From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #386 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, November 3 2007 Volume 16 : Number 386 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: The New Fall Season [kevin ] Re: The New Fall Season [2fs ] Re: The New Fall Season [kevin ] Mulder & Scully Reunion [Steve Schiavo ] Re: The New Fall Season [lep ] Re: The New Fall Season [Rex ] Re: The New Fall Season [2fs ] Re: The New Fall Season [Tom Clark ] Re: The New Fall Season ["Stacked Crooked" ] Re: lolcat? [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Waffles [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Waffles [kevin ] Re: The New Fall Season [kevin ] Re: Waffles [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: The New Fall Season [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: The Buffy Thread Still Lives (You Can't Kill It 'Cause It's Already Dead) [lep ] Re: Waffles ["Stewart Russell" ] Re: The Buffy Thread Still Lives (You Can't Kill It 'Cause It's Already Dead) [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: The Buffy Thread Still Lives (You Can't Kill It 'Cause It's Already Dead) [2fs ] RE: Where Are All The Great Beatles Covers? [Benjamin Lukoff ] Shank Hall 11-2-07 [2fs ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 09:40:24 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: The New Fall Season >I can't imagine that I would like them, but they seem to be so >influential that I keep thinking I should read at least one of them anyway Rand's writing is enormously influential on a certain class of painfully earnest young people, most of whom are lucky enough to grow out of it. I was heavily into Anthem and The Fountainhead when I was fourteen but then, suddenly, there was Nietzsche. And Jeff Beck's solo albums. And some things I was introduced to by the bad kids who went to smoke out by the railroad tracks behind the high school. And this green-eyed blonde I met in choir. And somehow Ms Rand wasn't all that interesting any more. np Bowie: Santa Monica Civic 1972. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:53:17 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: The New Fall Season On 11/2/07, Rex wrote: > > > I've avoided Ayn Rand like the plague ever since the College Lit professor > who basically set my book tastes in stone mentioned her by saying > something > like, "That's too much like... oh, who is that woman who wrote that > Fountainhead thing, and who I hate?" The guy was never wrong about > anything. But yeah, her stuff is like the Bible to a certain subset of > people who don't seem to have much in common otherwise, and it's a bit > baffling. I believe that "certain subset of people" would be called "cranks." Anyway, I just heard of this cool musician named Robyn Hitchcock! I'm wondering about some of the decisions on _I Wanna Go Backwards_. For example: I thought I'd read an interview with Robyn recently where he noted that "Agony of Pleasure" in some ways doesn't really fit with the rest of the tracks on _Eye_...and yet, there it is - while "College of Ice" (which, to my ears, fit perfectly) is exiled to the "demoes" disc. And where's "Dancing on God's Thumb"? (Answer: at my website, for now.) When is the download of _GRVYDCY_ supposed to be available? And (more questions) anyone else going to Robyn's show tonight at Shank Hall in Milwaukee? My wife Rose and I will be there. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:03:58 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: The New Fall Season >And where's "Dancing on God's Thumb"? (Answer: at my website, for now.) I know it was one of the bonus tracks on the Rhino Black Snake; has he made it go away now? That'd be a shame... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 13:09:35 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Mulder & Scully Reunion > 'X-Files' Date Set > For Next July > October 31, 2007 > > Fox has confirmed the news that shooting is starting in December on > the second X-Files movie. The release date will be July 25, 2008. > That will put it ten years after the 1998 release of The X-Files, > which grossed $84 million in the U.S. and $189 million worldwide. - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:15:02 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: The New Fall Season kevin says: > Rand's writing is enormously influential on a certain class of painfully earnest young people, most of whom are lucky enough to grow out of it. I was heavily into Anthem and The Fountainhead when I was fourteen but then, suddenly, there was Nietzsche. And Jeff Beck's solo albums. And some things I was introduced to by the bad kids who went to smoke out by the railroad tracks behind the high school. And this green-eyed blonde I met in choir. And somehow Ms Rand wasn't all that interesting any more. her ideas are so very naive that outgrowing them seems like the natural conclusion. but gmail text ads say there's someone out there who wants a "who is john galt?" beer glass: http://www.johngaltgifts.com/index.php well, they say someone is *selling* one. maybe no one wants one. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 11:39:55 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: The New Fall Season On 11/2/07, 2fs wrote: > > But yeah, her stuff is like the Bible to a certain subset of > > people who don't seem to have much in common otherwise, and it's a bit > > baffling. > > > I believe that "certain subset of people" would be called "cranks." But it's often people who aren't that crankery-prone otherwise. Kevin's right about the Earnest Young Folks as well, but there's just not as much of a clear throughline as there is with certain other culty things, including, like, us. Anyway, I just heard of this cool musician named Robyn Hitchcock! Best imitation of MySpace spam to evar appear on fegmaniax. > When is the download of _GRVYDCY_ supposed to be available? Originally in December, as it was announced, although (A) I was never clear on why, and (B) the release date on the box got changed a lot without the DigiDecay release ever being mentioned, so who knows. I sort of fear that it'll be forgotten, but I really hope not. The honest truth is that I've never had a copy of "Groovy Decay" itself in any form, and while I could've easily assembled one from the tracks I do have and listened to it in the proper order before now, I never have. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:17:54 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: The New Fall Season On 11/2/07, Rex wrote: > > > > On 11/2/07, 2fs wrote: > > > > But yeah, her stuff is like the Bible to a certain subset of > > > people who don't seem to have much in common otherwise, and it's a bit > > > > > baffling. > > > > > > I believe that "certain subset of people" would be called "cranks." > > > But it's often people who aren't that crankery-prone otherwise. Kevin's > right about the Earnest Young Folks as well, but there's just not as much of > a clear throughline > Oh, I dunno...Alan Greenspan... as there is with certain other culty things, including, like, us. > > Anyway, I just heard of this cool musician named Robyn Hitchcock! > > > Best imitation of MySpace spam to evar appear on fegmaniax. > Shouldn't I have written "Robin Hitchcock" - or perhaps even "Robin Hytchcock"? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 12:29:26 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: The New Fall Season On Nov 2, 2007, at 9:53 AM, 2fs wrote: > I'm wondering about some of the decisions on _I Wanna Go Backwards_. I appreciate Robyn's liner extensive reflections and liner notes but I've got a particular pet peeve with regard to dates. I can't stand reissues or compilation CDs that are entered into GraceNote with the reissue date instead of the actual dates the tracks were released or recorded. And all Robyn says about the tracks on _Thatcher_ is they were recorded between 1981 and 1985, or something like that. I need specifics! - -tc, back from NYC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:31:52 -0700 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: Re: The New Fall Season not having looked at the subject line, i'd initially assumed that by "our boy", you meant robyn h., and that he was to act in the seven episodes. ah. yes, i do. but not *that* sort of stuff. although i *do* recall seeing, not too terribly long ago, some rooms at the library with IBM selectric typewriters in them (dating myself: the machine on which i learned to type), for, i presume, general use. i don't know if they check them out, though. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 08:37:50 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: lolcat? > >Pheasants? > >A game bird, i.e. something that ostensibly mature adults like to >kill for fun. Don't you guys have an equivalent down there, or is >the whole place overrun with hobbits? ah, okay, okay. I thought it was a typo for... oh, never mind. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:42:33 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Waffles So who likes waffles? Me, personally, they make me squeal like a pig. Seriously, is anybody connected? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 13:34:51 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: Waffles >Seriously, is anybody connected? Connected as in, who can hook you up with The Waffle Man? Up to Lexington, 125, feelin' sick and dirty, more dead than alive? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 13:32:11 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: The New Fall Season >I appreciate Robyn's liner extensive reflections and liner notes but >I've got a particular pet peeve with regard to dates. I can't stand >reissues or compilation CDs that are entered into GraceNote with the >reissue date instead of the actual dates the tracks were released or >recorded. And all Robyn says about the tracks on _Thatcher_ is they >were recorded between 1981 and 1985, or something like that. I need >specifics! > >-tc, back from NYC Maybe your pal Pete can prevail on him to make corrections if you ask him politely. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:42:47 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Waffles - -- kevin is rumored to have mumbled on 2. November 2007 13:34:51 -0700 regarding Re: Waffles: >> Seriously, is anybody connected? > > Connected as in, who can hook you up with The Waffle Man? Up to > Lexington, 125, feelin' sick and dirty, more dead than alive? Yup ;-) I'd hoped they'd be able to pull an mp3sparks, but no such luck. Having been a member in good standing doesn't do me any good now. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 13:29:54 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: The New Fall Season On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, lep wrote: > kevin says: > > Rand's writing is enormously influential on a certain class of painfully earnest young people, most of whom are lucky enough to grow out of it. I was heavily into Anthem and The Fountainhead when I was fourteen but then, suddenly, there was Nietzsche. And Jeff Beck's solo albums. And some things I was introduced to by the bad kids who went to smoke out by the railroad tracks behind the high school. And this green-eyed blonde I met in choir. And somehow Ms Rand wasn't all that interesting any more. > > her ideas are so very naive that outgrowing them seems like the > natural conclusion. I seem to be the opposite of many of you in that I've never read her novels but have read a number of her essays. Or have you all read her essays as well? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:30:24 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: The Buffy Thread Still Lives (You Can't Kill It 'Cause It's Already Dead) jeanne says: > Connor always reminded me of that kid who was in "Escape to Witch Mountain". A fine, > fine film. oh, i am so much wishing i had seen that so i could get your meaning. there's something about conner that i find difficult to articulate. i'm not sure if it's conner the character or the actor who plays him. he's just so - "after school special" earnest. with maybe some young james t. kirk intensity. he's very 1970s, i know that much. i often find myself wondering whether vincent k-whatever was directed to play the character that way, but then he seems rather young to be able to pull off that sort of subtle self-consciousness. > Smile Time may be my favorite episode of Angel. If you haven't already, go read the TWOP > recap - it's brilliant. oh, good idea, see you guys later. as ever, lauren - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:57:39 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: The New Fall Season Ben says: > On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, lep wrote: > > > kevin says: > > > Rand's writing is enormously influential on a certain class of painfully earnest young people, most of whom are lucky enough to grow out of it. I was heavily into Anthem and The Fountainhead when I was fourteen but then, suddenly, there was Nietzsche. And Jeff Beck's solo albums. And some things I was introduced to by the bad kids who went to smoke out by the railroad tracks behind the high school. And this green-eyed blonde I met in choir. And somehow Ms Rand wasn't all that interesting any more. > > > > her ideas are so very naive that outgrowing them seems like the > > natural conclusion. > > I seem to be the opposite of many of you in that I've never read her > novels but have read a number of her essays. Or have you all read her > essays as well? i haven't. i've always figured that she's got to have been a better essayist than fiction writer. reading her novels makes it pretty clear that she should stick to fairly abstract ideas and skip the fictional "object lessons". in the two books i've read, (well, 1 and 1000/1050ths books), she just has this one central idea that she keeps hitting you over the head with, but not with a concise, philosophical argument, but instead with characters who just keep doing things, and talking, and doing other things, and giving speeches, and talking - sometimes for hundreds of pages. as ever, lauren - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:59:52 -0400 From: "Stewart Russell" Subject: Re: Waffles Dude, we can bring on the sticky with some fine Canadian Maple Syrup. Gums up the NeckBeard a treat. Stewart - - about to leave Richmond bc On 11/2/07, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > So who likes waffles? Me, personally, they make me squeal like a pig. > > Seriously, is anybody connected? > - -- http://scruss.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2007 23:17:13 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: The Buffy Thread Still Lives (You Can't Kill It 'Cause It's Already Dead) - -- lep is rumored to have mumbled on 2. November 2007 17:30:24 -0400 regarding Re: The Buffy Thread Still Lives (You Can't Kill It 'Cause It's Already Dead): > there's something about conner that i find difficult to articulate. > i'm not sure if it's conner the character or the actor who plays him. > he's just so - "after school special" earnest. with maybe some young > james t. kirk intensity. he's very 1970s, i know that much. i often > find myself wondering whether vincent k-whatever was directed to play > the character that way, but then he seems rather young to be able to > pull off that sort of subtle self-consciousness. He's also in "Mad Men". His role is very different, of course, but that trait shows there too, I think. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:30:25 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Rand On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, lep wrote: > Ben says: > > On Fri, 2 Nov 2007, lep wrote: > > > > > kevin says: > > > > Rand's writing is enormously influential on a certain class of painfully earnest young people, most of whom are lucky enough to grow out of it. I was heavily into Anthem and The Fountainhead when I was fourteen but then, suddenly, there was Nietzsche. And Jeff Beck's solo albums. And some things I was introduced to by the bad kids who went to smoke out by the railroad tracks behind the high school. And this green-eyed blonde I met in choir. And somehow Ms Rand wasn't all that interesting any more. > > > > > > her ideas are so very naive that outgrowing them seems like the > > > natural conclusion. > > > > I seem to be the opposite of many of you in that I've never read her > > novels but have read a number of her essays. Or have you all read her > > essays as well? > > i haven't. i've always figured that she's got to have been a better > essayist than fiction writer. reading her novels makes it pretty > clear that she should stick to fairly abstract ideas and skip the > fictional "object lessons". in the two books i've read, (well, 1 and > 1000/1050ths books), she just has this one central idea that she > keeps hitting you over the head with, but not with a concise, > philosophical argument, but instead with characters who just keep > doing things, and talking, and doing other things, and giving > speeches, and talking - sometimes for hundreds of pages. Yeah...that was my impression, and why I've always been afraid to read those novels :) I do recommend http://www.amazon.com/Virtue-Selfishness-Ayn-Rand/dp/0451163931 if you're interested in reading her essays--they're flawed in many ways but they will make you think. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:42:59 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: The Buffy Thread Still Lives (You Can't Kill It 'Cause It's Already Dead) On Nov 2, 2007 5:17 PM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > - > > > there's something about conner that i find difficult to articulate. > > i'm not sure if it's conner the character or the actor who plays him. > > he's just so - "after school special" earnest. with maybe some young > > james t. kirk intensity. he's very 1970s, i know that much. > Part of that's his very-70s hair. I do think that earnestness is part of the character - that is, he' s *playing* earnest. He often is acting, trying to come across as something he's not (which is why the audience is uncertain exactly what kind of character he is for quite a while). - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:42:58 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: RE: Where Are All The Great Beatles Covers? Wow, cool :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcY8OF7q5bc On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, David Stovall wrote: > Oooooooooooohhhhhkay - top-posting since the precedent has been set,.... > > Marc Ribot's glorious, hilarious instrumental cover of "While My > Guitar Gently Weeps" (on his first(?) album, _Rootles Cosmopolitans_) > is one of my favorites. > > Steve Hillage did a credible version of "It's All Too Much" - which is > one of my favorite Beatles songs, anyway. > > And I have a compilation disc of various NY artists doing Beatles > covers, at the Knitting Factory (on their Knitting Factory Works > label, I think). Pretty cool stuff on that. > > And Mike Keneally did a cover of "And Your Bird Can Sing" at a Taylor > guitar clinic, playing both lead guitar lines at the same time, on the > same guitar. Not available commercially, but tape-trader video > exists. > > d9 > > > From: "Bachman, Michael" > > Subject: RE: Where Are All The Great Beatles Covers? > > > > Wilson Pickett (with help from Duane Allman) did a very tasty version of > > "Hey Jude". > > > > - -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On > > Behalf Of Benjamin Lukoff > > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 6:21 PM > > To: HwyCDRrev@aol.com > > Cc: fegmaniax@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: Where Are All The Great Beatles Covers? > > > > On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 HwyCDRrev@aol.com wrote: > > > > > The Soft Boys: "I Wanna Destroy You" > > > Never have the bright cheery harmonies been scarier. > > > _http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/10/14/231124.php_ > > > (http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/10/14/231124.php) > > > > Hmm...as I think I might have mentioned here (or was it Audities?) I > > thought "Across the Universe" was pretty freaking awful as a movie, > > though the music wasn't terrible. I just saw the Bee Gees/Frampton "Sgt. > > Pepper" > > movie the other night and that IS bad (with the exception of the last 15 > > minutes or so--Billy Preston rules, and so does Carol Channing, Bonnie > > Raitt, Donovan, Ann & Nancy Wilson, et al. doing a disco version of the > > title song. In fact, it's so bad it's painful. Definitely NOT so bad > > it's good. > > > > Stevie Wonder's "We Can Work It Out" might surpass the original, as > > might Joe Cocker's "With a Little Help from My Friends." > > > > I think this steel-guitar cover of "Flying" on one of the > > rec.music.beatles tribute albums I participated on surpasses the > > original, too. (I didn't play on "Flying," of course..) > > > > Not sure if I can think of any others. > > > > ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 16:39:52 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: The New Fall Season On 11/2/07, lep wrote: > > > i haven't. i've always figured that she's got to have been a better > essayist than fiction writer. reading her novels makes it pretty > clear that she should stick to fairly abstract ideas and skip the > fictional "object lessons". in the two books i've read, (well, 1 and > 1000/1050ths books), You can tell you're doing a lot of homework with a 4th grader when you see that fraction and feel compelled to reduce it. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:44:15 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: RE: Where Are All The Great Beatles Covers? Not as cool as this, though--wish the resolution were better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghRODy2B5Zo On Thu, 1 Nov 2007, David Stovall wrote: > Oooooooooooohhhhhkay - top-posting since the precedent has been set,.... > > Marc Ribot's glorious, hilarious instrumental cover of "While My > Guitar Gently Weeps" (on his first(?) album, _Rootles Cosmopolitans_) > is one of my favorites. > > Steve Hillage did a credible version of "It's All Too Much" - which is > one of my favorite Beatles songs, anyway. > > And I have a compilation disc of various NY artists doing Beatles > covers, at the Knitting Factory (on their Knitting Factory Works > label, I think). Pretty cool stuff on that. > > And Mike Keneally did a cover of "And Your Bird Can Sing" at a Taylor > guitar clinic, playing both lead guitar lines at the same time, on the > same guitar. Not available commercially, but tape-trader video > exists. > > d9 > > > From: "Bachman, Michael" > > Subject: RE: Where Are All The Great Beatles Covers? > > > > Wilson Pickett (with help from Duane Allman) did a very tasty version of > > "Hey Jude". > > > > - -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On > > Behalf Of Benjamin Lukoff > > Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 6:21 PM > > To: HwyCDRrev@aol.com > > Cc: fegmaniax@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: Where Are All The Great Beatles Covers? > > > > On Thu, 25 Oct 2007 HwyCDRrev@aol.com wrote: > > > > > The Soft Boys: "I Wanna Destroy You" > > > Never have the bright cheery harmonies been scarier. > > > _http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/10/14/231124.php_ > > > (http://blogcritics.org/archives/2007/10/14/231124.php) > > > > Hmm...as I think I might have mentioned here (or was it Audities?) I > > thought "Across the Universe" was pretty freaking awful as a movie, > > though the music wasn't terrible. I just saw the Bee Gees/Frampton "Sgt. > > Pepper" > > movie the other night and that IS bad (with the exception of the last 15 > > minutes or so--Billy Preston rules, and so does Carol Channing, Bonnie > > Raitt, Donovan, Ann & Nancy Wilson, et al. doing a disco version of the > > title song. In fact, it's so bad it's painful. Definitely NOT so bad > > it's good. > > > > Stevie Wonder's "We Can Work It Out" might surpass the original, as > > might Joe Cocker's "With a Little Help from My Friends." > > > > I think this steel-guitar cover of "Flying" on one of the > > rec.music.beatles tribute albums I participated on surpasses the > > original, too. (I didn't play on "Flying," of course..) > > > > Not sure if I can think of any others. > > > > ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:47:39 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: Waffles Sebastian says: > So who likes waffles? Me, personally, they make me squeal like a pig. > > Seriously, is anybody connected? is sebastian being silly? regardless, i say to the world (and you know that you are the world): i adore waffles. sadly, they're one of the few things i like but won't eat these days (long story that involves quitting smoking, stomach aches, and my struggle to overcome an apparent inability to implement anything that comes close to a "balanced diet.") nevermind. as ever, lauren p.s. but i do love waffles. that stands. - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 23:42:06 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Shank Hall 11-2-07 Don't know if any other fegs attended. I was tempted to yell out FUCK YOU TOM CLARK, figuring that would be sure to draw the attention of any fegs present...but then I thought, wait, what if there's *another guy named Tom Clark*, and he's at the show having just escaped from prison where he was serving life for dismembering some guy who gave him the finger? I thought - bad idea. Anyway, Sean Nelson opened up with a brief set, just him and piano. He said he had a cold - I believe it, because his voice was just a touch on the nasally side. I didn't recognize any of the songs - but then, I don't have any of his solo material. We were back at the bar for Nelson's set - all the chairs and tables were occupied - our dinner at the Indian place down the road was a bit slower than expected, so we arrived at about 8:30 or 8:45. But that allowed us a great view of Robyn as he strolled in in a dark coat and purple trousers. I believe he might have been wearing a scarf. It was probably about 50 degrees out, so not scarf-requiring weather - but maybe it just seemed as if he should have one. After a brief interval, Robyn took the stage, playing a rather beat-up looking acoustic (does anyone know what kind of guitar he plays?). The first song, "Ghost Ship," was dedicated to Colin Meloy. Playing was a little rough, with some vibraty strings and a note or two misfretted. The chatting seemed pretty spontaneous tonight - let's see, something about invading land clams from Canada, the invention of the dishwasher (by Edward Dish, of Milwaukee), an enormous column on the dark side of the moon where Roger Waters sits crosslegged wearing aviator glasses, etc. He did "City of Shame" and "Autumn Is Your Last Chance," the second one sandwiched between most of "City of Shame" and a forgotten verse of same (he reprised it later). He broke a string about three songs into the set, forcing a premature move to an electric (white and blue), on which he did "Raymond Chandler Evening" and "The Lizard." Round about this time, I discovered that beer is not fond of 45 degree angles. Here's a hint: if you ever go to a show at Shank Hall (named after the venue in the Spinal Tap movie, not the other way 'round), and you end up leaning against the wall along the right (stage) side of the house, remember, as you're setting your beer down on the convenient ledge, that it has some molding about five inches in that juts out about an inch from the wall - thus, the 45 degree angle upon which my beer glass inadvertently was set. Luckily, my jacket and sweater are easily launderable. I missed some chatting here, as I went into the restroom to wash up a bit. Came back, he was playing "Ole Tarantula." I have this idea I'm missing a song or two - at any rate, he did a song I hadn't heard before, which he introduced by saying it was about Brian Epstein - lyrics included "I'm falling out" and something about "in America." Called Sean Nelson back to sing harmonies, which he did for the rest of the show, and did "Queen Elvis" with a blatting (and, truth to be told, annoying) harmonica bit in the intro. Followed that with a very nice version of "Alright Yeah" with nice harmonies from Nelson. After an interminable tuning bout with his recalcitrant guitar (and I will never be able to tune a guitar again without thinking of amorous swans...), he did "Sometimes a Blonde" (which, thanks to the tuning, I now know is performed with open E tuning). The guitar was never quite in tune (that is, "the two swans ran headlong into the mirror, which is now a mess of feathers and blood," or something to that effect), but close enough for your sort of buzzy resonant open-tuned effect. A short break before an encore, which featured "N.Y. Doll," "Candy Says," and "Adventure Rocket Ship." Too bad the show had to end there, because he was definitely picking up steam near the end: "Candy Says" was heartbreaking (again some credit to Nelson's harmonies), and ARS was positively rousing. Leave 'em wanting more, I guess. Shirt Report: Hard to tell, since he never removed his jacket. It looked to be a multicolored number with largish patterning. Overall, sort of in the 6 or 7 of 10 range. Started off a bit iffy (apparently he was having monitor problems, as well as the guitar being uncooperative), got better as the night wore on. The chats were very good - some of the funniest I've heard him do. Take out the muffed notes of "Ghost Ship" and forgetting parts of "City of Shame," and it'd be one of the best shows of his I've heard, if not quite as energetic as some (of course, the last time I saw him was with the Soft Boys...so I guess that's expected a bit). My attempt at the complete set list follows. If anyone else here was there, tell me what I forgot... Ghost Ship City of Shame Autumn Is Your Last Chance shame reprise Raymond Chandler Evening* The Lizard* Ole Tarantula new one "I'm falling out" ("Brian Epstein movie"?) Queen Elvis** Alright Yeah** Sometimes a Blonde** - -encore- N.Y. Doll* ** Candy Says* ** Adventure Rocket Ship * ** * electric ** with Sean Nelson on harmonies - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #386 ********************************