From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #349 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, September 24 2007 Volume 16 : Number 349 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: ROBYN gets Vicious & Waiting For The Man (on DIME) [2fs ] Re: the coprophagy thread [2fs ] Re: tl;dr: we came here to rock the microphone [2fs ] Re: not too tl but still dr [Rex ] Re: ROBYN gets Vicious & Waiting For The Man (on DIME) [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] RE: the aliens ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: ROBYN gets Vicious & Waiting For The Man (on DIME) [kevin ] Robyn one-offs [JBJ ] RE: Slovenly ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Slovenly [2fs ] Re: Robyn one-offs [Benjamin Lukoff ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:51:03 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: ROBYN gets Vicious & Waiting For The Man (on DIME) On 9/20/07, HwyCDRrev@aol.com wrote: > > _ > Note to the fans: I know, I know..."Vicious" is NOT a VU song ....but > what > do you want!!!!! I know you didn't write that yourself - but in fact, arguably it is: am I misremembering, or didn't a VU version of this show up on one of those posthumous odds'n'sods collections? (Like many early Reed solo tracks, it seems) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:00:10 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: not too tl but still dr On 9/21/07, Rex wrote: > > The Au Pairs, "Sense & Sensuality". Second album, and in come the synths, > saxes, drum machines, and smoothed-out beats. It's not fatal, but it's > amazing how many of these bands followed this pattern, like they all came > to > the same dead end as a function of their era, when it didn't have to be > that > way. The Au Pairs fare at least as well as Gang of Four did with this > approach did on "Songs of the Free" > Okay, I think this is the second time you've mentioned SotF in this way, and I say: go listen to that one again. Seriously. First, no synths (Or very few, anyway). Rhythms might be "smoothed out," but only to give the funk (implicit in their earlier work) a more visceral, danceable presence. I don't recall any saxes or drum machines, leastways not in the stereotypically "80s" mode. I think SotF is in fact a very fine album, a logical evolution from their earlier releases. Methinks you might be thinking of _Hard_, which kinda does smooth out the beats, etc. That album also has its defenders - and to be fair, I haven't listened to it for eons - but it's far closer to your description than SotF is. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:01:10 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: the coprophagy thread On 9/21/07, Rex wrote: > > On 9/21/07, natalie jacobs wrote: > > > My cats have done some vile things on occasion (mostly involving using > my > > bed as a litterbox), but nothing comparable to eating shit. > > This reminds me to consult the Fegmind about another pet issue. Our > cat keeps pissing on the slipcover to our couch. > I'd talk to your vet. Sometimes such episodes are indicative of medical issues. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:10:29 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: tl;dr: we came here to rock the microphone On 9/20/07, Rex wrote: > > > St. Vincent, "Marry Me". As the first track unfolds, being who I am and > having listened to the kind of stuff I do these days, I start off asking > "Wait, is she doing Kate Bush or The Raincoats?", and by the tracks's > raucous ending, I conclude "Yes", but then I start to wonder. Teh pr0g > lurks always, but not too off-puttingly although it's beginning to strike > me as a real reversal that the first releases by one-person-bands and > home-recording outfits these days are starting to sound more and more like > the densely-arranged orchestrations and mini-operas that most bands used > to > have to wait for the big label bucks to fund. And while that's > encouragingly democratizing, it sometimes seems like the simple, amazing > phenomenon of two or more people laying together gets lost. Okay, to address what you probably meant to say rather than what you typed: Although I'm pretty sure Annie Clark (who essentially is St. Vincent) played most things on this CD herself, she didn't play all of them: some famous person plays violin, for example (can't remember who: my copy's from eMusic, one of whose faults is no credits), and Bowie's piano player Mike Garson plays some piano (you know: he's the guy who sounds like several highly trained cats chasing each other up and down the keyboard. Think of the piano in "Aladdin Sane": that guy.) Also, in terms of skywriting by word of big mouth ego: just play it a few more times. I think it begins to hang together stylistically more if you do that. Or maybe I'm jsut less bothered by the whole general notion of prog (which, at its best, is actually rather punk in its determination to just do whatever the musician wants, whether it fits a genre or not be damned). Also, to > reiterate, drums are really damn loud these days. The lyrics are fine, > from > what I can make out the whole package is okay, really, but I don't think > it's my kind of thing what seems like experimentation at first begins to > feel a little like grandstanding after a while. I'll give it another > listen, but barring a major revelation, this just seems a little too > musically academic for my tastes. I can imagine some fanbase crossover > with > Dresden Dolls (who aren't my cuppa, either) and whatsitcalled, My > Brightest > Chemical Valentine Hope Diamonds, whom I dislike strongly based on just > hearing an interview with the songwriter where she dripped with contempt > for, and incomprehension of, pop music I haven't heard any of that > artist's > music, but I hope it's way worse than this album, just so I can say "ha", > and then crank up The Go! Team again. Or The Slits. Can't forget about > the > soaring heartland authenticity and unifying compassion of The > Slits. (Okay, > nobody's getting the Hilburn thing sorry.) > > > > Slint, "Spiderland". Again with the seminal, legendarily influential > indie > act that I somehow missed the first time around. It's pretty unique in > that > it doesn't sound especially like any one other band of its time, but > aspects > of it certainly, specifically echo Sonic Youth, the Minutemen, Fugazi, > Mudhoney the oddball time signatures sound more jazz than prog, the arty > spoken-word stuff is more New York than Middle Earth. Occasionally I find > myself thinking, "This is gonna turn into some shit like Helmet or > something, isn't it?" but then it thankfully moves on to more textural > territory. I really hated music in the '90's, man. Brilliant stuff was > being done on the fringes of everything, but for the most part it was > Blind > Alley City for one musical "movement" after another, the trashing of a lot > of stuff that had meant a great deal to me and other of my ilk (assuming I > have one.) There are aspects of this album that I like very much, the > quieter passages where the tonalities of the guitars tell the story it's > like a slightly more hushed, slower variation on the late '90's Sonic > Youth > sound, but a little more dynamic. It demands listening in an environment > with less background noise, so I'll need to revisit it I have no clue as > to > how good or bad the words may be. But I totally recognize the closing > track dunno where from, though a soundtrack? Kids, maybe? The album as > a > whole doesn't strike me as earthshaking, but I may be less familiar with > the > music that would spring from this well than I think, not being too > immersed > in "post rock" or what have you. But it does possess an atmosphere all > its > own. > > > > Lee "Scratch" Perry, "Megaton Dub One". This is some kind of > who-the-hell-knows-what-it-is compilation in an ocean of many such > artifacts. I have the three-disc set "Arkology" in the wings, but I have > to > relabel all the tracks to make it make sense, so meanwhile I figure let's > take a listen to something with unclear origins that works sometimes. > Certainly > heavier and more modern than the albums from '76 and '78, the reverb and > delay, and now phasing as well, are more liberally applied to guitars and > vocals, fragments of which pop in and out of the mix at seemingly > arbitrary > points, which is along the lines of what I had been led to expect. More > minor-key material for some reason, probably related to having heard a > lot > of Massive Attack, I associate dub with minor keys. Not being able to see > the track names makes this even more disorienting. Maybe that's as it > should be. All I can say for sure is that the sources for the tracks are > of > really inconsistent fidelity. More to come. > > > > The Clean, "Modern Rock". There was a time, not at all before teh > intarnets > but before they really good for anything other than e-mail, when you could > find out about an alarming amount of interesting-sounding music without > being very much able to hear it. And it would be thus that you would take > fragments of web-derived information, such as James telling me who The > Clean > were based on a question about a lyric on a Chills record, out into the > used > bins of the real world and see what you could find. That time being, like > 1995 or something, and The Clean's "Anthology", containing all the crucial > original-run material, not having been released yet, you might still find > something like "Vehicle", one of the two later "reunion" albums that The > Clean released, before hearing that early stuff. "Vehicle", taken on its > own merits, struck me as a nearly perfect record, even though I figured > the > bands' reputation was based on very different material I would go so far > as > to say that if someone asked me for the quintessential unfussy '80's > melodic > college-rock indie album, unclouded by circumstance, trauma, or commercial > expectations, just that sound, pure and joyous as it comes, breezing by in > sequence of similar-sounding but still energizing songs, I might well hand > such a person a copy of "Vehicle" (even though I think it came out in the > '90's). Maybe that makes a wee teeny bit ironic that the other Clean > reunion album (which I hadn't heard until today, although a good deal of > it > is on "Anthology") turns out to be far less homogeneous in sound, and yet > it's the one entitled "Modern Rock". I actually do love the way the sound > on "Vehicle" almost never varies, but everything The Clean does here works > out fine, too, the band having a number of strengths to which to play, and > in a way it mirrors that diverse early output more directly. There are of > course full-bore pop-rockers, but also acoustic tunes, instrumentals, > Velvets-like organ drones (which actually end up sounding more like Yo La > Tengo), pretty jangly waltzes, and a song with somebody's kid > singing. Not > what I was expecting, but not an unpleasant surprise. > > > > Mazzy Star, "Among My Swan". That's a cool album name, by the way. This > remains the only post-superstardom Mazzy Star release, right? A > commercial > letdown but beloved by the faithful as a worthy, underrated followup, > right? > It certainly doesn't seem like a lesser record, really, although it is > perhaps guilty of trying to push the envelope of stark 'n' dirgey past > what > the average music listener's attention span can brook. ???Track 7??? > throws > of some nice sparks with a slow build that culminates in an explosion of > electric guitar, including an actual solo, but nothing actually rocks as > such. Maybe that would feel too much like walking backwards to Roback, > because he could do it the Cowboy Junkies around this time had > comfortably > retrofit the same kind of gloomy low-key vibe onto some Crazy Horse-style > lumberato and made it seem natural (because it, you know, *is* > natural). Nothing > wrong with this at all, except maybe the "Fade Into Me" clone close to the > end, nor any great leaps forward either. Unless there are examples of > either in the lyrics, which I by and large can't hear right now. > > > > No Doubt, "The Very Best of No Doubt or Some Shit Like That". Nothing > that > I intentionally listened to, but I happen to have heard most of this in a > friend's car over the weekend. I guess it's pop music history now. I > knew > every one of the songs, and every one of them is really, really > terrible. Surely > something can be unearthed from Ms. Stefani's lyrical catalog that gives > that Axl Rose couplet a run for its money in the awfulness > sweepstakes? As > a near f'r'instance, I've always thought that she sings "my pregnant mind > is > fat full of envy again" (in "That One No Doubt Song"), but that can't be > right, can it? CAN it? And look, even if it's not that, it's something > close to that, and nothing even close to that can be any good anyway. It > seems to be taken as a given that she's a really important artist and > stuff > these days, and I used to ignore this band whenever they played for free > on > campus in the middle of the day in 1990 or so. That, my friends, is why > they don't call me "The Starmaker" or "The Man with the Midas Ear" or > anything like that, but it does not explain what Gwen Stefani has done to > become such an artiste, other than that she got famous writing and > performing mediocre music and then wrote and performed some more mediocre > music about the pros and cons of having become famous (and subsequently > having a child, whi. Thanks. Also, I have just never personally found > her > all that hawt. I mean, Jesus, she's no Viv Albertine, is she? > > > > The Church, "El Momento Siguiente". In which I confirm previous hints > that > I know this band's catalog way too well. Part two of the "acoustic > reinventions with Spanish titles" series. There are of course a couple of > new songs, a few of which are interesting, and all of which do seem to > indicate that getting off of heroin was a good idea for Steve Kilbey, in > terms of lyric writing as well as all the rest of it. Now, as for the > older > tunes and what happens to them look, it just has to be said, "Reptile" is > just a lame song. God knows it sounded awesome the first time I heard it, > but even then the lyrics seemed bad, a case where the generic powerpop > words > would've been preferable, but taking away its delay pedal and changing it > to > a speakeasy shuffle does it no favors. And "Two Places at Once" is not > only > one of my least favorite Church songs evar, it also seems like the one > they're determined to foist on me over and over again it's on here, and > they've played it both times I've seen them live, and at 8 minutes a shot, > that's just too much of my life spent on something that seems to be a song > that Steve and Marty both wrote a set of bad lyrics for and then decided > to > use both of them for some reason. Elsewhere, a couple of newer songs that > I > didn't care for on their respective albums turn ("After Everything" and > "Pure Chance") turn out to not be too bad; "Tantalised" gets a hokey but > endearing raga makeover; "North South East West" loses a lot of > interesting > musical sections; there's a lot more piano and mandolin than you'd think, > and the two other real oldies, "It's No Reason" and "Electric Lash" steal > the show, and one can't help but suspect that the latter, which isn't > otherwise radically reworked, was included just so it could be hear > without > the incredibly long snare fill out of the instrumental that was so > distracting on the original. So there. I'd pick any number of other > songs > to acousticise if it were up to me "Louisiana", for one, although that > album seems to have been written out of the Church canon, and if you > really > need an epic, what's wrong with "Bel Air"? And hell, I played "Hotel > Womb" > at a show this summer. Oh well. These are silly projects, and I wouldn't > be bothering with The Church if they hadn't released such a great late > period record in "Forget Yourself", just a few scant years ago, damn them. > > > > The Saints, "Eternally Yours". I know The Saints mostly from a handful of > singles and a somewhat sketchy two-disc compilation I've had for a number > of > years, which demonstrated pretty clearly that their output was extremely > hot > and cold after the initial "punk years", but all of that early stuff > seemed > solid as anything, so maybe it'd be a good idea to start there. And yeah, > this stuff is rock solid musically and melodically it's as comparable to > The > Jam as to anyone else, the songs, of course, short and to the point and > more importantly, I like the vocals, which don't have the slightest hint > of > the melodrama that seems to have crept in with the arena-rock production > later on. And it's hardly orthodox punk: only about half of the songs > sound > like they couldn't have existed without the punk explosion, while the > other > half sound like well-crafted rock songs that benefit from the kick in the > ass they're given to get them up to the speed and intensity required by > the > times. But you can hear the harmonicas an acoustic guitars winking at you > at the whole time. I'll tell you one thing, all those Social Distortion > fans that just came crawling out of the woodwork really have no excuse for > not hearing this album. I do believe there are a few singles appended to > the end of this release. They're fierce as well. > - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:06:41 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: tl;dr: we came here to rock the microphone On 9/20/07, Rex wrote: > > > > encouragingly democratizing, it sometimes seems like the simple, amazing > phenomenon of two or more people laying together gets lost. Yeah, those orgies do sometimes lose sight of the simple and essential facts of things. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 22:43:12 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: not too tl but still dr > Okay, I think this is the second time you've mentioned SotF in this > way, and I say: go listen to that one again. Seriously. Verily. Heck, "We Live As We Dream, Alone" um, alone justifies this one. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:04:06 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: not too tl but still dr On 9/23/07, 2fs wrote: > > Okay, I think this is the second time you've mentioned SotF in this way, and > I say: go listen to that one again. Seriously. > > First, no synths (Or very few, anyway). Rhythms might be "smoothed out," but > only to give the funk (implicit in their earlier work) a more visceral, > danceable presence. I don't recall any saxes or drum machines, leastways not > in the stereotypically "80s" mode. I think SotF is in fact a very fine > album, a logical evolution from their earlier releases. > > Methinks you might be thinking of _Hard_, which kinda does smooth out the > beats, etc. Yes indeed-- you're right. I'm wrong. There's this album in my mind which has the songs of "SOTF" but the sound of "Hard". It might have something to do with having heard "A Brief History of the 20th C" a couple million times before actually hearing any of the original albums... the first two albums were really well represented there, but the end of it was a little hazier, and didn't they stick "We Live" on as the last track? Have to go back and look, but I stand corrected. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:19:36 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: ROBYN gets Vicious & Waiting For The Man (on DIME) In a message dated 9/23/2007 10:51:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com writes: I know you didn't write that yourself - but in fact, arguably it is: am I misremembering, or didn't a VU version of this show up on one of those posthumous odds'n'sods collections? (Like many early Reed solo tracks, it seems) many Vu songs have appeared on LR albums over time esp. on the 1st 2 LPs - but i do not believe "Vicious" was one of them, unfortunately ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:04:47 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: the aliens Stewart, I going tonight to see them with Augie March tonight @ MAGIC STICK. AM are supposedly Go-Betweens admirers, did they sound anything like them? Michael B. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Stewart C. Russell Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2007 12:53 PM To: Vanished Like The Trilobite Subject: the aliens We saw them last night. One of the most enjoyable live shows I've seen in a while. But more uptempo than the Betas were. Dates: 24 Sep 2007 20:00 MAGIC STICK DETROIT, MI 25 Sep 2007 20:00 SCHUBAS TAVERN CHICAGO, IL 26 Sep 2007 20:00 THE VARSITY THEATRE MINNEAPOLIS, MN 28 Sep 2007 20:00 LARIMER LOUNGE DENVER, CO 1 Oct 2007 20:00 RICHARD'S ON RICHARD'S CABARET VANCOVER, BC 2 Oct 2007 20:00 CROCODILE CAFE SEATTLE, WA 3 Oct 2007 20:00 DOUG FIR LOUNGE PORTLAND, OR 5 Oct 2007 20:00 SLIM'S SAN FRANCISCO, CA 6 Oct 2007 20:00 LA WEEKLY DETOUR FESTIVAL LOS ANGELES, CA Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:00:18 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: ROBYN gets Vicious & Waiting For The Man (on DIME) >many Vu songs have appeared on LR albums over time >esp. on the 1st 2 LPs - >but i do not believe "Vicious" was one of them, unfortunately Most recent one I can think of was "Real Good Time Together" on Street Hassle, 1977. Anybody? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:06:53 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: tl;dr: we came here to rock the microphone >Bowie's piano player Mike Garson >plays some piano (you know: he's the guy who sounds like several highly >trained cats chasing each other up and down the keyboard. Think of the piano >in "Aladdin Sane": that guy.) Yeah, there's some nice atonal stuff in there but for the most part I've always thought Garson overplays like a mofo, not unlike a lot of "metal" fans who equate talent with the number of notes/measure an individual is able to play. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:04:58 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: ROBYN gets Vicious & Waiting For The Man (on DIME) that sounds about right In a message dated 9/24/2007 12:00:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kevinstudyvin@earthlink.net writes: >many Vu songs have appeared on LR albums over time >esp. on the 1st 2 LPs - >but i do not believe "Vicious" was one of them, unfortunately Most recent one I can think of was "Real Good Time Together" on Street Hassle, 1977. Anybody? ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:26:43 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: tl;dr: we came here to rock the microphone On 9/24/07, kevin wrote: > > >Bowie's piano player Mike Garson >plays some piano (you know: he's the > guy who sounds like several highly >trained cats chasing each other up and > down the keyboard. Think of the piano >in "Aladdin Sane": that guy.) > > Yeah, there's some nice atonal stuff in there but for the most part I've > always thought Garson overplays like a mofo In his defense, I think that's often why he's hired: to do the Mike Garson thing (like on "Aladdin Sane"). I recently rented the DVD of the "Reality" tour*, on which Garson is the main keyboard guy. When he's just supposed to play the parts, that's what he does. It's only when it's his turn to solo that he does the Mike Garson thing. * it is awesome. Get it. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:57:25 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter Jr." Subject: Re: Slovenly On Sep 22, 2007, at 1:00 PM, fegmaniax-digest wrote: > Slovenly, "Highway to Hanno's". An old SST band that appeared on > my radar a > couple of years ago, in the form of vinyl rips of two of their albums. Mike Watt always spoke very highly to me about Slovenly. I'm sad I never got to see them perform. I'm glad I have all their records. > The vocalist (and the lyrics) might prove to be a > barrier to some listeners he deploys a baritone in the Ian Curtis > mold, His name is Steve Anderson. But Curtis never wrote lyrics like "A warm night. Early morning. Saturday/Sunday transition. The golden liquid passing through my veins. Descending, smiling, making me stupid. Filling me with unreasonable prospects. Unreasonably bored. Unreasonably hopeful. Enjoying a dullard's repose." > soar, but with the Slovenly guitarists, the sky seems to be the > limit as far > as prettiness is concerned, and you can't help but wish they'd > stick to it. Oh, but they do on the "Ripose" album. > I seem to recall that they do so more consistently on their other two > records, but in any case, all three are worthy of attention. Everything Slovenly recorded is worth seeking out. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:37:10 -0700 (PDT) From: JBJ Subject: Robyn one-offs Hey fegs -- Is there a document online somewhere that lists all of Robyn's non-album output from the last 10 years or so?? This is just off the top of my head: Broken Heart -- off the More Oar compilation Statue With A Walkman -- off the Sequel Sampler Green Storm Lantern, and 2 more -- book and CD from Italy Book -- from Duplex Planet cd of Ernest Noyes Brookings Let Me Roll It -- some Paul McCartney tribute Your Day Will Come -- Minus 5 vs. Young Fresh Fellows Your Day Will Come (edit with different Robyn Rant) -- Minus 5 vs. Young Fresh Fellows Promo Single Gigolo Aunt and one more -- Live And Direct (Australian radio comp) City Of Women -- Hedwig and Angry Inch compilation Are Friends Electric -- Terry Edwards cd? I Wish I Was Doing This -- Mamie Dunn / Good Times Rock N Roll -- YFF Tribute I'm sure there are others; it'd just be nice to see these all listed somewhere. It could help Eddie out with his ambitious project! JBJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:38:07 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Slovenly I wonder if Dave Roback will ever sue/settle with Greg Ginn to get the rights back for the Opal material that was on SST? Michael B. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Gene Hopstetter Jr. Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 1:57 PM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Re: Slovenly On Sep 22, 2007, at 1:00 PM, fegmaniax-digest wrote: > Slovenly, "Highway to Hanno's". An old SST band that appeared on my > radar a couple of years ago, in the form of vinyl rips of two of their > albums. Mike Watt always spoke very highly to me about Slovenly. I'm sad I never got to see them perform. I'm glad I have all their records. > The vocalist (and the lyrics) might prove to be a barrier to some > listeners he deploys a baritone in the Ian Curtis mold, His name is Steve Anderson. But Curtis never wrote lyrics like "A warm night. Early morning. Saturday/Sunday transition. The golden liquid passing through my veins. Descending, smiling, making me stupid. Filling me with unreasonable prospects. Unreasonably bored. Unreasonably hopeful. Enjoying a dullard's repose." > soar, but with the Slovenly guitarists, the sky seems to be the limit > as far as prettiness is concerned, and you can't help but wish they'd > stick to it. Oh, but they do on the "Ripose" album. > I seem to recall that they do so more consistently on their other two > records, but in any case, all three are worthy of attention. Everything Slovenly recorded is worth seeking out. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:07:51 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Slovenly On 9/24/07, Bachman, Michael wrote: > > I wonder if Dave Roback will ever sue/settle with Greg Ginn to get the > rights back for the Opal material that was on SST? It's my impression (see: Negativland, Meat Puppets, Huskers, Minutemen...) that Mr. G. Ginn is essentially a horse's ass. (Then again, Roback creates the impression in interviews and the like that he too is unlikely to win very many "Mr. Personality" contests...) So, probably u9nless he sues, Ginn will retain the material lodged firmly and deeply up his capacious nether cavity. PS: Hey, I used that rare vowel that Dave uses... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:38:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: Robyn one-offs On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, JBJ wrote: > Broken Heart -- off the More Oar compilation > Statue With A Walkman -- off the Sequel Sampler > Green Storm Lantern, and 2 more -- book and CD from Italy > Book -- from Duplex Planet cd of Ernest Noyes Brookings > Let Me Roll It -- some Paul McCartney tribute > Your Day Will Come -- Minus 5 vs. Young Fresh Fellows > Your Day Will Come (edit with different Robyn Rant) -- Minus 5 vs. Young > Fresh Fellows Promo Single > Gigolo Aunt and one more -- Live And Direct (Australian radio comp) > City Of Women -- Hedwig and Angry Inch compilation > Are Friends Electric -- Terry Edwards cd? > I Wish I Was Doing This -- > Mamie Dunn / Good Times Rock N Roll -- YFF Tribute > > I'm sure there are others; it'd just be nice to see these all listed > somewhere. It could help Eddie out with his ambitious project! "Why Would Anybody Live Here" by the Sadies...and does his serving as narrator on John Wesley Harding's "A Bloody Show" count? ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #349 ********************************