From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #325 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, September 8 2007 Volume 16 : Number 325 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: tg;if ----> tl;dr [2fs ] Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) ["Michael Swe] Fwd: Stupid NYC apartment hunting ["Michael Sweeney" ] Re: tg;if ----> tl;dr [Rex ] Trapped in the IFC (0% RH content; far too much R. Kelly content) ["Micha] The Only Ones, Carling Academy, Bristol, 7 Sept 2007 [hssmrg@bath.ac.uk] Re: lyric question [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: TV [Jill Brand ] RE: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) ["michael wel] RE: reap ["michael wells" ] Re: tg;if ----> tl;dr ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) [2fs tl;dr [2fs ] Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) [Sebastian Ha] Re: Trapped in the IFC (0% RH content; far too much R. Kelly content) [le] Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) [Tom Clark ] Re: Trapped in the IFC (0% RH content; far too much R. Kelly content) [T] Re: movie talk [lep ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 20:22:47 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: tg;if ----> tl;dr On 9/7/07, Rex wrote: > > > After that I put on the Panda Bear record again, and generally liked it > while still finding it a bit bewildering, so I guess I'll actually have to > get some background information. Then Caribou again, making for a few > hours > of very breathy vocalizing, but the Caribou thing is rapidly growing on > me. > It kinda makes me want to shake my ass (but don't worry, I won't), and > features some of the most consistently high-pitched bass playing I've > heard > since the heyday of Galaxie 500. "Desiree" is a bit much for me, and I > could do without the instrumental and the epic-but-ambient closer. Still, > I'm quite pleased with the recommendations of these seemingly (home?) > studio-based creations > In that YouTube video I linked to a few days back, Snaith (who basically is Caribou) says that pretty much everything that needs a mic is recorded with one "cheap condenser mic" in the ratty little, record-covered room you see in the video, and then manipulated & layered on the computer. (I'm just amazed he uses only the one mic!) So, home-recorded, yeah...but no longer home recording as we once knew it, Jim. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 01:32:47 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) Kevin said: >>[me:] Yeah -- I remember that too...and it's been a looooooooooong time. >>I think >>that O'Rourke (the ol' self-proclaimed "Pants-down Republican": >>[remembered >>approx. quote] "We want to drive very fast with the top down while >>drinking a vodka martini and having our wing-wang squeezed by a young >>girl...") also >>absorbed way too much Hunter S. Thompson (as did many of us!) without >>getting the related memo that that particular style and approach had >>exactly one allowed practioner...(and, besides, he's cannon-shot to >>oblivion now). > >It was a genius Lampoon piece titled "How To Drive Fast On Drugs While >Getting >Your Wing-Wang Squeezed Without Spilling Your Drink." One of the best >things >Peej ever wrote. And when it was reprinted in one of his first collections >after his conversion (Republican With a Mohawk, maybe?) I noticed that all >the >references to heroin - which were some of the vilest, most disgustingly >funny >things in the piece - had been deleted, and I felt like a rancid, filthy >light >had gone out of the world. ...Yep -- that's what I was thinking of...funny then, dumbed down later, looking like somewhat of a last gasp now in retrospect. When I mentioned to my GF earlier about the O'Rourke (and NatLamp) mentions in this thread, she replied (referring to Doug Kenney), "Yeah, the wrong one fell off the cliff some 20 years ago." And I can't argue with that... Michael Sweeney ...Similarly, if only _Jim_ Belushi had had the drug problem 25 years ago, we might've gotten to see some fine latter-day work from John AND be spared both "According to Jim" and Jim's annoyingly ubiquitous appearances at seemingly every nationally televised Bears games...I mean, they're the frickin' charter franchise in the league -- you'd think they might have more than one celebrity fan (and a half-baked one, at that)... _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE small business Web site and more from Microsoft. Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0930003811mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 01:44:35 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Fwd: Stupid NYC apartment hunting Jeff-eff-eff wrote: >On 9/7/07, m swedene wrote: > >>Let me tell you Fegs. Those of you out of the NYC area, be happy with >>the apartment market. Here in the city it sucks. The wife, myself >>and our 8lb dog have been having a hell of a time finding a new place. >>We need to be out by the 30th. >> >>Tosay we saw a basement, yes a basement, in Queens for $1300. There >>was one room, one itty bitty closet, the smell of mold and one window. >>The room we would have been allowed to use was 10' x 16' with a half >>of bath. > >See, I'd suggest you just buy a Hummer... ...I always thought you just sorta _rented_ those...Oh, wait: you meant the car...Never mind. Michael Sweeney ...so, if Rudy says Times Square is so friendly now and New York is safer than ever, why the hell does he want to move to Washington? (like there's a chance in hell of _that_ happening, anyway)... _________________________________________________________________ Can you find the hidden words? Take a break and play Seekadoo! http://club.live.com/seekadoo.aspx?icid=seek_hotmailtextlink1 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 02:14:06 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) Lauren said: >Sebastian says: >>>[me:] I was so much younger (prob. as a pre-teen National Lampoon peeker >>>(come >>>for the occasional '70s nudity, stay for the subversive humor)) when I >>>first read the humorous anti-French couplet that starts "The French they >>>are a funny race..." that I misinterpreted the "fight with their feet" >>>part to somehow be referring to Kung Fu (hey, the show was popular then) >>>-- and that just did not seem to make sense... >> >>So what *does* it refer to? It's late, I'm halfway drunk and don't get it > >i'd guess that it refers to their running away. the french >surrendering is one of the two or three first stereotypes that we >learn about the french in the u.s., and i guess running would kind of >count as surrendering. ...Yeah, that was it -- the alleged running away (as I finally figured out once I realized it DID NOT mean any sort of Eastern Foot Fighting discipline)...and, for those late arriving (or who just never heard it), the whole, ribald thing goes like this: The French they are a funny race They fight with their feet and fuck with their face... ...So, a bit harsh, perhaps...but, after the "pregnant dog" joke, I feel like it almost sounds somewhat pro-French...lol... Michael "Don't get me started on the Belgians!" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ More photos; more messages; more whatever. Windows Live Hotmail - NOW with 5GB storage. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_5G_0907 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 20:27:02 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) Quite frankly, I like the French, but what the hell... On Sep 7, 2007, at 7:14 PM, Michael Sweeney wrote: > ...Yeah, that was it -- the alleged running away (as I finally > figured out once I realized it DID NOT mean any sort of Eastern > Foot Fighting discipline)...and, for those late arriving (or who > just never heard it), the whole, ribald thing goes like this: > > The French they are a funny race > They fight with their feet and fuck with their face... The girls is all salty The boys is all sweet The food ain't too shabby, An' they piss in the street In France Way down in France Way on down Way on down In France They got diseases Like you never seen Got a mystery blow-job Turn your peter green In France Way down in France Way on down Way on down In France They got some coffee Eatin' right through the cup, An' when they go ka-ka They make you stand up In France Way down in France Way on down Way on down In France - -FZ > > Michael "Don't get me started on the Belgians!" Sweeney Belgians are very cool. Hug someone in the Grande Place. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 21:28:33 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: TV On 9/7/07, Michael Sweeney wrote: > ...In (semi-) defense: Well, it _is_ baseball season, my baseball team _is_ > in first (at least for another day), and there _are_ 162 games in a season > (plus: here comes football...and my team _did_ go to the Superb Owl last > year...) I still love that. Here's some minutiae for you: right now I'm wearing a t-shirt that I got for free when I went to see a band in which a friend of mine is playing tuba. They're called Owl Owl. And I really had to restrain myself from going up to the lead singer/songwriter afer the show and saying, "That's an interesting name, but you know what would be better? Superb Owl! 'Cuz, you see..." I also like the idea of the S.O. as something you strive to reach, against daunting odds..."Yes, son, someday we will make it to the Superb Owl... I swear it with my dying breath..." - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 21:34:11 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: tg;if ----> tl;dr On 9/7/07, 2fs wrote: > In that YouTube video I linked to a few days back, Snaith (who basically is > Caribou) says that pretty much everything that needs a mic is recorded with > one "cheap condenser mic" in the ratty little, record-covered room you see > in the video, and then manipulated & layered on the computer. (I'm just > amazed he uses only the one mic!) Have to go back and look at that. I almost accidentally started making such a recording with the mic built into my laptop in garage band, because my mixer was broken and it was just too easy to record the guitar and vocal with the thing... then I got curious as to how it would sound if I kept going that way... then I got lazy and didn't want to set up a bass amp. But I can imagine quite an art to it... although I can't approve of what Snaith did to Dumbledore... What? It's not a spoiler if you get the character's name wrong by the whole final consonant sound, is it? - -Severus Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 07:23:03 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Trapped in the IFC (0% RH content; far too much R. Kelly content) OK -- this is almost too surreal to contemplate. As I type this (early Sat., 1:55 am CDST), the usually reliable Independent Film Channel is showing approx. 90 mins worth of R. Kelly's insanely stoopid "Trapped in the Closet" videos (the apparently recently released parts 13 to 22, as the channel guide info tells me) ("parts 13 to 22"? sweet chocolate Jeebus (thanx, Lauren) -- like anyone was clamoring for _that_?!?). And to think I was so rough on Roger Waters for his attempts at stretching approx. one sub-standard melody into to 40-some minutes of "The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking" -- by comparison, this highly polished turd is like taking one thin pint of gruel and trying to stretch / dilute it into a massive-throng-feeding cauldron of tepid bathwater... My god... As my GF just said, "This is like a fever dream." Midgets, guns, cigars, pregnancies, down-low hoods, accidental speaker phone broadcast secrets -- I can't even begin to catalog the bizarre bits and pieces encompassed in this swirling stew of incomprehensibility. Now, I had seen a few fragments of the original video to this like, what?, last year?, when it was initially semi-popular...but, by now, after all the ridicule (AND the ongoingly delayed trial that Kelly will eventually be facing here in Chicago) I don't know what's harder to believe: his actually putting out more of this crap...OR IFC actually devoting airtime to it... No -- wait: I know what's harder to believe...that I spent any time watching this and writing about it. I know this is some 20 minutes I won't ever get back in the rapidly draining (but not rapidly enough, it seems right now, as this continues to run) hourglass of my life...But, much like "The Kramer" (the painting in that episode of "Seinfeld"), this is "loathsome, offensive...yet I can't look away." Michael Sweeney ...In the "it's a small world" dept., while working occasional construction more than a decade ago (during slow freelancing period), I helped pump concrete into the basement pool that Kelly was having built in his North Side building (on George St., I think it was)...which was also where the (alleged) pre-teen "water bottle" video incident also happened...I feel like I need a shower just remembering that (plus watching the videos)... _________________________________________________________________ Test your celebrity IQ. Play Red Carpet Reveal and earn great prizes! http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=redcarpet_hotmailtextlink2 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 09:04:38 +0100 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: The Only Ones, Carling Academy, Bristol, 7 Sept 2007 Good news, Rex, Alex, Hilary et al. I can confirm that the line-up of The Only Ones was identical to that when I last saw them, viz: Mike Kellie, drums and backing vocals ("he's got to be the best drummer in the whole world" - P Perrett) Alan Mair, bass guitar and backing vocals John Perry, sensational Stratocaster and backing vocals Peter Perrett, Telecaster and lead vocals (changed to a Les Paul on one song). They opened with 'Even Serpents Shine', followed by one of my favourites, 'Miles from Nowhere', then 'I'm always in the wrong place at the wrong time'. At this juncture my pen started to flood, unnoticed by me, so the rest of my notes are blotchy, but as far as I can make out, they then read: 'There was no one around to cause me danger' 'Face of time' / 'Something's going wrong' (That might be one song or two: I think that one of them was a very good new song) 'Lovers of today' ("This was our first single") 'Ashamed of you' (or 'The shame of you'?) New song: (another incomprehensible squiggle) 'You were wrong' 'Don't ... (unreadable) 'I can't take it any more' 'The Big Sleep' 'Another Girl Another Planet' 'The Beast' Peter Perrett sloped off stage during the instrumental coda of 'The Beast', followed by the rest of the band. They returned for the compulsory encores: Me and My Shadow (Bo Diddley beat song, including brief Mike Kellie drum feature, John Perry on slide guitar) The Whole of the Law Why Don't You Kill Yourself? I won't say I was distraught at the lack of 'City of Fun' and 'Sometimes I think of you out there in the night', but I was a bit disappointed. The band were playing confidently and well - specially Alan Mair, who did a few of the announcements and looked contented as a Persian cat at being on stage. John Perry was stunning as always, specially on 'The Beast'. Small reservation: Peter Perrett's voice has become slightly more Donald Duck-like than before, but you could hear him perfectly well. I was beside the desk for most of the set, and two people came up separately and asked for the vocals to be turned up, which request was commendably ignored by the sound engineer. And what other band would finish with a number with a title like that? - - Mike Godwin n.p. Willie and the Jeepers on Sounds of the Sixties. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 11:29:51 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: lyric question - -- Rex is rumored to have mumbled on 7. September 2007 17:25:02 -0700 regarding Re: lyric question: > On 9/7/07, craigie* wrote: >> >> My last TV crush was Kellie Martin (Lucy Green in ER)... >> >> mweowrrrrr.... >> > > There have been some attractive women on that show, from the beginning > until I left off (when they had just added that superhawt Indian > actress... damn...)... Parminder Nagra. Another reason to keep watching. I absolutely fell in love with her in "Bend It Like Beckham", but I gotta say that I don't like the way her Neela is written. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 06:58:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: Re: TV On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Rex wrote: > I also like the idea of the S.O. as something you strive to reach, > against daunting odds..."Yes, son, someday we will make it to the > Superb Owl... I swear it with my dying breath..." > Well, in Harry Potter, students *do* strive for O.W.Ls, otherwise known as Ordinary Wizarding Levels. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 06:39:33 -0700 From: "michael wells" Subject: RE: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) Herr Chris: > My roommate would have purchased the book for the 1987-88 school year, so I imagine it was written sometime in the early to mid '80s. I took years of German in the mid-80's and it was presented to us 'off the record' that universal-Frau would be fine. It seemed to me a natural usage that implied personal respect (plus it meant that I had to memorize less stuff). Then again our high-school German teacher was an older bitch in white leather, so TIFWIW. Sebastian: > My one class there brought me a whole new level of understanding of linguistic stratification. The discussion of overt and covert incentives for e.g. dropping your aitches was a real eye (or should I say ear) opener. Now that sounds like a class I would be interested in! Was this voluntary or required for your degree, Sebastian? And I think salad should definitely be neutral, like Switzerland, don't you? I've seen some salads that seem masculine - I'm thinking a giant steak fajita salad or perhaps Cobb here - but I can't really get behind the idea of masculine mescalin. And if you feel I worked too hard for that joke, you're probably not alone. Tom: > Nothing can come close to how much I hate Philly sports fans though. Even Max? 'Cause Max is really cool. Gene: >Robyn should have traded his Cadillac for a microphone. It's surprising how many friends/co-workers from out of town ask if we're near such-and-such site from the movie. I have taken a few folks down to the old Joliet prison where one of the early shots was done (Jake coming out, backlit in the stone gate) which is about 20 minutes away. Still a big hit. Edward: > I de-lurked to talk about condiments and make reference to a bad movie. *sigh* No better time! Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 07:33:23 -0700 From: "michael wells" Subject: RE: reap Stewart: >> luciano pavarotti, 71 > Well, at least we'll get some sleep ... Sebastian: > I think most important to me is that I try to get across that I *care*. To me that's a matter of politeness. Americans often are considered impolite when they don't even appear to make an effort, but instead take it for granted that everyone speaks English. Well put, but I wonder if that's a German take on things. I know the rap is that the French are the least understanding of someone working through their tongue while on holiday...but my experience was that Germans were much less forgiving. The locals I have subjected to my French openly corrected me - and deservedly so - but seemed to genuinely appreciate the effort. I sure didn't get the cold stares and snipped replies ("oh, you meant /this/) as I did in Germany. But maybe that's only because I was in the industrial north ;) Chris: > tend to think that France has led the world in the development of both political democracy, and "culture" in general: that is, music, literature and other arts, as well as food, wine and the finer things in life Also well put. > The French they are a funny race > They fight with their feet and fuck with their face... Good sale on French rifles...dropped twice, never fired! Kathy and I leave soon for ten days eating our way across the north of France. I'd best get that sort of thing locked away for a bit. > Writer Madeleine L'Engle, 88 "A Wrinkle in Time" is perfect for 10-13 year olds. There's enough linguistic development there to understand the wordplay, and yet they're young enough to still enjoy the crazed idea of the whole thing. I loved that book. My kids are a little young yet, but that one's already on the shelf waiting for them... James: > I achieved the music ner'd pinnacle a year or so back when I was actually asked for a top twenty albums of all time by my local newspaper What? No Rush? Bah! Going to see Rush tonight with some old mates, Michael ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 10:12:40 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: tg;if ----> tl;dr 2fs wrote: > > So, home-recorded, yeah...but no longer home recording as we once knew it, Jim. It seems to be an IDMer thing, using cheapo mikes: Kieran Hebden (aka Four Tet) used the stock Creative Labs mic that came with his sound card - - . Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 11:06:56 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) On 9/8/07, michael wells wrote: > > > required for your degree, Sebastian? And I think salad should definitely > be > neutral, like Switzerland, don't you? I've seen some salads that seem > masculine - I'm thinking a giant steak fajita salad or perhaps Cobb here - > but I can't really get behind the idea of masculine mescalin. And if you > feel I worked too hard for that joke, you're probably not alone. My lawyer will be contacting you regarding my resultant unwarranted pain and suffering shortly. - ---------------- Now playing: Oxford Collapse - Please Visit Your National Parks - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 11:09:08 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: tg;if ----> tl;dr On 9/8/07, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > 2fs wrote: > > > > So, home-recorded, yeah...but no longer home recording as we once knew > it, Jim. > > It seems to be an IDMer thing, using cheapo mikes: Kieran Hebden (aka > Four Tet) used the stock Creative Labs mic that came with his sound card > - . Since no one answered Rex's question last time re "WTF 'IDM'?": < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_dance_music> - ---------------- Now playing: Camper Van Beethoven - June - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 14:25:26 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) - --On 5. September 2007 08:02:46 -0400 "Stewart C. Russell" wrote: > Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: >> >> Hm, apparently they also asked for the name Czechia to be used in >> English, but nobody followed that wish. > > Ah, this might might explain why some friends of Czechs I know have > started calling the country "Czech", instead of "the Czech Republic". Weird, because that's neither one nor the other ... [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 12:51:37 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: Trapped in the IFC (0% RH content; far too much R. Kelly content) Sweeney says: > No -- wait: I know what's harder to believe...that I spent any time > watching this and writing about it. I know this is some 20 minutes I won't > ever get back in the rapidly draining (but not rapidly enough, it seems > right now, as this continues to run) hourglass of my life...But, much like > "The Kramer" (the painting in that episode of "Seinfeld"), this is > "loathsome, offensive...yet I can't look away." i hear you. in my former life, as a working gal with cable, i used to enjoy the mtv and the vh1 occasionally. i saw what i think was the premiere of parts 1 - 5. i sat there, mouth agape, strangely compelled, sort of horrified, but, most of all, glued to the set. did part 22 end with a cliffhanger? as ever, lauren p.s. when you said parts 13 to 22, i thought you were kidding, but you said it twice, so i suspect you kid not. - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 10:53:58 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) On Sep 8, 2007, at 6:39 AM, michael wells wrote: > Tom: >> Nothing can come close to how much I hate Philly sports fans though. > > Even Max? 'Cause Max is really cool. Granted I've never seen Max at a sporting event, so maybe he's the one that can change my mind! - -tc, glad the Flyers aren't visiting the Shark tank this year. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 13:31:38 -0400 From: lep Subject: movie talk hi fegs, it's finally time for another installment of movie talk. (1) "inland empire" (on dvd): i'm really grateful that david lynch exists. as ever, lauren p.s. i was going to end there, but have a few more random related items: - - did anyone catch, on the bonus disc, the film of mr. lynch showing how he makes his quinoa(sp?) ? it kicked butt. i adore watching or reading about david lynch's day-to-day life. - - i mentioned to ty in an e-mail that i was going to watch it and he said of his brother b. that "He claims that it was one of the scariest movies he's ever seen." and b. is sort of a horror-movie aficionado. in some ways, maybe this one was creepier than lynch's earlier movies, but the way in which in which lynch is creepy remains pretty constant, so i don't know exactly what about "inland empire" would make b. say that, as i know he's watched most if not all of lynch's earlier stuff. IMO, part of what was most creepy about it is tied in to the fact that the lead is laura dern, but i think my saying anything else about that would be a bit of a spoiler, so i'll just end it there. - - if you're keeping track, yes, it's remake #2 of "lost highway." i really have to admire someone who just keeps taking longer and longer to make the same point. - - i'm now even more resentful that i didn't get to see this one in the theatre (it didn't run around here, at least that i'm aware of.) - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 11:03:16 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Trapped in the IFC (0% RH content; far too much R. Kelly content) On Sep 8, 2007, at 12:23 AM, Michael Sweeney wrote: > As I type this (early Sat., 1:55 am CDST), the usually reliable > Independent Film Channel is showing approx. 90 mins worth of R. > Kelly's insanely stoopid "Trapped in the Closet" videos (the > apparently recently released parts 13 to 22, as the channel guide > info tells me) ("parts 13 to 22"? sweet chocolate Jeebus (thanx, > Lauren) -- like anyone was clamoring for _that_?!?). And to think > I was so rough on Roger Waters for his attempts at stretching > approx. one sub-standard melody into to 40-some minutes of "The > Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking" -- by comparison, this highly > polished turd is like taking one thin pint of gruel and trying to > stretch / dilute it into a massive-throng-feeding cauldron of tepid > bathwater... > > My god... I bought the DVD for a white elephant party at work and just had to watch the whole thing beforehand. It really is jaw-droppingly engaging - I couldn't take my eyes off of it. Do people watch this and NOT laugh at it? - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 15:57:42 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: movie talk jeff 2fs says: > > - did anyone catch, on the bonus disc, the film of mr. lynch showing > > how he makes his quinoa(sp?) ? it kicked butt. i adore watching or > > reading about david lynch's day-to-day life. > > > Oh crap - bonus disk. Will apparently have to put *that* in the NFX-Q > also... yes, definitely. i found it very good for a bonus disc. it's also got a longish interview with lynch that's (you guessed it) great, as well as some footage from the set (which sometimes shows lynch at work (and sometimes in a quite candid manner, in that it shows the moments when he's either acting like an ass, a boss, or a disciplined filmmaker, depending on your take on "artists at work.")) > > - if you're keeping track, yes, it's remake #2 of "lost highway." i > > really have to admire someone who just keeps taking longer and longer > > to make the same point. > > Funny you should say that - as I was just thinking, one of the creepiest > moments in any Lynch film (and there are many such moments) is when Robert > Blake's character says to Bill Pullman's (is it still Pullman at that > point?) that he's at Pullman's house *right now*...and then demonstrates. > That's creepy for a number of reasons I can't put my finger on (as per usual > w/DL) but surely, Robert Blake himself is among them. (yes, still pullman - it's fairly early in the movie.) i can't tell you often that moment comes up in my head. i'm talking at least a few times a month since i first saw the movie. it almost reaches the level of a personal of myth in that anything that is creepy in the same kind of way almost always makes me think of that scene. i just referenced to a friend the other day, the statement, as usual, being something to the effect of "oh, that's just like when robert blake calls himself in "lost highway"..." btw, have you read wallace's (i.e. david foster) essay on "lost highway"? even if wallace annoys you, i would recommend reading it. it's in the book of essays called "a supposedly fun thing i'll never do again." maybe i'll see if i can find it online; right now i can't recall the title of the essay. wallace goes into detail about blake and that moment, and also does well in trying to get at the root of what it is about lynch's work that *is* so creepy. wallace kind of hangs around the set, in the background, making observations - which is really one the things he's best at. he descriptions of lynch at work are wonderful and (you guessed it) funny as well. as ever, lauren - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #325 ********************************