From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #357 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, October 3 2007 Volume 16 : Number 357 Today's Subjects: ----------------- re: My name is "Eb", and...the head of Mantegna / body of Heston combo is waaaaay too big for the su [Michael Swee] Re: My name is "Eb", and I have stipulated that Joe Mantegna is to play the role of "Eb" in the moti [Michael Swee] reap ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Chrome Dreams [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: My name is "Eb", and...the head of Mantegna / body of Heston combo is waaaaay too big for the su [] Re: My name is "Eb", and...the head of Mantegna / body of Heston combo is waaaaay too big for the su [Je] yesterday's news [lep ] Re: billboard article: Hitchcock Clears Archives, Preps New Album [kevin] Re: Chrome Dreams [kevin ] RE: My name is "Eb", and...the head of Mantegna / body of Heston combo is waaaaay too big for the su [Michael Swee] Re: Attention all you steampunk types [lep ] quick add: re: Maggie S. [Michael Sweeney ] notes to some fegs [Jill Brand ] Re: notes to some fegs [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: notes to some fegs ["Stewart C. Russell" ] reap ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Most fegly story of the year (non-crustacean division) [grutness@slin] Two reaps for the price of one [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: billboard article: Hitchcock Clears Archives, Preps New Album [Rex ] Re: Chrome Dreams [Rex ] Re: Most fegly story of the year (non-crustacean division) [Rex ] Re: My name is "Eb", and I have stipulated that Joe Mantegna is to play the role of "Eb" in the motion picture detailing my life's exploits (please do not fail to note, moreover, my further stipulation that while Chuck Heston is to receive top billin [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 07:03:46 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: re: My name is "Eb", and...the head of Mantegna / body of Heston combo is waaaaay too big for the su Eddie wrote: <<[me](and, BTW, "FW" (and "VH" and "VHII") are v. good, but...give me "Womenand Children First")>> Hmm - some slight convergeance, but not much...mine is "W&CF," "I," "FW," "II," "1984," Mariana Trench-like drop-off, "DD" <> ...or, perhaps even more shockingly, from Lisa (at least Marge got to swear a bit in the movie...) Michael "Somebody throw the goddamn bomb!" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 07:17:49 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and I have stipulated that Joe Mantegna is to play the role of "Eb" in the moti Sebastian wrote: >> makes it sweeter.>>>> oh, come on. how can you hate the brazilians? it's one thing to hate> them when you're matched up against them. but otherwise, they play the> game so beautifully that it's an absolute joy to watch them. >>...Most of all, they display such a revolting sense of entitlement that it makes me want to break their legs. It's like whether they're currently the world champions or not, they consider themselves the champions all the time. No humility at all. Ah, I see even Europeans can grok the NY Yankees and much of their fan base! (j/k!) Michael "Wow - Colorado: what an extra-inning comeback! (welcome to the party, pal!)" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 06:04:24 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: reap Ned Sherrin, 76 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 12:41:54 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Chrome Dreams - --On 1. Oktober 2007 21:24:56 -0700 Rex wrote: > On 10/1/07, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: >> I hadn't even yet heard of Chrome Dreams 2, but a little investigation >> brought up this: >> >> Neil Young - Chrome Dreams >> >> The unreleased 1975 album by Neil Young. > > There are a lot of bootleg renditions of it, Ah, I didn't know. I thought your comment regarding the new CD meant that you weren't aware of the story behind the 1975 album. > but I don't think any of > them are definitive. The two I have heard are more or less like the > below, but a lot of the tracks are identical to versions on official, > non-compilation Neil records: "Will to Love" and "Hurricane" and a > few others are on "American Stars & Bars"; the version of "Pocahontas" > is the one on "Rust" minus a few echoey string-scrape overdubs, I've only listened to a few of the tracks so far. "Pocahontas" is really more similar to the RNS version than I had anticipated (and hoped). > whereas "Sedan Delivery" is totally different from its "Rust" version. Yeah, it's half-speed and the lyrics are a little different as well. Interesting. Of course the Feelies increased the speed by another 25% or so ;-) > "Captain Kennedy" is the same as the version on "Hawks & Doves". Really the *same* or just "like"? > The version of "Chrome Dreams" I own in physical form has 15 tracks, > is missing a few of these, and has several other more rare things, > several more common ones, and some other overlaps with real albums. > I'd bet that when CD2 comes out, you'll see a lot more bootlegs of CD1 > being blogged and posited as genuine. Which could be fine. I think > Neil's official position is that the masters for the original album > are "lost", although obviously most of the songs survive in their > original form... and of course two official Neil records remain > unreleased on CD, one of them brilliant. Time Fades Away? - -- b. Sebastian Hagedorn b Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de b' http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 09:38:43 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and...the head of Mantegna / body of Heston combo is waaaaay too big for the su On 10/2/07, Michael Sweeney wrote: > > > shocking f-bomb would be dropped by...who?>> (has > it?) on prime-time network teevee (outsideof the awards shows, or other > live > telecasts), so...marge simpson?> > > ...or, perhaps even more shockingly, from Lisa (at least Marge got to > swear a > bit in the movie...) Oh come on - along these lines the answer is obvious: Maggie. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 09:14:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and...the head of Mantegna / body of Heston combo is waaaaay too big for the su 2fs wrote: > Michael Sweeney wrote: > > > shocking f-bomb would be dropped by...who?>> > > been heard (has it?) on prime-time network teevee (outside of > > > the awards shows, or other live telecasts), so...marge simpson?> > ...or, perhaps even more shockingly, from Lisa (at least Marge > > got to swear a bit in the movie...) Plus, if you're married to Homer or are one of his children, he's cuase you say "oh fuck," at least once. > Oh come on - along these lines the answer is obvious: > > Maggie. In addition to being one of Homer's kids, a baby whose is already a crack sharpshooter is bound to be a good swearer. If we have to stay in Springfield, it's gotta be Ned. And after seeing the clip of her saying "Oh my heck" on The Soup this weekend, I'm definitely sticking with Marie Osmond as the ultimate correct answer. "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 12:31:08 -0400 From: lep Subject: yesterday's news hi fegs, i. for one, still live in a world where there's a new far side cartoon every day. fortunately, my memory's bad and anyway, i laugh at jokes i've already heard. does anyone else have a page-a-day far side calendar? if not: http://home.comcast.net/~ralpal/far-side-01-oct-cropped.jpg that one's a keeper. as ever, lauren - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 10:03:21 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: billboard article: Hitchcock Clears Archives, Preps New Album >Wouldn't "his recordings with the Egyptians during the '80s" be the A&M >material? Well, there's yr Fegmania! & Gotta Let This Hen Out! & then Element Of Light (no exclamation mark), which precede the A&M signing and aren't too shabby... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 10:05:19 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: Chrome Dreams >To make things even more confusing, one of the tracks here, >"Homegrown", is also the *title track* to yet another unreleased, >oft-bootlegged Neil album. > >The version of "Chrome Dreams" I own in physical form has 15 tracks, >is missing a few of these, and has several other more rare things, >several more common ones, and some other overlaps with real albums. >I'd bet that when CD2 comes out, you'll see a lot more bootlegs of CD1 >being blogged and posited as genuine. Which could be fine. I think >Neil's official position is that the masters for the original album >are "lost", although obviously most of the songs survive in their >original form... and of course two official Neil records remain >unreleased on CD, one of them brilliant. > >Ah, the fun and frustration of fandom... Yah, can't wait to see all this stuff released when the Archives set finally comes out, one of these years. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 17:43:26 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: RE: My name is "Eb", and...the head of Mantegna / body of Heston combo is waaaaay too big for the su Jeff wrote: >On 10/2/07, Michael Sweeney wrote: > <> >>>>...or, perhaps even more shockingly, from Lisa (at least Marge got to swear abit in the movie...) >Oh come on - along these lines the answer is obvious:>>Maggie....Well, _so_ obvious, that I considered it and dismissed it. Mitigating factors: Maggie's only said the one word before, so where'd she pick up _that_ one?; doubtful you'd get Liz Taylor (for continuity) to record the historic f-bomb; and Lisa's 20-yr history of gentle, non-confrontational, veggie/peacenik character would make the impact a bit more shocking, I'd say (while, fer instance, if Bart swore, well, that'd be about as shocking as the latest female character on "Californication" ending up naked (even though I v. much like the show, and not just for the nudity)). Michael "This is Tom Hanks saying if you see me in person, please, leave me be" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 13:52:42 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: Attention all you steampunk types kevin says: > which I'd definitely go for except that she-who-must-be-obeyed doesn't always appreciate my sense of humor... a man who knows the secret to a successful marriage (i believe kevin and his wife just celebrated number 25 as proof.) as ever, lauren - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 18:06:40 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: quick add: re: Maggie S. ...OK - I forgot: two words now, after the movie (not counting the "Tracey Ullman" days or non-canon "Treehouse of Terror" eps)..."Daddy" and "Sequel?" MLS _________________________________________________________________ Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 15:22:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: notes to some fegs Sebastian, you at least didn't have to put up with the American coverage. Anytime that "Marta" (I'm getting sick of these Brazilian single names) had the ball for 1 second, the commentators wet themselves with "Oh, look at Marta handle the ball!" Well, half the time she lost the fucking ball. You go, Birgit Prinz!!!! Eddie, your subject lines are making me go blind! JBJ, explain to me exactly what you are looking for on the "O Valencia" single. If I don't have it, I can probably find someone who does. In that my Decemberists passion has been waning of late, I didn't buy this myself, but there are others, there are others.... Tom Clark, I'm sorry, I really am. I hope you are recovering. I really would have rooted for them after the Red Sox. The Yankees are going to win the fucking Series anyway. Wait. Let me re-phrase. The fucking Yankees are going to win the Series anyway. And finally, is anyone else going to see of Montreal anywhere? I just want someone to talk to about it. I'm feeling very isolated (except Stewart has been a sweetheart on this topic). Jill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 12:45:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: notes to some fegs Jill Brand wrote: > Tom Clark, I'm sorry, I really am. I hope you are recovering. The contrast in how Stewart and Colbert addressed that in their show intros last night was amusing: Stewart, the crushed Met fan talking about teaching his 4 year old the Met song (what a piece of crap, btw) Saturday and then having his heart pulled from his chest. Whereas Colbert congratulated them on their record breaking season. > I really would have rooted for them after the Red Sox. The > Yankees are going to win the fucking Series anyway. Wait. Let me > re-phrase. The fucking Yankees are going to win the Series anyway. Nah. The Yanks pitching is pretty damn spotty -- even the pen with the immortal Joba -- and without the extra games to let them get away with a 3 man rotation, Cleveland should get them even with the Joe Boroski atrocity exhibition closing. I'm personally rooting for a Cleveland-Colorado series now, since that is most likely to cause Fox executives to kill themselves in despair over the lack of star power. "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:30:08 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: notes to some fegs Jill Brand wrote: > > And finally, is anyone else going to see of Montreal anywhere? I'm not. They're not playing Canada at all this tour. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:50:13 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: reap Ronnie "Every BBC TV Theme in the 1970s" Hazlehurst, 79. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:24:45 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: Most fegly story of the year (non-crustacean division) >Subject: Most fegly story of the year (non-crustacean division) > > > This one isn't as fegly, but it's another odd one reported on the same day: James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:27:55 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Two reaps for the price of one Ned Sherrin and Ronnie Hazlehurst James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 17:08:37 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: billboard article: Hitchcock Clears Archives, Preps New Album On 10/2/07, kevin wrote: > > >Wouldn't "his recordings with the Egyptians during the '80s" be the A&M > >material? > > Well, there's yr Fegmania! & Gotta Let This Hen Out! & then Element Of > Light (no exclamation mark), which precede the A&M signing and aren't too > shabby... ...and ISTR that the Egyptians box is to consist of exactly those three records, with one rarities disc (which even has a tentative title which currently escapes me). If the box actually contained Fegmania!, Element, Gotta Let This Hen Out, Globe of Frogs, Queen Elvis, and (rarities disc), then it would be the Best Box Set Evar. If it extended to include the other two '90's A&M albums, why, that would rock, too. But I think the A&M thing remains a mystery. Still no clue as to what "Shadowcat" might be? That's meant to be a '90's comp, but unreleased stuff only, right? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 17:18:41 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Chrome Dreams On 10/2/07, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > Ah, I didn't know. I thought your comment regarding the new CD meant that > you weren't aware of the story behind the 1975 album. Yeah, I have a lot of Neil Young records that don't properly exist. I've only listened to a few of the tracks so far. "Pocahontas" is really > more similar to the RNS version than I had anticipated (and hoped). It is, I think, the same performance. The RUST version adds harmonies and ambient noises that sound like string scrapes with a lot of delay on them, but don't trust my dub-addled brain to say for sure (although I do know that, on RUST, the mechanical clacking on "Into the Black" is a studio door being repeatedly slammed, and I also thing that other than that overdub, it's the same performance as on LIVE RUST > whereas "Sedan Delivery" is totally different from its "Rust" version. > > Yeah, it's half-speed and the lyrics are a little different as well. > Interesting. Of course the Feelies increased the speed by another 25% or > so Yeah, that's a cool version. The CHROME version lyrics are different, but some of the guitar solos are the same. He almost definitely says "my wives and I were all choked up" on the CHROME version... I never heard it as plural on RUST, but who knows. Freaky lyrics on that song either way. >Capt. Kennedy >Really the *same* or just "like"? Really the same... I think. I seem to recall lining up all of my versions of that song in iTunes and verifying that all the bootleg studion tracks were the same length as the album one. Could still be different, but all the takes I've heard are just guitar and one vocal. Another great song. >and of course two official Neil records remain > unreleased on CD, one of them brilliant. Time Fades Away? Yep. "Journey Through the Past" is shite. I just downloaded another version of CHROME that more closely matches the specs you found. I'll report back in due time. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 17:20:46 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Chrome Dreams On 10/2/07, kevin wrote: > > > >Ah, the fun and frustration of fandom... > > Yah, can't wait to see all this stuff released when the Archives set > finally comes out, one of these years. Part of me expects to be on my deathbed when a great grandson or somebody bursts into the room with a copy of the just-released ARCHIVES VOLUME 1, too late for me even to begin to listen to it. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 17:26:32 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Most fegly story of the year (non-crustacean division) On 10/1/07, 2fs wrote: > > > Now playing: Tarnation - Little Black > Egghttp://www.foxytunes.com/artist/tarnation/track/little+black+egg That's a good one. Better than The Cars', even, although I dock Paula Fraser a point for not singing "goldurn". - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 17:45:59 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Chrome Dreams On Oct 2, 2007, at 5:20 PM, Rex wrote: > On 10/2/07, kevin wrote: >> >> >>> Ah, the fun and frustration of fandom... >> >> Yah, can't wait to see all this stuff released when the Archives set >> finally comes out, one of these years. > > > Part of me expects to be on my deathbed when a great grandson or > somebody > bursts into the room with a copy of the just-released ARCHIVES > VOLUME 1, too > late for me even to begin to listen to it. I hear ya. I remember reading about this in Rolling Stone sometime around 1989. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 09:05:28 +0100 From: craigie* Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and I have stipulated that Joe Mantegna is to play the role of "Eb" in the motion picture detailing my life's exploits (please do not fail to note, moreover, my further stipulation that while Chuck Heston is to receive top billin When making covers from Vinyl Originals, I scan each side, rotating the cover clock wise and then stitching it together using photoshop. Results are generally very good, and getting better... and I see no reason to quit, after all, I doubt Don Dixon's "Most Of The Girls Like To Dance" is ever being re-issued on CD... c* On 02/10/2007, 2fs wrote: > > On 10/1/07, Rex wrote: > > > > On 10/1/07, Stacked Crooked wrote: > > > > > > > > > hey, speaking of artwork and vinyl, anybody got any ideas for > importing > > > twelve-inchers (mind out of the gutter, eb! -- i'm being serious > > > here)? it > > > appears that, even if one had the kind of money they sell for, > > > large-format > > > scanners can't even accommodate the full 12.4" width (i think there's > > one > > > by epson whose glass is 12.2 inches wide, but it's like forty hundred > > > million dollars and-plus a pint of blood and a large handful of > > nougats). > > > > > > I've wondered about that myself... there certainly are hell of a lot of > > digital reproductions of vinyl sleeves out there, so one wonders if the > > vinyl-digitization-sharity community has some kind of consensus in its > > bylaws as to the "best" method. Probably not, since the quality of > those > > scans varies pretty widely. > > > I would have thought architecture firms would have them - but checking > with > Rose, she says no, the largest they have on premises does 11x17. There are > firms that do this kind of work professionally, who could probably do > it...but would it be cost effective? Uh, no. > > I think if you've got a decent digital camera and good lighting and are > very > careful in making the image, that'll probably get you about the best you > can > do. > > I did that once - the other time I wanted to make a CD cover for digitized > vinyl whose cover I couldn't find, I scanned it in pieces and stitched it > together. It probably would have worked if I'd taken more time and care. > > -- > > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.blogspot.com > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #357 ********************************