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fegmaniax-digest      Thursday, November 15 2007      Volume 16 : Number 399



                               Today's Subjects:
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  attn: Linguistics Division                    [lep <softboygirl@gmail.com>]
  Re: The box set?                          [Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>]
  Re: Unearthed rare Soft Boys issue?       [Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>]
  Re: attn: Linguistics Division            [Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>]
  RE: The box set?                [Michael Sweeney <m_l_sweeney@hotmail.com>]
  Re: Robyn covering Zep?         [Michael Sweeney <m_l_sweeney@hotmail.com>]
  Re: Unearthed rare Soft Boys issue?  [Michael Sweeney <m_l_sweeney@hotmail]
  Re: My name is "Eb", and my "pooper-scooper" is all drooper-drooper :(  [M]
  Re: Robyn covering Zep?       ["Edward of Sim" <edwardofsim@tiscali.co.uk>]
  Re: Robyn's blue Tele stolen in Toronto  ["Stewart Russell" <scruss@gmail.]
  Re: attn: Linguistics Division  [Sebastian Hagedorn <Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-k]
  RE: My name is     ["Bachman, Michael" <Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com>]
  Re: attn: Linguistics Division        [kevin <kevinstudyvin@earthlink.net>]
  RE: fegmaniax-digest V16 #396  ["Bachman, Michael" <Michael.Bachman@fanucr]
  Re: Robyn's blue Tele stolen in Toronto  [kevin <kevinstudyvin@earthlink.n]
  RE: Robyn's blue Tele stolen in Toronto  ["Bachman, Michael" <Michael.Bach]
  RE: fegmaniax-digest V16 #396  ["Bachman, Michael" <Michael.Bachman@fanucr]
  Re: My name is                   [Steve Talkowski <stevetalkowski@mac.com>]
  Re: saxful "Man"              ["Gene Hopstetter Jr." <gene@hopstetter.com>]
  Re: d'oh                                          [xx <hbrtv219@yahoo.com>]
  Re: attn: Linguistics Division                [lep <softboygirl@gmail.com>]
  RE: saxful "Man"   ["Bachman, Michael" <Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com>]
  Re: Robyn covering Zep?                   [Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>]
  Re: Robyn's blue Tele stolen in Toronto   [Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>]
  Re: d'oh                                  [Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>]
  Re: Robyn @The AV Club          [Michael Sweeney <m_l_sweeney@hotmail.com>]
  RE: My name is                        [kevin <kevinstudyvin@earthlink.net>]
  Re: Robyn covering Zep?         [Michael Sweeney <m_l_sweeney@hotmail.com>]
  Re: Unearthed rare Soft Boys issue?   [kevin <kevinstudyvin@earthlink.net>]

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:54:12 -0500
From: lep <softboygirl@gmail.com>
Subject: attn: Linguistics Division

hi FegList,

I know for a fact that some of you have mastered the mother tongue,
and I was wondering about something.

I went on a Liz Phair jag a few weeks back (it was kind of nice
because I had forgotten how much I really do like ``Whip-Smart'.')
Every once in awhile, I ask someone about this, but I've never gotten
much of an answer (maybe there isn't one.) (....since it couldn't
possibly be that they just didn't much give a frack.)

On (I think it's) the title song, she says:

``I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green
  And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide''

The construction of that has always kind of fascinated me, and I've
wondered whether there's a formal name for it.  I mean, I know it's a
metaphor, but it's kind of odd because it sets up a metaphor between
two relationships instead of between two things (and, on top of that,
the relationships are a bit odd; I guess that the grass is indeed
green, but as far as the English Channel being wide - that seems like
kind of a toss up.)

Actually, the lines remind me of those SAT (U.S. standardized
college-entrance test) questions where they ask:

``<some word you don't know> is to <some other word you don't know> as:

(a) <some other word you don't know> is to <still some other word you
don't know>,
(b) <some other word you don't know> is to <aother word you don't know>,
(c) <some other word you don't know> is to <yet another word you don't know>,
(d) <some other word you don't know> is to <some word that *maybe* you
heard once or twice?>.''

This construction is at least as cool a zeugma, so it should get a
good name, too.

xo

- -- 
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"People with opinions just go around bothering one another."

                   - The Buddha

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:54:44 -0800
From: Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: The box set?

On 11/14/07, Michael Sweeney <m_l_sweeney@hotmail.com> wrote:

> And, as I've long maintained, first, second, last, whatever -- Greedo just
> plain needed shooting...

Ooda booda, Sweeney?

Fucker's name was "Greedo".  Not much to add.

- -Rex

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:57:14 -0800
From: Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Unearthed rare Soft Boys issue?

On 11/14/07, Marc Holden <marc.h@cox.net> wrote:

> At this point, I'm pretty much down to looking for a handful of test
> pressings, and a few posters. Also, a couple of one-off compilation tracks.
> And some recent promo CDs and odd promo items in general. And some old style
> shirts, a few pins, and that sort of thing. Oh, and a Swedish pressing of
> Fegmania!, Underwater Moonlight pressed in NZ, more Japanese vinyl...
> It is a good thing I'm not obsessive...
> Marc

It's very awesome to see such things being discussed here, beyond my
ken as they may be. SOCD.

- -Rex

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:07:08 -0800
From: Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: attn: Linguistics Division

On 11/14/07, lep <softboygirl@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi FegList,
>
> I know for a fact that some of you have mastered the mother tongue,
> and I was wondering about something.
>
> I went on a Liz Phair jag a few weeks back (it was kind of nice
> because I had forgotten how much I really do like ``Whip-Smart'.')
> Every once in awhile, I ask someone about this, but I've never gotten
> much of an answer (maybe there isn't one.) (....since it couldn't
> possibly be that they just didn't much give a frack.)
>
> On (I think it's) the title song, she says:
>
> ``I'm gonna tell my son to grow up pretty as the grass is green
>   And whip-smart as the English Channel's wide''
>
> The construction of that has always kind of fascinated me, and I've
> wondered whether there's a formal name for it.  I mean, I know it's a
> metaphor, but it's kind of odd because it sets up a metaphor between
> two relationships instead of between two things (and, on top of that,
> the relationships are a bit odd; I guess that the grass is indeed
> green, but as far as the English Channel being wide - that seems like
> kind of a toss up.)

Well, there's an interesting sentence diagram to be made out of "When
they do the double dutch that's them dancing" as well, unless I've
misheard that for all these years.  That's the song that pushes that
album over the line from shakey to great, for my money.

- -Rex

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:12:18 +0000
From: Michael Sweeney <m_l_sweeney@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: The box set?

Rex wrote:> On 11/14/07, Michael Sweeney <m_l_sweeney@hotmail.com> wrote:> > >
And, as I've long maintained, first, second, last, whatever -- Greedo just> >
plain needed shooting...> > Ooda booda, Sweeney?> > Fucker's name was
"Greedo". Not much to add.


...Uh, "word," I guess?


Michael "You darn kids, with your vernacular and blasters and all!" Sweeney
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:41:50 +0000
From: Michael Sweeney <m_l_sweeney@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Robyn covering Zep?

Tom Clark strolled out of Subway, tossed the ducks some Sun Chips, and wrote:
 >Has Robyn ever covered a Zeppelin song? I was listening to In Through The
Out Door last night and thought he would do a great "All of My Love",
especially if his more famous neighbor accompanied him.<


I can't cite exactly where from, but I explicitly recall an interview in the
last 10, 12 years, where the interviewer compared (IIRC) "Old Pervert" with
"The Immigrant Song" (the vaguely similar rolling rhythm, I suppose)...and
Robyn replied with a laugh, saying something like, "I can confidently say that
I have never been influenced by Led Zeppelin."

Between that and the eye-rolling slag at them at the end of "1974" ("oh,
christ"), I've wondered about A) if the (perceived) insults are indeed meant
to be so, and, B) if so, does JPJ know / care?  (frankly, the first question
interests me only somewhat..and yet, infinitely more than the second...)


Michael "Hanging around under the bridge" Sweeney
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:04:35 +0000
From: Michael Sweeney <m_l_sweeney@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Unearthed rare Soft Boys issue?

Lauren said:

>I haven't actually contributed any information to thethread as far as your
question (I like to think that I contribute inmy ``special'' way (if you try
hard, you can imagine that randompersonal anecdotes are a form of artistic
expression instead of a formof self-preoccupation.))<


...If I didn't believe so, I'm not sure I'd even have the energy to get out of
bed in the morning (not that I even seem to most mornings, anyway -- middle
age apparently ain't for sissies, either...)


Michael "Sadly, most days, I feel the way Grady from 'Sanford and Son'
looked..." Sweeney
_________________________________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:25:12 +0000
From: Michael Sweeney <m_l_sweeney@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and my "pooper-scooper" is all drooper-drooper :(

Rex wrote:

>And dammit, there it is, the meme I couldn't recall earlier
today--"douchebag". When and how did that regain cultural currency?<


Det. Andy Sipowicz, "NYPD Blue," 1993-2005.


Michael "Hey 'ipsa' THIS, you pissy little bitch" Sweeney
_________________________________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:30:07 -0000
From: "Edward of Sim" <edwardofsim@tiscali.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Robyn covering Zep?

From: "Michael Sweeney" <m_l_sweeney@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Robyn covering Zep?


> Tom Clark strolled out of Subway, tossed the ducks some Sun Chips, and 
> wrote:
> >Has Robyn ever covered a Zeppelin song? I was listening to In Through The
> Out Door last night and thought he would do a great "All of My Love",
> especially if his more famous neighbor accompanied him.<
>
>
> I can't cite exactly where from, but I explicitly recall an interview in 
> the
> last 10, 12 years, where the interviewer compared (IIRC) "Old Pervert" 
> with
> "The Immigrant Song" (the vaguely similar rolling rhythm, I suppose)...and
> Robyn replied with a laugh, saying something like, "I can confidently say 
> that
> I have never been influenced by Led Zeppelin."
>
> Between that and the eye-rolling slag at them at the end of "1974" ("oh,
> christ"), I've wondered about A) if the (perceived) insults are indeed 
> meant
> to be so, and, B) if so, does JPJ know / care?  (frankly, the first 
> question
> interests me only somewhat..and yet, infinitely more than the second...)

I remember that interview too, and the interviewer was comparing the intro 
to "Man With the Lightbulb Head" to the intro from "The Immigrant Song", and 
Robyn replied more or less exactly as you quote.

The weird thing I noticed a few years later -- and sadly lot's of my stuff's 
in storage, so I can't look it up exactly -- there's a story in the Zep box 
set about the origins of the title of "Braun-Y-Aur Stomp" (sp), and there's 
an almost identical story from Robyn on a Can Of Bees CD release, for a 
"lost track" called something like (IIRC) "Bom M'Tenko Stomp". The titles 
and stories seemed too similar to be coincidental.

Oh, and as a related aside, under the 'Robyn Covered' subject, how about Zep 
doing 'The Asking Tree'??

Okay, I know, I'm supposed to be lurking.

peace,
Edward
- -----
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my virtual band: http://www.myspace.com/virgintwintunes
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 06:58:49 -0500
From: "Stewart Russell" <scruss@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Robyn's blue Tele stolen in Toronto

Apparently it was stolen Tuesday night, somewhere in Toronto. He
managed to borrow a black Tele from Stephen Paige of Barenaked Ladies.
I noticed he wasn't playing his Fylde acoustic, but rather a
small-bodied (almost parlour-sized) guitar - so I'm suspecting the
Fylde's gone too.

Didn't stick around for the signing to find out more (just made the
last train). Hadn't Robyn had that Tele since Soft Boys days?

Good - nay, great - show despite this. All the old family favourites.

 Stewart

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:06:41 +0100
From: Sebastian Hagedorn <Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de>
Subject: Re: attn: Linguistics Division

- --On 15. November 2007 02:54:12 -0500 lep <softboygirl@gmail.com> wrote:

> Actually, the lines remind me of those SAT (U.S. standardized
> college-entrance test) questions where they ask:
>
> ``<some word you don't know> is to <some other word you don't know> as:
>
> (a) <some other word you don't know> is to <still some other word you
> don't know>,
> (b) <some other word you don't know> is to <aother word you don't know>,
> (c) <some other word you don't know> is to <yet another word you don't
> know>, (d) <some other word you don't know> is to <some word that *maybe*
> you heard once or twice?>.''

The SAT questions aren't actually that hard, are they? There was a time 
when I considered studying at a university in the US, so I took the test. 
OK, I did it just for kicks and at home, which means less pressure, but I 
did it under real conditions, i.e. I didn't give myself more time or 
anything. I don't remember the exact score, but I certainly did OK. I think 
the language part was where I was worst, which isn't much of a surprise. 
Still it didn't strike me as terribly difficult in itself, just pretty 
difficult for someone for whom English is only the second language.

BTW, that must've been in the early 90s. The new test would probably have 
been more difficult for me.

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:22:04 -0500
From: "Bachman, Michael" <Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com>
Subject: RE: My name is

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On
Behalf Of lep
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 7:02 PM
To: a sweet little cupcake...baked by the devil!
Subject: Re: My name is

kevin <kevinstudyvin@earthlink.net> says:

>> I laughed my ass off at Intolerable Cruelty (enormous George Clooney
fan).

Lauren came back with:
>Later, perhaps "Miller's Crossing", but I read the Netflix capsule
review, and indications are that the plot involves a triple cross, which
would explain why I didn't like it when I saw it the first time.  I
never like any movie that involves a triple cross. Especially with
mobsters.  Not only do I fail to ever understand any form of the triple
cross, but all the matching grey suits and short, dark haircuts in a mob
/ triple cross movie just make for total chaos.  Sad but true.

>As an aside, it occurred to me that one of the reasons the triple cross
perplexes me is that there seems something vaguely not right about the
degree of three attached to it.  It's more like two double crosses,
isn't it?  Or something.  I mean, the triple cross isn't related to the
double cross in the same way that x^3 >is related to x^2?  Oh, wait
don't tell me:  I'm overthinking the problem.  What else is new.

I just bought the book Hammett, which is a collection of 5 of his novels
including "The Glass Key" which the Coens used for much of "Miller's
Crossing" as previously noted in a post from a week or so ago by another
feg.
I wonder if the triple cross is in "The Glass Key" as well? 

I love the improved sound of the IODOT disc from the Backwards box.
Having never bought the Rhino version, my only experience of IODOT was a
1980's cd version on Glass Fish. BSDR from the Backwards box is next on
the listening agenda. I never bought the Rhino version of BSDR either,
so I hope I'm in for another similar sonic leap of listening pleasure.

Michael B.

NP Neutral Milk Hotel - In The Aeroplane Over The Sea.

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:37:27 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
From: kevin <kevinstudyvin@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: attn: Linguistics Division

>I know for a fact that some of you have mastered the mother tongue,
>and I was wondering about something.

Let's leave my mother out of this, OK?

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:41:07 -0500
From: "Bachman, Michael" <Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com>
Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V16 #396

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On
Behalf Of kevin
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 7:42 PM
To: grutness@slingshot.co.nz; fegmaniax@smoe.org
Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #396

>>As to who should cover "The president", as asked in an earlier post, 
>>Steve Earle could do a good, heartfelt countrified version...

Kevin came back with:
>Dude.  Nick Cave.  Sepulchral, bitter, but still having fun with it.  I
mean yes, Steve Earle, but I instantly associated that to Cave and now
I'm more or less stuck in that position.

Nick would be a good choice for "The Leopard" as well. 
How about Tom Waits covering "Bass"?

Michael B.

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 05:42:45 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
From: kevin <kevinstudyvin@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Robyn's blue Tele stolen in Toronto

>Hadn't Robyn had that Tele since Soft Boys days?

What a crappy news item to start the day on.  Some people just need boiling in oil, apparently.

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:13:34 -0500
From: "Bachman, Michael" <Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com>
Subject: RE: Robyn's blue Tele stolen in Toronto

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On
Behalf Of kevin
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 8:43 AM
To: Stewart Russell; The luxurious hairdo of Sean Nelson
Subject: Re: Robyn's blue Tele stolen in Toronto

>>Hadn't Robyn had that Tele since Soft Boys days?

Kevin:
>What a crappy news item to start the day on.  Some people just need
boiling in oil, apparently.

Or used as shark bait. Didn't Neil Young have his black Les Paul stolen
and returned to him after a dozen years or so? Maybe there is hope for
Robyn's blue Tele? Robyn used a blue Tele during the 2001-2003 SB's
shows. I don't know if it goes back to the original SB days.

Michael B.

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:14:12 -0500
From: "Bachman, Michael" <Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com>
Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V16 #396

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On
Behalf Of Rex
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 7:44 PM
To: grutness@slingshot.co.nz
Cc: fegmaniax@smoe.org
Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #396

On 11/14/07, grutness@slingshot.co.nz <grutness@slingshot.co.nz> wrote:
> >
>>
>> As to who should cover "The president", as asked in an earlier post, 
>> Steve Earle could do a good, heartfelt countrified version...

Rex:
>Good call.  Wouldn't even have to be that countrified.  The stuff he
did with the Supersuckers, 
>and on that one album ("Jerusalem"?) what had Will Rigby on it and half
the songs resembled
>"Revolver" outtakes don't 


How about Tom Waits covering "Bass"?

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:26:50 -0500
From: Steve Talkowski <stevetalkowski@mac.com>
Subject: Re: My name is

On Nov 14, 2007, at 8:04 PM, Tom Clark wrote:

> They positively gush over "No Country For Old Men"

So did A.O. Scott of the NY Times. It was like an orgasm in text form,  
his review.

Saw it last Friday night and it really is an immersive film.   Javier  
Bardem's performance is stunning and a joy to watch.


- -Steve

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:03:02 -0600
From: "Gene Hopstetter Jr." <gene@hopstetter.com>
Subject: Re: saxful "Man"

> From: Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>
>
> But the saxful "Man" exists only on the ancient pre-Rhino CD of BSDR.

It's also on the Armageddon (or maybe it's the Aftermath) LP and the  
Armageddon 7".  I got 'em both at home.

Robyn told me, via Yep Roc's Steve Gardner, that "The saxophones  
disappeared and could not be found anywhere. It's the original mix  
from 1980, pre-saxophones [that's on the reissued BSDR]."

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:14:40 -0800 (PST)
From: xx <hbrtv219@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: d'oh

I'd really like to, but the tape I was referring to is
the video master in our vault at work.  Technically,
it is stealing, and I've known a few people that were
actually arrested by the FBI for taking things home.

Your best bet is to rent 'Rise' and pull the audio off
the closing credits.  I do things like that at home.

I like the song, but cannot do anything, in good
conscience, at work.


- -griffith


- --- Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Man, I did some work on the movie "Rise:  Blood
> > Hunter".  It is that Lucy Liu vampire move, which
> > features the Robyn Hitchcock & The Venus Three
> track
> > over the closing credits.
> >
> > I just grabbed the tape to check it out.  The song
> is
> > called "You Cut Me Loose".  It is credited to
> "Robyn
> > Hitchcock and The Venus Three".
> >
> > Is this song available anywhere else?
> 
> 
> And if not, can you, with your tape that you just
> checked out, make it so?
> 
> -Rex
> 



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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:34:07 -0500
From: lep <softboygirl@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: attn: Linguistics Division

Sebastian <Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de> says:

re: the SAT test:

> Still it didn't strike me as terribly difficult in itself, just pretty
> difficult for someone for whom English is only the second language.

Well, we all have our ``skills.''

My favourite story regarding this sort of thing is that my physics
friend from my old job told me that at some point when he entered
Penn's Ph.D. program, he found out that, until the Penn people had met
him in person, they had assumed, based on his entrance exam results,
that he wasn't a native English speaker (he then explained to him that
he was, indeed, raised in South Philly.)

But, sheesh, he's good with the equations.

as ever,
Lauren

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- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"People with opinions just go around bothering one another."

                   - The Buddha

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:40:44 -0500
From: "Bachman, Michael" <Michael.Bachman@fanucrobotics.com>
Subject: RE: saxful "Man"

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On
Behalf Of Gene Hopstetter Jr.
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 10:03 AM
To: fegmaniax@smoe.org
Subject: Re: saxful "Man"

> From: Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>

Gene came prancing back with:
> But the saxful "Man" exists only on the ancient pre-Rhino CD of BSDR.

>It's also on the Armageddon (or maybe it's the Aftermath) LP and the
Armageddon 7".  I got 'em both at home.

That would be the Aftermath CD, which I paid big bucks for back 19-20
years ago. Robyn signed my CD insert of it three years ago at The
Beechland in Cleveland. I never did get the Rhino CD of BSDR. I might
start picking up some of the Rhino CD's if they are reasonably priced
and in good shape.

Michael B.

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:42:30 -0800
From: Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Robyn covering Zep?

On 11/15/07, Michael Sweeney <m_l_sweeney@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Between that and the eye-rolling slag at them at the end of "1974" ("oh,
> christ"),


Zep reference aside, that's just one of the best endings a song has ever
had.


 I've wondered about A) if the (perceived) insults are indeed meant
> to be so, and, B) if so, does JPJ know / care?


Maybe Robyn's only into the stuff he did with Diamanda Galas...

- -Rex

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:56:07 -0800
From: Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Robyn's blue Tele stolen in Toronto

On 11/15/07, Stewart Russell <scruss@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Apparently it was stolen Tuesday night, somewhere in Toronto. He
> managed to borrow a black Tele from Stephen Paige of Barenaked Ladies.
> I noticed he wasn't playing his Fylde acoustic, but rather a
> small-bodied (almost parlour-sized) guitar - so I'm suspecting the
> Fylde's gone too.


Blech.

Didn't stick around for the signing to find out more (just made the
> last train). Hadn't Robyn had that Tele since Soft Boys days?


Certainly since EOL... that one or an identical one.  I remember an
interview from the '80's (which is our theme for this week) circa GOF, maybe
in Creem,  where he referred to a "Telecaster copy", and I was a little
mystified by that... it's a real Tele, right?  I think that was the first
interview I ever read with him: part of it was conducted in an aquarium (a
building, not an actual water-filled tank) and he talked about playing most
of the guitar on the record clean, while at the same time kind of poking fun
at the idea that it was some kind of purism to do so... "It's not like God
handed Adam a Telecaster and said 'Thou shalt not use a harmonizer'" or
something like that.  I was pretty sure I liked Robyn at that point.


>
> c'mon, Rex. Violence only fuels violence. "Violence Grows" as the band
> Fatal Microbes sang.
>

So, if I wanna fight then I'm just dying to get killed?

- -Rex

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:57:57 -0800
From: Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: d'oh

On 11/15/07, xx <hbrtv219@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I'd really like to, but the tape I was referring to is
> the video master in our vault at work.  Technically,
> it is stealing, and I've known a few people that were
> actually arrested by the FBI for taking things home.


Do I, like, work with you or something?  Sounds pretty much like my gig.

Thanks!

- -Rex

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:09:58 +0000
From: Michael Sweeney <m_l_sweeney@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Robyn @The AV Club

Tom Clark wrote:>...First off, I thought I made it clear that I have come full
circle on  the whole Peter Buck thing.  As it turns out he's just a shy, nice
guy  - - like me!  We are actually more alike than different, except that
he's an international rock star and I'm a half assed engineering  manager
whose hobbies include drinking bourbon and downloading porn.<


...Well, in THAT case, substitute "engineering manager" with "writer," and Tom
Clark and _I_ could be the same guy (exceptin' for my superior record thus far
in Fantasy Football...)


Michael "Don't know why I waited that long -- 3 digests -- to take a swing at
that slow one over the plate..." Sweeney
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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:05:55 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
From: kevin <kevinstudyvin@earthlink.net>
Subject: RE: My name is

>>As an aside, it occurred to me that one of the reasons the triple cross
>perplexes me is that there seems something vaguely not right about the
>degree of three attached to it.  It's more like two double crosses,
>isn't it?  Or something.  I mean, the triple cross isn't related to the
>double cross in the same way that x^3 >is related to x^2?  Oh, wait
>don't tell me:  I'm overthinking the problem.  What else is new.

I think the relation is recursive as opposed to exponential.  Or something. 

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:24:59 +0000
From: Michael Sweeney <m_l_sweeney@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Robyn covering Zep?

3 responses for the price of one...

First of all, me write (pretty someday), re: Robyn covering Zep:


>I can't cite exactly where from, but I explicitly recall an interview in the
last 10, 12 years, where the interviewer compared (IIRC) "Old Pervert" with
"The Immigrant Song" (the vaguely similar rolling rhythm, I suppose)...and
Robyn replied with a laugh, saying something like, "I can confidently say that
I have never been influenced by Led Zeppelin."   Between that and the
eye-rolling slag at them at the end of "1974" ("oh, christ"), I've wondered
about A) if the (perceived) insults are indeed meant to be so, and, B) if so,
does JPJ know / care?  (frankly, the first question interests me only
somewhat..and yet, infinitely more than the second...)<

Edward of Sim responded:

>I remember that interview too, and the interviewer was comparing the intro to
"Man With the Lightbulb Head" to the intro from "The Immigrant Song", and
Robyn replied more or less exactly as you quote.<


Ah, thanks for the redirect...yep, that sounds about right.


>The weird thing I noticed a few years later -- and sadly lot's of my stuff's
in storage, so I can't look it up exactly -- there's a story in the Zep box
set about the origins of the title of "Braun-Y-Aur Stomp" (sp), and there's an
almost identical story from Robyn on a Can Of Bees CD release, for a "lost
track" called something like (IIRC) "Bom M'Tenko Stomp". The titles and
stories seemed too similar to be coincidental.<

Piss-taking parody, perhaps?


HwyCDRrev added:

>at a show - not that long ago (either New England or NY area)
Robyn said - after performing "1974" --
he wasn't slagging The Zep -
in fact he had JPJ over to his house
could be revisionist history though<


Thanks...could be correction of the perception, as well...


...and Rex said (re: John Paul Jones):

>Maybe Robyn's only into the stuff he did with Diamanda Galas...<


...Ah, yes, but, don't forget, Galas protects you but Galas can shatter...


Michael "[ducking pun-inspired brick-bats]" Sweeney

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Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:42:18 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
From: kevin <kevinstudyvin@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Unearthed rare Soft Boys issue?

>I'm pretty sure ``Can of Bees'' was the first Soft Boys thing I
>bought.  

Same here but it was the Ryko CD.  Promptly went into obsessive mode and played "The Human Music" about thirty-four times until I was instructed to stop.  Took it down to the thea-tah where I was doing sound in those days and deeply offended one of the actresses who suggested that I not put "Ugly Nora" out over the PA again if I didn't want the CD shoved somewhere painful.

>P.S.  If there's any way Kevin made it this far, I've been meaning to
>ask you if you've heard the new P.J. Harvey album, and if so, how's
>it?  I mean to pick up a copy in the not-too-distant future.

Haven't heard it.  Waiting for the library to get it to me - that's where I check out most of the new sounds these days.  Fortunately the county library system is very well-funded and has an excellent collection, although of course there's the traditional pilferage problem.  

I'd like to administer the same treatment to library thieves that will hopefully be meted out to the citizen in T.O. with the nice new blue Tele.  Maybe we should put Sonic Youth on the case - they got most of their stolen stuff back last year, didn't they?

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