From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #334 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, September 14 2007 Volume 16 : Number 334 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: tl;dr: radio headquarters, we're running low on dub and paisley! [2fs] Re: Memento, and More [lep ] Christopher Gross - please explain! [Jill Brand ] Re: Memento, and More [2fs ] Re: Of "Eb" and iPods [Steve Schiavo ] Re: Christopher Gross - please explain! ["Jason Brown" ] Re: tl;dr: radio headquarters, we're running low on dub and paisley! [Rex] Re: Memento, and More [Rex ] Re: Memento, and More [2fs ] RE: tl;dr (0% Roback content) ["Brian Huddell" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #332 ["Michael Sweeney" ] RE: Do You Know Where Robyn Hitchcock Lives? ["Bachman, Michael" ] RE: tl;dr (0% Roback content) [kevin ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #333 ["David Stovall" ] Re: Memento, and More [kevin ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #332 [kevin ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #332 [kevin ] Music Video [blatzman@aol.com] Tropical Brainstorm!!! [blatzman@aol.com] Re: Memento, and More [2fs ] RE: fegmaniax-digest V16 #332 ["Bachman, Michael" Subject: Re: tl;dr: radio headquarters, we're running low on dub and paisley! On 9/13/07, Rex wrote: > > > down-to-earth and goofy. Check out the nutty 2-minute cover of "Immigrant > Song" this may be one of the earliest places where the post-punk idea of > rock divested itself of any pretense of being "cool", for better or worse. I do like the Embarrassment - but let me take this opportunity to state that "The Immigrant Song," in Led Zeppelin's original, is a just plain totally awesome song. Okay, you do have your marauding Vikings lyrics...but you know what? If great rock'n'roll were about lyrics, we'd have to kill the '50s almost entirely (except Chuck Berry, mostly). But let's look at the rest. First, you have a brilliantly simple riff: it's just a cleverly syncopated octave jump, that's all. But then you have Robert Plant, and if his howling leap up an octave and then down a half-step to an almost painfully discordant interval isn't the most brilliant vocal riff ever, it's awfully damned close. That riff pretty much stays throughout, but it moves around through a few different chords, and Plant alternates breathily becalmed, lower-pitched vocal patches with intense, near-screaming ones - and then everything just plain stops. Dead silence. Return of riff. Repeat. Lather. Minimal means, cleverly deployed. Punk rock couldn't have said it better. > > > True West, "Hand of Fate". > True West's first album and EP (I think that's what it is) have been reissued on a single CD. "Too Many Steps to the Door" was an FM/college staple during that era, and there's an ace cover of "Lucifer Sam." Also, production and a solo or two from Mr. Tom Verlaine. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:22:48 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: Memento, and More 2fs says: > On 9/13/07, Capuchin wrote: > > > > On Wed, 12 Sep 2007, 2fs wrote: > > > I believe we're talking about several different kinds of stupid here - > > > but I'm not sure in what way you see _Memento_ as being stupid. > > > > Um, the fact that it was a schlocky 113-minute gimmick wrapped > > around a garden-path plot? > I mean, sure, you can find more profound films - I don't say it's the best > film ever at all - bu I think "stupid" is quite an exaggeration. I'm with Jeff 2fs on this. At one point, I was pretty bothered by the movie, but then realized it was more that I felt it was just getting too much attention. Personally, I think it got too much praise, and then a backlash because of it. Actually, it helped when I found that the "oh, please! what a stupid made-up condition" condition of short-term amnesia isn't all that off the mark. See "The Last Hippie" by Oliver Sacks in this wonderful book: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0679756973 Oh, I just noticed this not-yet-released book by Oliver Sacks titled "Musicophilia: Tales of Music and the Brain" that might interest to a few of you: http://www.amazon.com/Musicophilia-Tales-Music-Oliver-Sacks/dp/1400040817 as ever, lauren - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:23:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: Christopher Gross - please explain! Chris, you wrote this: ["I Tripped Over the Ottoman." Come on, dude. Ask me a hard one! Never been to Seattle (closest I've gotten is Vancouver), but isn't it fairly humid itself? Though I suppose a cool humidity, like a dry heat, is more bearable. I'm an east-coaster through and through, but you won't catch me going farther south on the east coast than, well, here. It's hot down there! - - --Morey Amsterdam] When I saw "I tripped over the Ottoman", I thought of a Dick Van Dyke episode in which Rob and Laura have a fight, and we get two different sides of the story. At one point, Rob trips over an Ottoman. Then you wrote something about Seattle. And then you wrote "Morey Amsterdam," who was on The Dick Van Dyke Show. Did I miss something here? Thanks, Jill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:22:36 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Memento, and More f > > > > I mean, sure, you can find more profound films - I don't say it's the > best > > film ever at all - bu I think "stupid" is quite an exaggeration. > > I'm with Jeff 2fs on this. At one point, I was pretty bothered by the > movie, but then realized it was more that I felt it was just getting > too much attention. Personally, I think it got too much praise, and > then a backlash because of it. And I suspect that's part of what's going on here. It isn't Jesus on rollerskates juggling kittens with guns - but what is? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 22:47:01 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: Of "Eb" and iPods On Sep 13, 2007, at 9:36 AM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: >> I'm also going from a 60 to a 160. Stayed up way too late last night >> importing and I'm at it again. After bringing in a pile of CDs I >> told my >> wife that it's not gonna be big enough. > > Wow. All music or do you have videos on it as well? Just 4 short videos, all less than 5 minutes. I told my wife she could get me a iPod Touch for my birthday - that's where the videos would go. It's a matter of going into the study and opening the big plastic boxes of CDs and thinking I want to put on all of the Jane Siberry albums, or the rest of Robyn's studio albums, or all the Talk Talk, etc. - in Apple Lossless. Still, it's going to be 250-300 albums when done. >> But I want to know who thought it would be a good idea to display >> album >> covers at an angle. I guess SJ signed off on it. > > Well, it looks cool initially, but I think I prefered the > "straight" look as well. I'm also not so fond of the new main menu. > The font seems different somehow as well, but I can't put my finger > on it. I still have the old one, so mybe I'll compare them tonight. Sez Wikipedia - On newer models, such as the 3G iPod nano, iPod classic and iPod touch Podium Sans has been replaced with Helvetica Bold, the same typeface used throughout the iPhone user interface. On Sep 13, 2007, at 10:20 AM, Tom Clark wrote: > I'm not a big fan of the "split screen" either. I think they > should have added some translucency to the menu to have it blend in > with the artwork. That would be much better. What would be stoopidly cool for the iPod Touch - a variation of the G-Force Visualizer. - - Steve __________ I can't resist an anime that includes a small, cute, violence prone girl with a scythe. - John ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:51:53 -0700 From: "Jason Brown" Subject: Re: Christopher Gross - please explain! On 9/13/07, Jill Brand wrote: > When I saw "I tripped over the Ottoman", I thought of a Dick Van Dyke > episode in which Rob and Laura have a fight, and we get two different > sides of the story. At one point, Rob trips over an Ottoman. Then you > wrote something about Seattle. And then you wrote "Morey Amsterdam," who > was on The Dick Van Dyke Show. Did I miss something here? The song Eddie was referencing with "east-coast humidity is enough to make a sane man crazy" was the Dead Milkmen song "I Tripped Over the Ottoman", which is about the Dick Van Dyke show. The lyrics: They call me Robert Petry and I live in New Rochelle With my wife Laura and son Richie but now My life's a living hell cause I tripped over the ottoman One too many times I tripped over the ottoman Until I lost my mind... I was head writer for Alan Brady Maybe you've seen his show It's now funny and it makes my ears bleed This week's guest star isn't Danny Thomas Our special guest star is Death! Once I laughed at Buddy's jokes but Now my life's a living hell, 'cause... Morey Amsterdam can make a sane man crazy Morey Amsterdam can make a nice guy kill Morey Amsterdam can make a sane man crazy Morey Amsterdam can make a nice guy kill What did you bring me Daddy? What did you bring me Daddy? What did you bring me Daddy? Well, I BROUGHT YOU DEATH! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:20:14 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: Potatoes, yes or no? On Sep 13, 2007, at 6:37 PM, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > Que es mas stupido, "Logan's Run" or "Zardoz"? I am Arthur Frayn, and I am Zardoz. I have lived 300 years, and long to die. But death is no longer possible, I am immortal. I present now my story - full of mystery and intrigue. Rich in irony, and most satirical. It is set deep within a possible future, so none of these events have yet occurred. But they may! Be warned, lest you end as I. In this tale I am a fake god by occupation, and a magician by inclination. Merlin is my hero! I am the puppet master. I manipulate many of the characters and events you will see. But I am invented too for your entertainment and amusement. And you, poor creatures, who conjured you out of the clay? Is God in showbusiness too? What more can I say? - - The Voice of the Turtle _______________ Interaction with cosmic intelligence may be influence by Penrose noncomputable Platonic wisdom embedded in Planck scale geometry. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:27:48 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: tl;dr: radio headquarters, we're running low on dub and paisley! On 9/13/07, 2fs wrote: > On 9/13/07, Rex wrote: > > > > down-to-earth and goofy. Check out the nutty 2-minute cover of "Immigrant > > Song" this may be one of the earliest places where the post-punk idea of > > rock divested itself of any pretense of being "cool", for better or worse. > > I do like the Embarrassment - but let me take this opportunity to state that > "The Immigrant Song," in Led Zeppelin's original, is a just plain totally > awesome song. It was only during my "finally listening to Zep" phase of two years ago that I finally put that title and that piece of music together, though I knew both to belong to the band. The process was all about letting go of preconceptions, so I welcomed those marauding Vikings with open arms. I don't think I'd ever known any of the lyrics before. > True West's first album and EP (I think that's what it is) have been > reissued on a single CD. "Too Many Steps to the Door" was an FM/college > staple during that era, and there's an ace cover of "Lucifer Sam." Also, > production and a solo or two from Mr. Tom Verlaine. I had once known that, but had forgotten it until after I got the original versions of the True West albums. The next day, for unrelated reasons, someone brought up that reissue on the Verlaine list, and mentioned that TW had recently done some reunion shows, supported by the also-reunited Windbreakers. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:30:15 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Memento, and More On 9/13/07, 2fs wrote: > > And I suspect that's part of what's going on here. > > It isn't Jesus on rollerskates juggling kittens with guns - but what is? "Immigrant Song"? Oh, sorry, that's marauding vikings, with whom I occasionally confuse Mr. Christ. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:42:58 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Memento, and More On 9/13/07, Rex wrote: > > On 9/13/07, 2fs wrote: > > > > > And I suspect that's part of what's going on here. > > > > It isn't Jesus on rollerskates juggling kittens with guns - but what is? > > "Immigrant Song"? > > Oh, sorry, that's marauding vikings, with whom I occasionally confuse > Mr. Christ.* You know, the conjunction of "Immigrant Song" with violence-prone kittens inevitably leads us to rathergood.com - which was a big deal three-four years ago. They had a video for "Immigrant Song" featuring Viking kittens. Sadly, it seems someone somewhere decided that copyright was being infringed (side note: Stephen Stills should have copyrighted his jackets...just so there could be a lawsuit about a suit that infringed his fringe) and they were withdrawn from the site. Before that happened, though, I ordered a t-shirt - featuring two or three very cute Viking kittens with the caption "Valhalla, I am coming!" Awesome. And, it just occurs to me, arguably a lower branch in the LOLCATS family tree. * I think someone should do a song parody, of "You're a Mean One, Mr. Grinch," using the phrase "Mr. Christ." And didn't Ozzy Osbourne refer to "Mr. Jesus" in some song or other? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:46:19 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: tl;dr (0% Roback content) > > I've been enjoying these reviews, Rex. Thanks! Did I miss the part > > where you told us where you were finding this stuff? > > I don't think I spelled it out really clearly, but wat happened was I > bought a car, and thus have music on my commute for the first time in > seven or eight years, and a CD player in my car for the first time > evahr, so I started burning a lot of stuff I'd accrued over the past > few years in digital form to CD for travel purposes. Ah, that splains that. I couldn't find downloads, legal or otherwise, for a couple of these (like that expanded Swimming Pool Q's debut) so I wondered where you'd found them. Apparently the answer is "in the past", which is way beyond my budget. I was able to buy that SPQ's reissue from their website for half what a used copy is going for, so that's cool. +brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 07:45:36 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #332 James said: >> >Logan's >> Run, which may well be the most bone-jarringly stupid movie ever made by >> anyone anywhere ever.> > >Of its type and era, you've got a direct comparison here: Que es mas >stupido, "Logan's Run" or "Zardoz"? ...I was gonna say something about putting James Bond / Danny Dravot / Jim Malone / Dr. Henry Jones, Sr. in some sort of a diaper for most of the movie tips the stupid balance to "Zardoz"...but, then I remembered the film's one mitigating factor: Charlotte Rampling Michael Sweeney ...she also graces my favorite film of all time (which most people either don't know or don't like): "Stardust Memories." _________________________________________________________________ Can you find the hidden words? Take a break and play Seekadoo! http://club.live.com/seekadoo.aspx?icid=seek_hotmailtextlink1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 08:40:29 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: tl;dr: radio headquarters, we're running low on dub and paisley! Rex wrote: >The Triffids, "Born Sandy Devotional". Straight from James's all-time top twenty list to my too long >don't read list. And not too far off the Paisleymark, from the sound of it. >A bit more orchestrated (and why bands from the city that gave birth to Pet Sounds didn't do much of >this in the '80's I could not say). The pedal steel is a lovely touch, not expected from a NZ band >especially. But from the start it feels very I don't know, coastal, be that the influence of the cover art or the first lyrics I can make out or something intrinsic to the music, I don't know. I'm only making out a fraction of those words, actually, but there is the feeling (and one shouldn't always trust those) that something more considered and individualistic is going on in the songwriting than in a lot of the more workmanlike material I've been auditioning. The arrangements, sense of storytelling, and in some ways the vocals on some of the darker songs suggest a blueprint for The Arcade Fire, or, I guess more relevantly, a parallel with the Bunnymen's "Ocean Rain". They also remind me of a less ostentatious version of a band that nobody's heard, The Passion Fodder (don't ask). There are enough intriguing elements interlocking here that I don't want to say too much more than that I think this might be very good indeed, and to that end, I'm dropping back into the queue to investigate further, sooner than later (and I have a few other Triffids records to check out in the meantime, for that most elusive of tools, context). What does the record's title mean, anyway? BSD is a favorite of mine, although I like the reissue of "In The Pines" almost as much. BSD also received a really nice reissue last year. The Triffids were actually from Perth, Australia. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 02:30:18 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #333 >The Triffids, "Born Sandy Devotional". Straight from James's all-time top >twenty list to my too long don't read list. And not too far off the >Paisleymark, from the sound of it. >A bit more orchestrated (and why bands from the city that gave birth to Pet >Sounds didn't do much of this in the '80's I could not say). The pedal >steel is a lovely touch, not expected from a NZ band especially. perhaps that's 'cause they're Aussies, not Kiwis :) From Perth, no less - about as far away from NZ as you can get without actually being in another hemisphere. >There are enough intriguing elements >interlocking here that I don't want to say too much more than that I think >this might be very good indeed, and to that end, I'm dropping back into the >queue to investigate further, sooner than later (and I have a few other >Triffids records to check out in the meantime, for that most elusive of >tools, context). What does the record's title mean, anyway? Good question. BTW, if you like the lusher, orchestral end of the Triffids' sound, I'd suggest Calenture as your next choice for investigation. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:03:37 -0400 From: Christopher Hintz Subject: Do You Know Where Robyn Hitchcock Lives? Anyone else stumble across this Damien Youth fellow, and his song, "I Know Where Robyn Hitchcock LIves"? He seems to be some cult rock overlooked self-producing dude from the deep South, though his attempts to sound Brit-psych are impressive. Maybe this has been mentioned by other fegs at other times? http://members.cox.net/damienyouth/index2.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 08:15:01 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Robyn in Ann Arbor? 11/11 @ The Ark. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:16:57 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Do You Know Where Robyn Hitchcock Lives? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Hintz Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 11:04 AM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Do You Know Where Robyn Hitchcock Lives? Anyone else stumble across this Damien Youth fellow, and his song, "I Know Where Robyn Hitchcock LIves"? He seems to be some cult rock overlooked self-producing dude from the deep South, though his attempts to sound Brit-psych are impressive. Maybe this has been mentioned by other fegs at other times? http://members.cox.net/damienyouth/index2.htm I wonder if it's a rewording of the Television Personalities "I Know Where Syd Barrett Lives"? Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 11:58:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Christopher Gross - please explain! On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, Jill Brand wrote: > Chris, you wrote this: [snip] Jeff has already explained this. I'll just add that Eddie and I have traded Dead Milkmen references in the past, hence his calling me out. They were one of my favorite bands when I was 16-19, and I still give them a listen on occasion; but alas, I never saw them live. I should also add that, while the Dick Van Dyke show was a bit before my time, I probably saw the entire run on Nick at Nite when I was in grad school in the early 90s. I don't think I fully appreciated the song until then. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:11:08 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #332 >Charlotte Rampling Oh yes. The Night Porter. The Swimming Pool. Even Farewell My Lovely with Robert Mitchum. Rampling doubleplusgood. >...she also graces my favorite film of all time (which most people either >don't know or don't like): "Stardust Memories." I don't remember any of the details except a lot of arty photojournalism, but I recall being impressed and also thinking it was about the least formulaic of Woody's movies. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:21:42 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: RE: tl;dr (0% Roback content) >Apparently the answer is "in the past", which is >way beyond my budget. As has been pointed out in various places the past is a much bigger place than the present. It also seems to be very expensive, which makes it hard to understand how so many people my age manage to live there. On the other hand, everybody winds up there sooner or later, so, six of one... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 08:46:17 -0400 From: "David Stovall" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #333 > >John Cale eats forest fires for breakfast, and then farts hurricanes. I thought it was Chuck Norris who did that. d9 /Chuck Norris and I have the same birthday. Well, did, 'til I gave it back to him. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:30:19 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: Memento, and More >(side note: Stephen Stills should have copyrighted his jackets...just so >there could be a lawsuit about a suit that infringed his fringe) Actually it was Neil who wore the fringe-y jackets. And Crosby. Stills' wardrobe in the Classic Era was more oriented toward sharp suits, often tastefully accented with a big ol' cowboy hat. Of course this was before his fondness for what he once described as "plenty good likkuh" caused him to balloon up to his present size - I suspect it would be about a 48 Rotund. Somebody could probably work up an interesting monograph on the inverse relation between Stills' waistline and the quality of his output. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 09:47:18 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #332 >"Omega Man". I'm of two minds about the Omega Man. It's pretty silly, but then it has Anthony Zerbe, an actor whose fundamental coolness is so complete that it transcends any of the grade-Q schlock he was always relegated to. And at the time it was released (what, 1970?), a lot of the South Bay street trash I used to hang with got a total rush from the ideological purity of its allegorical portrayal of The Last Waspy White Guy in a World Overrun by Hippies, Uppity Women, and Negroes. And the soundtrack from the scene where he's driving like a fool all over San Francisco figured prominently in the sound FX I put together for a play a few years back, so that's another plus. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 10:04:21 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #332 >Of its type and era, you've got a direct comparison here: Que es mas >stupido, "Logan's Run" or "Zardoz"? Total coin flip. Logan's Run is just plain stupid and awful; Zardoz is stupid, awful and vastly pretentious (based on seeing it once, on a little B&W TV at about 2 AM in what might be called an "altered state"). But Logan's Run has that scene with Peter Ustinov in the capitol building with two thousand cats. Of course John Boorman went on to make the excremental Excalibur, which not even Helen Mirren could salvage. Gotta wonder how much vaseline they used to get that misty soft-focus look. Not to mention the gallons of "blood" that looks like pink corn syrup. Jeez what a disaster. Not as bad as Zardoz, though. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:23:37 -0400 From: blatzman@aol.com Subject: Music Video Hello All- I just learned how to post videos to myspace and I put up an old music video/expermental film I did back in film school! Rex- you'll of course know Beautiful When You Cry. Anyway, it's a bit cheesy but it was shot and cut on 16mm film and all the effects were done in camera, so be kind!!!! Please take a look if you get a chance! Blatzy www.myspace.com/davesantosmusic ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 00:01:49 -0400 From: blatzman@aol.com Subject: Tropical Brainstorm!!! For what it's worth, I think I played Nao Esperando nonstop for a few months!!!! Ahhhhhhh, what a voice!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:23:57 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Memento, and More On 9/14/07, kevin wrote: > > > >(side note: Stephen Stills should have copyrighted his jackets...just so > >there could be a lawsuit about a suit that infringed his fringe) > > Actually it was Neil who wore the fringe-y jackets. And Crosby. Stills' > wardrobe in the Classic Era was more oriented toward sharp suits, often > tastefully accented with a big ol' cowboy hat. Of course this was before > his fondness for what he once described as "plenty good likkuh" caused him > to balloon up to his present size - I suspect it would be about a 48 Rotund. Good lord - he's bigger than Crosby ever was. Anyway: I could swear I've seen a famous photo w/Stills in one of those jackets. I knew Crosby wore them, and occasionally Young. Dunno about the "sharp suits" thing...I can think of an album cover with a football jersey and one with some sort of psychedelic print shirt-like thing (i.e., "can think of" because I just image-Googled him - also how I knew about his current size. Do you know that he know takes up two pictures?) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 15:30:26 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V16 #332 Kevin wrote: >Of course John Boorman went on to make the excremental Excalibur, which not even Helen Mirren could salvage. >Gotta wonder how much vaseline they used to get that misty soft-focus look. Not to mention the gallons of > "blood" that looks like pink corn syrup. Jeez what a disaster. Not as bad as Zardoz, though. John Boorman has certainly had an up and down career and received a lot of critisism over the years. I thought he did a very good job with Deliverance prior to Zardoz and Excalibur. Hope and Glory from 1987 was a nice little story about his growing up in England during WWII, and it was very well acted. A very un-Boorman like film to be sure. Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 15:49:29 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Memento, and More - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of kevin Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 12:30 PM To: 2fs; You F*ckers Subject: Re: Memento, and More >>(side note: Stephen Stills should have copyrighted his jackets...just >>so there could be a lawsuit about a suit that infringed his fringe) >Actually it was Neil who wore the fringe-y jackets. And Crosby. Stills' wardrobe in the Classic Era was more oriented toward sharp suits, often tastefully accented with a big ol' cowboy hat. Of course this was before his fondness for what he once described as "plenty good likkuh" caused him to balloon up to his present size - I suspect it would be about a 48 Rotund. >Somebody could probably work up an interesting monograph on the inverse relation between Stills' waistline and the quality of his output. Has Stills done anything decent since the first Manassas album back in 1972? That's the latest album I have with him in it anyway. Michael B. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #334 ********************************