From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #332 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, September 13 2007 Volume 16 : Number 332 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Of "Eb" and Oceanography ["Michael Sweeney" ] My name is "G-d", and when I jack off, it means I'm very sad (but also happy in a way) ["Stacked Crooked" <] Re: My name is "G-d", and when I jack off, it means I'm very sad (but also happy in a way) [2fs ] Re: My name is "Bonzo", and when I jack off, it means I'm very sad (but also happy in a way) [2fs ] Re: tl;dr (0% Roback content) [Rex ] Re: tl;dr (0% Roback content) [Rex ] Re: My name is "Bonzo", and when I jack off, it means I'm very sad (but also happy in a way) [2fs ] Re: Digging the Sound [Rex ] Re: My name is "Bonzo", and when I jack off, it means I'm very sad (but also happy in a way) [Jeff Dwarf] Re: tl;dr (0% Roback content) [Rex ] Re: tl;dr (0% Roback content) [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: tl;dr (0% Roback content) [lep ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 03:29:18 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: Of "Eb" and Oceanography Tom Clark said: >I got the "Viagra High Score of the Week"! Erections FTW! ...Yeah, and I got the third-highest point-total in the league and a loss (and no four-hour woody, either)...but...well done, sir! Michael Sweeney ...and, sure, it's _easy_ to have a Viagra-worthy score when yer whole friggin' offense is practically either Pats or Colts..." _________________________________________________________________ Share your special parenting moments! http://www.reallivemoms.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 20:39:55 -0700 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: My name is "G-d", and when I jack off, it means I'm very sad (but also happy in a way) <<>> <> i actually found it on bayard's FTP server, while looking for something else! so, feel free to leave your computer in portland-town! i'd love to hear that; but it's probably more appropriate for dimeadozen. 'd probably receive quite a few downloads, too, owing to the meloy content. if you don't have a dime account, i'd be happy to seed it for you. by the way, question: meloy had presmably already taken up residence in portland-town at the time of the happening of this event; but, were the decemberists yet a going concern? <16 months and 8 days from now when the new Prez takes over we will still have well over 100,000 troops in Iraq no doubt, and Bush will get away with pushing the problem of solving Iraq to his successor.> it's only a "problem" because we have no intention of ever leaving. (i'm sure you've read about the new "embassy" in baghdad, for example. gee, wonder if new orleans will ever receive similar attention?) the "problem" would actually be very easy for the next administration to solve: immediately withdraw all troops; pay reparations; stop giving weapons to israel, arabia, egypt, and turkey; and start minding our own fucking business. stupid it most certainly is. but more stupider than *The Sixth Sense*, *Memento*, *Shawshank*, or any of the *Star Wars* prequels it most certainly is NOT. fair enough. but east-coast humidity is enough to make a sane man crazy (spot the reference, chris g.!) -- and, east-coast don't have the bumbershoot... hey, those blocks can be freakin' dangerous! (i'm thinking of mona using them to finger helmer in *Kingdom II*.) sorry to sound so fucking cynical (it being wednesday and all), but, most likely all of them would have. while i suppose it may be conceivable that some of them may have been unaware of the simple fact -- easily grasped by 85% of the world's population -- that saddam posed absolutely no threat to even neighbouring states, let alone to the US of A; given the resources at congress' disposal, one can't but find it to have in those cases been naught but willful ignorance. remember, on only *one* occasion (correct me if i'm wrong) did the bush or blair administrations attempt to give any shred of evidence to support its claims of the "grave and growing danger": colin powell at the UN. whose presentation was so ridiculous that he was virtually laughed out of the building. yet did one single solitary fucking democratic congressman so much as raise an eyebrow? right. and did one single solitary fucking democratic congressman then stand up and say, "hey, wait a minute. what's the rush?" even among those that voted *against* the resolution? (probably were a few of the latter, actually; though i can't recall any specific instances.) all one need know about the state of the democratic party (uh, were we speaking of rotting corpses just now?) was shewn in 2004 -- long after the state of saddam's WMD "programmes" were widely known to even those congressmen so dumbfucked to be bordering on mental retardation (tom delay, for example) -- when john kerry opened his nomination-acceptance speech with a fucking military salute, and a declaration that he was "reporting for duty". fuck him, and fuck them. nader in '08, baby. i think it's the movie i saw more times in the theater than any other (*Hudsucker Proxy* would be the only real contender). but watched it again, for the first time in a loooooooong time, a few years ago (i guess it would've been upon the release of the boxed-set), and didn't think it had aged so well. speaking of dime, didja see that led zep are to play their first concert since bonham's passing? methinks that torrent'll break all known dime downloading records. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:51:25 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: My name is "G-d", and when I jack off, it means I'm very sad (but also happy in a way) On 9/12/07, Stacked Crooked wrote: > > > Run, which may well be the most bone-jarringly stupid movie ever made by > anyone anywhere ever.> > > stupid it most certainly is. but more stupider than *The Sixth Sense*, > *Memento*, *Shawshank*, or any of the *Star Wars* prequels it most > certainly is NOT. I believe we're talking about several different kinds of stupid here - but I'm not sure in what way you see _Memento_ as being stupid. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:09:21 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: My name is "Bonzo", and when I jack off, it means I'm very sad (but also happy in a way) On Wednesday, September 12, 2007, at 08:43PM, "Stacked Crooked" wrote: > > >speaking of dime, didja see that led zep are to play their first concert >since bonham's passing? methinks that torrent'll break all known dime >downloading records. > They played Live Aid. Frankly I'm not looking forward to it. Page has always been sloppy live and hasn't played a decent lick since '77. Plant can't hit those notes anymore but still tries - to his embarrassment. JPJ, on the other hand, has made lots of new friends recently... - -tc, huge Zep fan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:32:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: My name is "Bonzo", and when I jack off, it means I'm very sad (but also happy in a way) Tom Clark wrote: > [Led Zeppelin] played Live Aid. Frankly I'm not looking forward > to it. Page has always been sloppy live and hasn't played a > decent lick since '77. Plant can't hit those notes anymore but > still tries - to his embarrassment. JPJ, on the other hand, has > made lots of new friends recently... I think they also did a few songs at the Atlantic Records 40th anniversary event in 1988 or so. And Page wasn't even the lead guitarist for the Plant and Page reunion thing -- Porl Thompson (Robert Smith's brother-in-law, then inbetween stints in The Cure) was. "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:35:42 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: tl;dr episode iv: a new hope (sandoval) On 9/12/07, 2fs wrote: > > I thought I'd read that that hissing sound was someone setting off a fire > hydrant, or something like that. Extinguisher, surely? Although that hydrant thing would be cool, too. The Black Angel likes to help the neighborhood kids keep cool on a hot summer day, you know. Until they say so long to their skulls, of course. > And what does Robert Hilburn etc etc etc. Ah, the other TNP. It IS nice to know that Goldie Hawn has got a tortured soul. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:40:24 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: tl;dr episode iv: a new hope (sandoval) On 9/12/07, Rex wrote: > > On 9/12/07, 2fs wrote: > > > > > I thought I'd read that that hissing sound was someone setting off a > fire > > hydrant, or something like that. > > Extinguisher, surely? Crap. No, actually I meant a fire truck - or maybe a firehouse, or perhaps a fire chief. A forest fire? I dunno. John Cale eats forest fires for breakfast, and then farts hurricanes. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:41:25 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Nazi Whores On 9/12/07, Michael Sweeney wrote: > ...The "Bond girls" excuse / approach (maintained on-and-off these many > years by Spielberg and / or Lucas) may have some root in reality...but I'm > old enough / enough of a fan / plugged in enough (and enough of a Karen > Allen fan) to recall that they were at least _trying_ to get her for the 2nd > film...and when that didn't work (or she wasn't as interested...or it was > the $$$), they ended up using the "prequel" / "Bond girls" excuse. I recall that, too. And if I remember correctly, there was some big pissoff between Spielberg and whatsername, the mom in ET, right? I remember kind of hearing about those things and actually thinking, oh no, Spielberg doesn't have a problem with women, does he? Kind of the first time I saw one of my heroes as possibly fallible. Yeah, Spielberg and Lucas counted as heroes in my early life. So? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 23:42:52 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: My name is "Bonzo", and when I jack off, it means I'm very sad (but also happy in a way) On 9/12/07, Tom Clark wrote: > > On Wednesday, September 12, 2007, at 08:43PM, "Stacked Crooked" < > etews@inwa.net> wrote: > > > > > >speaking of dime, didja see that led zep are to play their first concert > >since bonham's passing? methinks that torrent'll break all known dime > >downloading records. > > > > They played Live Aid. Frankly I'm not looking forward to it. Page has > always been sloppy live and hasn't played a decent lick since '77. Plant > can't hit those notes anymore but still tries - to his embarrassment. JPJ, > on the other hand, has made lots of new friends recently... I dunno...Plant's shown a lot of growth and admirable vocal restraint on his own records lately. But I think you're right: Page is the weak link. Don't know if that's because of your basic rock'n'roll lifestyle flaws, or whether he was just too lazy to practice at those other reunions. So whore they using to play drums? Oh dear - left out an apostrophe. Wouldn't want to imply they're doing this only for money. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 13:10:16 -0400 (EDT) From: djini@voicenet.com Subject: Re: My name is "Eb": Somebody get me a cheeseburger Tom Clark wrote: >> Thanks Tom! Isn't there a Bay Area feg list as well? I must subscribe in due time... > On Sep 4, 2007, at 1:15 AM, Stacked Crooked wrote: >> i assumed she meant portland, maine. but i agree that pittsburgh's a helluva interesting city. must say, however, that, in general, pennsylvania can kiss my dimpled ass. Oh no, I most certainly did mean Oregon. In fact, I promised my friend in Seattle that next year I will be able to drive up to Bumbershoot! I like Maine and all, but the winters are too harsh for me. And I am ready to get away from the East Coast. I'm so tired of being "the weird one" - looks like in Portland I can be one of the weird many. I'm very much looking forward to investigating the music scene there. One of the things I liked about Pittsburgh is that though (relatively) small, there was something to do almost every night if I wanted, within a reasonable distance. From talking with friends who live there, Portland seems to be similar - and I won't be in school and having to stay in to do homework! Jeanne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:33:43 -0400 From: blatzman@aol.com Subject: Digging the Sound Rex writes of the Sound "the thing about this band is that back in the early '90's I played in this '80's sounding band that everybody hated because we sounded all '80's and postpunk, right? And a couple of those guys were really into The Sound, which I thought was funny because I'd never heard of them" DUDE- You're not referring to me as "A couple of those guys", are you???? I don't remember any of the other members of our band listening to them! I was crazy for Borland. But for my money, it's all about the EP Shock of Daylight. Sure, my favorite Sound song is found on All Fall Down (Monument), but I find their later output to have higher highs and not so low lows, but still, I don't think they were ever able to put out a truly breathtaking long play. In retrospect, I think that The Sound just failed to write that one big radio song that would have garnered them more attention. Really, do you hear "One Thousand Reasons" having the same lasting punch as say, "U2's Pride? All Sound singles were pretty morose affairs, weren't they? Of course, this isn't the case with the last record Thunder Up, which was fairly upbeat and poppy, but that didn't do much so what the hell do I know???? Blatzy, One of those guys who adored the Sound, but would also highly recomend Max Eider, who is about to put out a new CD so please check it out cause Maxy don't disappoint!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:56:23 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: My name is "Bonzo", and when I jack off, it means I'm very sad (but also happy in a way) On 9/12/07, 2fs wrote: o lazy to practice at those other reunions. > > So whore they using to play drums? In her defense, whe wasn't really a Nazi, just... oh, sorry, wrong thread... Jason Bonham has been the drummer for all the reunion gigs, right? Oh my. Zeppelin is now realer than The Who. Maybe Ringo's kid can be in both! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:58:21 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: My name is "Bonzo", and when I jack off, it means I'm very sad (but also happy in a way) On Sep 12, 2007, at 9:42 PM, 2fs wrote: > On 9/12/07, Tom Clark wrote: > They played Live Aid. Frankly I'm not looking forward to it. Page > has always been sloppy live and hasn't played a decent lick since > '77. Plant can't hit those notes anymore but still tries - to his > embarrassment. JPJ, on the other hand, has made lots of new > friends recently... > > I dunno...Plant's shown a lot of growth and admirable vocal > restraint on his own records lately. Yeah - on his own stuff. I don't know if he can help himself when it comes to "Black Dog" though. > > But I think you're right: Page is the weak link. Don't know if > that's because of your basic rock'n'roll lifestyle flaws, or > whether he was just too lazy to practice at those other reunions. > > So whore they using to play drums? > > Oh dear - left out an apostrophe. Wouldn't want to imply they're > doing this only for money. Jason Bonham will be doing an inadequate job of filling in. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:01:51 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: Of "Eb" and iPods On Sep 12, 2007, at 11:16 AM, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > I got my new iPod Classic 160GB today :-) I had a 60 GB (4G??) > before, but that was already full again. I hope the 160 (150 net) > are enough for the next few years. I'm also going from a 60 to a 160. Stayed up way too late last night importing and I'm at it again. After bringing in a pile of CDs I told my wife that it's not gonna be big enough. But I want to know who thought it would be a good idea to display album covers at an angle. I guess SJ signed off on it. > Of course I'd've prefered an iPod Touch with that capacity ... I would have paid another 100 bucks for that. - - Steve __________ Now importing: Eberhard Weber - Silent Feet. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:01:59 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: tl;dr (0% Roback content) On 9/12/07, Brian Huddell wrote: > I've been enjoying these reviews, Rex. Thanks! Did I miss the part where > you told us where you were finding this stuff? I don't think I spelled it out really clearly, but wat happened was I bought a car, and thus have music on my commute for the first time in seven or eight years, and a CD player in my car for the first time evahr, so I started burning a lot of stuff I'd accrued over the past few years in digital form to CD for travel purposes. So I got fired up about actual albums after spending several years listening to everything on "shuffle". >Are we talking those store > thingys with the walls and shelves and all? It'd probably be really tough to find a lot of those records in such a place! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:07:57 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: tl;dr (0% Roback content) On 9/12/07, lep wrote: > Brian Huddell says: > > I've been enjoying these reviews, Rex. > > yes, here as well, and i keep meaning to ask you when you acquired the > team of clones to help with all the writing. > > (you and your clones would laugh if i told you how long it would take > me to write one of those posts with the same error-to-KB-of-text > ratio. or maybe just pat me on the head and give me some blocks to > play with.) I would laugh, yes. But my clones are totally humorless. They're kinda pissing me off, actually... I turn my back and they've kinda inserted five or six more instances of words like "kinda" and "and so forth", and so forth. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:12:20 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: My name is "Bonzo", and when I jack off, it means I'm very sad (but also happy in a way) On 9/12/07, Tom Clark wrote: > > > > Jason Bonham will be doing an inadequate job of filling in. I think _An Inadequate Job of Filling In_ should be someone's album title. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:37:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: tl;dr (0% Roback content) Rex wrote: > The Cure, "Seventeen Seconds". No, never heard this before, and I > don't think I recognize a single song. I was momentarily inclined to ask, "not even "A Forest," but that could be more famous among Cure fans than the public at large. > Which is not to say it's not good, but > it's really an almost astonishingly primitive and minimalist > recording. There is as little of everything as possible, it > seems. The drum machine rhythms are as basic as they get, and > there's usually just one guitar part per song, invariably a > repeating minor key sequence that's all high end and chorus > pedal -- it sounds like no amplifiers were harmed, or even > utilized, in the making of this record. Also, the keyboard Matthieu Hartley played could only produce one note at a time. In the re-issue liner notes, RS says that he wanted to make an album that was a hybrid of Low, Five Leaves Left, Hendrix's Live Isle of Wight, Astral Weeks, and Khachaturian's Gayeneh Ballet Suite, for whatever that's worth. > I can't make out much of what Robert Smith is > saying. It's kinda like "I Often Dream of Trains" with beats, > sounding a set of particularly anguished demos that just had to be > released as-is. I can see why this was compelling, and I actually > like it a good deal, but it seems like such an anomaly for its > time, at least as a release for an up-and-coming band, and it's > very hard to reconcile this with the kind(s) of beast(s) The Cure > would become, both in terms of the lush sound and the > songwriting. Other than Disintegration (which just might out-Ocean Rain Ocean Rain), The Cure really don't have that many moment of Bunnymen-ish big music. Nothing as stark as Seventeen Seconds (of course), but clean and direct for the most part, almost nothing that couldn't have been recorded on 8-track -- and frequently 4-track -- until KM3. And from KM on, the big change in songwriting was just that it became truly collaborative, with the rest of The Cure# contributing to the songwriting in a major way (except the lyrics) instead of RS doing all the writing completely on his own. > I've never heard "Pornography" all the way through, > either, but am I to believe it's darker than this? Sheesh. > Darker I can imagine -- starker, no way. If Pornography was a guy, he's be covered in blood and vomit (both his own and other people's) and he would have just come out of a bathroom where he fucked Courtney Love without a condom. But in a good way. It's darker, scarier, far more brutal, and much angrier, with loud drum machines and loud, howling guitars. Seventeen Seconds is the sound of someone who just wants to stay and bed and sleep too much; Pornography is someone punching out his bedroom windows and then setting things on fire. The opening lyrics (which I point out here, as it is required by the UN) are "It doesn't matter if we all die," and the mood kinda goes downhill from there. The final lyric is also one of the best worst jokes ever "I must fight this sickness, find The Cure*." In the liner notes to the re-issue, they quote some guy from the NME who said it sounded like Phil Spector in hell, which is fairly apt. In the end though, it's also the kind of dark that comes right before the light though (which is why it kinda made sense that the next Cure release was one of the goofiest pop moments, "Let's Go to Bed," even if no one knew it at the time.) #Except Laurence Tolhurst, who was eventually fired for being too drunk and stoned to be in The Cure, which eventually worked out better for him than similar firings did for Bob Stinson and Steven Adler, in that he's alive, clean and sober, and otherwise in pretty good shape, and neither dead nor debilitated by drug-use related strokes. *The lyric sheets all say "find _a_ cure," but I don't believe them. "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:42:58 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Digging the Sound On 9/12/07, blatzman@aol.com wrote: > Rex writes of the Sound > > "the thing about this band is that back in the early '90's I played in > this '80's sounding band that everybody hated because we sounded all > '80's and postpunk, right? And a couple of > those guys were really into The Sound, which I thought was funny > because I'd > never heard of them" > > DUDE- > You're not referring to me as "A couple of those guys", are you???? Wouldn't it be cool to be a couple of guy? The flexibility... Lar had and has at least a passing familiarity with them, too. I might've confated that slightly with The Chameleons, who you guys both loved and I didn't know at all, but I absorbed *that* catalog a long time ago. Anyhow, a little too late, thank you for the recommendations! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:41:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: My name is "Bonzo", and when I jack off, it means I'm very sad (but also happy in a way) 2fs wrote: > So whore they using to play drums? > > Oh dear - left out an apostrophe. Wouldn't want to imply they're > doing this only for money. Given that it's a charity gig.... And the drummer is going to be Jason Bonham. "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:49:26 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: tl;dr (0% Roback content) On 9/12/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > If Pornography was a guy, he's be covered in blood and vomit (both > his own and other people's) and he would have just come out of a > bathroom where he fucked Courtney Love without a condom. But in a > good way. And now I'm to be told that "Faith" is darker still? Saints preserve us and hot young stuff! - -Rex, wondering why that particular Thurstonism didn't find the pop culture traction of, say, "my bad"... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:46:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: tl;dr (0% Roback content) Rex wrote: > On 9/12/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > If Pornography was a guy, he's be covered in blood and vomit > > (both his own and other people's) and he would have just come > > out of a bathroom where he fucked Courtney Love without a > > condom. But in a good way. > > And now I'm to be told that "Faith" is darker still? Saints > preserve us and hot young stuff! A bit darker than Seventeen Seconds, but Faith is still comfortably in the meloncholy -- but not Mellon Collie -- zone. It also has an actual pop song on it ("Primary"). But it's not the howling ball of intoxicated violence that Pornography is. > -Rex, wondering why that particular Thurstonism didn't find the pop > culture traction of, say, "my bad"... "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 04:33:08 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: tl;dr (0% Roback content) Jeff Dwarf says: > > I've never heard "Pornography" all the way through, > > either, but am I to believe it's darker than this? Sheesh. > > Darker I can imagine -- starker, no way. > > If Pornography was a guy, he's be covered in blood and vomit (both > his own and other people's) and he would have just come out of a > bathroom where he fucked Courtney Love without a condom. But in a > good way. > > It's darker, scarier, far more brutal, and much angrier, with loud > drum machines and loud, howling guitars. Seventeen Seconds is the > sound of someone who just wants to stay and bed and sleep too much; > Pornography is someone punching out his bedroom windows and then > setting things on fire. The opening lyrics (which I point out here, > as it is required by the UN) are "It doesn't matter if we all die," > and the mood kinda goes downhill from there. The final lyric is also > one of the best worst jokes ever "I must fight this sickness, find > The Cure*." In the liner notes to the re-issue, they quote some guy > from the NME who said it sounded like Phil Spector in hell, which is > fairly apt. In the end though, it's also the kind of dark that comes > right before the light though (which is why it kinda made sense that > the next Cure release was one of the goofiest pop moments, "Let's Go > to Bed," even if no one knew it at the time.) and no one writes a love song like "siamese twins" anymore. it always seemed to be 4am when i listened to that record. as ever, lauren - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #332 ********************************