From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #420 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, December 6 2007 Volume 16 : Number 420 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: that's odd... [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Reap ["Stewart Russell" ] Re: that's odd... [kevin ] Re: Guaranteed No Hitchcock Content [Rex ] Re: Guaranteed No Hitchcock Content [kevin ] Re: quote of the day [kevin ] Re: Guaranteed No Hitchcock Content [2fs ] Re: Guaranteed No Hitchcock Content [lep ] Making the Holidays bearable since, like, a few years ago [Rex ] Please to make a goddam list (and check it twice) ["Stacked Crooked" ] Lehrer on 45 [David Witzany ] Re: Guaranteed No Hitchcock Content [craigie* ] Re: Lehrer on 45 [craigie* ] Re: Lehrer on 45 ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: that's odd... [Rex ] Re: Please to make a goddam list (and check it twice) [Rex ] Re: Please to make a goddam list (and check it twice) [Rex Subject: Re: that's odd... - -- lep is rumored to have mumbled on 5. Dezember 2007 14:35:25 -0500 regarding Re: that's odd...: > 2fs says: >> (Also: I can't be the only one who can't see the word "Reuters" without >> thinking of the Wire song, can I?) > > here, too. > > i'm terrified that this means i might not be british. Or European, even. I think I knew "Reuters" as soon as I could read a newspaper. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 16:14:18 -0500 From: "Stewart Russell" Subject: Reap Norval Morrisseau, 76 - -- http://scruss.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 13:39:25 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: that's odd... >>> (Also: I can't be the only one who can't see the word "Reuters" without >>> thinking of the Wire song, can I?) >> >> here, too. >> >> i'm terrified that this means i might not be british. > >Or European, even. I think the first time I came across it was in the novel "The Mouse That Roared," which was a long ways back and about as British as they come. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 13:40:50 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Guaranteed No Hitchcock Content On Dec 5, 2007 12:45 PM, Jason Brown wrote: > > > that guy Kevin O'Neil who did "Nemesis the Warlock"*, > > Kevin O'Neill is still around. I whole heartedly recomend his work > with Alan Moore on The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen books, which > in spite of the ohorrendous film they spawned are really fantastic. > I am actually pretty interested in that, having read in recent years all of the original Holmes stories and "20,000 Leagues". And I do remember Moore's "Miracleman" as something really extraordinary. Never read the Neil Gaiman stuff (after my time) but I'm assuming my original run of the American "Miracleman" series is worth a fair penny these days. "Lost Girls" sounded a bit beyond the pale for me, although the later Miracleman stories and the idea of "League" do point rather naturally in that direction. There were some cool indie comics in those days, and I do know that some of those writers and artists are still active (Clowes, etc.)... did "Tales of the Beanworld" ever get finished? That shit was teh awesome. Yeah, I guess the idea that the youth of today really absorb that much un-Americanized manga is still a little odd to me. Not a bad thing, but I never really expected it to go over that big without some kind of Westernization. Interesting, and kind of beyond my ken. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 13:43:34 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: Guaranteed No Hitchcock Content >as that series developed, a lot of >it revolved around Nemesis's son, who was named, feggily enough, Thoth. As opposed to faygeleh? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 13:49:16 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: quote of the day >"Magnetism is one of the Six Fundamental Forces of the Universe, with >the other five being Gravity, Duct Tape, Whining, Remote Control, and >The Force That Pulls Dogs Toward The Groins Of Strangers." And if you think that's funny, here's a look at a little volume published back in the 80s somewhere called Science Made Stupid: http://sms.mike.neir.org/sms.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 15:56:42 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Guaranteed No Hitchcock Content On 12/5/07, Rex wrote: > > > Westernization. Interesting, and kind of beyond my ken. > Your ken? Oh my ken, oh my ken, oh my ken, oh my ken Oh my ken, oh your ken, oh his ken, oh her ken, It's everybody's ken, everybody's ken, everybody's ken, everybody's ken! - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 17:20:15 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: Guaranteed No Hitchcock Content 2fs says: > Your ken? > > Oh my ken, oh my ken, oh my ken, oh my ken > Oh my ken, oh your ken, oh his ken, oh her ken, > It's everybody's ken, everybody's ken, everybody's ken, everybody's ken! how sweet. jeff 2fs is trying to lure ken o. back with song. as ever, lauren - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 16:47:34 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Making the Holidays bearable since, like, a few years ago http://www.avclub.com/content/feature/cheap_toy_round_up_2007 Also, between actually naming comic book artists on feg today and perusing the AVClub's "Doctor Who Primer", this must certainly be My Geekiest Day in quite some time. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 04:01:02 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Re: that's odd... Rex wrote >On Dec 3, 2007 2:55 PM, 2fs wrote: >>>> (Also: I can't be the only one who can't see the word "Reuters" without>> thinking of the Wire song, can I?) > >Nope. That song is almost certainly the first place I encountered the word. Not for me...brief journalism major around 1980 that I was, it'll always be part of a triptych -- AP, UPI, and Reuters -- to me... (Also, semi-strangely, Wire is one of the positively-thought-of and influential bands of that period (Sonic Youth is another) that never really drifted onto my radar...only know a few of their songs (put it this way, I know more of the songs by REPUTATION and reading about them than I've actually heard). But here's a bit of bizarre, semi-oblique Wire-connected trivia: Jim DeRogatis, the fairly-well-respected rock critic for the Chicago Sun-Times (plus the co-host of the syndicated radio rock talk show, "Sound Opinions" and author of many books, including one about Lester Bangs and one about psychedelic rock through the years (he often has nice things to say about Robyn)), is also a drummer...and when he was younger he played in a Wire cover band that actually opened for Wire on a semi-latter-day tour -- so the young acolytes could play the expected back catalog, leaving the actual band to concentrate on whatever newer stuff they wanted to play (or so I've heard the story).) Michael "Even more strangely, I believe I'm familiar with more songs by Wire Train than by Wire (I know, I know...)" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:55:53 -0800 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: Please to make a goddam list (and check it twice) neighbour is looking for obscure xmas songs. please begin submission process...now! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 00:27:07 -0500 (EST) From: kevin Subject: Re: Please to make a goddam list (and check it twice) >neighbour is looking for obscure xmas songs. please begin submission >process...now! Lionel Hampton, "Boogie Woogie Santa Claus" Yorgi Yorgeson, "I Yust Go Nuts At Christmas" Canned Heat & the Chipmunks, "Christmas Boogie" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 22:05:21 -0800 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Please to make a goddam list (and check it twice) On Dec 5, 2007, at 8:55 PM, Stacked Crooked wrote: > neighbour is looking for obscure xmas songs. please begin submission > process...now! http://somafm.com/xmasinfrisko/played http://somafm.com/christmas/played - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 00:15:26 -0600 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: Guaranteed No Hitchcock Content On Dec 5, 2007, at 12:45 PM, kevin wrote: > The kids these days seem to regard the manga style as the way > comics ought to look, as opposed to old farts who were raised on DC > styles from the fifties. Me, I still have a huge soft spot for the > holy trinity of Steve Ditko, Jack Kirby and Gil Kane, but that's a > pretty dated perspective these daze...the fact that Karen Ellis is > a limey goth probably has something to do with it too. Planet Karen just looks indie to me, rather than manga-ish. Short, unrelated rant: If it's from Japan, it's manga. If it's from Korea, it's manhwa. If it's from the U.S., it's just a fuckin' digest!* *Not that they can't be good, or OK, or whatever. - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 02:45:39 -0600 (CST) From: David Witzany Subject: Lehrer on 45 Nope, not just you. Those are the two songs that The Great One orchestrated and, as I recall, released as a single. I believe they're only currently available on the big Rhino boxed set, with liner notes by Son of The Great One (Dr. Demento). After those two, his best-known song is surely "Silent 'e'", thanks to a generation of "Electric Company" viewers. Dave. ...who started a minutes-long reflection on dwitzany@uiuc.edu Tennessee Tuxedo on "City of Heroes" today Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 12:14:06 +0000 From: craigie* Subject: Re: Tom Lehrer, 1952 Funny, I always thought that his most popular songs in England were 'The Masochism Tango' and 'Poisoning Pigeons In The Park'. Oh. Just me then. c* Dave. David Witzany ...one of nature's witzany@uiuc.edu bounds checkers ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 09:17:52 +0000 From: craigie* Subject: Re: Guaranteed No Hitchcock Content On 05/12/2007, kevin wrote: > > >...the fact that Karen Ellis is a limey goth probably has something to do > with it too. > You say that like it's a bad thing! c* (who has to admit to having a fascination with GothGirls... mmmm evil-licious!) - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 09:24:46 +0000 From: craigie* Subject: Re: Lehrer on 45 I have a CD of the two 'In Concert' LPs from the 50's. I still listen to it occasionally... so if anyone wants a copy, give me a shout while I still ahve CDRs spare... c* On 06/12/2007, David Witzany wrote: > > Nope, not just you. Those are the two songs that The Great One > orchestrated and, as I recall, released as a single. I believe they're only > currently available on the big Rhino boxed set, with liner notes by Son of > The Great One (Dr. Demento). > > After those two, his best-known song is surely "Silent 'e'", thanks to a > generation of "Electric Company" viewers. > > > Dave. ...who started a minutes-long reflection on > dwitzany@uiuc.edu Tennessee Tuxedo on "City of Heroes" today > > > Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 12:14:06 +0000 > From: craigie* > Subject: Re: Tom Lehrer, 1952 > > Funny, I always thought that his most popular songs in England were 'The > Masochism Tango' and 'Poisoning Pigeons In The Park'. > > Oh. > > Just me then. > > c* > Dave. > > David Witzany ...one of nature's > witzany@uiuc.edu bounds checkers > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 08:01:09 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Lehrer on 45 David Witzany wrote: > Nope, not just you. Those are the two songs that The Great One orchestrated I didn't know that Gretzky had skills off the ice?! Stewart (who grew up on Lehrer; I think "The Irish Ballad" is my favourite) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 09:54:47 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: that's odd... On Dec 5, 2007 8:01 PM, Michael Sweeney wrote: > Rex wrote >On Dec 3, 2007 2:55 PM, 2fs wrote: > >>>> > (Also: I can't be the only one who can't see the word "Reuters" without>> > thinking of the Wire song, can I?) > >Nope. That song is almost certainly > the > first place I encountered the word. > > > Not for me...brief journalism major around 1980 that I was, it'll always > be > part of a triptych -- AP, UPI, and Reuters -- to me... > > (Also, semi-strangely, Wire is one of the positively-thought-of and > influential bands of that period (Sonic Youth is another) that never > really > drifted onto my radar... I class Sonic Youth as later than Wire. "Two People in a Room" is the blueprint for SY, to my ears, quite a few years beforehand. > only know a few of their songs (put it this way, I > know more of the songs by REPUTATION and reading about them than I've > actually > heard). But here's a bit of bizarre, semi-oblique Wire-connected trivia: > Jim > DeRogatis, the fairly-well-respected rock critic for the Chicago Sun-Times > (plus the co-host of the syndicated radio rock talk show, "Sound Opinions" > and > author of many books, including one about Lester Bangs and one about > psychedelic rock through the years (he often has nice things to say about > Robyn)), is also a drummer...and when he was younger he played in a Wire > cover > band that actually opened for Wire on a semi-latter-day tour -- so the > young > acolytes could play the expected back catalog, leaving the actual band to > concentrate on whatever newer stuff they wanted to play (or so I've heard > the > story).) > That would've been Ex-Lion Tamer, and you have the story spot-on. > > Michael "Even more strangely, I believe I'm familiar with more songs by > Wire > Train than by Wire (I know, I know...)" Sweeney I don't know anything by Wire Train. I always have a sort of subconscious beef against later bands that have partially-similar name to older ones... "If they didn't know Wire well enough to not give themselves a name that might be confused with Wire, how good can they be?" Juvenile of me, I'm sure. - -Rex > > _________________________________________________________________ > Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's > FREE! > > http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 09:58:24 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Please to make a goddam list (and check it twice) On Dec 5, 2007 8:55 PM, Stacked Crooked wrote: > neighbour is looking for obscure xmas songs. please begin submission > process...now! Loud Family, "It Just Wouldn't Be Christmas" Saint Etienne, "I Was Born on Christmas Day" Fuzzy, "Christmas" (great song) The Fall, "No Xmas for John Quays" John Cale, "A Child's Christmas in Wales" Loads more... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 10:07:33 -0800 From: "Jason Brown" Subject: Re: Please to make a goddam list (and check it twice) On Dec 5, 2007 8:55 PM, Stacked Crooked wrote: > neighbour is looking for obscure xmas songs. please begin submission > process...now! From a compilation a friend gave a me a few years ago. Yulesville - Edd "Kookie" Byrnes Space Christmas - Shonen Knife Can't Stop Thinking About Christmas - Universal Honey Christmas On Riverside Drive - August Darnell Santa Claus Is Coming To My House - Karla DeVito Nothin' For Christmas - Eartha Kitt Transylvanian Xmas - Mojo Nixon & Skid Roper I Don't Intend To Spend Christmas Without You - Margo Guryan Verhanukkah - Kisswhistle (Elvis Costello cover) What Will Santa Claus Say (When He Finds Everybody Swingin'?) - Louis Prima Santa Looked A Lot Like - Daddy Buck Owens & His Buckaroos Est Ne (He Is Born) - Tom Tom Club - -- "Never go with a hippie to a second location." - Jack Donaghy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 12:26:32 -0800 From: "michael wells" Subject: RE: Please to make a goddam list (and check it twice) >neighbour is looking for obscure xmas songs. please begin submission >process...now! "No Presents for Christmas" - King Diamond. Not necessarily obscure, but fun. "A Christmas Carol" - Tom Lehrer (THREADMERGE!) I'm dreaming of a white...Sabbath! Michael ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:46:39 -0500 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: Please to make a goddam list (and check it twice) Rex wrote: > On Dec 5, 2007 8:55 PM, Stacked Crooked wrote: > >> neighbour is looking for obscure xmas songs. please begin submission >> process...now! Just digging through Ye Olde i-Tunes. Some are modern and a lot are cheesy lounge versions. The Christmas Song - Toshi Akigoto Jing-A-Ling, Jing-A-Ling - The Andrews Sisters Christmas Island - Bob Artcher & The Dinning Sisters Zat You, Santa Claus - Louis Armstrong Merry Christmas - Cedrick Bravo w/Rico and the Four Stars Go Power at Christmas Time - James Brown Santa Claus Go Straight to the Ghetto - James Brown Step Into Christmas - The Business Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) - Death Cab for Cutie Sleigh Ride - Lenny Dee (horrendous version on a Wurlitzer, I think. It's a whole album and any track is equally as bad as another) Christmas Vacation - The Descendents Let It Snow/Rudolph, the Red-Nosed Reindeer - Eddie Dunstedter Gloria - Elastica Christmas Dancing (album) - The James Last Band (cheese c.'66) Santa Got Lost In Texas - Michael Landon Twas the Night Before Christmas - Liberace (spoken word creepiness) Christmas Card from a Hooker in Minneapolis - Magnapop Rudolph the Manic Reindeer - Los Lobos Ode to Joy - New Order (really bad) Jingle Bells - The Partridge Family Inglejay Ellsbay - Pig Latin Christmas Don't Give Me No Goose For Christmas Santa - Saul T. Peter (a bit crass) Xmas at K-Mat - Root Boy Slim Millie Pulled a Gun on Santa - The Roots 21st Century Christmas - Saint Etienne One Christmas Catalogue - Captain Sensible Space Christmas - Shonen Knife Santa Doesn't Cop Out on Dope - Sonic Youth Christmas Day - Squeeze Christmas Time - Christ Stamey Group Hark! Songs for Christmas Vol. 1-3 (albums) - Sufjan Stevens Santa's Beard - They Might Be Giants A Ding Dong Dandy Christmas (album) - The Three Suns (accordion cheese) Could Have Been Christmas - Tsunami Frosty the Snowman - The Ventures No Christmas - The Wedding Present (instrumental) Shouldn't Have Given Him a Gun for Christmas - Wall of Voodoo Thanks for Christmas - XTC - -f. I've got two DJ Riko mixes that I'm personally fond of, too, but they're not everybody's type of stuff. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 13:43:05 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: that's odd... On Dec 6, 2007 11:54 AM, Rex wrote: > > > On Dec 5, 2007 8:01 PM, Michael Sweeney wrote: > > > > > > > (Also, semi-strangely, Wire is one of the positively-thought-of and > > influential bands of that period (Sonic Youth is another) that never > > really > > drifted onto my radar... > > > I class Sonic Youth as later than Wire. "Two People in a Room" is the > blueprint for SY, to my ears, quite a few years beforehand. > I never would have thought of Wire as any sort of blueprint for SY...and at first, thinking of the Wire song you name, I couldn't hear it at all. Until my mental jukebox came upon "'Cross the Breeze" - that'd make a pretty fine segue! - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 14:01:35 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Please to make a goddam list (and check it twice) On Dec 6, 2007 10:07 AM, Jason Brown wrote: > > Transylvanian Xmas - Mojo Nixon & Skid Roper > Must to add, although it's not easy to find (unless you ask me): "Reggae Christmas Eve in Transylvania", Count Floyd - -Rex ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #420 ********************************