From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #343 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, September 19 2007 Volume 16 : Number 343 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Dog-gone Punishment! [2fs ] Re: A&M rights? [2fs ] Fw: Re: Dog-gone Punishment! [kevin ] Re: Something for Jill ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Dog-gone Punishment! ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: robyn tour dates [Rex ] Re: A&M rights? [Rex ] tl;dr: i and i eat dub for breakfast [Rex ] Re: Dog-gone Punishment! [2fs ] Re: tl;dr: i and i eat dub for breakfast [2fs ] The New Pornographers [Barbara Soutar ] For Rex [Barbara Soutar ] Re: tl;dr episode iv: fat bob strikes back [Michael Sweeney ] Re: My name is "God", and I'm a salty little pisser with Eb's cock in my kisser [lep ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:56:09 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Dog-gone Punishment! On 9/18/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > On 9/17/07, 2fs wrote: > > On 9/17/07, blatzman@aol.com wrote: A long > > narrative explaining why we have cats at our house and not dogs. > > (Of course, cats have their own disgusting behaviors...but, you > > know, nothing that causes even Dan Savage to recoil in distaste.) > > Spoken like a man who hasn't paid that much attention to his own > cat(s).... That's pretty funny: anyone who knows me well knows that we're pretty obsessive about our kitties. Yeah, they'll eat up each other's hork, and mutual butthole cleaning is a common event - but eating factory-fresh Scheisswurst, no. (Sebastian may correct my word formation...) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:00:51 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: A&M rights? On 9/18/07, JBJ wrote: > > Hi Fegs - > > No reissue campaign would be complete without "Globe Of Frogs" & "Queen > Elvis" (Okay, the other 2 A&M albums are pretty good too). > > I'm guessing the reason we've never seen these albums back in print is > because A&M still own the rights to them. > > Can't YepRoc buy the rights to release these from A&M?? Can't buy something if it's not for sale. My guess is, like a lot of record-label accountants, A&M's have stored those masters and the rights deep up unholy orifices, in the event Robyn becomes hugely saleable again. Unfortunately, his relatively high visibility lately probably makes things less likely: a few years back, when he had no label contract and was self-releasing stuff as his catalog fell out of print, they might have been more receptive to selling those rights. Of course, no one was buying - which is the way these things work. I sometimes think such rights ought to expire after a given period of time if they're not used: if a label owns rights to a catalog but does not publish the music, those rights revert to the artist. It'd be nice if artists had enough clout to make that a standard feature of their contracts...but they probably don't. Or Robyn can do what the Wrens were doing with their two Grass/Wind-Up releases before they were finally reissued last year: selling home-burned CD-Rs of them. Or maybe they were selling artwork and giving away the CD-Rs to avoid legal whosits. Or maybe they just said, screw it, and sold them anyway. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:46:53 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Fw: Re: Dog-gone Punishment! That should read "under the TABLE." Delightedly munching butterfly wings under the TABLE. Sorry. - -----Forwarded Message----- >From: kevin >Sent: Sep 18, 2007 12:40 PM >To: Jeff Dwarf , You F*ckers >Subject: Re: Dog-gone Punishment! > >>Spoken like a man who hasn't paid that much attention to his own cat(s).... >> >One of my favorite cat stories: Walking into the kitchen, which had an open door to allow the little brutes free passage, I heard an odd sort of crunching noise. Looked around for a minute and spotted one of our three under the eating a large butterfly whose beautiful yellow wings were evidently affording him the same kind of gratification I'd have got from a heap of BBQ potato chips. > > >np Praxis: Tennessee 2004 - yum! > > >PS: Is the cat's behavior good or evil? Discuss. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 18:23:11 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Something for Jill Bachman, Michael wrote: > > A whiskey bottle was even thrown from the > Boston Gardens stands that landed on the Pistons bench. Amateurs. People die at Old Firm games in Glasgow: Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:47:59 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Dog-gone Punishment! 2fs wrote: > > (Of course, cats have their own disgusting behaviors...but, you know, > nothing that causes even Dan Savage to recoil in distaste.) Oh no ... something *much* worse. Something deeply, deeply squicky: Stewart (whose allergies keep him far away from cats) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:10:24 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: robyn tour dates 1) Damn, no LA show yet. 2) He picks up the Venus 3 on the West Coast, so if he does make it down here... I hope he drags them down here with him. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:20:04 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: A&M rights? On 9/18/07, JBJ wrote: > > > I'm guessing the reason we've never seen these albums back in print is > because A&M still own the rights to them.Can't YepRoc buy the rights to > release these from A&M?? I'm guessing that > they can, or else we probably wouldn't be seeing Billy Bragg reissues from > that same time frame (originally on Elektra here in the States). Which begs the question, "Is A&M just a bigger bunch of bastards than Elektra?" You have to imagine Yep Roc made as good an offer on the RH catalog as they did on the Bragg one, unless they were certain that Bragg reissues were gonna sell way better than Robyn reissues... and if that were the case, I kinda doubt they'd be putting out two big ass-box sets in the first place. I had assumed that the A&M albums were in play when the reissues started, but I guess not. It'll be an odd world when Robyn's best-selling records (in their initial run) are the hardest to find... I still assume that the rarities disc in the Egyptians box will house a fair amount of alternate versions of songs from the A&M albums... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:24:19 -0700 From: Rex Subject: tl;dr: i and i eat dub for breakfast Essential Logic, "Fanfare in the Garden: An Essential Logic Collection (Disc 2)". Okay, you want to talk about jarring: the first three tracks on Disc 2 are from 1982, in the same wildly inventive vein as the material on Disc 1. Track 4, however, makes the leap to 1998, and material that was only ever released on teh intarwebs, and it's even called "On the Internet". It's a massive deflation on a number of levels firstly, it's totally unremarkable guitar pop, and the lyrics, far from the arty-poetic near-code of the earlier material, are basically a mashup of badly dated clichi's from the days of dial-up which holds up less well than, say, Warren Zevon's much older "Networking". Oh noes. It's just a real bummer going from that wide open world of possibilities and experimentatioj where the future could hold anything to well, the future we got, explored not all that adventurously. Things stay pretty conventional for the rest of the 1998 material (one of which is a reworking of the "Martian Man" that I so loved from Disc 1, here reduced to something like an oldies boogie shuffle so normal that the oddness of the words and vocal barely register. For some odd reason these are followed by material from 1997 which fare a little better; they're essentially trip-hop experiments, a much more natural fit for Logic, as it references the dance-dub influences that had been in play with her and her contemporaries 15 years earlier in some ways, I guess she was a bit late on that bandwagon, but at least it suits her (she's apparently been a pretty devout Krishna for some time). After that, the collection rushes headlong and somewhat randomly back into the past for demo and unreleased tracks from the early '80'sdon't ask me, I didn't sequence itof which The Red Krayola track "Born in Flames" is a transcendant standout (I think my recently acquired Red Krayola "singles" collection is buried deep within my CD carousel and shall have to fish it out soon) and the Christmas tune with the Krishna Kid's Choir, erm., isn't. The Upsetters, "Super Ape". Right. This is Lee "Scratch" Perry circa 1976. If one is going to keep blathering on about dub-influenced music, one should be at least passingly familiar with dub itself, right? This I think I can do. At this time roots reggae feels a little too co-opted for by the Frata mon* (and thereby tainted by paradoxical proximity to lots of Jimmy Buffett) for me to really hear it correctly, but I've been swimming in dub-informed musicsome of it really weird and scary from almost day one of being a music fan, so here's my way in (just do not ask me to start smoking pot, please). Still, it's a bewildering world, with many compilations, alternate artist names, repackagings, cash-ins and other mysteries. This seems to be a seminal record in that it was distributed internationally at about the time punk was fermenting, so I'll try this. The sound is not radically experimental, and doesn't come across as especially divergent from roots reggae as I've known it the studio manipulations aren't that drastic (which helps a neophyte like me concentrate on what is there, the treatment of the high hats and placement of the bass) in fact the main thing that makes this seem like something other than a straight reggae record is the parade of disparate vocalists, and the presence of a lot of instrumentals, as if this is somewhere near the beginning of the whole "sound system" collective concept. That and tons of delay on a lot of the vocals. I understand that it's going to get weirder and wilder in later years, so between that and all of the really rejiggered dubby stuff I'm used to, listening to this is more pleasant than revelatory; the guitars, vocals and horn lines are all fairly consonant and traditional compared the gnarly shapes the punks and womenfolk bent them into a few years later. Beginning of a great adventure? We'll see. *http://www.theonion.com/content/node/41242 True West, "Two True". Wow, this is a lot fierier and more psychedelic than the True West record I listened to. I'm not sure exactly what this isit's got 19 tracks and a weird title, so it may be a compilation or expanded reissue (maybe the one Jeff N. referred to a few days back, containing, as it does, "Lucifer Sam"), but I'll tell you what it is is it's frickin' awesome. The drums do the garage stomp thing, even threatening on "I'm Not Here" to invent house music, and the rhythm guitars clang and chime as God intended, and the lead guitar is truly wild: feedback swells, unnatural howls, strings bent to the breaking point, swoops and dives that remind me easily as much of The 13th Floor Elevators as much as anyone else on this record, the sound is right between the early Dream Syndicate and the whole Rain Parade catalog, with the vocals sometimes mirroring both bands but there are even moments where the songs and delivery are reminiscent of The Go-Betweens (Forster division), and if there aren't any actual Verlaine guest shots on guitar, there are some more than reasonable facsimiles. I'm flabbergasted at how much better this is than the other True West album I heardand that one wasn't bad at all. Wow. If the later songs on here are bonus tracks, they're extremely strong, up there with the best of their peers, not just locally but anywhere (a few songs in particular mirror The Church and Guadalcanal Diary (which, for my ears, is a good thing, sonically at least). Just when you think the Paisley Well has run dry The Pop Group, "We Are Time". Man, how have I managed to write about three albums by these guys without mentioning Pere Ubu? Okay, that's fixed. Probably Beefheart should've come up before now, too the gruff-voiced spoken-word and duckfuck-sax piece on this disc surely merits a comparison. This is definitely a patchwork release, so the recordings vary drastically in quality (some are almost certainly live); there seem to be a few songs that don't show up anywhere else along with quite a few different versions of songs from the proper albums. That almost makes for a "best of" in song selection terms, but sure as hell, you don't get the best recordings of each song. All the performances are good, though, urgent and rousing (as if this band knew how to be otherwise), and some of the unique material here is among the band's best. Other than the aforementioned Beefheartian fragment, these seem to be among the band's most compact arrangements recordings, the focus staying sharply on the spikey guitars, which even occasionally lock into sections resembling "solos", until the final live track, which unleashes hell in the form of a squalling distorted saxophone vs. amp feedback finale. Even the microphones give up towards the end. These shows must've been sheer insanity to witness. The Triffids, "Black Swan". I really don't know about the "rap" on Track 3 it's a bit much to recover from, after a strong, evocative start. The dance experiments in general don't work that well, in fact they feel a little like a wan approximation of the same side of The The. It's the kind of thing best left to the experts, and no surprise; The Church sucked at that kind it, too. Other tunes seem to play at Tin Pan Alley sounds, pre-rock torch songs, and European or Latin flavorings with better results, rarely coming off as gimmicky. So the record jumps all over the place stylistically; if it's meant to be ambitious, it sounds a bit lost. The synthesizing of styles works brilliantly for The Triffids when they try to pile all of their ideas into every song at once, as it sounds like they did on "Born Sandy Devotional"; hitching a single set of lyrics to a single song-form or style seems to stretch both a little too thin. The home stretch of the record, which basically sticks to noir textures at different tempos and intensities, hangs together quite will. Where to next with this band? The Gun Club, "Fire of Love". I've always been a little skeptical about this band, whose reputation sometimes seems to be built on live-fast-die-young mythology as much as music (something that always seems more troublesome in LA bands, stylized roots forms, and non-instrumentalist frontpersons, all of which are more apt than most to indicate that your band is a personality-based artifice). This is pretty good, though, landing maybe flight of stairs short of The Cramps, who have the sense not to take themselves too seriously, and, of course, well shy of X, although you have to give any band credit for even trying to play on the same field. There's a skeletal quality to some of the songs that leaves the beat hard to pin down until halfway through that tends to work better on me that the flat-out stompers do. I think that what's meant to radiate off of this record is a certain kind of authenticity, which I can grasp, although the recording is a bit thin to really exude menace it comes across much better when Pierce is singing about contemporary, claustrophobic urban squalor than relying on stock spooky-blues imagery (and he seems to know it). He was not that compelling of a vocalist on any level, and there's no reason to pretend that he was, but a handful of these songs are touched by some kind of greatness (basically the ones you've heard of, "Ghost on the Highway", "Sex Beat", etc.) and maybe that's enough in itself. I'm glad to have heard this for historical interest, but it seems too trapped in its time. Maybe it's just that bad-boy image faux-roots bands with this basic sound are a lot more common these days or something it's a "you had to be there" thing, and it sort of depends on the flavor of your personal rock and roll fantasy whether not you want to have been there. And again, I wish I'd been at one of those Pop Group shows Salem 66, "Natural Disasters, Natural History". Interesting band I'd picked up a couple of '80's samplers from Homestead Records (one of which was called "Human Music") in used bins a long time ago because they had stray tracks from other artists that I liked, and both of them also had Salem 66 songs on them. And you know how it is looking over a list of band names you've never seen before; you tend to call 'em as you see 'em, and I was pretty much, "Oh, Salem 66, that must be some Goth bullshit or something". But at some point over the years, I realized that I really liked both of the songs, and that they sounded not too unlike some of the weird female-fronted postpunk bands that I really liked not as pulverizing as Live Skull, not as unhinged as Throwing Muses, not as cutesy as Blake Babies, but somewhere in that triangle. I didn't really know anything about them, though, which seemed odd. I got a career retrospective and like it a good deal, but I never delved that deeply into it. This is a "proper" album by them, and I like it very much as well. The specific collision of sounds guitars like Mission of Burma with B-52's accents, Raincoatsy vocals, and No-Wave rhythm sectioncould only have come to pass in the '80's, but it sure as hell doesn't sound like the '80's most people remember; in fact it would probably sound like primitive grunge (without the shouting) to Joe Foo Fighters Fan. But the dark passages here owe far more to PIL than Sabbath, and the poppy bits fall somewhere between jangle and Dinosaur Jr. sludge, so it's a great discovery for someone like me. The singer (I think there may be two trading off, on some albums more than others) is neither a screamer nor one of those little-girl-voices, and the music really benefits from that lack of vocal stylization: these melodies seem to demand clear delivery, and get it. I don't know if it's totally brilliant, but I enjoy every second of it thoroughly, and I don't think it inferior in any way to say, Helium, that dog., Fuzzy, Red Fivehell, it's definitely better than Red Five, and don't even talk to me about Veruca Saltand if it falls a little short of Throwing Muses on the alarming side, or Velocity Girl on the hooks, that's hardly a stinging indictment. I don't know that it would interest anyone else, but I'm happy to have discovered this. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:13:48 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Dog-gone Punishment! On 9/18/07, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > 2fs wrote: > > > > (Of course, cats have their own disgusting behaviors...but, you know, > > nothing that causes even Dan Savage to recoil in distaste.) > > Oh no ... something *much* worse. Something deeply, deeply squicky: > < > http://www.corante.com/loom/archives/2006/01/17/the_return_of_the_puppet_masters.php > > Oh, well, yes: part of the cat plan for world domination. Everyone knows that. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 20:21:00 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: tl;dr: i and i eat dub for breakfast On 9/18/07, Rex wrote: > > > > True West, "Two True". Wow, this is a lot fierier and more psychedelic > than > the True West record I listened to. I'm not sure exactly what this is > it's > got 19 tracks and a weird title, so it may be a compilation or expanded > reissue (maybe the one Jeff N. referred to a few days back, containing, as > it does, "Lucifer Sam"), but I'll tell you what it is is it's frickin' > awesome. I hadn't heard of this one - but it turns out to be essentially the same thing as the recent reissue, except that reissue adds two more tracks (can't recall whether they're demos, singles, or what - I also can't recall whether the new one was remastered or anything). - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:49:54 -0700 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: The New Pornographers Stacked Crooked said: "by the way, the plus-neko-and-dan touring new pornographers lineup (eight, count 'em, members -- though dan doesn't play on all songs) is gonna blow your gourds." Hey, I must agree. Saw them last Thursday with my daughter (she turned 19 that day) and it was amazing. The female singer who is not Neko is from Victoria and played keyboard in the opening act as well. She had a busy night. Most of the time there were 7 in the group and Dan would casually wander out and make it 8. They played as one united wall of sound, a beautiful thing to watch. I don't catch many live acts: I count myself lucky to live in the same town as their keyboard player. Sheesh I don't even know her name. Exactly seven years ago today I was having brain surgery... ah, golden memories. Barbara Soutar Victoria, BC Hey Stacked Crooked, I realized your name is the title of one of their songs. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 19:17:58 -0700 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: For Rex Congratulations on your marriage! Barbara Soutar Victoria, BC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 02:30:11 +0000 From: Michael Sweeney Subject: Re: tl;dr episode iv: fat bob strikes back Jeff wrote: >when Bob Dylan spat out the non-airplayable words in "Hurricane" >thirty years ago, it was revelatory, it was a sign of his anger and >frustration - because he just didn't usually use those words. A) Great example, Jeff. When saturation points are passed, meaning can be diluted. (Plus, I'll bet Dylan's use back then hit its intended audience far harder than, say, any random use in any semi-recent rap song would or could...) B) Just happened to play "Hurricane" the other day, and, man, is it still powerful...Both the words and the rhythms that drive home Bobby Z's angry indignation. Glad to see it name-checked here. Michael "One time he could-a been the champion of the wooooooorld" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Can you find the hidden words? Take a break and play Seekadoo! http://club.live.com/seekadoo.aspx?icid=seek_wlmailtextlink ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:45:23 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: tl;dr episode iv: fat bob strikes back jeff 2fs says: > For all those reasons, I prefer "mix tape" (or CD, whatever). oh this is sad. i made actual effort as i know you have a strong preference for one or the other. i think the remembering of the strong preference is the best i can do. although, wait, what's your deal with "boxed set"? yes or no? i can probably also remember whether your preference is consistent between the two. (...which only means i'll be able to get them either both right or both wrong.) in real life, i say "mix tape" and "box set," and i really don't care if it's not correct. but i care that you care. as ever, lauren p.s. to rex - but what about "jack on fire"? isn't that on "fire of love"? it's so dumb and funny and scary. also, i still adore the song "she's like heroin to me" (or whatever the song is that sounds seems like it would have that title.) p.p.s. a true story: when i bought the album "miami" by the gun club, it consisted of the correct outsides and some random classical album insides. this also happened to me with a CD of "here come the warm jets." except, i needn't mention, it was a random CD that was inside, not an album. which would have been a bit of a feat, fitting an LP in a CD case. i would have kept it if it had been like that. - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 22:52:36 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: My name is "God", and I'm a salty little pisser with Eb's cock in my kisser V. says: > Nothing is good or evil, just or unjust, creative or destructive in and of > itself. The context and intent determine the nature of acts. Furthermore, > most truly creative acts are also destructive... To create a new way of > seeing is to destroy the old way. To conceive and disseminate a view of the > earth as round is to destroy the certainty that the earth is flat. And what > is evil in one situation is good in another. whenever the buddhists, nietzsche, and vivien agree on something, i'm *so* there. as ever, lauren - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:13:51 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: My name is "God", and I'm a salty little pisser with Eb's cock in my kisser Stacked Crooked says: > fascinating recent piece at > , in which the > author asks how, given that they can only survive by killing other people > (namely plants), animals can justify their existence. i wasn't satisfied > with his answer, but the question seemed to me fairly profound. i think about things like that a lot. if i get really confused, i go get a joseph campbell book because he probably figured it out already. in the end, mostly, it reminds that there are sort of an infinite way for one to feel superior to others. i'd like to think it keeps me humble (which, in saying or thinking the "humble" thought, i then have to concede some of humbleness i just felt), so e.g. when i'm inclined to call someone an ass for having a hummer, i feel like at least a bit of an ass for having a 4-door civic. or if i get a secret sense of pride for never eating at fast-food restaurants, i think about what the vegetarians would be thinking if they knew about that chicken that got mutilated for my chicken-caesar salad. "good and bad - it comes in pairs." it sounds like that would be written somewhere in "cat's cradle." as ever, lauren - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:38:56 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Re: robyn tour dates it seems logical (probable) that the tour will continue down the west coast In a message dated 9/18/2007 8:10:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, spottedeagleray@gmail.com writes: 1) Damn, no LA show yet. 2) He picks up the Venus 3 on the West Coast, so if he does make it down here... I hope he drags them down here with him. - -Rex ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:20:04 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: tl;dr episode iv: fat bob strikes back On 9/18/07, lep wrote: > > jeff 2fs says: > > > > > For all those reasons, I prefer "mix tape" (or CD, whatever). > > oh this is sad. i made actual effort as i know you have a strong > preference for one or the other. i think the remembering of the > strong preference is the best i can do. You're allowed to have your own preference. Just that I'm allowed to complain, fulminate, and pontificate about it. although, wait, what's your deal with "boxed set"? "Box set." The significance is not that it's "boxed" (i.e., packaged - since everything is) but that it's bulky and rectangular: it looks like a box. Yeesh. Do I have to explain everything around here? > > p.s. to rex - but what about "jack on fire"? isn't that on "fire of > love"? it's so dumb and funny and scary. also, i still adore the > song "she's like heroin to me" (or whatever the song is that sounds > seems like it would have that title.) There probably is - but I'm thinking of "Let Me Stand Next to Your Flower" by Brian Jonestown Massacre, whose chorus is "she's like candy to me (x3)" followed by, depending on your ears, "but candy's no good" or "but candy's so good." In my mind, it's both. And yes, I'm aware that in the second reading the "but" seems counterintuitive...but c'mon, the man wants something he knows he shouldn't have. I blame Jesus and Mary Chain for the whole candy/drugs metaphor. Or the whole candy/sex metaphor. Or the whole sex/drugs metaphor. Or the whole sex/drugs/candy/death metaphor. p.p.s. a true story: when i bought the album "miami" by the gun club, > it consisted of the correct outsides and some random classical album > insides. this also happened to me with a CD of "here come the warm > jets." > Bizarre. Over the years, counting CDs and LPs, I've bought like 8,000 of them...and that's never happened to me once. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #343 ********************************