"). - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:08:01 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: I knew you then, but do I know you now On Dec 14, 2007 4:55 AM, Jill Brand wrote: > I don't listen to the Kinks a lot these days. That makes up for a 12-year > period in which they made up 80% of my music diet. Anyway, for some > reason, I decided that we should listen to To the Bone while decorating > the Christmas tree (and Hanukkah was less than a day in the grave). Hannukah was a bear this year. My December went/is going like this: 12/4 Wife's Birthday / Beginning of Hannukah (extend for 8 days); 12/12 stepdaughter's giant "CA Mission Project" due; 12/13 two kids' Christmas programs at school; 12/14-12/16 various parties for stepdaughter's birthday incl. sleepover at our place for 10 or so 4th grade girls; 12/19 play a gig in Glendale as part of two separate bands; 12/20 youngest daughter's birthday and party; 12/22 flight and drive back to WV; 12/25 Christmas Part 1; 12/26 Christmas Part 2 as my brother's family arrives, more gifts, actual Christmas dinner; 12/28 wedding party for me and the wife in WV; 12/31 obvious; 1/1 fly back to LA. There's more, but that the general shape of it... > > There's a stretch on the CD where they do a number of songs from The Kinks > Are the Village Green Preservation Society in a row. It's not that I had > forgotten how good those songs are, I'd forgotten just how much I love > them, especially Do You Remember Walter? I think that the Kinks have more > fans now than they had when they were making great music, so I'm still > touched, tickled, moved, etc. when I see mention of this album in the > "desert island must" category I listen to it way too much and thus sometimes forget how great many of the *other* Kinks records are. It's one of those things which, once I found it, has never gone out of rotation. Sorta like "Remain in Light". A definite Desert Island pick for me, even though (or because?) I've listened to it to death and back. It helps that the wife is a big fan of prime-era Kinks. (She hates the new Ray disc more than I do , though.) - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:15:34 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: How Can They Expect to be Taken Seriously? On Dec 13, 2007 6:05 PM, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > > Oh absolutely; the Goo Goos just came to mind because they are the > ultimate 'Mats wannabes. JCM has that same sort of blandness to my > ears, though he is much better at it. Better at the blandness, or better in a real sense, which entails being less bland? > > > Germano doesn't do much for me; maybe it's the terminal suburban boy > in me, but I much prefer "violin-playing" to "fiddle-playing," and > Germano is a bit too "fiddly." I'm not a huge fan, but I do like her, and I find her intriguing as a rare artist who converted crossed over from the mainstream to acclaim in the indie world. Some sidepeople can do that, I guess, but it's rare, and Germano seems to have thought of it before most folks... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:18:25 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: kevin Subject: Hours of fun for the whole family I was steered to this by the fellas at noreasoncomics.com and just had to share: http://prestopnik.com/emo_haiku/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:20:57 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: How Can They Expect to be Taken Seriously? On Dec 13, 2007 6:24 PM, 2fs wrote: > > > Oh absolutely; the Goo Goos just came to mind because they are the > > ultimate 'Mats wannabes. > > > As I recall, they started that way. Then they became even more > embarrassing > - I seem to recall that they were the poor man's REO Speedcookie > Power-Ballad mongers. And REO's power ballads were already awfully > poverty-stricken. > Well, it's a toss-up as to which is the Mortalest sin: being the 'Mats, who mildly sold out but made good sellout records for what it's worth; being the Goo Goo Dolls, who started of as crappy 'Mats wanna-be's and ended up as REO Speedwagon, which wasn't a real stretch, or Soul Asylum, who started off as actual contenders for 'Mats-level greatness only to descend to a level of schlock which easily rivals the Goo Goos. I give them the Ultimate Finger out of the three, because the GGD's were at least, in fact, kind of keeping it real by refining themselves as a slicker version of the suck-machine they already were. I bet way more than half of the people who bought that Goo Goo Dolls best-of have never even heard of the Replacements. - -Rex ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #428 ********************************