From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #414 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, November 29 2007 Volume 16 : Number 414 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Kimberly says [kevin ] Re: Wire [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: Kimberly says [2fs ] a greatest hit, a greeting card tune, and The Nomi Song [Jill Brand ] Dude, I *totally* got a picture of jesus' mo'-fuckin' step-dad! ["Stacked] RE: Kimberly says "Happy Birthday!"...and thanks for the royalty! [Benj] the democrats vs. the screenwriters [lep ] what the frack? [lep ] Re: what the frack? [Christopher Gross ] Re: what the frack? ["Sumiko Keay" ] Re: what the frack? ["Jason Brown" ] Re: the democrats vs. the screenwriters [kevin ] Re: Kimberly says [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: what the frack? ["Sumiko Keay" ] Re: what the frack? [kevin ] Re: what the frack? [2fs ] About what's-his-name [kevin ] Re: what the frack? [Rex ] Re: what the frack? ["Sumiko Keay" ] Re: what the frack? [lep ] Re: what the frack? [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: what the frack? [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: what the frack? [kevin ] Tiny Vipers [Sebastian Hagedorn ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:05:07 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: Kimberly says >I want a greeting card that plays "Where Are the Prawns." I don't know or >care what occasion the card would celebrate. I just think it would be >neat. The phrase Prawn Thursday comes to mind. I have no idea why. Now I gotta go home and break out the old Two Halves For the Price Of One again...there's that gorgeous "Astronomy Domine" on there too... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:01:33 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: Wire Jeff a dit > > And remember the reason why XTC originally called themselves Star >> Park... > >Swindon's leading Korean stripper? heh. nice. James (who is clearly too quick on the reply button these days) - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:16:38 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Kimberly says On 11/28/07, kevin wrote: > > >It has teh goodz as a song, too... it >does what it does well enough for > a whole song before you even get to the >"one for the girl" bit, which is > like bonus goodness. > > Which always reminds me of the nursery rhyme "One for sorrow, two for joy, > etc." I first ran across somewhere in Neil Gaiman's Sandman comix. Strikes > me it should have been set to music for Marianne Faithfull (the young one, > not the contemporary one). Well, there's Jefferson Airplane's "Good Shepherd," which uses that line - and is rather pastoral in feel. Actually I think it's paraphrasing that line, now that I think of it. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:22:04 -0500 (EST) From: Jill Brand Subject: a greatest hit, a greeting card tune, and The Nomi Song Sebastian wrote: "Isn't "So You Think You're In Love" his best-known song?" I didn't think he had a best-known song. All I know is that the cool and groovy Boston station of the late 80s (WFNX) played Balloon Man regularly. As for greeting cards, Lady Waters and the Hooded One could be in a card for people suffering from any kind of pox, shingles, or the plague. Maybe not. And now to The Nomi Song. I was always intrigued by Klaus Nomi, though I didn't own any of his albums and only ever saw him perform in Urgh: a Music War and on SNL. I used to hear him occasionally on college radio stations and was captivated by his amazing falsetto. There seemed to be something so Berlin 1930s about him, too, and being a bit of a teutonophile, I suppose that I was a perfect target. Anyway, I have been in that working mother stage of existence for so long that actually going to see this movie never entered my mind, but I saw that it was on Comcast's free movies (!!) so Thomas (my husband, who is German) and I watched it the other night. I was spellbound. I could have watched him for hours. The costumes made me think of everything that I love about German Expressionism and brought me back to an exhibit that I saw in Hamburg about a million years ago of costumes and sets that were designed by someone whose name starts with an "S" and I can't for the life of me remember his name. But I digress. Because I am actually writing this for another reason. Kristian Hoffman. Kristian Hoffman is probably known to most people who even know who he is because of his musical collaboration with Lance Loud in a band called the Mumps and for the fact that he wrote most of Klaus Nomi's music (including Total Eclipse of the Sun). Did I know any of this? No. I knew him as the guy who played keyboards for Dave Davies in tiny bars when Dave toured solo in the late 90s. I have one of his CDs. We exchanged pleasantries at gigs. Maybe I even brought him a beer once. So there I sat, watching this very poignant homage to Klaus Nomi and, all of a sudden, there was Kristian Hoffman on my TV. I blurted out, "I know him!", but my husband assumed that I meant "know him" in, you know, a musical way not in a "I bought him a beer once" kind of way. Maybe it's good that I didn't know anything else about him back in the bar days because I probably would have tripped all over myself trying to say something witty. And his sister is Nina Kiriki Hoffman. I promise I'll shut up now. And I didn't talk about of Montreal once. Except that Kevin Barnes has nothing on Klaus Nomi. High praise, indeed. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 21:32:08 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Kimberly says kevin wrote: > > Which always reminds me of the nursery rhyme "One for sorrow, two for > joy, etc." I first ran across somewhere in Neil Gaiman's Sandman > comix. Strikes me it should have been set to music for Marianne > Faithfull (the young one, not the contemporary one). Nah, if you're from the UK and of a certain age, all you can think of is the Spencer Davis Group version that was the theme tune to "Magpie" ... Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:20:54 -0800 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: Dude, I *totally* got a picture of jesus' mo'-fuckin' step-dad! . ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:38:07 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: RE: Kimberly says "Happy Birthday!"...and thanks for the royalty! On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Bachman, Michael wrote: > Kimberly must have earned a tidy sum over the years from "Walking on > Sunshine." He might be geeting more revenue from "Liverpool" soon, as > the Bangles - All Over The Place is being reissued in January. Not sure > if it will be remastered with bonus cuts or what. It would be nice > though if the Bangles ep from 1982 was included on it. Looks like it'll be on Wounded Bird. They're like Collector's Choice and typically do straight reissues, no? Never understood why Columbia let that one go out of print. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:15:39 -0500 From: lep Subject: the democrats vs. the screenwriters when i saw this headline, it sounded like the debate was off because the candidates can't get anyone to write their material: http://www.reuters.com/article/mediaNews/idUSN2864566520071128 (which may well be the reason, but the ``official'' reason is leading democratic candidates won't cross the picket line.) xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:33:38 -0500 From: lep Subject: what the frack? hi fegs (BSG division), so none of you watched ``razor''? you get me hooked, then abandon me? i have to wander the streets to find people to discuss it with? well, the people on the streets - turns out they didn't watch either. i'll go talk to myself in a corner. as ever, lauren - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:07:13 -0500 (EST) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: what the frack? On Thu, 29 Nov 2007, lep wrote: > hi fegs (BSG division), > > so none of you watched ``razor''? Recorded it, haven't watched it yet. And the way things are looking now, I won't get to watch it until Saturday or Sunday. What kind of fool schedules a special TV event for Thanksgiving weekend, when half of America is away from home? (Answer: a network executive.) - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:09:51 -0600 From: "Sumiko Keay" Subject: Re: what the frack? I watched it. It made me hungry for more. I can't wait for my "extended" version to arrive next week. I want to see all the flashbacks in the whole PLUS there were supposed to be Cain flashbacks to her childhood or something. And that last thing? What the heck did that mean? Also - I wonder if the reason why Doral was so intent on getting Apollo to Galactica was something to do with young Bill Adama back on the ice planet or some other Adama destiny thing that they aren't talking about. And, also wondering if maybe Attorney Adama (Lee's abuelo) didn't have something to do with a Scopes like trial involving the original AI that started the Cylons. (Wasn't that Caprica show supposed to be about the invention of the original models?) And I thought that Stephanie Jacobson was great. And I went back and re-watched Resurrection Ship parts 1 and 2 and sure enough, Cain tells Fisk to get "razors" when he is assembling the detail of marines to take to Galactica. Sumi On 11/29/07, lep wrote: > hi fegs (BSG division), > > so none of you watched ``razor''? > > you get me hooked, then abandon me? i have to wander the streets to > find people to discuss it with? well, the people on the streets - > turns out they didn't watch either. i'll go talk to myself in a > corner. > > as ever, > lauren > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." > > - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:16:23 -0800 From: "Jason Brown" Subject: Re: what the frack? On Nov 29, 2007 12:33 PM, lep wrote: > so none of you watched ``razor''? I loved it. It wasnt quite a totally stand alone movie but it was a great two-parter. I thought they did a good job explaining Cain's actions without being to melodramatic about it. The Gina-Cain thing was great. I loved the retro cylons and Adama flashback. I'm looking forward to seeing more of that in the extended DVD release. I thought Kendra shaw was a very cool character and i was sad to see her go. And the reveal at the end got me all excited for season 4. I caught a sneak preview of Razor at a local movie theater two weeks ago. The nerd level of the crowd was surprisingly modest. Although there was one guy decked out in in an old school brown BSG flight jacket and he freaked out when the old timey cylons showed up. And after it was over Jamie Bamber and Stephanie Chaves-Jacobsen talked at the end in person and showed of their very cool accents and gave away Zunes and Xboxes whch was a cool surprise. - -- "Never go with a hippie to a second location." - Jack Donaghy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:32:17 -0500 (EST) From: kevin Subject: Re: the democrats vs. the screenwriters >(which may well be the reason, but the ``official'' reason is leading >democratic candidates won't cross the picket line.) At least they're being nice enough to pretend to respect the crumbling remains of the labor movement... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:36:28 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: what the frack? Jason says: blah blah blah Chris Gross explained: blah blah blah Sumi says: blah blah blah oh, call me sentimental, but i'm very happy you people exist. i'll give my 2 cents a bit later...right now it feels like the end semester got here early and often. this extended version...can one order it on amazon or such? as ever, lauren, cableless, slave to the bittorrent - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:37:58 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: Kimberly says >I have to stoop to "Balloon Man," > > which, 8 of 10 times (to be generous, probably) gets returned blank > > stares... > >Isn't "So You Think You're In Love" his best-known song? FWIW, when i first introduced Alice to Robyn's music, she said "isn't he the one who did that song 'Madonna of the Wasps'?" As for RH greetings cards, how about: "Beautiful girl" - for Valentines Day "I used to say I love you" - for breaking up "My favourite buildings" - for moving house and - of course - "I got a message for you" - --- > >PS, Isn't the subject line a Lou Reed song? > >As in, "Kimberly says / As he cashes his royalty checks"...? > >i thought it was a Rew Lead song ? Oh, that's a goody. - --- > >It has teh goodz as a song, too... it >does what it does well enough for > a whole song before you even get to the >"one for the girl" bit, which is > like bonus goodness. > > Which always reminds me of the nursery rhyme "One for sorrow, two for joy, > etc." A generation of British Fegs brought up in the early 70s will now be humming the theme to "Magpie" James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:02:39 -0600 From: "Sumiko Keay" Subject: Re: what the frack? Yes, you can or you mght netflix if - it comes out on Tuesday. Sumi On 11/29/07, lep wrote: > Jason says: > blah blah blah > > Chris Gross explained: > blah blah blah > > Sumi says: > blah blah blah > > oh, call me sentimental, but i'm very happy you people exist. > > i'll give my 2 cents a bit later...right now it feels like the end > semester got here early and often. > > this extended version...can one order it on amazon or such? > > as ever, > lauren, cableless, slave to the bittorrent > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." > > - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:07:42 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: what the frack? >as ever, >lauren, cableless, slave to the bittorrent Now that sounds like Bryan Ferry. Circa Bete Noire, maybe. np Thelonius Monk Quartet w/John Coltrane @ Carnegie Hall ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:28:46 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: what the frack? On 11/29/07, lep wrote: > > > lauren, cableless, slave to the bittorrent That's enough of the smutty talk. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:29:07 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: kevin Subject: About what's-his-name Oh am I ever feeling sorry for myself. It looks like once again I'm going to miss Robyn - this will be three in a row, I believe. Runny nose, sneezing all day, scratchy throat, general lack of interest in life - not to mention my significant other will be working till 8 tonite. What can I say, I'm just getting too old to be up all night...and after paying 40 bucks. If anybody's interested in using a reservation I can't, let me know offline... On the other hand I've just rediscovered a Sean Nelson blog post devoted to my first RH show, a true barn-burner during Bumbershoot 2005 that you won't find at Asking Tree for some reason. You have to scroll down a ways (to "droppin' names"). It's just a couple a paragraphs but it conveys some of the flavor of the event. And I disagree - that "Day In the Life" was plenty begotten: http://www.theseannelson.com/blog/archives/2005_09_01_index.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 14:10:29 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: what the frack? On Nov 29, 2007 1:16 PM, Jason Brown wrote: > > I caught a sneak preview of Razor at a local movie theater two weeks > ago. The nerd level of the crowd was surprisingly modest. Although > there was one guy decked out in in an old school brown BSG flight > jacket and he freaked out when the old timey cylons showed up. Hey, that was my Halloween costume in 1978. Probably doesn't fit any more, though. They used tha actual old series Cylons? That's kind of nice. The original BSG wasn't really good, but it had a few things that made it awesome to me at 8 yrs old, and the Cylons were the top of the heap... nice piece of design, despite the obvious Darth Vader inspiration. They conveyed a hell of a lot of menace without being able to, like, really do anything. I guess they were America's belated answer to the Daleks in that respect. The opticals, as overused as they were over the show, were pretty damned good, too... I remember when Trek TNG came on, and being really disappointed that the video composite effects were so much lamer than BSG, which was in reruns at the time. And yeah, I saw every episode of GALACTICA 1980. Go, flying motorcycle-viper things. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:34:43 -0600 From: "Sumiko Keay" Subject: Re: what the frack? Lauren, Did you catch the "flashback" minisodes? You can watch the 'sodes at the BSG website: http://www.scifi.com/battlestar or find them at youtube by searching for Razor flashback. There are 7 in total. Sumi On 11/29/07, lep wrote: > Jason says: > blah blah blah > > Chris Gross explained: > blah blah blah > > Sumi says: > blah blah blah > > oh, call me sentimental, but i'm very happy you people exist. > > i'll give my 2 cents a bit later...right now it feels like the end > semester got here early and often. > > this extended version...can one order it on amazon or such? > > as ever, > lauren, cableless, slave to the bittorrent > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." > > - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:02:27 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: what the frack? speaking of bsg, don't tell me sebastian got all in a huff about that german boyfriend euphemism we (well, kevin and sebastian) invented (i know how temperamental he gets.) hopefully he's sick of us for other, more mundane, reasons. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:18:32 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: what the frack? - -- lep is rumored to have mumbled on 29. November 2007 15:33:38 -0500 regarding what the frack?: > hi fegs (BSG division), > > so none of you watched ``razor''? I haven't yet. I got it weeks ago when it showedup in tvtorrents.com, but at the time I was busy and then I read some not-so-favorable reviews and then ... I just haven't gotten around to it yet. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 00:45:59 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: what the frack? - -- lep is rumored to have mumbled on 29. November 2007 18:02:27 -0500 regarding Re: what the frack?: > speaking of bsg, don't tell me sebastian got all in a huff about that > german boyfriend euphemism we (well, kevin and sebastian) invented (i > know how temperamental he gets.) > > hopefully he's sick of us for other, more mundane, reasons. Aw, you missed me! That's so sweet! As it so happens I was about to write a recap post anyway, but now that I can usurp this thread for it - so much the better. I wen to three shows in the last five days, which is unusual for me. Saturday: Gravenhurst at Gebaeude 9. I only knew Gravenhurst from the soundtrack for the German movie "Ein Freund von mir". I liked both movie and soundtrack a lot, but somehow never actually got anything by Gravenhurst. The soundtrack is very quiet and - IIRC - entirely instrumental. So that was what I expected. The venue wasn't sold out, but filled well. Before Gravenhurst there was a band called from Brooklyn, NY called Yea-Sayer. The audience in general liked them quite a bit, but I thought they were hit and miss at best. Still, I've heard much worse opening bands. Gravenhurst were pretty good and to my suprise quite noisy. Turns out they added a second guitar and changed their sound over the years. There were very quiet songs, but others were *really* loud. I think that was a good thing, because otherwise it might've become boring, but it wasn't what I'd expected. Sunday: The New Pornographers at Gebaeude 9 With this band I did one better over Gravenhurst, because I hadn't heard *anything* of theirs prior to the show - I'd gone based solely on the recommendations here. This time there were only 100 people there, which was a shame. Opening was a local band that played for way too long. The actual show was great. At the beginning the sound wasn't very good and for the whole show I had the feeling that I was missing the subtleties, because the venue's PA just can't handle six instruments and up to four voices simultaneously. Still I liked what I heard. I liked it sou much that I bought all 4 CDs they had on sale. I've listened through them only once so far and am not yet ready to commit myself, but "Sing Me Spanish Techno" is my current favorite song! The drummer was hyper-active, doing (not always successfully) circus tricks with his drum sticks and drinking *lots* of beer. Otherwise the band was conspicuously ... what's the word? Reticent? Subdued? They hardly talked to the audinece at all and the keyboarder looked really grim throughout the whole show. Is that par for the course with them? Tonight: Buffalo Tom at the Prime Club I used to like Buffalo Tom in the 90's but never was a fan. Still, when I saw that they were coming on tour I decided to go to the show. I always thought they were like the Lemonhead's little brothers. I've seen the Lemonheads last year and they were great, so I was hoping for something similar. The club wasn't sold out, but the crowd seemed decent. Opening was a band whose name I first took to be Tiny Diapers. I kinda wish that'd been it :-) They're actually called Tiny Vipers, which makes more sense, but isn't as funny. I learned that when I bought their current CD after the show. I'm beating myself up that as usual I was too nervous to get anything resembling a conversation going, even though I think that they would've actually appreciated it. Most of all I'm upset I didn't tell them about my mondegreen - I think I'll send them an e-mail if I find an address. Tiny Diapers, eh, Vipers is actually just one person, as I learn from the credits. It's one Jesy Fortino. You couldn't be blamed if you mistook her for Cat Power. I'm listening to the CD now and one of the tags that last.fm has for the music is "cute girl folk". That sounds reasonable. Definitely more reasonable than the genre tag I got from iTunes. Somebody classified the music as "Metal". Go figure. Tiny Vipers turned out to be the best thing about the night. Buffalo Tom were a disappointment, to be honest. They seemed decent guys, but the show was just boring. The guitar player was *awful* whenever he tried to play a solo. There were a few songs that I liked: Mineral, Frozen Lake. But that's not a lot for a whole show. I'm sure I'm forgetting things, but I'm tired and wanted to finish this so I would actually write it and not just keep thinking about writing it. Nighty-night! - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 15:47:41 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: what the frack? >speaking of bsg, don't tell me sebastian got all in a huff about that >german boyfriend euphemism we (well, kevin and sebastian) invented (i >know how temperamental he gets.) Don't go pointing that thing at me. I didn't "invent" anything; I just observed a potential node of meaning in the free play of language. You haven't been reading your Baudrillard. The "author" is dead! Down with the tyranny of the signifier! In other news, wife has found someone who's interested in seeing Robyn et al. at the Triple Door tonight (and I do hope some of y'all make it down there to support the side); my nose feels like it's stuffed with wet socks; and Netflix has blessed us with the first disc of Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman season one. Sherman, set the Wayback Machine for 1976... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:05:25 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Tiny Vipers It's actually even cooler when people *listen* and don't talk through the whole set, as they did tonight. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #414 ********************************