From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #354 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, September 30 2007 Volume 16 : Number 354 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Reliving my youth [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Attention all you steampunk types [Tom Clark ] Re: Favourite best band-name: Eric Broome & The Dribblers [Michael Sweene] Re: Guest star vocals [Michael Sweeney ] Re: Favourite best band-name: Eric Broome & The Dribblers [Michael Sweene] Re: Favourite best band-name: Eric Broome & The Dribblers [Michael Sweene] Re: Favourite best band-name: Eric Broome & The Dribblers [Michael Sweene] Patti Smith on BOC [hssmrg@bath.ac.uk] Kind of interesting, a Chamberlin M-300 [Steve Schiavo ] Re: Favourite best band-name: Eric Broome & The Dribblers ["Stacked Crook] Re: Guest star vocals [2fs ] Re: Favourite best band-name: Eric Broome & The Dribblers [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Patti Smith on BOC [hssmrg@bath.ac.uk] NEW ON DiME (DVD) : Robyn Hitchcock and John Paul Jones Modigliana Piazza [HwyCDRrev@aol] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 16:42:39 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Reliving my youth Hi, I'm on a mission to get some music that I used to listen to as a teenager but kind of lost over the years. I still *have* most of it, but only on tape or vinyl. Vinyl would be OK, but the tapes have deteriorated so much that they're not much use anymore. So I already dl'ed some strange stuff today, e.g. two Iron Maiden records (Number Of The Beast and Piece Of Mind), some Aztec Camera (better than I remembered!) etc. But some things just don't seem to exist. I had this one song on tape that I remember as being great: "Knowing From Today" by Sideway Look I'm not alone in my appreciation: But there's neither an allmusic.com nor a Wikipedia entry for the band. Does anybody know or even have the record or could point me to a blog that has it? Stewart? They're supposed to be a Scottish quintet, after all :-) As reward I can offer an invitation to oink.cd, if that's of interest. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 10:10:26 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Attention all you steampunk types On Sep 28, 2007, at 5:00 PM, Rex wrote: > Nice. Maybe someday I'll get that teak laptop after all. And they > sell > every other kind of dorky skin for cellphones... why can't I have > one of > those in wood as well? Here you go: http://www.miniot.com/miniot/iphone.htm - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 17:28:32 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Re: Favourite best band-name: Eric Broome & The Dribblers Eddie saidie: >speaking of "fucking", and apropos of earlier discussion. was listeningthis morning to *Fair Warning* (always and forever my favourite bestvan-halen record), and my mind was wandering a bit, so that the "she lookedso *fucking* good" line crept up on me unawares; and, i must say, quiteshocked me. >so there's more evidence for the theory earlier propounded: even fucking*van halen* can jolt a listener with a judiciously placed "fuck"-bomb. 1. Although my eyes could clearly see (the Statue of Liberty? but I digress) the words "Fair Warning," my the-Cubs-won-the-division-last-night brane processed it into "Diver Down"...so, I was gonna give you a hearty "wtf?" over that, but...never mind...carry on (and, BTW, "FW" (and "VH" and "VHII") are v. good, but...give me "Women and Children First"). 2. I hear ya on the f-bomb...and, in cases like this, I think it partially has to do with the context of that-era, radio-friendly (and heavily radio-played) Van Halen. You heard them so often on the air, AND, frat-boy raunchiness aside, Diamond Dave wasn't usually dropping obscenities...so, as you said, "a judiciously placed" one had its impact. ...In a way, it's kinda like the old NatLamp chart (what? 3rd time recently referring to old Lampoon pieces of the '70s and '80s? 2nd (or 3rd, 4th, etc.) childhood arriving right on schedule!) that compared relative impact of unexpected flesh in mainstream mags...ie., the SI Swimsuit issue = a Playboy centerfold; a nipple in TV Guide = a Penthouse pictorial; even a fleeting description in Readers Digest ("her shapely bosoms...") = spread beaver in Hustler... See, it's all context! By this theory, the most shocking f-bomb would be dropped by...who? Kate Hepburn's dead (and, frankly, was awfully feisty for it to be totally unexpected)...So is Mother Teresa (and, apparently, during her long-silence-of-god period, she may well as sworn)...And, of course, Mr. Rogers (dead, too)...so, uh...I don't know...maybe Dakota Fanning? an Olsen twin? or Jay Leno (in the currently born-again "grannies like him" period)? Regis? Stephen Hawking? (cool in that "Trans" voice!) maybe Mr. "Goodness!" Donald Rumsfeld (but...a bit out of the loop lately) At this point, it'd be no shock at all to hear Bushie (or Hillary, for the red among us) swear -- in fact, it'd probably be a calculated "accidental" outburst. I dunno - maybe Elmo? Michael "Lord - strike that poor boy down!" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 17:51:11 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Re: Guest star vocals James wrote: >Robert Fripp's guitar work on The Roches' "Hammond Song". Oooh -- really good one...just the other day, I was 'splaining the whole Wainwright, McGarrigle, Roche family tree to a friend (who was exposed to Rufus, Martha, and Kate-and-Anna on the "I'm Your Man" soundtrack), and mentioned the Frippery production and lead work on the Roches' first record -- which, of course, meant nothing to my friend, who hadn't even heard of King Crimson...but, out here, that's frickin' currency of the realm. Good stuff... Michael "We are Maggie and Terre and Suzzy..." Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wl mailtagline ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 18:02:47 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Re: Favourite best band-name: Eric Broome & The Dribblers Lauren said: >p.s. so if it's true that "[you] [were] living in Paris", the nextquestion is not: "and did you see the replacements?" but more to theeffect of: "when, why, and for how long?" My questions are: "Were you a free man?" "Did you feel unfettered and alive?" "Was anyone calling you up for favors?" and "Did you have anyone's future to decide?" If yes to all of the above, you may be David Geffen (please check your bank balance to be sure...if it's less than several hundred million dollars, you may _not_ actually be Mr. Geffen...) Michael "Similarly, when you were there, did they kiss on Main Street? (and I mean Amour, mama, not cheap display)" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=7+wonders+world&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 18:06:12 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Re: Favourite best band-name: Eric Broome & The Dribblers Jeff wrote: >On 9/28/07, Rex wrote:>>> I was living in Paris when Van Hagar released the "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" album. > >So were you a free man there? Did you feel unfettered and alive? Was therenobody calling you up for favors, nobody's future to decide? Fuck you, Jeff Norman! (or, more precisely, Fuck me for not scrolling down in the digest before I responded!) Michael "At least I threw that bonus 'David Geffen' joke in there...(crap!)" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 18:12:04 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Re: Favourite best band-name: Eric Broome & The Dribblers kevin wrote: >>for some reason, a story that starts with those words always sounds>fake to me. well, "fake" is perhaps the wrong word; it's more like i>expect that the speaker is putting me on. unless, of course, i was>talking to samuel beckett or sartre. they wouldn't put me on. >Always reminds me of Woody Allen's bit about living in Paris in the twenties, hanging out with Scott and Zelda: "We laughed about it, and Gertrude Stein punched me in the nose." IIRC, that was the (no pun intended) punchline...the first few times it was something like "Then Hemingway and I put on the boxing gloves and he punched me in the nose..." But, still -- great reference! Michael "A nose is a nose is a nose" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 20:56:05 +0100 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Patti Smith on BOC This seems to be correct: And they definitely did have an album called 'Fire of Unknown Origin'. I didn't know that Patti Smith had written a pome called that, however. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 15:00:02 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Kind of interesting, a Chamberlin M-300 - - Steve _______________ Interaction with cosmic intelligence may be influence by Penrose noncomputable Platonic wisdom embedded in Planck scale geometry. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 17:14:31 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: Guest star vocals kevin says: > >that's more of a duet >(although i do like it and, as a general rule, duets kind of give me > >the creeps.) > > I tend to like them. Lee & Nancy on "Summer Wine;' Johnny & June on "Jackson;' John & Exene on "Adult Books;" I even like the ones Stevie Nicks's done with Tom Petty in spite of not having much use for Stevie Nicks otherwise. i was thinking about the duet thing, and it might be rooted in my fairly intense Fear of Musicals. and it the meanwhile, i thought of two other duets-more-than-guest-vocals that are on my List of Yay: bjork with thom yorke - "i've seen it all" from selmasongs p.j. harvey with thom yorke - "the mess we're in" from "stories (songs?) from the city (sea?), songs (stories?) from the sea (city?)" although maybe neither are duets or guest vocals as thom yorke's voice is more in the category of some sort of exotic instrument. also the duet on the lush album "lovelife" (i think is the album) that has jarvis cocker. it might be called "ciao." it's more just a funny song than any great vocals, although i confess i like the combined super-sassy sound that of those two rather sassy singers singing together (or, at each other, as is more the case there.) (as an aside, i don't know why, but i always think of that song as one that would irritate british people.) as ever, lauren - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 14:48:37 -0700 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: Re: Favourite best band-name: Eric Broome & The Dribblers i believe that it was jeff's theory (but perhaps you were intending the royal "your"...). ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 17:18:14 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Guest star vocals On 9/28/07, lep wrote: > > > > http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=161930 > > copied from that exact page: > > << > DVD # 112 > ELVIS COSTELLO, The Imposters and Friends > Trump Taj Mahal, Atlantic City, NJ > 19 May 2006 Etc. I am a dummy, twice: I downloaded (and am still sharing) this w/o noticing that it was a DVD (that's the first dumminess), but uh, my 'puter doesn't have DVD-burning capabilities. I tried downloading a DVD audio ripper so I could just get sound files from these, but none of the ones I tried worked very well (or wanted me to pay $30 in order to get more than 30 seconds of each song...something I'm unwilling to do since I rarely use the damned thing.) So I don't really know what to do with this (second dummy). So if anyone here has already ripped this performance to audio-only for convenient car listening, say, I'd appreciate it greatly if you could post .flacs or something like that... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 15:28:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Favourite best band-name: Eric Broome & The Dribblers Michael Sweeney wrote: > See, it's all context! By this theory, the most shocking f-bomb > would be dropped by...who? Marie Osmond. "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 11:52:19 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: Patti Smith on BOC >This seems to be correct: > >And they definitely did have an album called 'Fire of Unknown >Origin'. I didn't know that Patti Smith had written a pome called >that, however. > >- Mike Godwin I may be missing some of the context for this reply with stuff that hasn't come through on the digest yet, but: Look towards the bottom of that page - guest vocals on "The revenge of Vera Gemini", on the album "Agents of Fortune" James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 17:28:14 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Favourite best band-name: Eric Broome & The Dribblers On 9/28/07, lep wrote: > Rex says: > > I was living in Paris when > > > > for some reason, a story that starts with those words always sounds > fake to me. I'd find it suspect as well. > question is not: "and did you see the replacements?" but more to the > effect of: "when, why, and for how long?" First half of '91. One semester of undergrad, roughly congruent with the Gulf War (the one that ended, sort of). David Geffen I was not. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 20:45:08 -0400 From: blatzman@aol.com Subject: guest vocals from favorite 80s artists! How about Deborah Harry on the last Moby single "New York New York" (Great dance track!) Or, fans of Dave Wakeling won't want to miss his guest turn on "Good Vibe" by Mr Anonymous (on iTunes!) Or how about Martin Fry singing "New Man" on the latest single by Sonic Hub Terry Hall is always a great guest vocalist on Lightning Seeds stuff, but I quite like his new "Single" with the Dub Pistols with their version of "Rapture" Sinnead O'Connor does a great vocal on the James B-Side "I Defeat" (If you like James-you have to hear this) I quite like Steven Kilbey's guest vocal on the Blank & Jones single "Revealed" And Billy Idol is amusing and fun on the Derek Sherinian Single "In The Summertime" I really dig Kim Wilde's guest vocal on Nena's "Anyplace Anywhere Anytime" from a few years back. And finally, Roddy Frame originally recorded "Western Skies" as a single for the band Lazyboy before going on to record his own version, and I think I like the Lazyboy version best! Dave ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 03:20:35 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: Guest star vocals Rex says: > On 9/28/07, lep wrote: > > > it looks promising (then again, mention ms. apple to me, and it will, > > by default, "look promising.") > > Interesting... she irritated me from Day One, and has only grated... > erm, harder? more abrasively?... over time. i just listened ms. apple doing the vocals for aforementioned version "i want you" and was so blown away that i can only suspect that you're pulling my leg. > I am, however, beginning to get at some of the virtues of the St. > Vincent record. It's still a little fussy, but it's so very... sly. > I think that's the particular word for the humor... like, sly for > real, not in a rock-critic-y way. this paragraph confused me (actually maybe i should have phrased that: "like most paragraphs, that confused me.") i thought you were referring some fiona apple album that i hadn't heard of (and so was all excited for like 2 seconds), and then switched to thinking you were making a catholic joke that flew passed (past?) me. but google is my friend. BTW, ms. apple turned 30 this month. that seemed to happen soon. they grow up so quickly. as ever, lauren - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 09:24:36 +0100 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: Patti Smith on BOC Quoting grutness@slingshot.co.nz: >> This seems to be correct: >> >> And they definitely did have an album called 'Fire of Unknown >> Origin'. I didn't know that Patti Smith had written a pome called >> that, however. >> - Mike Godwin > > I may be missing some of the context for this reply with stuff that > hasn't come through on the digest yet, but: > Look towards the bottom of that page - guest vocals on "The revenge > of Vera Gemini", on the album "Agents of Fortune" > James * Yes, that's what I meant. And not that it does you much good in the Antipodes, James, but The Patti Smith Band are playing in Oxford on October 22nd, and also in London and Cambridge. My mate Alex caught them in Dresden during the summer and said that Patti does a great vocal on 'White Rabbit' (a psychedelic classic written by Paul Slick, brother of Grace Slick). Oct 5 Montreal, Canada Eglise St. Jean Baptiste Oct 17 Marseille, France Palais de Congress Oct 18 Montpellier, England Salle Berlioz Opera Oct 19 London, England St. Luke's Church solo, with Philip Glass Oct 20 London, England Shepherds Bush Empire Oct 22 Oxford, England Carling Academy Oct 23 Cambridge, England The Junction Oct 28 Lisbon, Portugal Coliseo Oct 30 New York, New York United Palace Theatre with Black Crowes Oct 31 New York, New York United Palace Theatre with Black Crowes - - Mike G. PS And this also looks interesting for you East Coast people: Jan 18, 2008 New York, New York Metropolitan Museum of Art Poems and Songs for the Young at Heart: Patti Smith and friends will perform works of Hans Christian Andersen, William Blake, Lewis Carroll, A. A. Milne, Rudyard Kipling, and Robert Louis Stevenson. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 12:01:33 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: NEW ON DiME (DVD) : Robyn Hitchcock and John Paul Jones Modigliana Piazza some cover versions listed - corrected below * _http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=164556_ (http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=164556) Robyn Hitchcock and John Paul Jones Modigliana Piazza - Italy July 30th 2007 Video Recording and Transfer to MPG ** by Paolo Lusenti Digital 8 Camera -> MPG transfer Editing, sound remastering and DVD authoring ** by Matthijs van Geldere MPG -> Adobe Audition 2.0 (Sound Remastering) MPG -> Pinnacle Studio 10 (Editing and Sound mix) TMP DVD Author 1.6 (DVD authoring) **PAL FORMAT** Tracklist 01 - Balloon Man 02 - I Often Dream Of Trains 03 - Glass Hotel 04 - Full Moon In My Soul 05 - Sometimes A Blonde 06 - Solpadeine 07 - No Way Out Of Time 08 - Ole Tarantula 09 - It's Not Dark Yet (Bob Dylan) 10 - Television 11 - Beautiful Girl 12 - Not Fade Away (Grateful Dead) - *BUDDY HOLLY 13 - Shakin' All Over (Iggy Pop) * JOHNNY KID & THE PIRATES/THE WHO/THE GUESS WHO 14 - Peggy Sue (Buddy Holly) 15 - All You Need Is Love (The Beatles) 16 - Love Me Do (The Beatles) 17 - The Weight (The Band) - ------------------------------------- Robyn Hitchcock - Lead Vocals, Acoustic Guitar John Paul Jones - Mandolin, Dobro, Vocals ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #354 ********************************