From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #316 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, September 4 2007 Volume 16 : Number 316 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: fucked by David Duchovny [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: My name is "Eb": Somebody get me a cheeseburger [lep ] Re: My name is "Eb": Somebody get me a cheeseburger [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) [Benjamin Luk] Re: yes, sir (was: Re: fucked by David Duchovny) [2fs Subject: Re: fucked by David Duchovny On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, 2fs wrote: > On 9/4/07, Jason Brown wrote > > > > On 9/3/07, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > > > On Fri, 31 Aug 2007, 2fs wrote: > > > > > > > Also (the things you find out on the internet), "sir" is apparently > > Bosnian > > > > for "cheese." > > > > > > Hmm...looks like "Bosnian" is a recognized language now. Thought it was > > > still Serbo-Croatian... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_language > > > > my understanding is that, like Serbian and Croatian, Bosnian is > > basically Serbo-Croatian and the separate language status is a > > nationalist construct. Its probably arguable that they are actually > > even separate dialects of Serbo-Croatian. > > > Oh now we're going to get into the whole language/dialect thing: what makes > something a separate language vs a dialect of the same language... "A language is a dialect with an army" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 13:35:38 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: My name is "Eb": Somebody get me a cheeseburger tc says: > On Sep 4, 2007, at 1:15 AM, Stacked Crooked wrote: > > > > contingent, and are always looking for new members!> > > > > i assumed she meant portland, maine. but i agree that pittsburgh's a > > helluva interesting city. must say, however, that, in general, > > pennsylvania can kiss my dimpled ass. > > D'oh! I hadn't even considered Portland, Maine! It is beautiful up > there this time of year; August was when we'd head up there to camp > at Lake Sebago. she'd seem like less of a deserter if it were portland, maine ;) > On the whole I like PA. Amish country is beautiful, and the Delaware > gap makes for some great rafting. Although as you head west people > start saying "yin" a lot more, as in "Yins gonna stay for dinner"? > Nothing can come close to how much I hate Philly sports fans though. > 'cept maybe their accents. it was james carville (is that his name? the guy who hung around the clinton white house, always talking to into someone's mic) who gave my favourite description of my fair state: "pennsylvania is philadelphia and pittsburgh, with arkansas in the middle." or something like that. as ever, lauren - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:53:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Aaron L. wrote: > > I never learned in school that it's pretty usual to use the adjective > > form instead of the adverbial form, e.g. "real soon now" etc. Of > > course that's not "correct" in a strict sense, but it's what people > > do. > > Well, yeah some people do, but that usage in particular is one that > just grates on my ear. I would understand it, obviously, but I would > never use "real" as an adverb myself. Then again, I also spent my > college years earning a degree in English (concentration in > linguistics), so maybe I'm atypical here. But I do understand the > point you're making and I'm sure there are other examples that would > offend my ear less. Just curious where you went to college? I studied English and linguistics myself, though in separate departments. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:54:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: yes, sir (was: Re: fucked by David Duchovny) On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, lep wrote: > i've noticed that a lot of forms (e.g. online information, paperwork > from the university, maybe things like journal subscriptions) leave a > space for the "mr., miss, ms. mrs." i forget what they call it (i.e. > probable name of field). i generally leave it blank. occasionally, > i'll put "miss", if i'm in an "oh, i bet jonathan richman would want > me to" kind of mood**. From Ambrose Bierce's "The Devil's Dictionary": miss, n. The title with which we brand unmarried women to indicate that they are in the market. Miss, Missis (Mrs.) and Mister (Mr.) are the three most distinctly disagreeable words in the language, in sound and sense. Two are corruptions of Mistress, the other of Master. In the general abolition of social titles in this our country they miraculously escaped to plague us. If we must have them let us be consistent and give one to the unmarried man. I venture to suggest Mush, abbreviated to Mh. God, I love that book. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:57:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > I would understand it, obviously, but I would never > > use "real" as an adverb myself. Then again, I also spent my college > > years earning a degree in English (concentration in linguistics), so > > maybe I'm atypical here. > > I don't think that linguistics in itself explains it. There's > sociolinguistics, for example. My one class there brought me a whole new > level of understanding of linguistic stratification. The discussion of > overt and covert incentives for e.g. dropping your aitches was a real > eye (or should I say ear) opener. Well, sociolinguistics is part of linguistics, of course. I do love it--there's so much going on that people don't usually think about. > You're welcome to stay at my place when you come to Cologne! Curious--isn't it spelled Koln by Germans, or do you use Koln when writing German and Cologne in English? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:03:02 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter Jr." Subject: Hot hot sibilant action The streamed IODOT music on the Yep Roc site sounds quite good. I'm hearing more ambient detail (voice echo, the sound of the room, etc) than I ever have before, and this is from streaming audio. So I'm pretty excited about the reissues. However, that hot sibilance on his vocals is still there. I've always thought it was crappy vinyl or poor mastering that caused it. But now it seems it was either the mic or something in recording/mixing process. Listen to "Winter Love" and you'll know what I'm referring to. Yeah, yeah, I know I'm probably the only person who's annoyed by this. Robyn should have traded his Cadillac for a microphone. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:20:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: My name is "Eb": Somebody get me a cheeseburger lep wrote: > it was james carville (is that his name? the guy who hung around > the clinton white house, always talking to into someone's mic) who > gave my favourite description of my fair state: > > "pennsylvania is philadelphia and pittsburgh, with arkansas in the > middle." > > or something like that. It was Carville, and it was Alabama instead of Arkansas. "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:15:46 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) - -- Benjamin Lukoff is rumored to have mumbled on 4. September 2007 10:57:03 -0700 regarding Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst): >> You're welcome to stay at my place when you come to Cologne! > > Curious--isn't it spelled Koln by Germans, or do you use Koln when writing > German and Cologne in English? Exactly. Many cities have different names in English and other languages. Here are the largest (the list will eat the umlauts, so they're for Benjamin's benefit only): German English Italian Berlin Berlin Berlino Hamburg Hamburg Amburgo M|nchen Munich Monaco Kvln Cologne Colonia Frankfurt Frankfurt Francoforte So as you can see they all have different names in Italian! We (Germans) do the same to foreign places. The recently mentioned Pennsylvania *used* to be Pennsylvanien in German, although nowadays it's usually pronounced the English way. But California still always is Kalifornien in German. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:34:43 -0400 From: lep Subject: Re: Some 2007 goodies from the south james says: > Don't > know the Magnetic Fields one offhand. Feel free to send the list... this is the song i mentioned. it's on one of the early albums, before stephin merritt would do any of the singing: http://home.comcast.net/~ralpal/21-100000-fireflies.mp3 i think some band covered it and that my friend really liked the cover. maybe supergrass or superchunk or one of those other super bands (caution: perhaps just random neurons firing...)? i do like the song, but don't find it ?catchy? enough to be a great pop song. but, really, who else writes a love song like mr. merritt: "You won't be happy with me, But give me one more chance You won't be happy anyway" magnetic fields fun may as well continue, so here's one that i would consider more poppy, from the next phase when stephin started singing. it's either on "holiday" or "get lost" which i can kind of never tell apart: http://home.comcast.net/~ralpal/03-Deep-Sea-Diving-Suit.mp3 and this is pretty recent, and poppy, from "i": http://home.comcast.net/~ralpal/03-I-Dont-Really-Love-You-Anymore.mp3 ...and since i noticed it's still hanging around, robyn's cover of "let me roll it" if anyone is interested (which i must have gotten from the a post on feglist): http://home.comcast.net/~ralpal/Robyn-LetMeRollIt.mp3 anyway, the idea of what a pop song is has given ty and i endless hours of fun and bickering. my point, which naturally i just make over and over again ,since he won't just say i'm right, is some version of "that knob that jon brion turns up." although that doesn't account for melody. but if jon brion would want to get ahold of it, it would already have the requisite melody. but whatever it is, "heavenly pop " (i already forget) has a lot of it. as ever, lauren p.s. hopefully the links the work. i'm kind of sleepy so too lazy to check them now. regardless, i'll find out later, and leave the songs up for a week or so. or forever as it would seem in the case of that robyn song. or maybe just somewhere in between. - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:07:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) On Tue, 4 Sep 2007, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > -- Benjamin Lukoff is rumored to have mumbled on 4. > September 2007 10:57:03 -0700 regarding Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von > David Duchovny gebumst): > > >> You're welcome to stay at my place when you come to Cologne! > > > > Curious--isn't it spelled Koln by Germans, or do you use Koln when writing > > German and Cologne in English? > > Exactly. Many cities have different names in English and other languages. > Here are the largest (the list will eat the umlauts, so they're for > Benjamin's benefit only): > > German English Italian > Berlin Berlin Berlino > Hamburg Hamburg Amburgo > M|nchen Munich Monaco > Kvln Cologne Colonia > Frankfurt Frankfurt Francoforte > > So as you can see they all have different names in Italian! We (Germans) do > the same to foreign places. The recently mentioned Pennsylvania *used* to > be Pennsylvanien in German, although nowadays it's usually pronounced the > English way. But California still always is Kalifornien in German. Interesting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_European_cities_in_different_languages:_A What would the world do, I wonder, if Americans started insisting California be called California, regardless of its name in other languages? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:19:25 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: yes, sir (was: Re: fucked by David Duchovny) On 9/4/07, kevin wrote: > > >Actually it's not even that that bothered me: it was that the violence > was >pretty much actively glorified...to the extent that it felt as if the > movie >intentionally solicited on behalf of its audience the masochistic > torturer's >glee at the victim's pain, agony, > > > But isn't that an element in pretty much every movie Paul Verhoeven's ever > made? Which might be one reason I don't like his movies. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:16:46 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: yes, sir (was: Re: fucked by David Duchovny) On 9/4/07, lep wrote: > > i generally leave it blank. occasionally, > i'll put "miss", if i'm in an "oh, i bet jonathan richman would want > me to" kind of mood**. > > ** a mood i like to think i might have invented. That could come in handy, actually. Thanks... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:13:53 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) On 9/4/07, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > . But California still always is Kalifornien in German. Somebody should have told Jello Biafra. I was pretty amused to discover that the French called my home state "Virginie Occidentale". Sounds so very classical for such a hillbilly place. So how do Germans pronounce Los Angeles-- like the Spanish that it is, or in its weido American iteration? Multilingual people are awesome. Sadly for me, I'm not one. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:27:31 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: My name is "Eb": Somebody get me a cheeseburger lep wrote: > > "pennsylvania is philadelphia and pittsburgh, with arkansas in the middle." It's nothing like Arkansas in the middle! We just drove the width of PA, and we've done some crazy winter driving in the Alleghanies. Never once had I to gear down in PA to prevent the car losing control - unlike the sharp little hills on the Missouri/Arkansas border. Stewart NP: Porter Wagoner - Wagonmaster (which totally 0wns, btw) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:18:09 -0700 From: Rex Subject: TL:DR 1980: Galactica Discovers Earth (featuring those adorable GalactiKids!) So I actually followed through and got ahold of some of the 2007 albums recommended by fegs (well, basically Stewart and Eddie, with some commentary by Jeff N.), sticking mostly to the names they dropped about which I knew next to nothing. Of course, once you google these artists, you find out that there are tons of blogs out there *also* declaring these the year's best records, proving once again that your average feg is just way the hell cooler than me. So here are some quick reviews, interspersed with stuff about other recordings recently acquired but not previously examined in depth. I did almost no research into most of these records before just listening to them, so please forgive my ignorance on some of the artists that's actually my way of keeping things interesting for myself. For now. A Drop in the Gray, "Certain Sculptures". When I first moved to LA in 1989, I read something touting this band as one of the great overlooked treasures of the city's '80's music scene, with, I think, passing reference to the Paisley Underground bands (few, if any of whom, I had then heard). I then found a cassette of this album in a cutout bin, bought it and listened to it, and found it rather bland and uninspired. I recently came across it on a blog, and, having been on a Paisley tear lately, decided to give it another go. It's pretty much as I remember it, dogged by the production sound that mars even some of the best West Coast material of that time (think 'Til Tuesday, maybe): overeffected drums and guitar, cheesy and overemphasized synth, and way too many percussion overdubs the overall effect evoking seasoned studio musicians trying to sound like what they think New Wave sounds like. The vocals and lyrics seem sort of overwrought and overly earnest, and any kinship to The Rain Parade, or hell, even the Bangles is lost on me. In other words, this really isn't one of the great overlooked treasures of the city's '80's music scene. Caribou, "Andorra". Stewart and Jeff debated how much one had to be into IDM as a prerequisite for liking this. I sat on it for a number of days, assuming that it would eventually come to me, but I never did figure out what IDM stood for. But this is pretty interesting. Although it's way more overtly psychedelic, the actual sound of the way the vocals and especially the rhythm section are presented sounds to me more related to the liter Sunshine Pop bands of that age (sometimes specifically the Kit-Kats, in fact), with a generous dose of Krautrock. (I dunno if it's just because of Stereolab that the seemingly antithetical styles of Krautrock and Easy Listening became inextricably intertwined, but it certainly happened around that time and has remained unshakeable ever since). But this doesn't sound like Stereolab more like a less slavishly Pet Sounds-dedicated High Llamas. First listen, and it's got some airy vocals, so I can't quite get a handle on what the lyrics might be up to. The long drifty ambient-experimental piece is thoughtfully consigned to the end of the record, but it's also pretty nice as such things go. I can hear the Mercury Rev thing as well, and I do like the way that rhythm section sounds, so I'll keep listening to this and see what happens. Menomena, "Friend and Foe". This is a record that has very very loud drums. It reminds me in some ways of TV on the Radio, a band I admire but have never found myself compelled to listen to again and again. I think part of the barrier is that the bulk of the other instrumentation is so fragmentary little stabs of guitar, fleeting psych-ish keyboard flourishes, horns, minimalist intermittent bass and skronky little sound effects and backwards washes it doesn't sound like anything else well, occasionally it might sound a little like Peter Gabriel or Zeppelin but it also sort of doesn't add up to a sound of its own, at least yet, for me. A sort of hyperactive cleverness of arrangement seems to trump service of the songs (which actually sound like they might be pretty good) in a lot of places, but then again, this kind of thing sometimes suddenly clicks with me. Panda Bear, "Person Pitch". What's up with all the animal-named bands, and for that matter, all the fauna on album covers (see also Interpol)? Anyhow, this is maybe the psych-est thing yet. There's more reverb and delay on this album than on, like, U2's entire back catalog. It sounds kind of like dub, with all the reggae elements replaced by something more along the lines of British Invasion bands or the Beach Boys the Hollies produced by King Tubby? Sort of reminiscent of Spacemen 3 in a way. There's a definite appeal to this sound. While listening I'm conscious of the probability that if you put any song from this record on a mix disc next to, oh, anything at all, it would sound impossibly wispy and ghost-like, barely there, but I suspect that's part of the point. It feels like there might be a parallel world where, if any number of musical movements had held sway for longer and reached farther in influence than they did, then most records would sound like this. That would be a cool place to visit. Von Sudenfed, "Tromatic Reflexxions". Mark E. Smith and Mouse on Mars, the latter of whom I recall being around when electronica was the Next Big Thing and I in fact listened to a lot of it, but I don't recall much of what they were all about in particular. The idea here is nothing new, since MES has been mucking about with this kind of thing in and out of The Fall (D.O.S.E., etc.) for ages, and The Fall itself could be anything or anyone at any given time, now more than ever. Still, this is a nice break from the recent Fall records which've tended toward rock & roll garage-bash of varying degrees of distinction. I wouldn't be able to say what type of techno is on display here, not having kept up with such thing, but it's a nice variety, and you have to appreciate how the MoM guys seem to have actually sculpted the tracks around MES's rants one feels that he does a little less responding to his musical settings these days than he used to, and these tracks seem to meet him halfway. You also have to assume that they were worked on and edited after he left the room, something you can never be sure about on Fall records. Oddly, two of the most engaging and least Fall-like tracks are guitar-based. As for MES's own batting average on the rant-hooks, it's no higher than on the last Fall album, where he pulled off a couple of classics, and nothing quite touches fellow damaged Mancunian propped up in front of the mic to rant over beats Shaun Ryder on the Happy Mondays record, whose "Slow down and take the joy off" merits some kind of award for meaningful meaninglessness. Cloud Cult, "The Meaning of 8". I'm becoming a little disoriented from hearing too much music about which I know just about nothing, so it's a little hard to tell what I'm listening to right now. This sounds like a band picking up about where Flaming Lips recently left. I can't decide whether or not I'm actually hearing a more happy hippy vibe in place of the Lips' absurdist melancholy, or I'm just imagining it because of the band's name and what I assume to be two vocalists who together sound a bit like an overdubbed Perry Farrell singing harmonies with himself. They seem to have that anthem thing down pat, though. That seems to be a trend in a lot of music these days, anticipated by the Lips but present in many strains of indie rockbig anthems that don't come across as insipid because they're not weighed down with arena-sized clichis, musically or lyrically. With these guys, it doesn't hit me nearly as viscerally as it does with Arcade Fire or The New Pornographers (and yeah, I think there may be a little too much neo-stoner philosophy here for my tastes), but it's certainly inventive and nicely devoid of bloat. Paula Frazer, "Indoor Universe". Tarnation having been one of better country-noir bands to have released records on 4AD, and Frazer having duetted one of the better honky-tonk ish tunes to appear on a Cornershop album, I've always been a little curious about her solo album. It's good. Not significantly different from a Tarnation record in anything other than, presumably, personnel maybe a little less vibrato-twangy spook guitar and a few more horns. Tarnation probably doesn't get enough credit for being the obvious missing link between the actual Twin Peaks soundtracks that everybody listened to when the show was on, and the Neko Case records that started appearing a decade later. The Rain Parade, "Crashing Dream". Ah, a nice wall of chiming guitars can sound so comforting after a day spent listening to intricate or odd chamber-pop arrangements. This must be a later record than the one I've been playing a lot lately, "Emergency Third Rail Power Trip", which is great this one is a lot more polished-sounding, but not necessarily in a bad way (A Drop in the Gray it ain't). The vocal are a lot stronger, clearer and more confident. There's a near-dream-pop swirl (and a little more twang) in place of the straight-up garage energy, but the melodies, prominent melodic bass, and those Revolver-y lead guitars are still kicking. I'm still picking and choosing, but these guys may be my favorites of the proper Paisley bands (at least the ones I'm just now hearing, which is most of them I'll be surprised if I come across a record as completely great as "Days of Wine and Roses", but browsing through a treasure trove of nearly-lost 10-song guitar pop albums sure is cool). This actually strikes me as a damned solid record right now. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 12:49:11 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: fucked by David Duchovny >Other than if we could wipe religion and nationalism out of people's heads, >we'd - well hell we'd find some other dumbass thing to slaughter each other >over. > >Yellow light! No - amber light! So Mr. Gulliver, do you eat boiled eggs pointy end up or round end up? And does your sneetch have a star on its belly? James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:39:21 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: yes, sir (was: Re: fucked by David Duchovny) > * has the bizarre ability to love both joy division and new order (i > previously discussed this freakishness onlist) Bizarre. a love by you of these two. My fingers are aching to add the obvious song title here... >Uh...okay: I own a white Mini Cooper with a black roof. And it has occurred >to me that if I were to design something whisker-like for the front, >ear-like for above the front window, and tail-like to extend the antenna in >the rear, I would end up with a rather cat-like look for the car, for >Halloween, of course. for want of a new thread, the best moidification to a car like that I've seen was a wee Fiat Bambino that someone had added a giant silver-painted plywood "wind-up" key to the back of. > > ... to think for a moment about what the Ultimate Robyn > > Fan's Thothmobile would look like. A custom Trolleybus? > >It would definitely be dark green.... ...and with number 73 on it. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:09:19 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter, Jr." Subject: I got an email from Robyn about the box set... ...by way of Yep Roc. I had posed a bunch of questions about the box set to Yep Roc, and they forwarded the questions to Robyn, who answered them for me. Here are my questions and Robyn's answers: 1. BSDR and IODOT were both remastered for the 1990 Rhino reissues, so that would mean Yep Roc is doing re-remasters. Who is doing these re-remasters? Was Robyn involved (many of us are curious if Robyn is updating the songs/mixes or not). The re-masters are by Charlie Francis and Donal Whelan at Hafod Mastering. Robyn checked the masters but was not breathing over the desk while they were being done. 2. Are you reusing the remasters of Eye from the 1990 Rhino reissue, or the original TwinTone mix? The mix is the same from 1990, be it Twintone, Rhino or YepRoc. Every effort is made to enhance listenability. 3. What happened to the saxophone mix of "The Man Who Invented Himself" and "Messages of Dark"? The saxophones disappeared and could not be found anywhere. It's the original mix from 1980, pre-saxophones. "Messages Of Dark" disappeared too. I'm assuming that anyone enquiring about a song already has a copy. If not, I'm sure you can get it off the net. Thank you, Gene and Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:21:42 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: jawohl, mein Herr (war: Re: von David Duchovny gebumst) On 9/4/07, Rex wrote: > > > > So how do Germans pronounce Los Angeles-- like the Spanish that it is, or > in > its weido American iteration? Or like in '40s movies: Loss Angle-eese. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #316 ********************************