From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #335 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, September 15 2007 Volume 16 : Number 335 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: tl;dr: radio headquarters, we're running low on dub and paisley! ["Mi] Re: Memento, and More ["Michael Sweeney" ] fegmaniax-digest V16 #333 ["Michael Sweeney" ] RE: Memento, and More [kevin ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #332 ["Michael Sweeney" ] RE: tl;dr: radio headquarters, we're running low on dub and paisley! ["B] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #332 [Steve Schiavo ] thanks for the explanation [Jill Brand ] Re: Music Video [Rex ] Re: tl;dr (0% Roback content) [Rex ] RE: a Yankee fan, methinks [Maximilian Lang ] KC Bowman / Preoccupied Pipers downloads [Steve Schiavo ] assignment for listless listers ["Aaron L." ] Re: tl;dr: radio headquarters, we're running low on dub and paisley! [Rex] Re: assignment for listless listers [2fs ] Re: assignment for listless listers [lep ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:10:58 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: tl;dr: radio headquarters, we're running low on dub and paisley! Jeff sez: >On 9/13/07, Rex wrote: >> >>down-to-earth and goofy. Check out the nutty 2-minute cover of "Immigrant >>Song" this may be one of the earliest places where the post-punk idea of >>rock divested itself of any pretense of being "cool", for better or worse. > >I do like the Embarrassment - but let me take this opportunity to state >that >"The Immigrant Song," in Led Zeppelin's original, is a just plain totally >awesome song. Okay, you do have your marauding Vikings lyrics...but you >know >what? If great rock'n'roll were about lyrics, we'd have to kill the '50s >almost entirely (except Chuck Berry, mostly). But let's look at the rest. >First, you have a brilliantly simple riff: it's just a cleverly syncopated >octave jump, that's all. But then you have Robert Plant, and if his howling >leap up an octave and then down a half-step to an almost painfully >discordant interval isn't the most brilliant vocal riff ever, it's awfully >damned close. > >That riff pretty much stays throughout, but it moves around through a few >different chords, and Plant alternates breathily becalmed, lower-pitched >vocal patches with intense, near-screaming ones - and then everything just >plain stops. Dead silence. Return of riff. Repeat. Lather. > >Minimal means, cleverly deployed. Punk rock couldn't have said it better. ...Like he said, plus "Nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-body's [pause] fault but mine" [whumpity-whumpity whump-whump!!!...] As I've said before, Lou Reed, godfather yadayada, Joe Strummer, blah-blah, Johnny Rotten, etc., but...those examples of Teh Zep? As punk and as rock as it gets... Michael "However, I could easily live without hearing 'D'yer Mak'er' or 'Livin' Lovin' Maid' ever again" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Cafi. http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_SeptHMtagline1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:20:06 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: Memento, and More Jeff wrote: >It isn't Jesus on rollerskates juggling kittens with guns - but what is? C'mon, Jeff, be fair...you know those pesky foot wounds make it difficult for Teh Jeebus to roller skate at all, much less pull off those other aspects simultaneously. Michael Sweeney "To you, I'm an atheist. To God, I'm the loyal opposition." -- Woody Allen (wow, my second "Stardust Memories" reference in as many days, without even really trying...) _________________________________________________________________ Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Cafi. http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_SeptHMtagline1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:31:54 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #333 David Stovall said: > >John Cale eats forest fires for breakfast, and then farts hurricanes. > >I thought it was Chuck Norris who did that. > >d9 >/Chuck Norris and I have the same birthday. Well, did, 'til I gave it >back to him. Chuck Norris' name used to be spelled "Chwuck Nworriws," until he donated the 3 Ws so the Interwebs could be invented... Michael "Uh-oh, what have we started?" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ More photos; more messages; more whatever. Windows Live Hotmail - NOW with 5GB storage. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_5G_0907 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:46:44 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: RE: Memento, and More >Has Stills done anything decent since the first Manassas album back in >1972? That's the latest album I have with him in it anyway. That's definitely the cream of his solo work. Second Manassas album is very nicely arranged and played, but the songs are crap for the most part and the mix is just sludge. Then there's a live album that was his last for Atlantic that's worth hearing, followed by the first of his Columbia albums ("Stills") that's always gotten a bad rap, but I like it. Pretty much everything he's done on his own after that is of a piece - he always has a great sound (I really think he's a great arranger/producer) but the writing just blows chunks. The album he did with Neil Young in '76 is worth hearing (though I'd skip "Make Love To You," amd if I could erase it from my brain I'd do that too) and the 1977 CSN project has its points, but the word is his brain has been steeping in a stew of bourbon coke & smack for most of the last thirty years, and he just went to shit compared to what he was capable of when he was an ambitious youngster. He put out one last year that was pure gold compared to the majority of what's gone before it, but that's not saying a heck of a lot. He may still make a real comeback one of these days. Or not. I looked at some of those pix on Google and one of them scared me - it's fairly recent and he looks like a long-haired, haggard, utterly debauched Jim Belushi: http://s.yottamusic.com/i/amVb.2nEj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:52:47 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #332 kevin said: >Of course John Boorman went on to make the excremental Excalibur, which not >even >Helen Mirren could salvage. Gotta wonder how much vaseline they used to >get >that misty soft-focus look. Not to mention the gallons of "blood" that >looks >like pink corn syrup. Jeez what a disaster. Not as bad as Zardoz, though. Uh-oh, we're gonna rumble here. IMO "Excalibur" is merely (blood, vaseline, and Helen Mirren's (and Cherie Lunghi's) boobies and all) the finest overall adaptation / re-interpretation of the Arthur myth ("Monty Python and the Holy Grail" excluded). I saw this in the theater (ahhh - on the old, humongous McClurg Court #1 screen back when it was just the hugest, plushest theater in Chicago) when I was 19, and many times since. I know -- my attraction is probably more visceral and emotional than logical, but...I mean, Nicol Williamson as Merlin!...the green glow subtly dancing around the sword!..."Carmina Burana" excerpts in the soundtrack!...the lush scenery!...future stars Liam Neeson, Gabriel Byrne, and Patrick Stewart in small roles!...the Charm of Making!...Cherie Lunghi's face! Sigh -- I love this movie beyond all reasonable expectations to do so... ...and, of course, YMMV, but...now I gotta see it again soon... Michael "That's it! That's it!" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Cafi. http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_SeptHMtagline1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:56:35 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: tl;dr: radio headquarters, we're running low on dub and paisley! >...Like he said, plus "Nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-body's [pause] fault >but mine" [whumpity-whumpity whump-whump!!!...] > >As I've said before, Lou Reed, godfather yadayada, Joe Strummer, blah-blah, >Johnny Rotten, etc., but...those examples of Teh Zep? As punk and as rock >as it gets... I'm thinking Immigrant Song could be reimagined as an old-skool R&B instrumental; replace Plant with King Curtis blowing tenor sax and it could be pretty sweet. It's just a rock-solid tune, nitwit lyric and all. >Michael "However, I could easily live without hearing 'D'yer Mak'er' or >'Livin' Lovin' Maid' ever again" Sweeney > I dunno, for sheer stoopid abandon LLM is hard to beat... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:59:49 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: tl;dr: radio headquarters, we're running low on dub and paisley! On 9/14/07, kevin wrote: > > > >Michael "However, I could easily live without hearing 'D'yer Mak'er' or > >'Livin' Lovin' Maid' ever again" Sweeney > > > I dunno, for sheer stoopid abandon LLM is hard to beat... Except it's been overplayed utterly to death - and it always gets segued into "Heartbreaker" - and between the two, it's like "Dumm '70s Rockrz and Their Female Trubblez" a/k/a shut the fuck up. I like a lot of Zeppelin's work...but Plant as Ye Olde Cockmaster is an aspect I could see seriously minimized. I mean, it was the time etc. - but still. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:48:53 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: tl;dr: radio headquarters, we're running low on dub and paisley! ff: > I do like the Embarrassment - but let me take this opportunity to state > that "The Immigrant Song," in Led Zeppelin's original, is a just plain > totally awesome song. Word. > But then you have Robert Plant, and if his > howling leap up an octave and then down a half-step to an almost painfully > discordant interval isn't the most brilliant vocal riff ever, it's > awfully damned close. It should be, copped as it is from Richard Rogers. Contact your nearest gay friend and obtain a copy of "South Pacific", pronto. It's right there in the overture, from "Bali Ha'i". Zep were nothing if not magnificent borrowers. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:08:45 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: tl;dr: radio headquarters, we're running low on dub and paisley! On 9/14/07, Brian Huddell wrote: > > > > But then you have Robert Plant, and if his > > howling leap up an octave and then down a half-step to an almost > painfully > > discordant interval isn't the most brilliant vocal riff ever, it's > > awfully damned close. > > It should be, copped as it is from Richard Rogers. Contact your nearest > gay > friend and obtain a copy of "South Pacific", pronto. It's right there in > the overture, from "Bali Ha'i". > > Zep were nothing if not magnificent borrowers. > That they certainly were - but I'm kinda so-so on this one. True, the melodic contours are the same (up an octave, down a half-step), but the feel, and the voicing of the chords around it, are totally different. "Bali Ha'i"'s octave leap is on the root of the chord, whereas Plant's is on the fifth - and the R&H song's plush harmonic bed makes that drop kind of a swoon into a diminished chord - whereas in the Zeppelin song, there's no chords at all, just that hammering octave - so all we have is that and Plant's wail a diminished fifth above it. 'Course, maybe that's all topsy-turvy from R&H cuz their song's about a tropical island, and Zeppelin's is about an arctic one... I'll still give Zeppelin the credit here: the awesomeness of that sound is entirely in their arrangement and deployment of it, and isn't present at all in "Bali Ha'i." (PS: my "gay friend" is called iTunes. I didn't know that iTunes was gay! I hope the Christians don't find out, or they'll probably try to ban it.) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:22:02 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: tl;dr: radio headquarters, we're running low on dub and paisley! >(PS: my "gay friend" is called iTunes. I didn't know that iTunes was gay! I >hope the Christians don't find out, or they'll probably try to ban it.) Dood, you may not have noticed but most of the Americans calling themselves "Christians" seem to be gay, themselves. Why else would they be so obsessed with it? Or be getting busted for violating the very laws they work so hard to get passed? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:34:12 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #332 >Uh-oh, we're gonna rumble here. IMO "Excalibur" is merely (blood, vaseline, >and Helen Mirren's (and Cherie Lunghi's) boobies and all) the finest overall >adaptation / re-interpretation of the Arthur myth ("Monty Python and the >Holy Grail" excluded). > >I mean, Nicol Williamson as >Merlin!...the green glow subtly dancing around the sword!..."Carmina Burana" >excerpts in the soundtrack!...the lush scenery!...future stars Liam Neeson, >Gabriel Byrne, and Patrick Stewart in small roles!...the Charm of Making!...Cherie Lunghi's face! Sigh -- I love this movie beyond all >reasonable expectations to do so... OK, yr probably right. Honestly I found the visuals so off-putting that I don't remember anything else. Except that Helen Mirren was in it, whom I'll always love for her wonderful work in O Lucky Man! (Any of you-all ever catch that one?) np: Pink Floyd/Meddle (Browsing the CDs in the neighborhood Borders this PM I looked behind the little Robyn Hitchcock card. The only thing there was a copy of America's Greatest Hits. (They had two copies of the Grinderman album but I'm not paying their absurd prices when I can cruise across town to Easy Street this weekend...) I did score a marked-down DVD of Buckaroo Banzai though.) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 19:49:27 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: tl;dr: radio headquarters, we're running low on dub and paisley! > I'll still give Zeppelin the credit here: the awesomeness of that sound > is entirely in their arrangement and deployment of it, and isn't present > at all in "Bali Ha'i." Fair enough. There's a bit in the opening credits of the film where that figure is repeated over a couple of different harmonic settings, and it's done with big-ass horns. I remember as a kid thinking that those horns sounded a tiny bit like Robert Plant. I was a weird kid. But yeah, I don't really think any sort of attribution is in order. It's just kind of fun to say. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:56:54 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #332 On Sep 14, 2007, at 6:34 PM, kevin wrote: > I did score a marked-down DVD of Buckaroo Banzai though. And what a very fine double bill it will make with Zardoz, maybe with The Fifth Element for a triple. - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:29:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: thanks for the explanation That Dick Van Dyke thing really had me going, so I appreciated the responses that told me I wasn't crazy. The "so you like that Ottoman better than me; well, you can keep your Ottoman and I'll go" episode is one of my favorites (along with the one with the paper bags full of walnuts and with Rob losing his thumbs), but I don't know the Dead Milkmen at all (just the name) so I was lost. The show came out when I was a really little kid; I think I saw most of the shows on re-runs. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:57:16 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Music Video On 9/14/07, blatzman@aol.com wrote: > > Hello All- > > I just learned how to post videos to myspace and I put up an old music > video/expermental film I did back in film school! Rex- you'll of > course know Beautiful When You Cry. > > Anyway, it's a bit cheesy but it was shot and cut on 16mm film and all > the effects were done in camera, so be kind!!!! Where's the 290 for "Friend or Hoe / Peace & Vegetable Rights"? Super-8 Claymation, dude! And very "Balloon Man"-esque, IIRC... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 20:52:19 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: tl;dr (0% Roback content) On 9/14/07, kevin wrote: > >Apparently the answer is "in the past", which is >way beyond my budget. > > As has been pointed out in various places the past is a much bigger place than the present. It also seems to be very expensive, which makes it hard to understand how so many people my age manage to live there. On the other hand, everybody winds up there sooner or later, so, six of one... Ooh, that was nice. Well done. (That wasn't a Dead Milkmen song again, was it?) - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:58:35 -0400 From: Maximilian Lang Subject: RE: a Yankee fan, methinks Okay...first...Eagles and Flyers fans are cruel to out of town/opposition fans. Phillies fans are kind enough compared to most sports fans. Tom, are you sure it isn't just that you enjoy hating Philly fans, you know they're only looking for attention...so if you like them it's just as bad, might as well hate them...it makes it easier. I am foremost a Yankee fan, I still root for the Phils, especially since I live in town now. No, it's not a police station, it's a court!!! Seamus McCafferty is the judge who holds court in the Linc. He is by all accounts a hardass Irishman, which suits Philly. Thanks for the sentiment, I am a Jill fan as well. A Pat fan but then...nobody is perfect! Max > Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 22:28:59 -0400> From: jlbrand@bu.edu> To: fegmaniax@smoe.org> Subject: a Yankee fan, methinks> > > Tom:> >> Nothing can come close to how much I hate Philly sports fans though.> >> > Even Max? 'Cause Max is really cool.> > Max, chime in if I'm wrong, but aren't you a Yankee fan? Of course, for > me, that's the worst, but I still love Max.> > I didn't really know anything about Eagles fans until my friend Kate set > me wise. For example, I didn't know that they had a police station > right in the old Veterans Stadium so that they could process the unruly > more quickly. And then the tales that New Englanders returned home with > after Super Bowl (or Superb Owl) XXIX led me to believe that I might not > want to go to an Eagles game. What chagrins me is that Red Sox fans, who > used to be benignly hapless, have turned obnoxious everywhere they go.> > IT'S SO FUCKING HOT IN BOSTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!> > Jill _________________________________________________________________ More photos; more messages; more whatever  Get MORE with Windows Live Hotmail.. 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At 10:03 9/14/2007, Christopher Hintz wrote: >Anyone else stumble across this Damien Youth fellow, and his song, "I >Know Where Robyn Hitchcock LIves"? >He seems to be some cult rock overlooked self-producing dude from the >deep South, though his attempts to sound Brit-psych are impressive. >Maybe this has been mentioned by other fegs at other times? >http://members.cox.net/damienyouth/index2.htm Listened to a couple of mp3 samples, and his voice sounds uncannily like early Leonard Cohen. Eerily. I'm a little intrigued, though -- some of the excerpts were quite good. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:39:16 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #332 On 9/14/07, kevin wrote: > (Browsing the CDs in the neighborhood Borders this PM I looked behind the little Robyn Hitchcock card. The only thing there was a copy of America's Greatest Hits. (They had two copies of the Grinderman album but I'm not paying their absurd prices when I can cruise across town to Easy Street this weekend...) I did score a marked-down DVD of Buckaroo Banzai though.) > Waste no time... the director's cut has Jamie Lee Curtis in it. Proof my memory is dwindling: in the past two weeks I saw... something, something I only saw because of the kids, and it may have been the movie "Underdog" (I know, but it was that boiling-hot weekend and there were no other kid movies out anywhere) or, like, some Disney Channel show, or SpongeBob, or god knows what, that featured, for a brief second, a device and/or vehicle with the "BB" logo plainly visible on it. I laughed, and then apparently suffered from Kid TV Instantaneous Aphasia. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:39:19 -0500 From: "Aaron L." Subject: assignment for listless listers My younger sister is taking some graduate-level art course and has asked for my help in researching a project she's been assigned. She has to come up with some sort of visual art project (I think it is specifically going to involve a combination of photography and graphic art of some sort) based upon 5 songs of her choosing. The professor is apparently some kind of indie-rock snob who has limited the class to choosing songs by a select group of hand-picked artists that he likes. That seems a bit heavy-handed to me. I don't know why they couldn't just pick songs with which they were already familiar and liked, but that's how the assignment is set up. My sister is actually a huge music fan -- she's been to more concerts than anyone else I've ever met (well, except maybe Eddie Tews), but she's more of a fan of the "jam band" genre. She has more Grateful Dead T-shirts than should be allowed. She asked me to help her (a) acquire some music by some of these bands and (b) suggest some songs that she might focus on. Here is the professor-approved list: Beck Joanna Newsom TV on the Radio The Decemberists Rilo Kiley Bright Eyes The Arcade Fire Strangely, nearly every one of these falls into the rather restrictive category of artists-who-I've-tried-to-like-and-come-close-to-succeeding-if-it-hadn't-been-for-the-weird-voice-of-the-singer.... I know there are some fegs who like these artists, and I'm hoping that some of you might be able to suggest some albums or songs that would be likely to be more accessible -- or, just some personal favorites than I can recommend to her. Anyone have any ideas? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 22:02:08 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: tl;dr: radio headquarters, we're running low on dub and paisley! On 9/14/07, 2fs wrote: > > 'Course, maybe that's all topsy-turvy from R&H cuz their song's about a > tropical island, and Zeppelin's is about an arctic one... Synchronicity: my kids and I are reading through the Magic Treehouse books. Last night we finished #14, and today I pulled #15 down from the shelf, and lo and behold, it is entitled "Viking Ships at Dawn". It was all I could do to refrain from howling "Ah ahh AHHHHHHHH... ah!" And then, as Robyn would say, let's hear that riff again. > (PS: my "gay friend" is called iTunes. I didn't know that iTunes was gay! Seriously, it's like your college roommate who has a "girlfriend" and all, but you just can't wait for him to get over it and come out of the closet just for the sake of closure, but he never does, and then a decade later it turns out he's become a huge star in New York drag burlesque. Okay, maybe that was just my college roommate, but he was a LOT like iTunes and sure as hell could have scored you some "Bali Ha'i" (may I never need to puntuate it again (spits on ground)). - -Rex, who just got married today, the witness who signed having just become Mrs. Erik Estrada, and no, I don't make this shit up ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 00:21:30 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: assignment for listless listers On 9/14/07, Aaron L. wrote: > > My younger sister is taking some graduate-level art course and has > asked for my help in researching a project she's been assigned. She > has to come up with some sort of visual art project (I think it is > specifically going to involve a combination of photography and > graphic art of some sort) based upon 5 songs of her choosing. > > The professor is apparently some kind of indie-rock snob who has > limited the class to choosing songs by a select group of hand-picked > artists that he likes. That seems a bit heavy-handed to me. I don't > know why they couldn't just pick songs with which they were already > familiar and liked, but that's how the assignment is set up. My > sister is actually a huge music fan -- she's been to more concerts > than anyone else I've ever met (well, except maybe Eddie Tews), but > she's more of a fan of the "jam band" genre. She has more Grateful > Dead T-shirts than should be allowed. > > She asked me to help her (a) acquire some music by some of these > bands and (b) suggest some songs that she might focus on. Here is > the professor-approved list: > > Beck > Joanna Newsom > TV on the Radio > The Decemberists > Rilo Kiley > Bright Eyes > The Arcade Fire > > Strangely, nearly every one of these falls into the rather > restrictive category of > > artists-who-I've-tried-to-like-and-come-close-to-succeeding-if-it-hadn't-been-for-the-weird-voice-of-the-singer.... Can't quite decide how either Beck or Jenny Lewis (Rilo Kiley) have "weird voices" - but that's irrelevant. If she's a jam-band fan, I'd say either Beck or the Decemberists would possibly work for her, Beck in particular. I know several folks who primarily like folk/bluegrass/jam stuff and are getting into the D'ists - so there's that. Actually I think, with our collective assistance, she should out-obscure the professor...either by finding some very out-of-the-way indie band similar to one of the above, or by finding an exceedingly rare track by any of the above. That limitation strikes me as very odd (you probably remember that I teach college students also). - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 01:21:36 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: assignment for listless listers Aaron L. says: > The professor is apparently some kind of indie-rock snob who has > limited the class to choosing songs by a select group of hand-picked > artists that he likes. she should just laugh in his face, but i'm guessing the asshole couldn't take a joke. > She asked me to help her (a) acquire some music by some of these > bands and (b) suggest some songs that she might focus on. Here is > the professor-approved list: > > Beck > Joanna Newsom > TV on the Radio > The Decemberists > Rilo Kiley > Bright Eyes > The Arcade Fire i bet he does freelance work for pitchfork. well, maybe now the whole class does. > I know there are some fegs who like these artists, and I'm hoping > that some of you might be able to suggest some albums or songs that > would be likely to be more accessible -- or, just some personal > favorites than I can recommend to her. > > Anyone have any ideas? i'm a beck fan, and i *love* "sea change". but part of what's interesting about it is its contrast to his earlier work - e.g. compare and contrast that with "odelay." one aspect of beck's work which could be a plus, could be a minus is that he's put out a lot of fairly interesting videos. there's a dvd version of "sea change" that has like 5 videos. they all look rather homemade like he has some friends with macs. if she's doing something visual for the project, it could be a starting place. like for some of them, it wouldn't be hard to storyboard or, hell, shoot a better one. http://www.amazon.com/Sea-Change-Beck/dp/B0000Z80HU/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3/104-8458211-2127155?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1189832441&sr=8-3 warning about that link though - i believe it's just a dvd; it has a mix of the album but i imagine won't play in a dvd player. also, beck's website has been interesting whenever i've seen it: http://www.beck.com/ the point that it's taking me too many sentences to make is that (1) i can only recommend beck since i don't know the other artists well enough, and (2) beck seems very interested in creating visual components/companions to his work (which may be a plus or not for your sister's project.) (oh, btw, i liked "sea change" so much that i pretty much stopped following his career after it.) xo lauren - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #335 ********************************