From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #303 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, August 25 2007 Volume 16 : Number 303 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: tl;dr (album reviews from here in my car, where I feel safest of all) [Rex ] Re: 1-800-FEG-HELP ext. BUFFY ["Jason Brown" ] Re: In which I gloat. (0% RH) [FSThomas ] Re: tl;dr (album reviews from here in my car, where I feel safest of all) ["Stewart C. Russell" ] less Buffy, more Battlestar ["natalie jacobs" ] Re: the "in your bunk" thread ["David Stovall" ] Re: In which I gloat. (0% RH) [2fs ] Re: tl;dr (album reviews from here in my car, where I feel safest of all) [2fs ] Re: tl;dr (album reviews from here in my car, where I feel safest of all) [Rex ] Re: 1-800-FEG-HELP ext. BUFFY [2fs ] reap [Dolph Chaney ] Re: In which I gloat. (0% RH) [FSThomas ] Re: 1-800-FEG-HELP ext. BUFFY [Christopher Gross ] Re: 1-800-FEG-HELP ext. BUFFY [2fs ] the hero of canton reborn! [gaseous clay ] Re: 1-800-FEG-HELP ext. BUFFY ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: 1-800-FEG-HELP ext. BUFFY ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: 1-800-FEG-HELP ext. BUFFY ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: the hero of canton reborn! [Carrie Galbraith ] Re: tl;dr (album reviews from here in my car, where I feel safest of all) [Steve Schiavo ] Re: Ironical Ludditism [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: Ironical Ludditism ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Ironical Ludditism [Sebastian Hagedorn ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:40:56 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: tl;dr (album reviews from here in my car, where I feel safest of all) On 8/23/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: ncur on the interpol / editors comparisons.) > > btw, new interpol is still in rotation on the mp3 player in the honda, > and it occurred to me to wonder if the "three stowaways" in the first > song are the singer, his girl, and the, uh, "something new" in the > second song. Oh noes-- if it turns out to be a concept album, I think I may have to cut and run on this one. Shiny Happy Editors, here I come! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 02:52:48 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: 1-800-FEG-HELP ext. BUFFY hi fegs (buffy subdivision of geek division) i already ignored your advice to alternate between angel and buffy episodes. then i ignored your advice to alternate between "angel" and "buffy" seasons. but don't think it's because i don't love you and trust you. i'm just a dope sometimes. so here's where i am... "angel" - season 2, episode 1 "buffy" - season 7, episode 7 i think my reluctance with "angel" is in part just that i'm one of habit and so just kept wanting to continue with "buffy." also, "angel" hasn't had much of an "arc" (that's what they call it, i think?) and i tend to go for the ongoing plotlines (similar to my preference for novels over short stories, i imagine.) but i also realize that this hasn't been the best strategy (and yes, fuck it, spike started taking of his shirt in "buffy" and angel's wearing like sweaters and long sleeves in his show.) with "buffy" about to wind down to a close, i'm asking for advice about whether and how much i'll be screwing myself if i don't start with the "angel" episodes. oh, if it matters, there's a fair chance i'll listen to you this time as i can't imagine angel's not going to show up at some point in season 7 of "buffy" in some important episode(s) or plot points. as ever, lauren - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 00:05:55 -0700 From: "Jason Brown" Subject: Re: 1-800-FEG-HELP ext. BUFFY Lauren > with "buffy" about to wind down to a close, i'm asking for advice > about whether and how much i'll be screwing myself if i don't start > with the "angel" episodes. oh, if it matters, there's a fair chance > i'll listen to you this time as i can't imagine angel's not going to > show up at some point in season 7 of "buffy" in some important > episode(s) or plot points. there is some crossover with Angel 4 and Buffy 7 but nothing major. The story lines intersect but i dont think you are missing anything. The shows being on different networks really decreased the viablility of real crossovers. If you want to just blaze through the end of Buffy 7 i think you'll be fine. You'll pick up a few missing factoids when you catch up to angel 4. Angel 2 has more of an arc than the first season but its not until Season's 3 and 4 where they get really serial. And Angel 5 is possible the best season of a Whedon show with the exception of Firefly. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:40:46 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: In which I gloat. (0% RH) Michael Sweeney wrote: > Christopher Gross said: > >> Last night I finished reading the Harry Potter series. I quite liked it. >> But what I really want to talk about now is this: I got through the last >> four books without *any* spoilers whatsoever! None! That's right, world >> - -- you've conspired to spoil plot twists for me in everything from The >> Crying Game to Alien 3 to "Seeing Red," but this time you failed! You >> failed! At last, I win! I WIN! Bwahahahahaha!!! Hee. > > ...I never read them, but asked people (after the final one came out but > before they had finished it) if they were as shocked as everyone else > seemed to be at the scene where Hermione experiments with that racy and > new use for broomsticks on poor ol' Ron... I finished the last one yesterday after having read them one after the other over the past two weeks or so. The only spoiler I stumbled on was quite unintentional and ticked me off just a touch. I was looking at t-shirts on Threadless a few days ago and came across this one: http://www.threadless.com/product/844/Spoilt#zoom I was only about 1/3 of the way through The Half Blood Prince when I saw it and it ticked me right off. If anything, though, it kicked me in the butt to finish them all that much faster. - -ferris. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:34:53 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: tl;dr (album reviews from here in my car, where I feel safest of all) Steve Schiavo wrote: > > Eh, their previous album was too long by half, and I haven't been able > to force myself to buy the new one. whuh? Welcome's great. T&W, if anything, is better. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:26:03 +0100 From: craigie* Subject: Fwd: 1-800-FEG-HELP ext. BUFFY On 24/08/07, Jason Brown wrote: > > And Angel 5 is possible > the best season of a Whedon show with the exception of Firefly. > And on that note I must concur. (Plus Lauren will *really* love Angel 5 'cos it has lots of great Spike lines in it. And puppets. c* - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:40:01 -0500 From: "natalie jacobs" Subject: less Buffy, more Battlestar > btw, what's with all the weird "i made this!" starbuck/leoben videos, e.g > .: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1bUF0gcI8s&mode=related&search= > (that's a rhetorical questions, but feel free to go with it anyway...) It's almost impossible to find actual BSG clips on YouTube - the BSG content is 99% "fanvids." Not just Starbuck/Leoben, but Adama/Roslin, Starbuck/Lee, etc., usually badly-edited montages set to extremely crappy music. I'm not sure what the appeal is supposed to be, but I guess someone must like them. However, I have found a couple of funny in-house gag reels, including this one - http://youtube.com/watch?v=kdmo_KCsutI I like the bits where Adama tells Baltar to "eat shit and die," and Gaeta compliments a guard on his "lovely eyes." (I also confess that I laughed uproariously at the fart jokes, because I'm actually 10 years old.) i saw some people online (maybe even on TWOP) talking about the > actor's hotness, but i failed to notice since starbuck was looking so > good in the white guy shirt and then in the white paint... Dude, Callum Keith Rennie is way, way hot. And vaguely creepy, which is a combination I find strangely appealing. According to his IMDB page, he's been in about 90 different movies and TV shows, so there's plenty of Callum to go around. n. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 08:52:42 -0400 From: "David Stovall" Subject: Re: the "in your bunk" thread > From: "Lauren Elizabeth" > Subject: the "in your bunk" thread > > well, it looks like everyone's in their bunk this afternoon. so in > honor, i'll start a "favourite sex scene" thread. no porn, since we > all (or most of us) believe we're above it anyway. There was this lovely scene of courtship in a nature show about wombats once. The male wombat chased the female wombat around in circles, and around and around and around,... This went on for just exactly long enough to be comedy. The chase wasn't hectic or passionate or even particularly fast - somewhere between methodical and leadenly plodding, with a side of grimly determined. When he eventually closed in, the male wombat bit the female once on her ass, she fell over as if scripted, and they presumably consummated the deal (though that wasn't shown). The whole thing was as matter-of-fact as mowing the grass around Stonehenge - nothing you usually think about, totally devoid of any exoticness, but absolutely necessary. > well, that was until yesterday when i got Spike Fever. btw, he seems > to have an uncanny ability to have sex not only with his pants on but > without even bothering to unzip. maybe it's a vampire thing. Elvis has just left the building, Those are his footprints right there. Elvis has just left the building, To climb up that heavenly stair He gave away Cadillacs once in a while, Had sex in his underpants - yes he had style,... d9 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 08:15:05 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: In which I gloat. (0% RH) On 8/24/07, FSThomas wrote: > > I finished the last one yesterday after having read them one after the > other over the past two weeks or so. The only spoiler I stumbled on was > quite unintentional and ticked me off just a touch. I was looking at > t-shirts on Threadless a few days ago and came across this one: > > http://www.threadless.com/product/844/Spoilt#zoom > > I was only about 1/3 of the way through The Half Blood Prince when I saw > it and it ticked me right off. Nice shirt, though. I figure a one-year time lag is acceptable for spoilers...I mean, you can't really expect the whole world to keep mum about Rosebud, say. And as you know, the shirt doesn't tell the whole tale. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 08:18:05 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: tl;dr (album reviews from here in my car, where I feel safest of all) On 8/23/07, Rex wrote: > > On 8/23/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > ncur on the interpol / editors comparisons.) > > > > btw, new interpol is still in rotation on the mp3 player in the honda, > > and it occurred to me to wonder if the "three stowaways" in the first > > song are the singer, his girl, and the, uh, "something new" in the > > second song. > > Oh noes-- if it turns out to be a concept album, I think I may have to > cut and run on this one. Shiny Happy Editors, here I come! I should have thought that was obvious. It's all about the three critters on the cover (they're the "threesome" in question) and their adventures with a magical time-traveling amulet given to them by a mystical mute dwarf with the rare ability to predict the weather in Istanbul using only a shoestring, a 56k modem, and a telesecope. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 08:21:01 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: 1-800-FEG-HELP ext. BUFFY On 8/24/07, Jason Brown wrote: > > Lauren > > with "buffy" about to wind down to a close, i'm asking for advice > > about whether and how much i'll be screwing myself if i don't start > > with the "angel" episodes. oh, if it matters, there's a fair chance > > i'll listen to you this time as i can't imagine angel's not going to > > show up at some point in season 7 of "buffy" in some important > > episode(s) or plot points. > > there is some crossover with Angel 4 and Buffy 7 but nothing major. > The story lines intersect but i dont think you are missing anything. > The shows being on different networks really decreased the viablility > of real crossovers. If you want to just blaze through the end of > Buffy 7 i think you'll be fine. You'll pick up a few missing factoids > when you catch up to angel 4. > > Angel 2 has more of an arc than the first season but its not until > Season's 3 and 4 where they get really serial. And Angel 5 is possible > the best season of a Whedon show with the exception of Firefly. Concurred. Plus there's more shirtless Spike to come in S7 (and, I think, his most compelling character moments as well). Rose and I just finished that season in a white-hot tizzie, watching the five final episodes in a single session. Fun ride that! - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 06:21:27 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: tl;dr (album reviews from here in my car, where I feel safest of all) On 8/24/07, 2fs wrote: > > Oh noes-- if it turns out to be a concept album, I think I may have to > > cut and run on this one. Shiny Happy Editors, here I come! > > I should have thought that was obvious. It's all about the three critters on > the cover (they're the "threesome" in question) and their adventures with a > magical time-traveling amulet given to them by a mystical mute dwarf with > the rare ability to predict the weather in Istanbul using only a shoestring, > a 56k modem, and a telesecope. Wait, that sounds good. Oh, the whiplash! Are there wombats involved, or was that in some other thread? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 09:27:09 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: the "in your bunk" thread Subject: the "in your bunk" thread 2fs says: >> To wit: "I'll be in my bunk." Lauren: >well, it looks like everyone's in their bunk this afternoon. so in honor, i'll start a "favourite sex scene" thread. no porn, since we all (or most of us) believe we're above it anyway. Juliette Binoche and Daniel-Day Lewis in "The Unbearable Lightness of Being". Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 08:57:15 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter Jr." Subject: Re: ironical Leiaism > From: Tom Clark > Subject: Re: Ironical Ludditism > > I read all your other posts, Lauren. And now I will be skimming the > Buffy/BSG posts as well. Perhaps you could throw in some Sackhoff/ > Hannigan slash fiction to make it worthwhile? Can't help you with the Sackhoff/Hannigan slash fiction, but these might come in handy if you need to Sackhoff in the bunk: Olivia Munn as Slave Leia: http://tinyurl.com/2vns86 Olivia Munn as BSG character: http://tinyurl.com/2d4mrz Olivia Munn as an Apple sales rep: http://tinyurl.com/24ks3t POTENTIAL NSFW WARNING! POTENTIAL NSFW WARNING! POTENTIAL NSFW WARNING! Phew. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 09:00:03 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: 1-800-FEG-HELP ext. BUFFY On 8/24/07, Sumiko Keay wrote: > > The only bit where you've screwed yourself is seminal cross-overs in > season 1 Angel/season4 Buffy (faith stuff) and season 2 Angel/Season 5 > Buffy (vampire backstory) Yeah, but that's not that big a deal: you can go back and re-watch the ones you missed. Oh wait: I think Lauren said she'd already watched past all those points. Never mind. I should just delete this post. Oops. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 09:02:21 -0500 From: Dolph Chaney Subject: reap Grace Paley, 84. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:37:02 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: In which I gloat. (0% RH) 2fs wrote: > I figure a one-year time lag is acceptable for spoilers...I mean, you can't > really expect the whole world to keep mum about Rosebud, say. > > And as you know, the shirt doesn't tell the whole tale. True, that! I can't tell the last time I burned through books at that rate, though. The wife has been thinking I was a bit nuts lately. - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:53:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: 1-800-FEG-HELP ext. BUFFY Others have already responded, but I'll reiterate: Watching Buffy and Angel in correct alternating order adds to the experience, but it's not *essential*. You've already passed the most important Buffy-Angel crossovers, so you might as well just continue to the end of Buffy and then head back to Angel. > so here's where i am... > "angel" - season 2, episode 1 > "buffy" - season 7, episode 7 Bonus advice: Don't let Angel s2e1 put you off! It's not the greatest of episodes, but the next one is quite good, the middle of the season is excellent, and the show really hits its stride in S3. In fact, I'll dissent from the general S5 love and pick S3 as my favorite. Not that I don't like S5! It's good with a number of excellent parts. But IMHO S3 is better overall. Of course this is hard to discuss without getting into spoilery specifics.... > i think my reluctance with "angel" is in part just that i'm one of > habit and so just kept wanting to continue with "buffy." also, "angel" > hasn't had much of an "arc" (that's what they call it, i think?) and i > tend to go for the ongoing plotlines (similar to my preference for > novels over short stories, i imagine.) Don't worry, that's just a passing phase of Angel's. The original concept for the series was to be mostly episodic, in contrast to Buffy. But Mutant Enemy soon realized that that wasn't where their talents (or maybe their addictions) lie, and after S1 Angel quickly becomes more arc-oriented -- sometimes even more so than Buffy. Personally, I could have lived without the story arc where most of the characters disappear and the show is reduced to a 10-episode-long soliloquy by a nude Spike; but this is a matter of personal taste, I guess. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 09:58:01 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: 1-800-FEG-HELP ext. BUFFY On 8/24/07, Christopher Gross wrote: > > O > > Personally, I could have lived without the story arc where most of the > characters disappear and the show is reduced to a 10-episode-long > soliloquy by a nude Spike; but this is a matter of personal taste, I > guess. Is that the one where he was oiled up and working out, or the other one? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:02:07 -0400 From: gaseous clay Subject: the hero of canton reborn! http://www.unshelved.com/archive.aspx?strip=20070820 and read on... +w ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:12:14 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: 1-800-FEG-HELP ext. BUFFY Chris says: > Personally, I could have lived without the story arc where most of the > characters disappear and the show is reduced to a 10-episode-long > soliloquy by a nude Spike; but this is a matter of personal taste, I > guess. frack you. back to the bunk. as ever, lauren p.s. sorry, tc, but the females on buffy just don't cut it for me (although our buffy has nearly perfect taste in clothes and they show off her figure very well.) - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:13:28 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: 1-800-FEG-HELP ext. BUFFY 2fs says: > Is that the one where he was oiled up and working out, or the other one? oh frack you too. after i get back from chris' post, i'll be in my bunk. as ever, lauren - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:07:34 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: 1-800-FEG-HELP ext. BUFFY 2fs says: > Rose and I just finished > that season in a white-hot tizzie, watching the five final episodes in a > single session. Fun ride that! Happy birthday to Rose, indeed. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:19:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: the hero of canton reborn! - -----Original Message----- >From: gaseous clay >Subject: the hero of canton reborn! > >http://www.unshelved.com/archive.aspx?strip=20070820 > >and read on... > >+w This is hi-larious! I JUST finished knitting a Jayne hat for my nephew for his birthday in September! I can't wait to see him wearing the damn thing and singing the Hero of Canton song. - - c, grinning all day now ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:00:32 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: tl;dr (album reviews from here in my car, where I feel safest of all) On Aug 24, 2007, at 6:34 AM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Steve Schiavo wrote: >> >> Eh, their previous album was too long by half, and I haven't been >> able >> to force myself to buy the new one. > > whuh? Welcome's great. T&W, if anything, is better. I must respectfully disagree. Can't stand all the loser shit, and any song about a football player is beyond the pale. I don't care about their motivation, mostly I just want to kick them and yell "shut the fuck up!" - - Mr. Mild _______________ Interconnectedness among living beings can be accounted for by nonlocal quantum entanglement. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 17:37:27 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: for the bunk-bound - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 12:28:12 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: Ironical Ludditism Lauren wrote: > indicative of my own predilections. i don't think i was able ** to >articulate ** this > until recently, but my ideal place to live would be a somewhat > out-of-the-way college town (ithaca comes to mind as the sort of FWIW, this is a college town (17000 student university, city's population 120000), and I doubt you'd ever find one more "out of the way"... James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 23:21:46 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Ironical Ludditism james says: > FWIW, this is a college town (17000 student university, city's > population 120000), and I doubt you'd ever find one more "out of the > way"... and how do you like it? do you live there because you want to or because you're already there? (which reminds me of a one of favourite quotes that used to be in my "finger.plan" file at school (i imagine only old-time geeks will know what that is** - oh, the old DEC-10 days...): interviewer to jasper johns: "do use those letters because you like them or because they come that way?" jasper johns: "but that's what i like about them - that they come that way." ) as ever, lauren p.s. for the others (for completeness as god knows why they would look): http://www.djmnet.org/lore/finger-origin.txt oh cool, from http://www.rajivshah.com/Case_Studies/Finger/Finger.htm. how cute - it discusses the CMU "finger controversy" which i (admit proudly) recall. it was funny even back then. some upper crusts thought the command "finger" was like sexual or dirty (for instance, to find the status of a user with id plm, the command was "finger plm") and wanted it renamed: << About the time the Carnegie-Mellon University computer-center staff was ordered by the CMU administration to change the name of the "Finger" command (despite it being an ARPAnet standard). They changed "Finger" to "where" and also took it upon themselves to change Paul's name to "Paul Hilwhere" (initially intending it to be temporary). Paul actually approved of the change (as a kind of gentle protest), and it remained that way for some time.[17] At some point, someone in Warner Hall, Warner Hall was the administration building, the upper floors were people like the president, vice-president, provost, one of them people higher up thought Finger implied some sort of grotesque image and thought Finger should be renamed. I don't know how there minds worked, but they thought it had obscene connotations so they insisted that it should be renamed, and the computer services people did rename it, I am not sure whether they forced us to rename our version, because they never used our machines. (Lamb 1999) "the Tops-20 systems deployed for undergraduate use at the university had their ``finger'' commands renamed to ``where'' because someone in the administration thought that the ``finger'' command verb might be interpreted in a rude manner." (Everhart 1999) >> (since tc is probably the only one that may have possibly made it through that "finger" bit, i may as well be a sweetheart and mention starbuck's midriff is killer. and actually, even though willow's not my type, she has a terrific midriff as well. mostly because it's such a lovely shade of pale.) at any rate, (very slight) apologies for my school spirit - i was just in pittsburgh at a funeral last weekend and actually got to walk around campus with my dad a bit (_not_ a cmu (i.e. geek) guy) a bit while my mom went to some glass exhibit at phipps' conservatory right by the school (chiluly is the glass artist - his work kind of bugs the crap out of me - it seems to scream, loudly and repeatedly, "how does such an infinitely huge ego possibly fit inside this finite-sized head?") it's only the second time i've been on campus proper since i graduated and even though it was all of 45-minute romp, it made me happy. while there, it also occurred to me that what they is true - undergraduate school comprises the best years of one life, but they left out the part that it's not because school is so great or not a sort of horror in its own right - just that the rest of life is so sort of...crappy. other links for completeness... exhibit: http://www.phipps.conservatory.org/chihuly/index.html "artist": http://www.chihuly.com/ btw, pittsburgh rules. it is one kick-ass city, even without factoring in that my father grew up there or that i went to school there. i love the stories my father and his family tell or have told about pittsburgh. for instance, my father says when he was growing up there, the businessmen would often take an extra shirt to work because if they went out for lunch, their shirt would be dark with soot, and so they would have a clean one to change into to. (i'm not saying that's a _nice_ story, it's just an interesting one...) - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 10:34:14 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Ironical Ludditism - -- Lauren Elizabeth is rumored to have mumbled on 24. August 2007 23:21:46 -0400 regarding Re: Ironical Ludditism: > (since tc is probably the only one that may have possibly made it > through that "finger" bit, No way, I've used "finger" as well! Though never on TOPS-20 or VMS, but rather on Sun OS, Solaris, AIX ... hm, my finger.plan still exists! I just checked it (for the first time in years) and it reads: Das Beste draus machen. (Make the best of it) > i may as well be a sweetheart and mention > starbuck's midriff is killer. and actually, even though willow's not > my type, she has a terrific midriff as well. mostly because it's such > a lovely shade of pale.) Yup. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #303 ********************************