From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #284 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, August 6 2007 Volume 16 : Number 284 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will [] Re: reap [2fs ] Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will [] More iTunes boneheadery [Rex ] Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will [] Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will [] Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will [] Re: More iTunes boneheadery [Steve Schiavo ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #277 [djini@voicenet.com] Re: More iTunes boneheadery [Sebastian Hagedorn ] fegdom (was Re: 1-800-FEG-TECH) ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #277 [2fs ] Re: 1-800-FEG-TECH [Tom Clark ] Re: fegdom (was Re: 1-800-FEG-TECH) [2fs ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #277 [Christopher Gross ] Re: fegdom (was Re: 1-800-FEG-TECH) [craigie* ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #277 [2fs ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #277 ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: More iTunes boneheadery [Tom Clark ] Re: More iTunes boneheadery ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will [] RE: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 21:59:42 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will 2fs wrote: > > I like Delta blues alright...and you'll > notice that stuff is nowhere near so rigid about structure. And Piedmont blues is astonishingly jolly -- and that means I get to mention Sonny Terry again. Stewart (can't you tell I have an exam I should be studying for?) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 21:05:04 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: reap On 8/5/07, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > Lee Hazlewood Did he die with his "Boots" on? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 21:10:06 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will On 8/5/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > plus don't the cool kids buy vinyl? (although i suppose that doesn't > mean they listen to it.) > > okay who can tell me how that last sentence should be punctuated? i > don't like a parenthetical statement as its own sentence. but if i > made it one sentence, i wouldn't know where to put the "?". Eh, I think it should be two sentences, as you typed it - exactly because it really doesn't make sense to chunk the parenthetical remark in before the question mark (which isn't relevant to that parenthetical remarks). Speaking of, here's what Google Ads thinks I'm interested in, based on this thread: Get Harmonica tones. Complimentary instrument ringtones! I'm not exactly sure how an instrument can give me a compliment. I will state, however, that a harmonica ringtone is officially even more irritating than those strolling fratboys with harmonicas I mentioned. If I had need of a ringtone (if I had a cell phone), I think I would like the little brass fanfare used in _The Prisoner_ just before the woman says "good morning, good morning, good morning!" Especially if it could be rendered complimentary. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 21:10:29 -0700 From: Rex Subject: More iTunes boneheadery Okay, so everythings happy with iTunes in my new locations except for the artwork thing. I can't normally seem to add artwork to my tracks via the little "drag it here and drop it" thing. (Except that one time I could, but don't ask me how). I'm pretty much just dragging the images either from my hard drive or from like AMG entries or whatever. They drop in and stay there, but when I go back to that track or album, they're gone. Any ideas? Possiby but I really don't think so related: the two outboard drives which actually house my music (as previously, painfully detailed) serve just as well attached to the Mac as the old PC, but for some reason one of them is recognized as "read only" while the other one can be messed around with as I please. Not a huge deal, since the "read only" one is full to the gills, but it means I can't alter or delete any of the files from it, which is something that I kind of enjoy doing (cleaning up other people's misnameing of songs, clarifiying what album a track is really one, etc.) so it seems like I should be able to mess with it. I set all the sharing permissions I could to as wide open as they'd go on the PC, where it was created, but still the Mac sees it as locked. What's up with that? Interestingly (or not), this new version of iTunes fo Mac that I've just downloaded has changed the alphabetizing protocol yet again. It now ignores punctuation, meaning that it automatically does what Jeff N. mentioned having to trick it into doing before: putting 'Til Tuesday in the damn T's and and suchlike. It also seems to have taken to disregarding the articles "a" and "an" as well as "the" (dunno about "teh", though). This leads me to (A) wonder if the "A" in the name of the band A Camp is supposed to be an article (I'd assumed not, and that it was sort of the first in a series of camps, preceding B Camp and C Camp, or just a complete nonsense name) and (B) be really embarassed that the first artist to show up in my queue is now neither ? and the Mysterians *nor* ...And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead, but instead... A-Ha. Rex PS Lauren, let me know if you find any more aspirin... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 21:54:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will On Sun, 5 Aug 2007, 2fs wrote: > And you know, we're all showing our age by assuming that people > generally conceive of albums in two parts any more - it's pretty much > been CD since, oh, 1990 at least. That's nearly two decades of no such > thing as one side or the other. Remember "Attention CD Listeners" on Tom Petty's "Full Moon Fever"? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 00:10:58 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will On 8/5/07, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > > On Sun, 5 Aug 2007, 2fs wrote: > > > And you know, we're all showing our age by assuming that people > > generally conceive of albums in two parts any more - it's pretty much > > been CD since, oh, 1990 at least. That's nearly two decades of no such > > thing as one side or the other. > > Remember "Attention CD Listeners" on Tom Petty's "Full Moon Fever"? I'm not sure that's on later pressings...I should go check. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 07:41:57 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will - -- Rex is rumored to have mumbled on 5. August 2007 16:13:21 -0700 regarding Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will: > Good harmonica has > done much much to enrich the world. Perhaps bad harmonica has had > just as much or more negative impact, but one could make the same > argument about most any musical instrument/abstract concept/species > etc. Except for the cowbell, of course! You can never have too much (or bad) cowbell ... - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 01:13:11 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: More iTunes boneheadery On Aug 5, 2007, at 11:10 PM, Rex wrote: > I'm pretty much just dragging > the images either from my hard drive or from like AMG entries or > whatever. They drop in and stay there, but when I go back to that > track or album, they're gone. Any ideas? Try converting a track and see if the art will stay on the new file. If so, there is something in the old file(s) that is preventing the art from staying (how's that for technical). I had a few mp3s that would not keep art, but the resulting files after converting to Apple Lossless would do so. It might also work with other formats. - - Steve ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 11:43:24 -0400 (EDT) From: djini@voicenet.com Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #277 Brian wrote: > > Yikes! My tone was way off. That was not meant as a scold at all! Not > slightly! But now I don't see how I possibly expected you to know that. It > was just me chiming in knowingly, obviously in an awkward way. I think > Lauren's Buffy journey is going to be just fine! I guess I forgot that > there's a whole universe around me that takes things like spoiler alerts > seriously. I apologize for clumsily appearing to call you out, Jeanne. Oops, I meant to reply to the whole list but just replied to Brian. Anyway, apology accepted, sorry I misread the tone (misread email tone - a modern plague!), no harm done. However, I did want to differ with Lauren's original assertion - that early-era Willow has no darkness. I think that on the contrary, as the weird outsider kid who's been teased and bullied at school and misunderstood or ignored at home, Willow's character starts off in a much darker place than Buffy's. Part of Willow and Xander's function is to be Buffy's guides now that she has crossed over from being someone primarily concerned with the surface of things to someone who sees the potential ugliness lurking behind every veneered smile. Not that Willow's not sweet, but in a way she is already much less innocent than Buffy when the series starts off. Jeanne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 10:26:00 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: More iTunes boneheadery Hi Rex, - --On 5. August 2007 21:10:29 -0700 Rex wrote: > Possiby but I really don't think so related: the two outboard drives > which actually house my music (as previously, painfully detailed) > serve just as well attached to the Mac as the old PC, but for some > reason one of them is recognized as "read only" while the other one > can be messed around with as I please. Not a huge deal, since the > "read only" one is full to the gills, but it means I can't alter or > delete any of the files from it, which is something that I kind of > enjoy doing (cleaning up other people's misnameing of songs, > clarifiying what album a track is really one, etc.) so it seems like I > should be able to mess with it. I set all the sharing permissions I > could to as wide open as they'd go on the PC, where it was created, > but still the Mac sees it as locked. What's up with that? just a guess: is the checkbox 'Ignore ownership on this volume' checked or not? Check it if it isn't. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 07:42:56 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #277 On 8/5/07, djini@voicenet.com wrote: > Oops, I meant to reply to the whole list but just replied to Brian. Anyway, apology > accepted, sorry I misread the tone (misread email tone - a modern plague!), Oh, it's not that bad. Less a fatal pestilence than an annoying film on one's teeth... yes, a modern plaque. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 05:09:34 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: fegdom (was Re: 1-800-FEG-TECH) Stewart says: > (perhaps the only feg with a dulcimer, but I'm okay with that.) my sister has one. or at least did at some point. she has/had a mandolin as well. i've only see her play guitar as of late. her husband plays accordion. i like him anyway. and she likes RH quite a bit. although not in a way that i would call "fegish". she e.g. listens to albums i buy her and has accompanied me to robyn shows, and i think she plays her (very own version of) "bones in the ground", but, on the other hand, i likely say "hitchcock" when i talk about robyn with her so it seems she's not quite there. which, big fracking surprise, brought up a question for me. you folks have probably already hashed it but feel free to rehash: what constitutes a feg? my first though about what to ask was whether it has to involve: (a) being on the list (b) having an obsessive or borderline obsession or at least being able to see an obsession in the horizon somewhere and what form of and/or or necessary/sufficient conditions of combinations or lack thereof of (a) and (b) it takes. but then it occurred to me that (c) self-identification is likely one non-negotiable requirement. although it's likely my sister probably doesn't know what the hell a "feg" is so that might be a bit of philosophical sticking point. not unlike the argument that how can a someone in some remote place who has never heard of jesus be sent to hell? if you don't know the man, what chance do you have as taking him as your personal savior. i think that's rather harsh. perhaps that's why missionaries are so spunky about spreading the word in places i've only heard of from...missionaries. as ever, lauren - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 09:54:13 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #277 On 8/6/07, Rex wrote: > > On 8/5/07, djini@voicenet.com wrote: > > > Oops, I meant to reply to the whole list but just replied to Brian. > Anyway, apology > > accepted, sorry I misread the tone (misread email tone - a modern > plague!), > > Oh, it's not that bad. Less a fatal pestilence than an annoying film > on one's teeth... yes, a modern plaque. See, ten years ago I would have pretended to have misread the usual sans-serif confusion between "rn" and "m" and said, "a modem plaque?" But that's sorta like horseshoe jokes, isn't it. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 08:10:55 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #277 On 8/5/07, djini@voicenet.com wrote: > > > > However, I did want to differ with Lauren's original assertion - that > early-era Willow > has no darkness. I think that on the contrary, as the weird outsider kid > who's been > teased and bullied at school and misunderstood or ignored at home, > Willow's character > starts off in a much darker place than Buffy's. Part of Willow and > Xander's function is > to be Buffy's guides now that she has crossed over from being someone > primarily > concerned with the surface of things to someone who sees the potential > ugliness lurking > behind every veneered smile. Not that Willow's not sweet, but in a way she > is already > much less innocent than Buffy when the series starts off. True - but whatever darkness is *in her* is rather hidden at that point. What is interesting is that, later in the series, you can look back on earlier Willow and see the way her later character is foreshadowed in her earlier character. There's one scene in particular I'm thinking of (concerning "darkness") but to talk about it would be spoilerrific. There's also the neat little moment concerning another aspect of her personality, also foreshadowed in a seemingly throwaway moment (which has nothing to do with "darkness")...again, I won't be specific now... - ---------------- Now playing: Charlie Parr - Roses While I'm Living - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 08:07:03 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: 1-800-FEG-TECH On Aug 5, 2007, at 6:40 PM, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > Lauren Elizabeth wrote: >> also if you know the answer to this question, maybe you know the >> answer to whether it's bad to leave a cd in pause mode for a long >> time? > > Not for the disc, but it probably means the life of your CD/DVD > player's drive motor will be shortened a tiny bit. The rotational > speed in a player is pretty well below that required to deform a > disc (unless it's already cracked). I haven't checked this personally, but I would guess that the player would spin down the disc during pause and just leave the last image in the frame buffer. If so, you could pause it forever with no mechanical wear and/or tear. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 10:03:18 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: fegdom (was Re: 1-800-FEG-TECH) On 8/6/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > Stewart says: > > (perhaps the only feg with a dulcimer, but I'm okay with that.) > > my sister has one. or at least did at some point. she has/had a > mandolin as well. i've only see her play guitar as of late. her > husband plays accordion. i like him anyway. A good friend of mine owns a dulcimer. The Robyn I've played for her she likes, and among her community of folk fans and bluegrass fans, Robyn gets some respect (playing with Gillian and Dave helped) - but I wouldn't call her a feg. what constitutes a feg? Fegs know more about aquatic creatures than their own interests might suggest. They are familiar with a wide variety of colorful shirts. They know the term "blepharism." They are apt to giggle at references to the Welsh Policemen's Chorus. They may fear cones - or love them. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 11:43:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #277 On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, 2fs wrote: > What is interesting is that, later in the series, you can look back on > earlier Willow and see the way her later character is foreshadowed in her > earlier character. There's one scene in particular I'm thinking of > (concerning "darkness") but to talk about it would be spoilerrific. There's > also the neat little moment concerning another aspect of her personality, > also foreshadowed in a seemingly throwaway moment (which has nothing to do > with "darkness")...again, I won't be specific now... Well, we could discuss spoilers Usenet-style, using rot13 to hide them: http://www.rot13.com/index.php The disadvantage of doing this is that it would tend to blow away any remaining shreds of a non-geeky image one might have; but some of us consider that a price worth paying. - --Chris "I'm not ashamed. It's the computer age. Nerds are in! ... They're still in, right?" --Willow ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 16:17:04 +0100 From: craigie* Subject: Re: fegdom (was Re: 1-800-FEG-TECH) I think being a Feg is a state of mind. I think I was a Feg long before I found this list. Of course, I *was* also a member of the original fegManiax (and I have the badge to prove it - not that we need any steenking badges...) back in the bad old days before IntarWeb. But I wouldn't say I was obsessive, or even bordering... I mean, I enjoy RH's music, but haven't seen him live since 1988... and the releases get more difficult to find (well, here in Manchester, anyway) every year. I did pick up Ole! Tarantula at the weekend though. In a second-hand store. And it was a promo copy. Which was nice. c* On 06/08/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > Stewart says: > > (perhaps the only feg with a dulcimer, but I'm okay with that.) > > my sister has one. or at least did at some point. she has/had a > mandolin as well. i've only see her play guitar as of late. her > husband plays accordion. i like him anyway. > > and she likes RH quite a bit. although not in a way that i would call > "fegish". she e.g. listens to albums i buy her and has accompanied me > to robyn shows, and i think she plays her (very own version of) "bones > in the ground", but, on the other hand, i likely say "hitchcock" when > i talk about robyn with her so it seems she's not quite there. > > which, big fracking surprise, brought up a question for me. you folks > have probably already hashed it but feel free to rehash: > > what constitutes a feg? > > my first though about what to ask was whether it has to involve: > (a) being on the list > (b) having an obsessive or borderline obsession or at least being able > to see an obsession in the horizon somewhere > > and what form of and/or or necessary/sufficient conditions of > combinations or lack thereof of (a) and (b) it takes. but then it > occurred to me that (c) self-identification is likely one > non-negotiable requirement. although it's likely my sister probably > doesn't know what the hell a "feg" is so that might be a bit of > philosophical sticking point. not unlike the argument that how can a > someone in some remote place who has never heard of jesus be sent to > hell? if you don't know the man, what chance do you have as taking > him as your personal savior. i think that's rather harsh. perhaps > that's why missionaries are so spunky about spreading the word in > places i've only heard of from...missionaries. > > as ever, > lauren > > -- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." > > - The Buddha > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 10:57:19 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #277 On 8/6/07, Christopher Gross wrote: > > On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, 2fs wrote: > > > What is interesting is that, later in the series, you can look back on > > earlier Willow and see the way her later character is foreshadowed in > her > > earlier character. There's one scene in particular I'm thinking of > > (concerning "darkness") but to talk about it would be spoilerrific. > There's > > also the neat little moment concerning another aspect of her > personality, > > also foreshadowed in a seemingly throwaway moment (which has nothing to > do > > with "darkness")...again, I won't be specific now... > > Well, we could discuss spoilers Usenet-style, using rot13 to hide them: > > http://www.rot13.com/index.php > > The disadvantage of doing this is that it would tend to blow away any > remaining shreds of a non-geeky image one might have; but some of us > consider that a price worth paying. More geeky than I can handle. We could just use code words that are obvious to cognoscenti...not because of their meaning but because the situation is obvious. For example: in S6 when Willow becomes HYPERGORDIC, you can sorta see that way back in I think it was S2, when she becomes a bit overenthusiastic in her VERDLING (the computer thing): clear that that's a nascent component of her personality. Or when she realizes she's FORDOLIAN: there'd been that alternate-reality bit a season or two earlier, after which she said "I think I was a little FERDY," some comment about how the alt-reality was totally different, and Angel implies, no, actually...not so different. Didn't think much of it at the time, but as things turned out... Gotta get back to GRICK now. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 12:00:52 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #277 Chris says: > "I'm not ashamed. It's the computer age. Nerds are in! ... They're still > in, right?" > --Willow btw, i love the computer lab set. especially the big, handmade poster that has: CYBER SPACE at the top of it. i also try to read what's on the blackboard. i think one episode had some 1970s-style BASIC code. as ever, lauren - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 09:03:18 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: More iTunes boneheadery On Aug 5, 2007, at 9:10 PM, Rex wrote: > > Possiby but I really don't think so related: the two outboard drives > which actually house my music (as previously, painfully detailed) > serve just as well attached to the Mac as the old PC, but for some > reason one of them is recognized as "read only" while the other one > can be messed around with as I please. Is it an NTFS disk? Mac OS X only reads NTFS, but doesn't write. On a related note, in preparing for my re-encoding project I just wrote an AppleScript that saves off the album artwork for all my albums and as a side effect creates a file of all the tracks that are missing artwork. It needs some fine tuning, but I'll share it with you dude, if you'd only request. Also, my parents are visiting and I bought a new MacBook for my mom to get her away from the horrific Gateway she's been saddled with. As I'm showing her how to use iPhoto my wife comes by and accidently spills a glass of iced tea on the keyboard. Now it won't boot, so we're off to the Apple Store today to have them dry it out. How 'bout those Mets? - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 04:45:51 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: More iTunes boneheadery Rex says: > PS Lauren, let me know if you find any more aspirin... yes i did. oddly enough it was in the kitchen cabinet which is not the usual place. you are so thoughtful to follow up on my articulation headache**. as ever, lauren ** insert That Which Shall Remain Untyped. - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 13:11:33 -0400 From: "David Stovall" Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will > From: 2fs > Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will > > Although an album of Dylan covers done with voice, acoustic guitar or piano, > and bagpipes subbing for and playing transcribed versions of the harmonica > solos would be interesting. At least in Scotland. I'd love to hear something like this. I must be one of a *very* limited demographic, in that I like just about any sound (but not smell, and if *dey has uh flavr* I don't wanna know about it) that comes out of a bagpipe. I think they're *just neat*, and some of the best music made on them is transcendent - even the predictable ones like Amazing Grace and whatever that one is that's played at funerals. And, yes, I have heard a few of them live, in person and up close. This same fascination for odd tones/timbres also leads me to things like Derek Bailey, Euegene Chadbourne, Henry Kaiser, John Zorn (man, I'd LOVE to hear Zorn strangle a bagpipe the way he does a sax). (I contend that the evil opposite of bagpipes is that early-80's mushy almost-no-tonal-center Van Halen "Jump" synthesizer sound. Shblah, shblah, shblah - boring, boring, lame and boring. The entirety of music would be better off without that sound.) > Generally, harmonica is an annoying instrument - but then, I'm on record as > finding 95% of blues annoying and boring as hell. Basically, once blues got > formalized into the same three chords and the same 12-bar structure, there > seems no point to me in doing it over again. You could take bits from any > ten random electric-blues-style records, stitch them together into the same > key, and no one would be the wiser. I like Delta blues alright...and you'll > notice that stuff is nowhere near so rigid about structure. Agreed also re the 12-bar rote blues - and it's why I always have to qualify any utterance of why "I'm a blues fan (but,...)" or "I couldn't care less about hearing another blues band (but,...). My eternal antidote: Mississippi John Hurt. d9 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 09:42:33 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Stewart C. Russell Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 10:00 PM To: a sweet little cupcake...baked by the devil! Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will 2fs wrote: >> >> I like Delta blues alright...and you'll notice that stuff is nowhere >> near so rigid about structure. Stewart came back with: >And Piedmont blues is astonishingly jolly -- and that means I get to mention Sonny Terry again. I have one Sonny Terry and Brownie McGee album, the one with the Randy Newman cut "Sail Away" on it where Arlo Guthrie sings with Sonny and Terry. John Mayall is also on it singing and playing on a cut "White Boy Lost In The Blues". They also do a nice take on "People Get Ready". Great album. I've had it on vinyl for 30 years and now have it on cd. Michael B. NP Tierney Sutton - On The Other Side ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #284 ********************************