From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #317 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, September 5 2007 Volume 16 : Number 317 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: yes, sir (was: Re: fucked by David Duchovny) [Jeff Dwarf ] badfinger [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Tom, was that you? ["Stacked Crooked" ] Re: yes, sir (was: Re: chauffered by David Duchovny) ["Michael Sweeney" <] Re: Hot hot sibilant action ["Michael Sweeney" ] Re: yes, sir (was: Re: fucked by David Duchovny) ["Michael Sweeney" ] Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) ["Stewart C. ] Re: Tom, was that you? [Tom Clark ] Re: the Frau/Fraeulein (God, does that look funny but I can't find an umlaut right now) controversy [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) [Eleanore Ada] Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) ["Jason Brown] Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) [Benjamin Luk] Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) [Benjamin Luk] Re: yes, sir (was: Re: fucked by David Duchovny) [kevin ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:08:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: yes, sir (was: Re: fucked by David Duchovny) grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > * has the bizarre ability to love both joy division and new > order (i > > previously discussed this freakishness onlist) > > Bizarre. a love by you of these two. My fingers are aching to add > the obvious song title here... Not all of us would have had the restraint to not type "Love Vigilantes." > >Uh...okay: I own a white Mini Cooper with a black roof. And it has > >occurred to me that if I were to design something whisker-like > >for the front, ear-like for above the front window, and tail-like > >to extend the antenna in the rear, I would end up with a rather > >cat-like look for the car, for Halloween, of course. > > for want of a new thread, the best moidification to a car like that > I've seen was a wee Fiat Bambino that someone had added a giant > silver-painted plywood "wind-up" key to the back of. I used to see an old VW bug that they had painted grey and turned into a mouse.... "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:11:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: the Frau/Fraeulein (God, does that look funny but I can't find an umlaut right now) controversy So here is an oldster checking in. I lived in Germany from 1975-1978. My husband lived there from 1957-1978 (in other words, he was born there and then moved to the States with me in '78). During those years, I knew some "aeltere Damen" who would have been insulted if you had called them Frau. One was Fraeulein Moeller, who was the secretary at my husband's boarding school (his parents were teachers there). The other was Fraeulein Anna, who was the mistress of all things important for one of my private English students. What's more, back then, it wasn't just assumed that you used Du for everyone in your age group. At the university, you used Sie until someone told you not to. AND, I once broke down in tears because, after more than a year of being together with Thomas, I didn't know how to address his parents. All the other boyfriends/girlfriends/spouses of Thomas' siblings used Du, but I didn't feel comfortable. When I asked Thomas what I should say, even he didn't know, so all I did was mumble a lot. Finally, I told him I wouldn't go to his parents' house again until he asked them. Well, all involved decided that I should address them with Du, and to mark the event, they opened a bottle of wine and toasted the occasion. English is a fucking pain in the ass because of the bulk of its vocabulary and its wealth of idioms (trust me, I've taught ESL for almost 30 years), but some things about it are just SO MUCH EASIER!!!!!!!!!!!!! Starting with the word "the".... Jill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:11:47 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: yes, sir (was: Re: fucked by David Duchovny) On 9/4/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > I used to see an old VW bug that they had painted grey and turned > into a mouse.... Wasn't that from the John Candy vehicle (pun half intended) UNCLE BUCK? Used to be on display next to the A-Team van at Universal Studios... Around LA you can sometimes see a sedan that looks like it's completely tiled in some mosaic fashion, but if you get close enough you can see that it's actually multicolored keys from computer keyboards. It might be an ad, but, proving once again just how effective advertising is, I forget what for, if anything. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 00:17:01 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Beatles' 'Help!' Expanded For New DVD Beatles' 'Help!' Expanded For New DVD _http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=100363 4544_ (http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003634544) The Beatles September 04, 2007, 9:00 AM PT Jonathan Cohen, Seattle The Beatles' second film, 1965's "Help!," will be released in a double-DVD edition Oct. 30 via Apple Corps Ltd and EMI Music. The movie was released in DVD in 1997 and again in 2000, but has been off the market ever since due to rights issues. In "Help!," drummer Ringo Starr comes into possession of a cursed ring, which he cannot remove, prompting adventures in London, the Austrian Alps and the Bahamas. The first disc of "Help!" boasts a digitally restored version of the film plus a new 5.1 audio soundtrack, with songs like "You've Got To Hide Your Love Away," "Ticket To Ride," "The Night Before," "Another Girl" and "You're Going To Lose That Girl." Disc two offers a 30-minute documentary about the making of the movie, a missing scene, a featurette on the restoration process, interviews with cast and crew, three theatrical trailers and vintage radio advertisements. (http://web.checkm8.com/adam/em/click/316431/cat=vnu_music_bb.News_and_Reviews.News.Article;url=http://www.marketingtohispanics.com/vozlatina/index.jsp) "Help!" will also be available in a boxed set with a reproduction of director Richard Lester's original script and a 60-page book with rare photos and production notes. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:22:14 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: CaribouTube We were talking about Caribou - here's an eight or nine minute minidocumentary from BBC.co.uk. Dan Snaith looks like a math professor. Oh wait: he is! - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 00:46:41 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: badfinger Badfingerbs post-Beatles/Apple Records LPs Reissued _http://harpmagazine.com/news/detail.cfm?article=11641_ (http://harpmagazine.com/news/detail.cfm?article=11641) ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:13:23 -0700 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: Tom, was that you? from : Hello! Would you do me a favor? How do I do for to talk with Peter Buck, How I make for find him? some contact or do you know anybody has it? I tried to talk with some peoples but I got confused with so many different ideas.. I am Danielli and I need to talk with Peter, Peter Buck. It is very important for me. Okay? Please I hope count on you. Danielli ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 06:50:45 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: yes, sir (was: Re: chauffered by David Duchovny) Aaron L wrote: >I think I'm going to have to queue up "She Doesn't Exist" next. Yep. >That's what I'll do. Ahhhh -- one of my all-time faves...always reminds me of a long-ago shoulda-been love interest (while "Love Poisoning" brings to mind another one, in a more bitter, less wistful way)... Michael Sweeney PS - Larry Craig is STILL not gay (however, "ghey" is another story altogether...) _________________________________________________________________ More photos; more messages; more whatever. Windows Live Hotmail - NOW with 5GB storage. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_5G_0907 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:05:20 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: Hot hot sibilant action Gene Hopstetter Jr. said: >Robyn should have traded his Cadillac for a microphone. ...Hey, I got that semi-obscure reference! Michael "Fix the cigarette lighter" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Can you find the hidden words? Take a break and play Seekadoo! http://club.live.com/seekadoo.aspx?icid=seek_hotmailtextlink1 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:21:40 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: yes, sir (was: Re: fucked by David Duchovny) James said: >>Uh...okay: I own a white Mini Cooper with a black roof. And it has >>occurred >>to me that if I were to design something whisker-like for the front, >>ear-like for above the front window, and tail-like to extend the antenna >>in >>the rear, I would end up with a rather cat-like look for the car, for >>Halloween, of course. >for want of a new thread, the best moidification to a car like that I've >seen was a wee Fiat Bambino that someone had added a giant silver-painted >plywood "wind-up" key to the back of. Around Chicago, there's a pink new-style VW "Bug" that's been tricked out with ears on the roof, a snouty nose (and eyes) in front, and a curly tail on the back end...can't remember the plate, but it made some pig reference. Seen it here on the North Side a few times (not advertising anything, either)... Michael Sweeney Gratuitous Lou content: My first car (early '80s) was a '72 Satellite...wanted to (but never did) get a vanity plate that read "OF LOVE," just to amuse me and the, like, dozen other people who might get it... _________________________________________________________________ Can you find the hidden words? Take a break and play Seekadoo! http://club.live.com/seekadoo.aspx?icid=seek_hotmailtextlink1 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 19:41:08 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) >What would the world do, I wonder, if Americans started insisting >California be called California, regardless of its name in other >languages? Hey, that's what Ivory Co.., um, Cote d'Ivoire did! > > So how do Germans pronounce Los Angeles-- like the Spanish that it is, or > > in > > its weido American iteration? > > >Or like in '40s movies: Loss Angle-eese. They probably just say L.A., like everyone else. (Hell, it's a lot easier than saying "El pueblo de nuestra senora Maria la reina de los angeles de Porciuncula", which IIRC was the city's original name...) James (in a city whose name is Gaelic for Edinburgh, in what the Russians call Novaya Zelandia) - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 10:07:19 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) - --On 5. September 2007 19:41:08 +1200 grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: >> What would the world do, I wonder, if Americans started insisting >> California be called California, regardless of its name in other >> languages? > > Hey, that's what Ivory Co.., um, Cote d'Ivoire did! Damn, I knew there was a place that'd done that, but I couldn't remember which one. Its name in Germany is Elfenbeinkueste, which is just a literal translation. I have no idea why you wouldn't want such a translation to be used. There was another case after the split of Czechoslovakia into the Czech Republic and Slovakia. The former state was called Tschechoslowakei in German. The "traditional" name for the two separate states were Tschechei and Slowakei. Hm, reading the Wikipedia article I notice that things are a bit more complicated than that (aren't they always?). Anyway, the new government of the Czech Republic officially asked for the new country to be called Tschechien in German instead of Tschechei. Hm, apparently they also asked for the name Czechia to be used in English, but nobody followed that wish. - -- b. Sebastian Hagedorn b Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de b' http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 07:58:51 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: CaribouTube 2fs wrote: > > Dan Snaith looks like a math professor. Oh wait: he is! And he sounds *so* Canadian. Oh wait: he is! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 08:02:46 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > Hm, apparently they also asked for the name Czechia to be used in > English, but nobody followed that wish. Ah, this might might explain why some friends of Czechs I know have started calling the country "Czech", instead of "the Czech Republic". Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:01:32 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Tom, was that you? On Sep 4, 2007, at 11:13 PM, Stacked Crooked wrote: > from : > > Hello! Would you do me a favor? How do I do for to talk with Peter > Buck, > How I make for find him? some contact or do you know anybody has it? I > tried to talk with some peoples but I got confused with so many > different > ideas.. I am Danielli and I need to talk with Peter, Peter Buck. It > is very > important for me. Okay? Please I hope count on you. Danielli I find embarrassment that you see letter from paper I write. Mr. Buck run when I say Hello him and ask to try why he hate me. Is just fair he explain story side is his! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:22:17 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: the Frau/Fraeulein (God, does that look funny but I can't find an umlaut right now) controversy The list eats umlauts, so don't even bother with them. It's a technical deficiency of DeMIME, a small tool used to keep attachments and such off the list. - --On 4. September 2007 23:11:52 -0400 Jill Brand wrote: > So here is an oldster checking in. I lived in Germany from 1975-1978. > My husband lived there from 1957-1978 (in other words, he was born there > and then moved to the States with me in '78). During those years, I knew > some "aeltere Damen" who would have been insulted if you had called them > Frau. I can imagine, even though I haven't consciously had experiences like that. > One was Fraeulein Moeller, who was the secretary at my husband's > boarding school (his parents were teachers there). The other was > Fraeulein Anna, who was the mistress of all things important for one of > my private English students. Note that the first one used her last name and the second one her given name! That's even worse from an emancipatory standpoint ... > What's more, back then, it wasn't just assumed that you used Du for > everyone in your age group. It still isn't, at least once you reach your late 20s or your 30s. In fact I think that there's been some backlash of sorts, in that people tend to use "Du" less than maybe during the 80s. > At the university, you used Sie until > someone told you not to. AND, I once broke down in tears because, after > more than a year of being together with Thomas, I didn't know how to > address his parents. That's an experience everybody in Germany goes through! My parents always offer the "Du" form to partners of me and my sister, but that's not necessarily better, because it feels initially awkward to use that form with your elders if you're not already familiar with them. > All the other boyfriends/girlfriends/spouses of > Thomas' siblings used Du, but I didn't feel comfortable. See above ;-) > When I asked > Thomas what I should say, even he didn't know, so all I did was mumble a > lot. Finally, I told him I wouldn't go to his parents' house again until > he asked them. Well, all involved decided that I should address them > with Du, and to mark the event, they opened a bottle of wine and toasted > the occasion. That sounds nice, though. > English is a fucking pain in the ass because of the bulk of its > vocabulary and its wealth of idioms Of course that's exactly why I love it! > (trust me, I've taught ESL for almost > 30 years), but some things about it are just SO MUCH EASIER!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Starting with the word "the".... That's for sure. But I have to say that being able to differentiate whom you adress as "Du" or as "Sie" can come handy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:35:04 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: yes, sir (was: Re: fucked by David Duchovny) >Gratuitous Lou content: My first car (early '80s) was a '72 >Satellite...wanted to (but never did) get a vanity plate that read "OF >LOVE," just to amuse me and the, like, dozen other people who might get >it... Hey, I got that one. Parenthetically my favorite take on that tune is actually the Academy Of Music one, not recalling whether it's from RnR Animal or the companion set. The vocal on that one just gets me. np: endless random-shuffle playlist currently blasting "I'm Waiting For My Man". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:42:42 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: yes, sir (was: Re: fucked by David Duchovny) >Around LA you can sometimes see a sedan that looks like it's >completely tiled in some mosaic fashion, but if you get close enough >you can see that it's actually multicolored keys from computer >keyboards. And one of my fondest memories of L.A. is one Saturday night on the Strip seeing a bunch of kids cruising in a station wagon completely covered in pink shag carpet, right down to the hub caps. (Hey, how come they don't call those things "hub caps" any more?) Ah, those fabulous seventies... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:03:51 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) >I was pretty amused to discover that the French called my home state >"Virginie Occidentale". Sounds so very classical for such a hillbilly >place. But "Virginny Occidental" would be a great title for some kind of countrypolitan instrumental full of fiddles and maybe some Floyd Cramer piano - somewhere in the neighborhood of Neil Young's "The Emperoro Of Wyoming" but with a heap of echo... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:21:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: yes, sir (was: Re: fucked by David Duchovny) On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, kevin wrote: > >Around LA you can sometimes see a sedan that looks like it's > >completely tiled in some mosaic fashion, but if you get close enough > >you can see that it's actually multicolored keys from computer > >keyboards. > > And one of my fondest memories of L.A. is one Saturday night on the Strip seeing a bunch of kids cruising in a station wagon completely covered in pink shag carpet, right down to the hub caps. (Hey, how come they don't call those things "hub caps" any more?) Ah, those fabulous seventies... Don't they still call them that? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:21:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > There was another case after the split of Czechoslovakia into the Czech > Republic and Slovakia. The former state was called Tschechoslowakei in > German. The "traditional" name for the two separate states were Tschechei > and Slowakei. Hm, reading the Wikipedia article I notice that things are a > bit more complicated than that (aren't they always?). Anyway, the new > government of the Czech Republic officially asked for the new country to be > called Tschechien in German instead of Tschechei. Hm, apparently they also > asked for the name Czechia to be used in English, but nobody followed that > wish. How about "Bohemia" :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:30:05 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Funny comedy jokes Dresden Codak may be the bitchenest web comic around and the current iteration has a wicked funny blog looking at the technological singularity from a pre-(or maybe proto-)human perspective: http://dresdencodak.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:40:31 -0700 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) Hi all - I just got back from Slovakia last night. I'll link photos when i get them up. My brother's wife is Slovak, and we spent 2 weeks with her family in Trencin, north of Bratsilava. eleanore On Sep 5, 2007, at 10:21 AM, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > >> There was another case after the split of Czechoslovakia into the >> Czech >> Republic and Slovakia. The former state was called >> Tschechoslowakei in >> German. The "traditional" name for the two separate states were >> Tschechei >> and Slowakei. Hm, reading the Wikipedia article I notice that >> things are a >> bit more complicated than that (aren't they always?). Anyway, the new >> government of the Czech Republic officially asked for the new >> country to be >> called Tschechien in German instead of Tschechei. Hm, apparently >> they also >> asked for the name Czechia to be used in English, but nobody >> followed that >> wish. > > How about "Bohemia" :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:54:02 -0700 From: "Jason Brown" Subject: Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) > > There was another case after the split of Czechoslovakia into the Czech > > Republic and Slovakia. The former state was called Tschechoslowakei in > > German. The "traditional" name for the two separate states were Tschechei > > and Slowakei. Hm, reading the Wikipedia article I notice that things are a > > bit more complicated than that (aren't they always?). Anyway, the new > > government of the Czech Republic officially asked for the new country to be > > called Tschechien in German instead of Tschechei. Hm, apparently they also > > asked for the name Czechia to be used in English, but nobody followed that > > wish. > > How about "Bohemia" :) I don't think the Movravians would like that! Personally, i don't understand why everyone don't always uses the local placenames and its seems rather petty to use Germany and Japan when Deutschland and Nippon are perfectly good names. Changing spellings to match your language is fine. I guess one could argue that there is a historic leagacy for the alternate forms, in which case we should at least use the correct names for new placenames. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:21:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > >What would the world do, I wonder, if Americans started insisting > >California be called California, regardless of its name in other > >languages? > > Hey, that's what Ivory Co.., um, Cote d'Ivoire did! See, I don't get it. It's one thing to say "Our name is now Myanmar, not Burma." It's another thing to say "Keep calling us the same thing, but use French, not your native language." At least I think it is. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:26:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Jason Brown wrote: > > > There was another case after the split of Czechoslovakia into the Czech > > > Republic and Slovakia. The former state was called Tschechoslowakei in > > > German. The "traditional" name for the two separate states were Tschechei > > > and Slowakei. Hm, reading the Wikipedia article I notice that things are a > > > bit more complicated than that (aren't they always?). Anyway, the new > > > government of the Czech Republic officially asked for the new country to be > > > called Tschechien in German instead of Tschechei. Hm, apparently they also > > > asked for the name Czechia to be used in English, but nobody followed that > > > wish. > > > > How about "Bohemia" :) > > I don't think the Movravians would like that! > > Personally, i don't understand why everyone don't always uses the > local placenames and its seems rather petty to use Germany and Japan > when Deutschland and Nippon are perfectly good names. Changing > spellings to match your language is fine. I guess one could argue > that there is a historic leagacy for the alternate forms, in which > case we should at least use the correct names for new placenames. Well--in some cases, the local placenames can be rather hard to pronounce and spell. They'd probably morph anyway. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:08:29 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: yes, sir (was: Re: fucked by David Duchovny) >> And one of my fondest memories of L.A. is one Saturday night on the Strip seeing a bunch of kids cruising in a station wagon completely covered in pink shag carpet, right down to the hub caps. (Hey, how come they don't call those things "hub caps" any more?) Ah, those fabulous seventies... > >Don't they still call them that? I think they've mostly become "wheel covers." Same diff, except that in the olden days they were substantial, wok-y steel things you could cook stuff in on camping trips. I'm pretty sure the ones on our Mazda are plastic and I don't think they could take the heat... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:18:17 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: yes, sir (was: Re: fucked by David Duchovny) On 9/5/07, kevin wrote: > > >> And one of my fondest memories of L.A. is one Saturday night on the > Strip seeing a bunch of kids cruising in a station wagon completely covered > in pink shag carpet, right down to the hub caps. (Hey, how come they don't > call those things "hub caps" any more?) Ah, those fabulous seventies... > > > >Don't they still call them that? > > I think they've mostly become "wheel covers." Same diff, except that in > the olden days they were substantial, wok-y steel things you could cook > stuff in on camping trips. I'm pretty sure the ones on our Mazda are > plastic and I don't think they could take the heat... There's probably some wild, slangy street term for them - this is a crowd of young, incredibly hip people, so obviously someone here will know it. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:43:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, 2fs wrote: > > > Hey, that's what Ivory Co.., um, Cote d'Ivoire did! > > > > See, I don't get it. It's one thing to say "Our name is now Myanmar, > > not Burma." It's another thing to say "Keep calling us the same thing, > > but use French, not your native language." At least I think it is. > > I'm not sure what the point is. Is Cote d'Ivoire going to send over monitors The point is, can't we leave well enough alone? > to make sure no one says "Ivory Coast" instead? Names of countries (and > names generally) have always been a bit localized: "Germany" is English for > that country, whatever else it might be called in other languages: > Deutschland, Allemagne, etc. That's my point--countries like Cote d'Ivoire and Timor-Leste don't seem to get that though. > It's a bit amusing: rather like overpunctilious announcers at > classical-music radio stations who get all Russian in saying "Tchaikovsky" > to the extent it's hard to recognize which composer's being referred to. The > further names travel, the more they get "translated" into the local > language. And inevitably, they get translated first into the local phonemes > (if we don't have that ending diphthong represented in Cyrillic by the last > two letters naming that composer), we'll just pronounce it with whatever's > closest in our own language (roughly, a "long e"). Which is very natural! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:59:04 -0400 From: lep Subject: lyric question hi fegs, you know when you've been hearing the same RH lyric for years, and you know you're missing some reference or just don't get it, and it kind of bugs you every time you hear the song? except in this case it's a tori amos song, but, whatever. there's this line in "putting the damage on" that goes: "and now i'm wishing for my best impression of my best angie dickinson" ...and i always wonder what the hell she's talking about. i know for a fact that at least one of you is one of those nutty tori fans. i don't know for a fact, but imagine you have many better things to do than answer my question, but maybe i'll get lucky... as ever, lauren p.s. in truth, it happens to me with robyn probably way less often than it should. if i don't get something, i just figure it's some robyn thing, and pay it no mind. years later, i might find out that it was a reference to something does actually exists outside of his robyn-mind. go figure. p.p.s. i know that ms. dickenson played the policewoman in said series, but never saw it. and i saw "dressed to kill" but it always takes brain-effort for me to remember that she wasn't the killer. i guess it's the blonde wig thing...it's still making a fool of me. p.p.p.s. btw, apropos of recent discussions, the only reason i write things like "i know that ms. dickenson played..." is that janet maslin always wrote things like "ms. novak " and "mr. stewart " and ms. maslin is so damn cool (i think it's actually a general NYT thing.) - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #317 ********************************