From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #371 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, October 18 2007 Volume 16 : Number 371 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: An Apple Story* [Tom Clark ] Re: An Apple Story* [FSThomas ] Re: An Apple Story* [FSThomas ] Re: An Apple Story* ["m swedene" ] Re: An Apple Story* [2fs ] Re: An Apple Story* [Tom Clark ] Re: An Apple Story* [2fs ] Re: An Apple Story* [Rex ] Re: An Apple Story* [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: An Apple Story* ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Japan ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: An Apple Story* [Steve Talkowski ] Re: Robyn on Gideon Coe ["Gene Hopstetter Jr." ] Re: Robyn on Gideon Coe [Tom Clark ] Re: An Apple Story* [kevin ] Reap [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: An Apple Story* [kevin ] Re: An Apple Story* [Rex ] REAP [Tom Clark ] RE: REAP ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: An Apple Story* [Carrie Galbraith ] Re: An Apple Story* [Eric Loehr ] Re: Robyn on Gideon Coe ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: An Apple Story* [Steve Schiavo ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:38:27 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: An Apple Story* On Oct 17, 2007, at 5:00 PM, Rex wrote: > So what is everyfeg, and everyfegs' children, going as for > Halloween? I'm > not going trick-or-treating with any of the kids this year, so I'm > happily > bagging the idea of dressing up for the first time in, what, fourteen > years? But I could still go for some vicarious costumery. For the past six months my daughter has vacillated between Velma (from Scooby-Doo) and one of the Hex Girls (a band from...Scooby- Doo). All it took was one visit to the Halloween store for her to fall in love with the generic kitty cat costume. Problem solved. My wife will be dressing as a suburban MILF, which is her everyday look, natch. I won't be dressing up as I'll be in NYC attending the Halloween version of "Zappa Plays Zappa" at the Beacon Theater. In the past I've been such luminaries John DeLorean and Leon Klinghoffer, but nobody seemed to get it. Question: what is the most obscure Halloween costume you've ever come up with? - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:44:37 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: An Apple Story* Carrie Galbraith wrote: > *That is unfortunately true... > (Warning, long rant ahead - ignore at your leisure) > > On september 10th I took my Powerbook to the Apple Store because of a video card/logic board failure... And here I am on the verge of buying a PowerBook. Should I heed this tale of woe or steam ahead? My guilty conscience is forcing me to admit I'm probably going to run Parallel on it so I don't have to buy new copies of my PC-based software (or possibly Boot Camp, which comes free w/Leopard), but I keep telling my conscience that that is so clearly not the point, to just sit down, and finish it's goddamned drink. > ps: Fuck You Tom Clark! I've found myself more than once lately using "FUCK YOU TOM CLARK" as a test message while writing code, but only when something goes right. Wrong messages are typically "FAIL" or something lame to that effect. There's something about typing FUCK YOU TOM CLARK that seems natural; it rolls off the home row, and -- when things are going right -- it makes me smile when I see it. Sorry, Tom. - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:03:01 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: An Apple Story* Tom Clark wrote: > Question: what is the most > obscure Halloween costume you've ever come up with? Obscure, obfuscated, and foolish. Oedipus, played by Brando. I was in college. There were recreational drugs. - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:23:34 -0400 From: "m swedene" Subject: Re: An Apple Story* If you are in NYC, you could swing by my place of business Tekserve. We have a bunch of parts and such. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:20:09 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: An Apple Story* On 10/17/07, Carrie Galbraith wrote: > > *That is unfortunately true... > (Warning, long rant ahead - ignore at your leisure) Unfortunately, any business can fuck up - so I wouldn't necessarily take this as a judgment of Apple generally (or for someone else to not buy a Mac as a result). I remember reading someone's complicated tale of woe on the trouble they had getting their Mini Cooper serviced...which was truly bizarre, because my dealer has been nothing but wonderful from the start. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:25:08 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: An Apple Story* On Oct 17, 2007, at 8:44 PM, FSThomas wrote: > And here I am on the verge of buying a PowerBook. Should I heed this > tale of woe or steam ahead? My guilty conscience is forcing me to > admit > I'm probably going to run Parallel on it so I don't have to buy new > copies of my PC-based software First off, we don't make PowerBooks anymore. You're going to buy a MacBook or a MacBook Pro and you are going to love it. Secondly, you will install VMWare Fusion instead of Parallels because it is better. > >> ps: Fuck You Tom Clark! > > I've found myself more than once lately using "FUCK YOU TOM CLARK" > as a > test message while writing code, but only when something goes right. > Wrong messages are typically "FAIL" or something lame to that effect. > There's something about typing FUCK YOU TOM CLARK that seems > natural; it > rolls off the home row, and -- when things are going right -- it makes > me smile when I see it. > > Sorry, Tom. Wow, this makes me...weep. Let me just take this opportunity to say Fuck You to all of you guys. Really, bros. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:06:49 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: An Apple Story* On 10/17/07, Tom Clark wrote: Question: what is the > most obscure Halloween costume you've ever come up with? I have, unfortunately, made a habit of obscure Halloween costumes. This is not necessarily because I'm such an obscure guy, but because I am (a) lazy and (b) cheap. Item (a) means that I rarely put together any sort of costume at all. (Note: given my appearance, I could simply grow my hair a bit longer, wear a loud Hawaiian-style shirt, and go as Matt Groening.) Item (b) is self-explanatory. Here are three obscure costumes: 1. As a college undergrad, I took a largish cardboard box, like the kind a home appliance might have come in, and painted a nun suit on it. Speaking of Zappa, Zappa fans already know what I went as: yes, it was a nun dressed in "a nun suit painted on some old cardboard boxes." Problem was, it was very hard to actually sit down in the damned thing (design flaw). 2. In the early nineties, I had a friend who had a business salvaging old computer bits and pieces and reassembling them. I acquired a bunch of things from him, a keyboard, a mouse or two, a few circuit boards, etc. I also bought a plastic, pumpkin-shaped candy basket and made it into a mask. So I fitted myself out with all this computer gear, and put the pumpkin-head mask on over my face. My costume? Cyberpumpkin. (Say it out loud...using the folk pronunciation of "pumpkin" as "punkin"...) 3. See my comments above about cheap and lazy? One year, I scrounged around for one of those "dealy-bobber" things, took off whatever was bobbing on the end of the little springy things, rigidified the springy things with a couple of pipe cleaners, attached two cartoon-speech-bubble-shaped bits of foamcore to them, and printed a large quotation mark on each one (so they more or less enclosed my head between them). My costume? Why, I was going as a parody of myself, of course... Somehow, I never get invited back to Halloween parties any more... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com - ---------------- Now playing: The Wrens - Nightswimming ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:19:47 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: An Apple Story* On 10/17/07, 2fs wrote: > On 10/17/07, Tom Clark wrote: > > > Question: what is the > > most obscure Halloween costume you've ever come up with? > > > I have, unfortunately, made a habit of obscure Halloween costumes. Me, too, kind of, and often in tribute to one of the year's REAPS. There was Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer the year Phil Hartman died, and Obi-Wan Kenobi after Alec Guinness (kind of a cheat since I already had the costume from the Ewan MacGregor padawan version the year before, although coincidentally I'd grown a beard in the interrim). Maybe the most obscure, or at least most dated, was 2001, the year of 9/11 and the Capitol Hill Anthrax Scare, I went as "Senator Dashiell"... this was business suit and a gas mask, and involved a routine about how the terrorists weren't going to change the way the senate did business. And hilarity ensued, sort of. One year I had a realy nice "James Mason as Captain Nemo" cosume, and I had the voice and little bits of dialogue down pat... but instead what I ended up saying more often was, "No, I'm not the guy from 'The Ghost and Mrs. Muir!'" Oh, well. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:17:07 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: An Apple Story* Hi Tom, - --On 17. Oktober 2007 21:25:08 -0700 Tom Clark wrote: > Secondly, you will install VMWare Fusion instead of Parallels because it > is better. not to bore the others to tears, but could you elaborate on that? All the reviews I've seen so far said that both have their advantages, e.g. So what is it that makes you prefer VMWare? I already have Parallels (they came out earlier ...), so I guess it would have to be something substantial. Cheers, Sebastian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:58:43 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: An Apple Story* Rex wrote: > > So what is everyfeg, and everyfegs' children, going as for Halloween? Catherine and I will be Hiding, as we now do every year. oh, and Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:58:42 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: Japan I don't know why it took me so long, but I finally bought Tin Drum last month and have been listening to it a lot lately. I just ordered Gentleman Take Polaroids yesterday. Michael B. NP Wayne Shorter - Night Dreams ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:09:19 -0400 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Re: An Apple Story* On Oct 18, 2007, at 12:25 AM, Tom Clark wrote: > On Oct 17, 2007, at 8:44 PM, FSThomas wrote: > >> And here I am on the verge of buying a PowerBook. Should I heed this >> tale of woe or steam ahead? My guilty conscience is forcing me to >> admit >> I'm probably going to run Parallel on it so I don't have to buy new >> copies of my PC-based software > > First off, we don't make PowerBooks anymore. You're going to buy a > MacBook or a MacBook Pro and you are going to love it. Secondly, > you will install VMWare Fusion instead of Parallels because it is > better. Agreed. I just purchased the electronic download after my 30-day trial expired. Btw, i'm on my third Apple laptop. Started with a Titanium 500, currently (still) on a 1st gen MacBook Pro, and have fortunately had no problems with them. Well, except that something's been up with my power supply/battery because the system always shuts off if i accidentally knock off the MagSafe power adapter even though the battery is fully charged. I've been holding off paying a visit to Mr. Swedene just around the corner at Tekserve until i've fully backed up my HD and have the window of opportunity to be w/o a portable for a few days. Tom, if there's any tickets still available, i was thinking about catching that Beacon show on Halloween myself! - -Steve, ready for a new MacPro desktop once Leopard arrives ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:27:23 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter Jr." Subject: Re: Robyn on Gideon Coe > From: "Stewart Russell" > Subject: Robyn on Gideon Coe > > for those who can't dime: Thanks, Stewart. The FLACs sound lovely. And wow, do those songs sound good with the saw accompaniment. It reminds me that good songs are always good. I'm chuffed for the box set. tags: gum warning ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:53:03 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Robyn on Gideon Coe On Oct 18, 2007, at 7:27 AM, Gene Hopstetter Jr. wrote: > I'm chuffed for the box set. I think there's a lotion for that. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:33:52 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: An Apple Story* >Catherine and I will be Hiding, as we now do every year. > >oh, and > Don't know when the last time was we saw an actual trick-r-treater. Not in this century, certainly. "There's no such thing as enough Mr. Pibb" has now attached itself to my mind, sort of like a barnacle. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:10:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Reap Deborah Kerr http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/10/18/entertainment/e074917D76.DTL&tsp=1&type=entertainment "I'm not tempted to write a song about George W. Bush. I couldn't figure out what sort of song I would write. That's the problem: I don't want to satirize George Bush and his puppeteers, I want to vaporize them." -- Tom Lehrer . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:45:32 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: An Apple Story* >>> ps: Fuck You Tom Clark! >> >> I've found myself more than once lately using "FUCK YOU TOM CLARK" >> as a >> test message while writing code, but only when something goes right. >> Wrong messages are typically "FAIL" or something lame to that effect. >> There's something about typing FUCK YOU TOM CLARK that seems >> natural; it >> rolls off the home row, and -- when things are going right -- it makes >> me smile when I see it. >> >> Sorry, Tom. > >Wow, this makes me...weep. Let me just take this opportunity to say >Fuck You to all of you guys. Really, bros. > >-tc I came across an interview with Peter Buck yesterday re: the current REM project and not so much as a mention of Tom Clark. Wouldn't ya know. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:37:10 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: An Apple Story* On 10/18/07, kevin wrote: > >Catherine and I will be Hiding, as we now do every year. > > > >oh, and > >< > http://www.basicinstructions.net/2007/10/how-to-deal-with-trick-or-treaters.html > > > > Don't know when the last time was we saw an actual trick-r-treater. Not > in this century, certainly. It's all about the neighborhood. Nine years or so in Highland Park, not a single trick-or-treater. But the trick-or-treating in my corner of Silver Lake is off the hook, if that's what the kids still say these days... three blocks closed to traffic, tons of decorated houses (industry folks and artists, lots of 'em), and Disneyland-level throngs of kids. Almost sensory overload. My Dumbledore was outnumbered by Harry Potters something like 3:1. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:58:46 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: REAP Joey Bishop, 89. The Rat Pack is officially gone. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:15:13 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: REAP >Joey Bishop, 89. The Rat Pack is officially gone. Regis got his start as Joey's sidekick on The Joey Bishop Show on ABC in the late 60's. Michael B. NP The Very Tall Band - What's Up? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:26:42 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: An Apple Story* - -----Original Message----- >From: Steve Talkowski >Subject: Re: An Apple Story* > >On Oct 18, 2007, at 12:25 AM, Tom Clark wrote: >>> And here I am on the verge of buying a PowerBook. Should I heed this >>> tale of woe or steam ahead? My guilty conscience is forcing me to >>> admit I'm not saying don't buy a mac, just giving my 2 cents and a bit of my bitterness. >Btw, i'm on my third Apple laptop. Started with a Titanium 500, >currently (still) on a 1st gen MacBook Pro, and have fortunately had >no problems with them. I started with a B&W powerbook, then a Pismo, then a tiBook and now the Aluminum Powerbook. Not to mention my Mac Plus, IIci, the Quadras, G3 and G4 desktop systems. I've loved them all. That's why I'm having a hard time with this. And I always smile when I say FYTC. It's a warm fuzzy thing. ;-) - - c ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:37:20 -0400 From: Eric Loehr Subject: Re: An Apple Story* Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > Hi Tom, > > --On 17. Oktober 2007 21:25:08 -0700 Tom Clark wrote: > >> Secondly, you will install VMWare Fusion instead of Parallels because it >> is better. > > not to bore the others to tears, but could you elaborate on that? All > the reviews I've seen so far said that both have their advantages, e.g. > > > > So what is it that makes you prefer VMWare? I already have Parallels > (they came out earlier ...), so I guess it would have to be something > substantial. > > Cheers, Sebastian > I too have Parallels and have the same question as Sebastian; what's better about VMWare? Oh, and FYTC. Eric ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:22:23 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Robyn on Gideon Coe Gene Hopstetter Jr. wrote: > > tags: gum warning Hey, I wasn't kidding. I'd had a couple of pints, seen a good band (Fred Spek's CaMp CoMbO: ), and was lurching home on the wobbly Queen W streetcar from Sorauren, and this gum was just all nasty, all the time. I meant, I was expecting the evil death flavour to fade out, but it actually lasted way longer than any of the official mint. I was >this< close to nasal beer return. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:58:06 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: An Apple Story* On Oct 18, 2007, at 2:26 PM, Carrie Galbraith wrote: > I'm not saying don't buy a mac, just giving my 2 cents and a bit of > my bitterness. I'm sure I'd be peeved as well, but then there's this . - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #371 ********************************