From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #300 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, August 22 2007 Volume 16 : Number 300 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Reap [kevin ] Re: the thread of hotness (Re: BSG hottness) ["Gene Hopstetter Jr." ] Re: Zappa Plays Zappa ["Gene Hopstetter Jr." ] Re: the thread of hotness (Re: BSG hottness) ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Zappa Plays Zappa [Tom Clark ] Re: the thread of hotness (Re: BSG hottness) [Tom Clark ] Re: Ironical Ludditism ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Ironical Ludditism [Tom Clark ] Re: I was walking.. [craigie* ] RE: I was walking.. ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Ironical Ludditism [2fs ] Re: Ironical Ludditism ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 11:35:14 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: Reap Can't wait to see what Steven Colbert makes of this... and he obviously undressed voluntarily - what was that about? Fascinating. - -----Original Message----- >From: Jeff Dwarf >Sent: Aug 20, 2007 5:18 PM >To: And Rex Hamilton as Abraham Lincoln >Subject: Reap > >Some Git > >http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/08/20/bear.death.reut/index.html > > >"Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters > >. > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ >Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. >http://farechase.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:34:59 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter Jr." Subject: Re: the thread of hotness (Re: BSG hottness) On Aug 21, 2007, at 11:17 AM, fegmaniax-digest wrote: > From: "Lauren Elizabeth" > > are you pulling my leg? or maybe it really eclipsed all in my world. > what tight black dress? This black dress, in the Season 2 episode "Sacrifice:" (dammit, where is that colon supposed to go?) http://galacticabbs.com/index.php?automodule=gallery&req=si&img=29599 http://galacticabbs.com/index.php?automodule=gallery&req=si&img=29111 > and, okay, this is going to sound a bit gay, but starbuck has a > gorgeous mouth. I think we can all agree that Katee Sackhoff is a lovely woman. Most of the ladies seem to prefer Blanders to Helo, Apollo, or Baltar. Baltar's definitely the best dressed. > the sharons are very attractive, but i don't see the "hotness" factor. But they're not clever, or courageous, so they don't do much for me. They suffer the same confusion the Sevens do. Now D'anna Biers? Pathologically focussed, and pathologically hot. Even with the Fawcett-Major feathers. > kind of like when she [Starbuck] wore the teal dress (_that_ dress > i remember.) Yes, that dress I remember, too. But Starbuck is hot whether she's pulling guts out of a Cylon Raider or chomping on a cigar. Yeah, I've got the DVDs. Yeah, I've watched each episode at least three times. Yeah, I'll buy Razor and Season 3 the day it comes out. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:33:17 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter Jr." Subject: Re: the thread of hotness (Re: BSG hottness) > From: "Sumiko Keay" > > Did she wear a black dress in "Colonial Day" when they were on that > recreation ship? Nope, that's the teal dress: http://galacticabbs.com/index.php?automodule=gallery&req=si&img=9171 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:04:42 -0500 From: "Sumiko Keay" Subject: Re: the thread of hotness (Re: BSG hottness) Don't forget the Chief! Or Leoban. . . sumi On 8/21/07, Gene Hopstetter Jr. wrote: > On Aug 21, 2007, at 11:17 AM, fegmaniax-digest wrote: > > > From: "Lauren Elizabeth" > > > > are you pulling my leg? or maybe it really eclipsed all in my world. > > what tight black dress? > > This black dress, in the Season 2 episode "Sacrifice:" (dammit, where > is that colon supposed to go?) > > http://galacticabbs.com/index.php?automodule=gallery&req=si&img=29599 > > http://galacticabbs.com/index.php?automodule=gallery&req=si&img=29111 > > > and, okay, this is going to sound a bit gay, but starbuck has a > > gorgeous mouth. > > I think we can all agree that Katee Sackhoff is a lovely woman. > > Most of the ladies seem to prefer Blanders to Helo, Apollo, or > Baltar. Baltar's definitely the best dressed. > > > the sharons are very attractive, but i don't see the "hotness" factor. > > But they're not clever, or courageous, so they don't do much for me. > They suffer the same confusion the Sevens do. > > Now D'anna Biers? Pathologically focussed, and pathologically hot. > Even with the Fawcett-Major feathers. > > > kind of like when she [Starbuck] wore the teal dress (_that_ dress > > i remember.) > > Yes, that dress I remember, too. But Starbuck is hot whether she's > pulling guts out of a Cylon Raider or chomping on a cigar. > > Yeah, I've got the DVDs. Yeah, I've watched each episode at least > three times. Yeah, I'll buy Razor and Season 3 the day it comes out. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:08:15 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: I was walking.. Mike Swedene ambled and rambled: >towards 6th Ave (on 23rd street) heading in to work this morning and >spotted a Soft Boys Crab t-shirt on a passer-by. The day can't be all >that bad? can it? Coinidentally enough, just the other day, all the way from thee official Museum of Robyn Hitchcock, I received my green, 'Trolleybus" RH & the V3 t-shirt. Not sure why exactly, but even though I've been a Robyn fan for 20+ years and a regular (gotta be 20+ shows by now) RH / Egyptians / SBs / V3 concertgoer since the early '90s, this is the first RH-related t-shirt I've ever purchased. Had my eye on those cones a few years back, but was momentarily short on funds (think I bought beer with the cash I had on me instead), so...there you have it.... Michael "...And this has been yet another bit of RH-related personal minutiae (say, I really oughta get a blog going for that sort of crap) (...ah -- or maybe not)" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more.then map the best route! http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&ss=yp.bars~yp.pizza~yp.movie%20theater&cp=42.358996~-71.056691&style=r&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=950607&encType=1&FORM=MGAC01 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:24:52 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter Jr." Subject: Re: Zappa Plays Zappa > From: Tom Clark > Subject: Zappa Plays Zappa > > Went to Dweezil's "Zappa Plays Zappa" show last night in Berkeley. > Phenomenal. Jealous. Oh, and Rudy Rucker was at that show, too. You could have chatted him up about set theory and the fourth dimension. http:// www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2007/08/21/436/ Double jealous. +++++ Sent from my Mac IIfx. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:23:55 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: the thread of hotness (Re: BSG hottness) Gene Hopstetter Jr. says: > Nope, that's the teal dress: > > http://galacticabbs.com/index.php?automodule=gallery&req=si&img=9171 that's a nice site. here my girl: http://galacticabbs.com/index.php?automodule=gallery&req=si&img=58954 she's not got the smart-ass smile (for good reason), but it does show her lovely mouth. oh, N.S. (Not Starbuck) but i love this scene so: http://galacticabbs.com/index.php?automodule=gallery&req=si&img=59178 gene - need. more. nicknames. "madame airlock" and "blanders" are new to me and i'm enjoying them very much. was "madame airlock" from the show? as ever, lauren p.s. tc, you're behind the times if you're only now discovering my, uh, "fondness" for starbuck. p.p.s. and all those guys...yawn. except the elder adama. i'm probably an outlyer on that one - it's just that little thing i have for authority figures, especially the intense and quiet ones. p.p.p.s. btw, i miss ellen. - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 19:04:31 -0500 From: "Sumiko Keay" Subject: Re: the thread of hotness (Re: BSG hottness) I believe that both nicknames are from TWOP. Sumi On 8/21/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > Gene Hopstetter Jr. says: > > Nope, that's the teal dress: > > > > http://galacticabbs.com/index.php?automodule=gallery&req=si&img=9171 > > that's a nice site. > > here my girl: > http://galacticabbs.com/index.php?automodule=gallery&req=si&img=58954 > she's not got the smart-ass smile (for good reason), but it does show > her lovely mouth. > > oh, N.S. (Not Starbuck) but i love this scene so: > http://galacticabbs.com/index.php?automodule=gallery&req=si&img=59178 > > gene - need. more. nicknames. "madame airlock" and "blanders" are new > to me and i'm enjoying them very much. was "madame airlock" from the > show? > > as ever, > lauren > > p.s. tc, you're behind the times if you're only now discovering my, > uh, "fondness" for starbuck. > > p.p.s. and all those guys...yawn. except the elder adama. i'm > probably an outlyer on that one - it's just that little thing i have > for authority figures, especially the intense and quiet ones. > > p.p.p.s. btw, i miss ellen. > > -- > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." > > - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 20:16:39 -0400 From: gaseous clay Subject: Re: the thread of hotness (Re: BSG hottness) one time at band camp, Lauren Elizabeth (softboygirl@gmail.com) said: >p.p.s. and all those guys...yawn. except the elder adama. i'm >probably an outlyer on that one - it's just that little thing i have >for authority figures, especially the intense and quiet ones. plus, there's something to be said for a puss that looks like a pock-marked asteroid. woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:40:21 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Zappa Plays Zappa On Aug 21, 2007, at 2:24 PM, Gene Hopstetter Jr. wrote: >> From: Tom Clark >> Subject: Zappa Plays Zappa >> >> Went to Dweezil's "Zappa Plays Zappa" show last night in >> Berkeley. Phenomenal. > > Jealous. > > Oh, and Rudy Rucker was at that show, too. You could have chatted > him up about set theory and the fourth dimension. http:// > www.rudyrucker.com/blog/2007/08/21/436/ I think there were about 1,000 Rudy Ruckers there. I tell you, it's quite a sight to witness a 65 year-old "hippie chick" trying to dance to "G-Spot Tornado". > +++++ > Sent from my Mac IIfx. 68040 FTW!!! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 17:41:38 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: the thread of hotness (Re: BSG hottness) On Aug 21, 2007, at 4:23 PM, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > here my girl: > http://galacticabbs.com/index.php?automodule=gallery&req=si&img=58954 > she's not got the smart-ass smile (for good reason), but it does show > her lovely mouth. > > p.s. tc, you're behind the times if you're only now discovering my, > uh, "fondness" for starbuck. You keep writing like that and I'm gonna read every word you write! - -tc, apparently still 14 years old... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 01:47:46 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Ironical Ludditism re: feg luddite tendencies first i'll come clean to say i have the modern amenities such as a cell phone, DSL (well, _they_ say it's DSL), a microwave, the DVD player, the honda, etc., etc. (although, in the balance, i'll say one thing that is endlessly lovely about mathematics is that it requires only a pencil, paper, and some curiosity.) and, okay, i don't even know the actual definition of a luddite. but will that stop me from hanging out in this thread? (no.) i am of the belief that technology gives a sort of illusion of making one more fulfilled, or happier, and but that, when it comes down to it, it doesn't. i think much of it isolates people and makes community harder and harder to create. there was a study awhile back that gave a correlation between countries and "happiness" and the less-technological advanced countries fared better. but, also, i think it's human nature to invent and discover and build and fuck up and be kind of miserable as they build and invent and discover and fuck up. i think people will chose a lot of things over "happiness", and so while i believe that technology is a source of disconnection and dissatisfaction, i also think it's completely beside the point. just try and stop us. whatever the consequences, we'll do it anyway. david foster wallace has a pretty long and sort of irritating-to-read but very good essay on some of these issues in his book "a supposedly fun thing i'll never do again." it was the essay that talks a lot about the relationship between television and fiction - it's called "e pluribus unum." i like the idea in it that people who watch a lot of television have do have a sort of sense that they are missing out on something, but, nevertheless, it doesn't stop them from watching. kind of like technology. as ever, lauren - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 23:16:38 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Ironical Ludditism On Aug 21, 2007, at 10:47 PM, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > but, also, i think it's human nature to invent and discover and build > and fuck up and be kind of miserable as they build and invent and > discover and fuck up. i think people will chose a lot of things over > "happiness", and so while i believe that technology is a source of > disconnection and dissatisfaction, i also think it's completely beside > the point. just try and stop us. whatever the consequences, we'll do > it anyway. That about sums it up, right there. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:53:18 +0100 From: craigie* Subject: Re: I was walking.. the only RH Tee I ever owned was the Man With The LightBulb Head cartoon one from 85. And I still wear it, although I have longsince lopped off the sleeves and neck to make it into a vest (read: wifebeater if you are in the US) style thingie. Ah, the impetuousness of youth... c* On 21/08/07, Michael Sweeney wrote: > > Mike Swedene ambled and rambled: > > >towards 6th Ave (on 23rd street) heading in to work this morning and > >spotted a Soft Boys Crab t-shirt on a passer-by. The day can't be all > >that bad? can it? > > Coinidentally enough, just the other day, all the way from thee official > Museum of Robyn Hitchcock, I received my green, 'Trolleybus" RH & the V3 > t-shirt. > > Not sure why exactly, but even though I've been a Robyn fan for 20+ years > and a regular (gotta be 20+ shows by now) RH / Egyptians / SBs / V3 > concertgoer since the early '90s, this is the first RH-related t-shirt > I've > ever purchased. Had my eye on those cones a few years back, but was > momentarily short on funds (think I bought beer with the cash I had on me > instead), so...there you have it.... > > > Michael "...And this has been yet another bit of RH-related personal > minutiae (say, I really oughta get a blog going for that sort of crap) > (...ah -- or maybe not)" Sweeney > > _________________________________________________________________ > Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more .then map the best > route! > > http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&ss=yp.bars~yp.pizza~yp.movie%20theater&cp=42.358996~-71.056691&style=r&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=950607&encType=1&FORM=MGAC01 > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:22:59 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: I was walking.. My 1992 "There are no jokes in the bible Keith" tee is still in great shape. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of craigie* Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:53 AM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Re: I was walking.. the only RH Tee I ever owned was the Man With The LightBulb Head cartoon one from 85. And I still wear it, although I have longsince lopped off the sleeves and neck to make it into a vest (read: wifebeater if you are in the US) style thingie. Ah, the impetuousness of youth... c* On 21/08/07, Michael Sweeney wrote: > > Mike Swedene ambled and rambled: > > >towards 6th Ave (on 23rd street) heading in to work this morning and > >spotted a Soft Boys Crab t-shirt on a passer-by. The day can't be > >all that bad? can it? > > Coinidentally enough, just the other day, all the way from thee > official Museum of Robyn Hitchcock, I received my green, 'Trolleybus" > RH & the V3 t-shirt. > > Not sure why exactly, but even though I've been a Robyn fan for 20+ > years and a regular (gotta be 20+ shows by now) RH / Egyptians / SBs / > V3 concertgoer since the early '90s, this is the first RH-related > t-shirt I've ever purchased. Had my eye on those cones a few years > back, but was momentarily short on funds (think I bought beer with the > cash I had on me instead), so...there you have it.... > > > Michael "...And this has been yet another bit of RH-related personal > minutiae (say, I really oughta get a blog going for that sort of crap) > (...ah -- or maybe not)" Sweeney > > _________________________________________________________________ > Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more .then map the best > route! > > http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&ss=yp.bars~yp.pizza~yp.movie%20t > heater&cp=42.358996~-71.056691&style=r&lvl=13&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000 > &scene=950607&encType=1&FORM=MGAC01 > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:46:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: Ironical Ludditism On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > i am of the belief that technology gives a sort of illusion of making > one more fulfilled, or happier, and but that, when it comes down to > it, it doesn't. i think much of it isolates people and makes > community harder and harder to create. That's painting with a rather broad brush, though (although you do qualify it with "much of it"). I mean, the wheel: pretty awesome. Seriously, though: transportation technology has made us less isolated, I'd say, and so has movable type. I'm personally grateful for medical technology, otherwise I might find it rather difficult to walk and pretty hard to grip a pen. Perhaps it's modern electronic communication technology? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:25:41 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Ironical Ludditism On 8/22/07, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > > i am of the belief that technology gives a sort of illusion of making > > one more fulfilled, or happier, and but that, when it comes down to > > it, it doesn't. i think much of it isolates people and makes > > community harder and harder to create. > > > Seriously, though: transportation technology has made us less isolated, > I'd say, and so has movable type. I'm personally grateful for medical > technology, otherwise I might find it rather difficult to walk and pretty > hard to grip a pen. I would have to say, to quote the great Firesign Theatre, that technology is "a power so great it can only be used for good or evil." That is, it has had such far-ranging effects that, inevitably, it's caused problems as well as improved things. You can't have the one without the other - and I, for one, am glad not to have died of the plague or died at the elderly age of 37 eight years ago. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:34:47 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Ironical Ludditism tc says: > That about sums it up, right there. /* wonders if tc is now reading my posts in case of mention of starbuck fantasy fodder */ as ever, lauren - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #300 ********************************