From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #407 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, November 21 2007 Volume 16 : Number 407 Today's Subjects: ----------------- for title of movie sub title of Zombies song [Michael Sweeney ] Re: reunion tour ["Stewart C. Russell" ] RE: From the Environmental Impact Desk ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Joe doc addendum [Rex ] Re: From the Environmental Impact Desk [Rex ] Re: From the Environmental Impact Desk [Rex ] Re: reunion tour [2fs ] Somebody shoot me [kevin ] Sad E Street News [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: Somebody shoot me [2fs ] RE: Joe doc addendum [Michael Sweeney ] Rabyn in the AV Club again... [Rex ] Re: reunion tour [Rex ] Re: Somebody shoot me [Rex ] RE: Somebody shoot me ["Bachman, Michael" ] RE: Somebody shoot me [kevin ] Re: Somebody shoot me ["m swedene" ] Re: Somebody shoot me [Rex ] Re: Somebody shoot me [kevin ] RE: Somebody shoot me [Maximilian Lang ] Re: Somebody shoot me [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Somebody shoot me [lep ] Re: Somebody shoot me [Rex ] Re: Somebody shoot me [Rex ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 07:21:28 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: for title of movie sub title of Zombies song Jeff wrote: >Of all the folks who play Bob in the movie, which one actually looks themost like Bob? Cate Blanchett. By a pretty serious margin, actually.< ...Yeah, from the pix and trailer I saw, that struck me, too -- although, "impressions of" Zimmy, blah, blah, different ages and eras, yadda, yadda, "channelling inner spirits of"...etc., etc. Still...think I DO want to see it (but first gotta carve (haw, haw) out time this week for the Joe Strummer movie ("The Future is Unwritten;" by Julien Temple) playing the rest of the week at the Music Box...) Michael "Y'know what credit I always loved? 'Piano: Mick Jones; Pianner: Joe Strummer'" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE! http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 07:45:08 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Joe doc addendum ...And my T-giving week just got less hectic. Available on Comcast On Demand until 02/05/08 (under Movies & Events >> IFC in Theaters >> Joe Strummer), "Joe Strummer: The Future is Unwritten." I'd (generally) rather see it on a big screen, but factor in the any-time-in-the-next-3-months convenience and the cost (at $5.99, considerably less than getting the two of us over there and in; between having to sue one client for non-payment and trying to coax another one into committing on the book he's sorta wanted me to do for more than a year now, it's gotten extra-tight)...and, well, On Demand it is... Michael "Weddings, parties, anything...And bongo jazz a specialty" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/connect.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_newways_112007 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 07:51:12 -0500 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: reunion tour Jill Brand wrote: > I think Stewart, at least, will appreciate this. Eurgh! I don't want to see music I like in ads! I closed the window as soon as I saw the title, as I didn't want to hear it. Kevin's article on selling out is a very study in denial. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 08:53:04 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: From the Environmental Impact Desk - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of 2fs Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 12:44 AM To: Jeff Dwarf Cc: And Rex Hamilton as Abraham Lincoln Subject: Re: From the Environmental Impact Desk On 11/20/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > l > > >Indeed. I've been trying to think of an analog for Mr. Mladick's > > >statement: > > > > >"I couldn't imagine raising my kids in an environment where they > > >wouldn't have the opportunity to grow up being passionate about the > > >same sports that I grew up being passionate about," he said. > > >Sad douchebag has no imagination apparently. I hope his children all > >hate going to the waterpark with him since they resent his trying to > >force them to become his clones instead of his children, causing his > >wife leaves him for a really hot chick and to then take the kids and > >moves to Vermont, where the kids all become avid sudoku-ers and > >quilting bee-ers. Baseball certainly has shrunk over the last couple of decades in the US. Faster paced lifestyles seem to have left baseball in the dust. I agree that the rise of other sports and activities is great. Kids should be able to choose rather than have baseball shoved down their throats. >I read that last as "quilting beers" - and think that would be a fine idea >indeed: the sole requirement being that the quilters drink beers while quilting together. I think the resulting work >would be...interesting. Doug and Bob McKenzie would love it, as long as they could fry up some back bacon while quilting and drinking beers! Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 07:43:23 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: RE: From the Environmental Impact Desk "Bachman, Michael" wrote: > > On 11/20/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > > > l > > > >Indeed. I've been trying to think of an analog for Mr. > Mladick's > > > >statement: > > > > > > >"I couldn't imagine raising my kids in an environment where > they > > > >wouldn't have the opportunity to grow up being passionate > about the > > > > >same sports that I grew up being passionate about," he said. > > > > >Sad douchebag has no imagination apparently. I hope his children > all > > >hate going to the waterpark with him since they resent his > trying to > > >force them to become his clones instead of his children, causing > his > > >wife leaves him for a really hot chick and to then take the kids > and > > >moves to Vermont, where the kids all become avid sudoku-ers and > > >quilting bee-ers. > > Baseball certainly has shrunk over the last couple of decades in > the US. Faster paced lifestyles seem to have left baseball in the > dust. I agree that the rise of other sports and activities is > great. Kids should be able to choose rather than have baseball > shoved down their throats. That has nothing to do with some old surfer dood inflicting a giant water park on a desert because he can't bear that his kids don't surf. There's a huge difference between parents sharing their interests with their kids and parents raping the landscape because their narcissism (and baseball has been being left in the dust for over a hundred years now, yet the industry keeps doing rather well in spite of themselves, World Series TV ratings notwithstanding; it's almost like people can enjoy both if they choose; nice try at the red herring though, sort of). > >I read that last as "quilting beers" - and think that would be a > >fine idea indeed: the sole requirement being that the quilters > >drink beers while quilting together. I think the resulting work > >would be...interesting. > > Doug and Bob McKenzie would love it, as long as they could fry up > some back bacon while quilting and drinking beers! "I'm not tempted to write a song about George W. Bush. I couldn't figure out what sort of song I would write. That's the problem: I don't want to satirize George Bush and his puppeteers, I want to vaporize them." -- Tom Lehrer "The eyes are the groin of the head." -- Dwight Schrute . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 07:53:19 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Joe doc addendum On 11/20/07, Michael Sweeney wrote: > > > Michael "Weddings, parties, anything...And bongo jazz a specialty" Sweeney Speciality, surely! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 07:56:17 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: From the Environmental Impact Desk On 11/20/07, 2fs wrote: > > > I read that last as "quilting beers" - and think that would be a fine idea > indeed: the sole requirement being that the quilters drink beers while > quilting together. I think the resulting work would be...interesting. This actually sounds like something my mom and her other ex-teacher friends could go in for if they can't round up enough people for bridge night... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 07:56:17 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: From the Environmental Impact Desk On 11/20/07, 2fs wrote: > > > I read that last as "quilting beers" - and think that would be a fine idea > indeed: the sole requirement being that the quilters drink beers while > quilting together. I think the resulting work would be...interesting. This actually sounds like something my mom and her other ex-teacher friends could go in for if they can't round up enough people for bridge night... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:35:17 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: reunion tour On 11/21/07, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > Jill Brand wrote: > > I think Stewart, at least, will appreciate this. > > Eurgh! I don't want to see music I like in ads! I closed the window as > soon as I saw the title, as I didn't want to hear it. > > Kevin's article on selling out is a very study in denial. I certainly don't agree with everything he said - and there are certainly a lot of products I wouldn't want to have associated with my favorite songs - but at the same time, it's true that holding out professional musicians as exemplars of holy separation from the market is absurd - and, for those of us who are not hermits, hypocritical as well. Most of us have jobs, most of us at times find ourselves directly or indirectly speaking for our employers or at least representing them: that is a species of advertising or promotion, and whatever skills we have (speaking, writing, just personal presentation) we bring to those tasks. Or let's put it this way: do we think less of a carpenter if he's hired to build something for Outback Steak House? No? Then why should we think less of a musician if he's hired to write something for them? That last, though, is a key difference: I'd certainly rather have Barnes write new music for an Outback jingle than use an existing track. That's the question I'd ask him, actually: why not keep the music-as-music separate from music-as-commission? Sure, probably Outback asked for an OM song, not an original - maybe even asked for a specific one - but I'd rather Barnes simply said, no, you can't have that one - but I'll write your ad's music for you: here's my price. Still: I can't fault musicians for, like the rest of us, trying to make a living. Unfortunately, they're going to make a lot more of it selling their songs for ads or to appear in movies than airplay or sales are going to generate. In fact, I think it'd be great if someone like Barnes translated all the buzz about OM's music into a lucrative career writing jingles...and then he could just give away his "real" music. That is: in many ways, letting his music make money for Outback is probably more ethical than letting it make money for many of the snakes infesting the music industry. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:02:29 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: kevin Subject: Somebody shoot me The human across from me has brought in a tinny no-fi radio so she can fill the air with crappy Xmas muzak at stun volume. Fortunately I've got plenty of tunes loaded on my PC (about half the hard drive - a total violation of company policy, but I say it's their fault for giving me a machine with Media Player on it) and some cheesy speakers & so far I'm managing to combat the horror with Mott the Hoople, Gomez & the Modern Lovers. If it gets really bad I may just have to fire up "European Son" on infinite replay. If only I had the first Clash album with me... We're currently enjoying Burl Ives' sparkling "Holly Jolly Christmas." And that's one of the better examples. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:27:04 EST From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Sad E Street News _http://www.backstreets.com/news.html_ (http://www.backstreets.com/news.html) DANNY FEDERICI TAKING LEAVE OF ABSENCE Giordano to fill in as Danny fights melanoma The moving Magic performance in Boston on Monday night [see review _below_ (http://www.backstreets.com/news.html#anchor111907) ] was clearly in Danny Federici's honor, though much went unspoken. We now have an official statement, addressing his health as well as the next leg of the Magic tour: Danny Federici, an original member of the E Street Band, is taking a leave of absence from the current Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band tour to pursue treatment for melanoma. Charles Giordano, who played with Bruce as a member of the Sessions Band, will temporarily fill in for Danny until he is able to return. Federici has been playing keyboards with Springsteen since the late Sixties. Said Springsteen, "Danny is one of the pillars of our sound and has played beside me as a great friend for more than 40 years. We all eagerly await his healthy and speedy return." Federici has been actively supporting the _Melanoma Research Foundation_ (http://www.melanoma.org/) and its Wings of Hope Gala, honoring Dr. Paul Chapman. Our thoughts are with Danny, with prayers and high hopes for successful treatment. Our thoughts are with Charlie, too, as he prepares to step into some big shoes as the Magic tour rolls on. From what we saw on the Sessions tour, if anyone can do it, he can. - -November 21, 2007 **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:39:59 -0600 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Somebody shoot me On 11/21/07, kevin wrote: > > The human across from me has brought in a tinny no-fi radio so she can > fill the air with crappy Xmas muzak at stun volume. Fortunately I've got > plenty of tunes loaded on my PC (about half the hard drive - a total > violation of company policy, but I say it's their fault for giving me a > machine with Media Player on it) and some cheesy speakers & so far I'm > managing to combat the horror with Mott the Hoople, Gomez & the Modern > Lovers. If it gets really bad I may just have to fire up "European Son" on > infinite replay. If it gets unbearable, I can send you mp3s of _Metal Machine Music_... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:48:39 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: RE: Joe doc addendum Rex wrote: >On 11/20/07, Michael Sweeney wrote: >>Michael "Weddings, parties, anything...And bongo jazz a specialty" Sweeney >Speciality, surely! Yep, of course (and thanks for the catch)...just a slip between what I heard in my head and what my stiff little fingers typed... Michael "El Clash Combo" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Your smile counts. The more smiles you share, the more we donate. Join in. www.windowslive.com/smile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_oprsmilewlhmtagline ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:56:36 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Rabyn in the AV Club again... "Backward" review this time. http://www.avclub.com/content/music/robyn_hitchcock Alludes to the digital "Decay" as if it were in release already, but... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:16:06 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: reunion tour On 11/21/07, 2fs wrote: > > > I certainly don't agree with everything he said - and there are certainly > a > lot of products I wouldn't want to have associated with my favorite songs > - > but at the same time, it's true that holding out professional musicians as > exemplars of holy separation from the market is absurd - and, for those of > us who are not hermits, hypocritical as well. Yes, but I've always also thought that, were I in a position to be asked for my music to be used in such a fashion, I'd have some kind of gag reflex that would stop me from allowing it. That's not to pass judgment on those who do, really, but it has always personally struck me as yucky and I just wouldn't want to do it. Writing something new for a collaborative project would be something different. It's easy to make fun of those who still get all up in arms about the commodification* of music or art-- it's been going on for, like, a little while now-- but it's also hard to shake off that feeling, halfway between an instinct and a kneejerk-yet-learned reaction, that things like the "Blister in the Sun" burger ad are just kinda wrong, especially when one of the band members vociferously agrees. Related, yesterday I read this profile in the LA Times of this band of whom I'd never heard called, I think OneReplublic. I know, you've already started hating them for that spaceless name, but every subsequent statement made by the band seemed *designed* to increase the loathing exponentially to the point where, without ever having heard them. The frontguy makes all these statements, almost boastfully, about how much corporate and middle-American least-common-denominator cock he's willing to suck just to get his band over... most of the statements in themselves being sort of innoccuous, but taken together adding up to like a Manifesto for Musical Toolishness. Here, read it yousellf... it was a jawdropper to me. It's like they're using "selling out" for "street cred"... which just might, frighteningly, be viable now, the stupidity of both concepts aside. http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-onerepublic20nov20,0,5000593.story?coll=la-headlines-calendar - -Rex *a word? I mean "the transformation of something into a commodity", not, "the transformation of something into a commode", but it's often quite a fine line, isn't it? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:20:20 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Somebody shoot me On 11/21/07, kevin wrote: > > The human across from me has brought in a tinny no-fi radio so she can > fill the air with crappy Xmas muzak at stun volume. Fortunately I've got > plenty of tunes loaded on my PC (about half the hard drive - a total > violation of company policy, but I say it's their fault for giving me a > machine with Media Player on it) God gave you that Media Player for just that reason. I'm used to retail establishments putting up their Christmas stuff in October, but this is the first year I can recall seeing multiple private residences with Santas and shit *weeks* before Thanksgiving. Metal Machine Music is good. But for hauling out the big guns, you still can't beat Aphex Twin's "Ventolin". - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 13:11:12 -0500 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Somebody shoot me - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of 2fs Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 12:40 PM To: kevin Cc: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Re: Somebody shoot me On 11/21/07, kevin wrote: > > >The human across from me has brought in a tinny no-fi radio so she can > >fill the air with crappy Xmas muzak at stun volume. Fortunately I've > >got plenty of tunes loaded on my PC (about half the hard drive - a > >total violation of company policy, but I say it's their fault for > >giving me a machine with Media Player on it) and some cheesy speakers > >& so far I'm managing to combat the horror with Mott the Hoople, Gomez > >& the Modern Lovers. If it gets really bad I may just have to fire up > >"European Son" on infinite replay.> >If it gets unbearable, I can send you mp3s of _Metal Machine Music_... Flipper - Generic Flipper, would also be most effective. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:59:11 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: reunion tour >Yes, but I've always also thought that, were I in a position to be asked for >my music to be used in such a fashion, I'd have some kind of gag reflex that >would stop me from allowing it. That's not to pass judgment on those who >do, really, but it has always personally struck me as yucky and I just >wouldn't want to do it. Why doesn't it surprise me that a graduate of Oral Roberts would take up a career as a prostitute? Like Groucho said, you can lead a horticulture but you can't make her think...one look at that photo and I was convulsed because dickboy's soulful stare reminded me of a Calvin & Hobbes strip where the punchline is Hobbes saying "I don't think giving your mom the Bambi eyes is going to make her buy you a flame thrower." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:05:30 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: kevin Subject: RE: Somebody shoot me >If it gets unbearable, I can send you mp3s of _Metal Machine Music_... > > >Flipper - Generic Flipper, would also be most effective. These are all excellent suggestions, thanks everyone. I'll let you know. I'm pretty sure I still have the vinyl MMM I got at a garage sale for half a buck (which couldn't hae been played more than once) laying around somewhere... Currently: Gomez' "Here Comes the Breeze" from the live album, vs. "Jingle Bell Rock." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:17:51 -0500 From: "m swedene" Subject: Re: Somebody shoot me do you need a copy of the Yoko Ono Box Set? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:23:55 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Somebody shoot me On 11/21/07, kevin wrote: > > > Currently: Gomez' "Here Comes the Breeze" from the live album, vs. > "Jingle Bell Rock." Oooh, this could be a good recurring feature: NP-Vs. (Xmas Ed.) One thing that really alarms co-workers is lots and lots of The Fall. No Xmas for John Quays, motherfuckers. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:43:30 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: Somebody shoot me Oooh, this could be a good recurring feature: NP-Vs. (Xmas Ed.) One thing that really alarms co-workers is lots and lots of The Fall. No Xmas for John Quays, motherfuckers. I'm really not trying to scare anybody, just have something going I can relate to that masks the horror coming from the Mormon side ot the wall. But some of these suggestions have been great. Generic/Flipper cracked me up. Confession here - I've never knowingly heard The Fall, but it's clear they have a serious following among this feg community. Anything you can recommend to the curious neophyte, bearing in mind I'm partial to antisocial attitude, distorted guitars and serious melody? np Mott the Hoople, "Ready For Love" vs: a jewelry store ad... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 15:19:58 -0500 From: Maximilian Lang Subject: RE: Somebody shoot me > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 09:02:29 -0800> From: kevinstudyvin@earthlink.net> Subject: Somebody shoot me >If it gets really bad I may just have to fire up "European Son" on infinite replay. If only I had the >first Clash album with me... May I suggest Yoko Ono Plastic Ono Band? _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/connect.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_newways_112007 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:25:23 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Somebody shoot me - -- kevin is rumored to have mumbled on 21. November 2007 11:43:30 -0800 regarding Re: Somebody shoot me: > - I've never knowingly heard The Fall, but it's clear they have a > serious following among this feg community. Anything you can > recommend to the curious neophyte, bearing in mind I'm partial to > antisocial attitude, distorted guitars and serious melody? I guess everyone's got their favorites, but I'd recommend "This Nation's Saving Grace" or "The Infotainment Scam". - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 17:00:37 -0500 From: lep Subject: Re: Somebody shoot me kevin says: > Generic/Flipper cracked me up. Confession here > - I've never knowingly heard The Fall, but it's clear they have a > serious following among this feg community. Anything you can > recommend to the curious neophyte, bearing in mind I'm partial to > antisocial attitude, distorted guitars and serious melody? i like the early albums, but probably only because they're one of those bands that have too many albums for me to keep up with without being more of an obsessive. my favourite is "live at the witch trials" which i think was their first, and, coincidentally has ``no xmas for john quays.'' close behind are ``the wonderful and frightening world of the fall'' and ``perverted by language''. ``serious melody'' you might have trouble finding in the fall. i think i like them in spite of their lack of melody. all the discord seems enough to compensate. actually, the early albums might be the more melodic ones. i remember thinking that at one point. admittedly, my memory like twice removed on this point (i.e. i'm not even sure i remember thinking it), so maybe someone who has the stuff on cd or has their turntable up and running can offer some guidance on that point. as ever, lauren - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:24:40 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Somebody shoot me On 11/21/07, kevin wrote: > > > Confession here - I've never knowingly heard The Fall, but it's clear they > have a serious following among this feg community. Anything you can > recommend to the curious neophyte, bearing in mind I'm partial to antisocial > attitude, distorted guitars and serious melody? > > I dunno about "serious" melody, but MES has you covered on the other two fronts. You know, there was a compilation put out a few years back that I remember thinking was useless to me, but rather well-chosen... I think it was called something like "50,000 Fall Fans Can't Be Wrong". That's if you want the near-impossible, an overview of the whole thing. If you want to start with an album qua album, there are about ten stone-cold classics, any of which would serve equally well: - -Dragnet - -Perverted by Language - -Hex Enduction Hour - -Wonderful & Frightening World of... - -This Nation's Saving Grace - -The Frenz Experiment - -I Am Kurious Oranj - -Extricate - -The Infotainment Scan* - -The Real New Fall LP FKA Country on the Click I'd be interested to see any other Fall Top 10's for comparison. A lot of the records out there are famously shoddy quasi-legal compilations or live discs, or both, so knowing the titles of a few legit albums really helps (the AMG "Main Albums" entry is too congested to be of much use, not that I can blame the AMG for that). * The late '90's / early 00's are some of my least travelled with The Fall, as some of the records were actually, somehow, not that good, although I've recently started to pick up some of these records and find them not so bad for what they are. Contrary to what I'd believed when I picked up "Light User Syndrome" a few months back, there remain three Fall albums I do not own and have not yet heard in their entirety, if anyone needs any Christmas gift suggestions: Cerebral Caustic Middle Class Revolt Code: Selfish Despite these omissions, iTunes tells me I have 60 albums, 643 songs, and about 1.8 days worth of continuous, non-repeating Fall listening to enjoy at any time. Throw in some Von Sudenfed, DOSE, MES guest shots, and if necessary Creepers and Adult Net records and I can probably make two solid days of it. - -Rex, shivering to think what similar totals would look like for Robyn, among others... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 14:31:31 -0800 From: Rex Subject: Re: Somebody shoot me On 11/21/07, lep wrote: > > > actually, the early albums might be the more melodic ones. i remember > thinking that at one point. admittedly, my memory like twice removed > on this point Melody waxes and wanes throughout the years. But I think that those early records feature slightly more normal singing, as it were... for the first five or seven years you can imagine Smith's voice evolving differently that the way it did, but by the mid-(first) Brix period it's pretty much set in stone. Usually there's a great cover every two years or so which tends to ground me as to what, by comparison, MES's own contemporaneous songs might sound like if sung by a more "melodic" vocalist. There have been a few phases where, vocals aside, the band's hooks and riffs have been almost insanely melodic and catchy, like make-you-wanna-jump-up-and-down-in-your-seat bouncy. - -Rex ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #407 ********************************