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fegmaniax-digest        Sunday, August 5 2007        Volume 16 : Number 283



                               Today's Subjects:
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  My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will  []
  i knew the buddha, and you're no buddha  ["Lauren Elizabeth" <softboygirl@]
  Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will  []
  Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will  []
  Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my  Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will  []
  Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will  []
  Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my  Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will  []
  Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will  []
  Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my  Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will  []
  Re:the peter murphy thread     ["Lauren Elizabeth" <softboygirl@gmail.com>]
  Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will  []
  Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will  []
  1-800-FEG-TECH                 ["Lauren Elizabeth" <softboygirl@gmail.com>]
  Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my  Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will  []
  Re:the peter murphy thread               [Jeff Dwarf <munki1972@yahoo.com>]
  Re: the peter murphy thread    ["Lauren Elizabeth" <softboygirl@gmail.com>]
  Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will  []
  Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will  []
  Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will  []
  Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will  []
  Re: 1-800-FEG-TECH                ["Stewart C. Russell" <scruss@gmail.com>]
  reap                              ["Stewart C. Russell" <scruss@gmail.com>]
  Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will  []

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Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 09:28:33 -0700
From: "Stacked Crooked" <etews@inwa.net>
Subject: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will

<Aw, you just like anything that produces more digests.>

true.  although, believe it or not, there are some topics that i generally
skip over.


<When are you going to give in and switch your subscription to
individual-email format?>

ha!  i attempted to do just that several months ago, and somehow bungled
the confirmation stage.  i figure it was s-t-n's way of telling me to keep
on reading via the digest.


<Wow, Bergman one day, Antonioni the next! Wait, actually the same day!
Isn't that fitting?>

that raises kind of an intersting question, though.  obviously, one's death
certificate will list the local date/time of the deceased.  but for, e.g.,
wikipedial purposes, is (or ought) that converted to GMT?


<letters and other first-class mail have been done by weight for as long as
i've been mailing things - x cents for the first ounce and y cents for each
additional ounce (with y being about 2/3 of x) until you hit some magic
weight where the rate goes flat.  the size really has not mattered so much
- - you could send an 8-1/2" x 11" envelope or a regular letter or a CD in a
bubble mailer.>

not true, more's the pity.  to qualify as "letter-sized", there were both
minimum and maximum lengths and widths, a maximum (though probably not
minimum) thickness (quarter-inch, if memory serves), and also a required
range of the *ratio* of length to width.  8.5 X 11 could not be sent
letter-sized, though i suppose that some smaller bubble-mailers could do,
if there weren't too much padding.  of course, you could still send
first-class, but you had to pay an oversize surcharge (seventeen cents --
again, if memory serves).


<...it's just occurred to me that it's been ages since I heard the saxful
version of "The Man Who Invented Himself", ghastly, mellow, or otherwise.
It was there the first couple hundred times I listened to that album, but
to all intents and purposes it doesn't exist any more, la la la la la la.
Anybody got a lead on that one?>

that's the reason i didn't sell my pressing of the aftermath CD when the
rhino CDs were released.  a major oversight on rhino's part, in my opinion.
 it'll for-sure be in the Big Fat Discography (progress is being made,
though am planning to wait until the new yep roc pressings are issued), but
i can get it to you sooner if you needs must hear it sooner.

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Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 15:52:23 -0400
From: "Lauren Elizabeth" <softboygirl@gmail.com>
Subject: i knew the buddha, and you're no buddha

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article2194682.ece

as ever,
lauren

- -- 
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"People with opinions just go around bothering one another."

                   - The Buddha

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Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 14:07:07 -0700
From: Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will

On 8/5/07, Stacked Crooked <etews@inwa.net> wrote:

> <...it's just occurred to me that it's been ages since I heard the saxful
> version of "The Man Who Invented Himself", ghastly, mellow, or otherwise.
> It was there the first couple hundred times I listened to that album, but
> to all intents and purposes it doesn't exist any more, la la la la la la.
> Anybody got a lead on that one?>
>
> that's the reason i didn't sell my pressing of the aftermath CD when the
> rhino CDs were released.  a major oversight on rhino's part, in my opinion.

The thing that reminded me of that oversight was rediscovering
"Invisible History", whereon the sax-less version was presented as a
rarity (it predated the Rhino reissues).  Oh, the ghastly mellow
irony.  In any case, I actually like the saxes on that one.

- -Rex

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Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 17:26:06 -0400
From: "Lauren Elizabeth" <softboygirl@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will

Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com> says:
> On 8/5/07, Stacked Crooked <etews@inwa.net> wrote:
>
> > <...it's just occurred to me that it's been ages since I heard the saxful
> > version of "The Man Who Invented Himself", ghastly, mellow, or otherwise.
> > It was there the first couple hundred times I listened to that album, but
> > to all intents and purposes it doesn't exist any more, la la la la la la.
> > Anybody got a lead on that one?>
> >
> > that's the reason i didn't sell my pressing of the aftermath CD when the
> > rhino CDs were released.  a major oversight on rhino's part, in my opinion.
>
> The thing that reminded me of that oversight was rediscovering
> "Invisible History", whereon the sax-less version was presented as a
> rarity (it predated the Rhino reissues).

i'm a dunce when it comes to this sort of stuff.  i read and
understand what you guys are saying, but i don't have any idea which
versions i've been listening to for the last (nearly) 20 years.  i had
the pre-rhino cds, but probably stupidly gave them to a friend when i
got the rhino ones (i never and probably will never get rid of any
robyn on vinyl, though.)

but in my favour, i do always notice a lyric change.

and i would notice if the time/space continuum was redone in such a
way that the harmonica had never existed.   i mean, if, in one
continuum, it were possible to notice a change relative to the other
one.  it would be a better place.

btw, my first RH on cd was "eye."  i had actually gotten the album on
vinyl and it had a warp, and when i went to exchange the album, i
noticed the cd.  the cd had more songs, so i asked the guy if i could
"trade up" (or "down" depending on your preferences.)

on a somewhat-related tangent, i bought a cd player fairly late when
there existed an album i wanted to buy that wasn't released on vinyl.
it was (go ahead, laugh) "deep" by peter murphy.  if you want to
continue laughing i'll say that if i wasn't so lazy about changing the
songs in the player, it would probably get an occasional listen.

as ever,
lauren

- -- 
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"People with opinions just go around bothering one another."

                   - The Buddha

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Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 15:35:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Dwarf <munki1972@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my  Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will

Lauren Elizabeth <softboygirl@gmail.com> wrote:
> on a somewhat-related tangent, i bought a cd player fairly late
> when there existed an album i wanted to buy that wasn't released on
> vinyl. it was (go ahead, laugh) "deep" by peter murphy.  if you
> want to continue laughing i'll say that if i wasn't so lazy about
> changing the songs in the player, it would probably get an
> occasional listen.

Why would you laugh about that one? It's a nice record; probably
doesn't need two versions of "Roll Call" to close it -- they probably
should have put the full band version of "Strange Kind of Love" that
was the b-side to "The Line Between the Devil's Teeth (And That Which
Cannot be Repeat!)" in between then, so as to not make the bonus
track sound quite as goofy. Shame about the stuff he's done since
then, for the most part though.


"Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters

.


       
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Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 16:13:21 -0700
From: Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will

On 8/5/07, Lauren Elizabeth <softboygirl@gmail.com> wrote:

> > The thing that reminded me of that oversight was rediscovering
> > "Invisible History", whereon the sax-less version was presented as a
> > rarity (it predated the Rhino reissues).
>
> i'm a dunce when it comes to this sort of stuff.  i read and
> understand what you guys are saying, but i don't have any idea which
> versions i've been listening to for the last (nearly) 20 years.  i had
> the pre-rhino cds, but probably stupidly gave them to a friend when i
> got the rhino ones (i never and probably will never get rid of any
> robyn on vinyl, though.)

In this case, if you her saxes at the beginning of, and throughout the
song, that's the version on the original record.  The saxless version
first surfaced as a bootleg rarity, and then on the Rhino disc
completely replaced the original version, which has now vanished like
the trilobite.

> and i would notice if the time/space continuum was redone in such a
> way that the harmonica had never existed.   i mean, if, in one
> continuum, it were possible to notice a change relative to the other
> one.  it would be a better place.

Since we're specifically discussing "Eye", home of "Queen Elvis" which
has of late suffered from Too Much Harmonica, I can sort of relate,
but I can't go for a harmonica-less continuum.  Good harmonica has
done much much to enrich the world.  Perhaps bad harmonica has had
just as much or more negative impact, but one could make the same
argument about most any musical instrument/abstract concept/species
etc.

Eddie's mention of the Yep Roc reissues has started me off on
compiling a mental wish-list of Rhino Errata to be corrected.  For one
thing, get the bonus tracks out of the middle of albums like "Eye".
For another thing, let's have a double disc of the original issues of
GD and GD with the bonus tracks doled out at the end of each.
Basically, put everything back to its original vinyl version with
bonus tracks afterwards, right?  The Rhino discs were great, but they
had some glaring problems, really.

I wonder what, if anything, will become of the Rhino-only (and to me
essential) You & Oblivion?  I'd like to see it stay together, rather
than being doled out as bonus tracks elsewhere, but maybe it'll just
be consigned to... well... you know...

- -Rex

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Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 19:22:48 -0400
From: "Stewart C. Russell" <scruss@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my  Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will

Lauren Elizabeth wrote:
> 
> and i would notice if the time/space continuum was redone in such a
> way that the harmonica had never existed.

I could live without Dylan-style wailing (and yes, sometimes I'd prefer 
if Robyn didn't play harp), but a world without Sonny Terry? 
Unthinkable. (There's a tiny bit of Sonny in this movie: 
<http://www.archive.org/details/to_hear_your_banjo_play>; it's not 
great, but it's the best I could find.)

You'd also have to forgo the sunny chromatic stylings of Toots 
Thielemans. Without him, you're not going to Sesame Street any time soon.

  Stewart

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Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 16:38:55 -0700
From: Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will

On 8/5/07, Stewart C. Russell <scruss@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lauren Elizabeth wrote:
> >
> > and i would notice if the time/space continuum was redone in such a
> > way that the harmonica had never existed.
>
> I could live without Dylan-style wailing (and yes, sometimes I'd prefer
> if Robyn didn't play harp), but a world without Sonny Terry?
> Unthinkable. (There's a tiny bit of Sonny in this movie:
> <http://www.archive.org/details/to_hear_your_banjo_play>; it's not
> great, but it's the best I could find.)

Of course, one must take into account that Stewart and I are among the
feglist's strongest banjo advocates before one really decides to take
our opinions about harmonicas to heart.

And no, I'm not big on Blues Traveler or anything, but Dylan-style
wailing doesn't bug me too much at all.  Usually.

I'm crap on harmonica.  I make my bassist play it, because... well...
he can, and hey--harmonica playing bassist, you don't see that every
day, right?

- -Rex

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Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 18:43:28 -0500
From: Dolph Chaney <dolphmusic@rcn.com>
Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my  Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will

At 05:35 PM 8/5/2007, Jeff Dwarf <munki1972@yahoo.com> wrote of "Deep":
>It's a nice record; probably
>doesn't need two versions of "Roll Call" to close it -- they probably
>should have put the full band version of "Strange Kind of Love" that
>was the b-side to "The Line Between the Devil's Teeth (And That Which
>Cannot be Repeat!)" in between then, so as to not make the bonus
>track sound quite as goofy.

Word.  For as much as I loved that album when it was new and I was 16, I 
hated hated hated that there were two versions of my least favorite song at 
the end of it.  And I only had it on cassette, so no handy 
just-turn-it-off-and-it's-ready-to-start-again for me.

>Shame about the stuff he's done since
>then, for the most part though.

The immediate successor, HOLY SMOKE, is pretty good, but otherwise, yeh.

I like the reference to Pete Murphy is John Wesley Harding's "Goth Girl" 
very very much.

- -- Dolph

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Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 19:47:30 -0400
From: "Lauren Elizabeth" <softboygirl@gmail.com>
Subject: Re:the peter murphy thread

Jeff no-fs <munki1972@yahoo.com> says:
> Why would you laugh about that one? It's a nice record; probably
> doesn't need two versions of "Roll Call" to close it -- they probably
> should have put the full band version of "Strange Kind of Love" that
> was the b-side to "The Line Between the Devil's Teeth (And That Which
> Cannot be Repeat!)" in between then, so as to not make the bonus
> track sound quite as goofy. Shame about the stuff he's done since
> then, for the most part though.

oh, i was just protecting myself.  he's just so...dramatic (bauhaus'
drama was to be expected.)  i kind of like the two versions of "roll
call" as the song seems to go on forever and is the better for it (i
think it fits into the theme of the song quite well), and so two
versions just makes it go on longer ( = even better.)

his lyrics could be kind of silly.  there was one song that often
crosses my mind which is the one my friend dave used to call "the
antonym song."  i imagine you know which one i'm talking about about.

although, general (or maybe just really specific?) thoughts on murphy:

you gotta admire anyone who chooses to cover "the light pours out of
me" and can sound like he means it.

i also love the title of his (i think it was) first solo album:
"should the world fail to fall apart."

i never what a sicko song "funtime" is until murphy covered it.  that
must have been after "deep".  i'm glad i discovered probably the main
theme of the song, but there's something kind of charming in the
things iggy and bowie get by me without my notice.

as ever,
lauren

- -- 
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"People with opinions just go around bothering one another."

                   - The Buddha

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Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 18:48:17 -0500
From: Dolph Chaney <dolphmusic@rcn.com>
Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will

At 06:13 PM 8/5/2007, Rex wrote:

>Eddie's mention of the Yep Roc reissues has started me off on
>compiling a mental wish-list of Rhino Errata to be corrected.  For one
>thing, get the bonus tracks out of the middle of albums like "Eye".

This comes up from time to time, and I really do seem to be the only person 
in the world who prefers bonus tracks to be in the middle rather than at 
the end.  This recreates the vinyl or cassette experience better.  The CD 
ends with the album's intended last track.  If the bonus tracks need to be 
avoided, the listener gets up and skips them, just as if turning over the 
analog version to the next side.

My exception to this is if the bonus tracks are demos of songs from the 
album.  Then, the 2CD thing (or hi-fi download) is the way to go.

Dolph "yeah I got rules -- I'm a librarian who was raised Baptist" the 
Dolphster

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Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 19:48:43 -0400
From: "Lauren Elizabeth" <softboygirl@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will

Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com> says:
> I'm crap on harmonica.

everyone is crap on harmonica.

as ever,
lauren

- -- 
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"People with opinions just go around bothering one another."

                   - The Buddha

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Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 19:58:25 -0400
From: "Lauren Elizabeth" <softboygirl@gmail.com>
Subject: 1-800-FEG-TECH

does anyone know or have an opinion as to whether it's bad to leave a
dvd in pause mode for a long time?

i don't mean bad for the television (there's a screensaver or the
option of turning the tv off), but more the little laser guy in there.
 or maybe ?the dvd still spins? and the endless spinless wears out the
player sooner.

also if you know the answer to this question, maybe you know the
answer to whether it's bad to leave a cd in pause mode for a long
time?

i don't know why i have a vague feeling that it's not a good idea for
either a cd or dvd other than i do remember it was not good for a vcr
tape (but i assume that had to do with the tape being stopped with
tape heads in contact.)

(btw, this is "pause" vs. "stop" as i'm unlikely to go so far as to
start turning the player off every time i leave the room.  also, for
regular dvds, it's no issue as when i hit stop, play continues from
that point.  it's an issue for audio cds and dvds that are data dvds
with e.g. *.avi files or *.mpg files because hitting stop makes the
player forget its position.)

as ever,
lauren

- -- 
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"People with opinions just go around bothering one another."

                   - The Buddha

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Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 17:12:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Dwarf <munki1972@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my  Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will

Lauren Elizabeth <softboygirl@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rex <spottedeagleray@gmail.com> says:
> > I'm crap on harmonica.
> 
> everyone is crap on harmonica.

Charlie Musselwhite isn't. Nor Stevie Wonder, Johnny Marr,....

"Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters

.


       
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Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 17:08:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Dwarf <munki1972@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re:the peter murphy thread

Lauren Elizabeth <softboygirl@gmail.com> wrote:
> i never what a sicko song "funtime" is until murphy covered it. 
> that must have been after "deep".

Nope; the album before it, Love Hysteria, 1988. Same year R.E.M.
recorded it as a b-side, for "Get Up" I think.

> i'm glad i discovered probably the main
> theme of the song, but there's something kind of charming in the
> things iggy and bowie get by me without my notice.

The thing about Iggy is that he's so perverse, especially during that
era, that he could be singing about eating cupcakes with his
grandmother and it would sound just as sick.

"Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters

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Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 21:13:32 -0400
From: "Lauren Elizabeth" <softboygirl@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: the peter murphy thread

Jeff no-fs <munki1972@yahoo.com> says:
> The thing about Iggy is that he's so perverse, especially during that
> era, that he could be singing about eating cupcakes with his
> grandmother and it would sound just as sick.

i think for me that iggy's so perverse it's turned into sort of the
opposite - unless he's pulling out the big guns, it kind of sounds
like he's singing about cupcakes.  at some point, i must have
renormalized iggy's perversion curve.  it's okay, though - he deserves
his own scale.

as ever,
lauren

- -- 
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"People with opinions just go around bothering one another."

                   - The Buddha

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Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 21:20:28 -0400
From: "Lauren Elizabeth" <softboygirl@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will

Jeff no-fs <munki1972@yahoo.com> says:
> Charlie Musselwhite isn't. Nor Stevie Wonder, Johnny Marr,....

i'm not sure if you're kidding.  but that might go both ways.

/* contemplates wider-scale employment of winky-face */

/* contemplates if it's any less wussy to employ winky-face by
describing it as "winky-face" instead of typing ";)"  */

/* looks around for aspirin */

xo

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"People with opinions just go around bothering one another."

                   - The Buddha

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Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 20:29:54 -0500
From: 2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will

On 8/5/07, Dolph Chaney <dolphmusic@rcn.com> wrote:
>
> At 06:13 PM 8/5/2007, Rex wrote:
>
> >Eddie's mention of the Yep Roc reissues has started me off on
> >compiling a mental wish-list of Rhino Errata to be corrected.  For one
> >thing, get the bonus tracks out of the middle of albums like "Eye".
>
> This comes up from time to time, and I really do seem to be the only
> person
> in the world who prefers bonus tracks to be in the middle rather than at
> the end.  This recreates the vinyl or cassette experience better.  The CD
> ends with the album's intended last track.  If the bonus tracks need to be
> avoided, the listener gets up and skips them, just as if turning over the
> analog version to the next side.



I think the 2-disc solution is by far the best. I don't care much about
"recreating the vinyl or cassette experience" - I don't want to have to
(pretend to) get up in the middle of an album and turn it over. I don't mind
if, on an album originally sequenced for LP, the artist decides that, say, a
ten-second gap in between what was originally side one and side two exists -
but otherwise, no.

And you know, we're all showing our age by assuming that people generally
conceive of albums in two parts any more - it's pretty much been CD since,
oh, 1990 at least. That's nearly two decades of no such thing as one side or
the other.

I definitely think the last track should be the last track - although as a
compromise, the thing Ryko did with the Costello reissues - of putting
a30-second silence before the bonus tracks - works reasonably well, as
palate cleanser and announcement to the listener that the album proper is
done and what follows is extra.


- -- 

...Jeff Norman

The Architectural Dance Society
http://spanghew.blogspot.com

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Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 20:35:17 -0500
From: 2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will

On 8/5/07, Lauren Elizabeth <softboygirl@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Jeff no-fs <munki1972@yahoo.com> says:
> > Charlie Musselwhite isn't. Nor Stevie Wonder, Johnny Marr,....
>
> i'm not sure if you're kidding.  but that might go both ways.



I'm generally in the anti-harmonica camp (particularly if played by bozo
fratboys who think they're playing the blues...), but for some reason
Dylan's wheezing doesn't bother me - probably because I can't imagine Dylan
songs without the wheezing harmonica (other than the ones that don't have
it, of course).

Although an album of Dylan covers done with voice, acoustic guitar or piano,
and bagpipes subbing for and playing transcribed versions of the harmonica
solos would be interesting. At least in Scotland.

Generally, harmonica is an annoying instrument - but then, I'm on record as
finding 95% of blues annoying and boring as hell. Basically, once blues got
formalized into the same three chords and the same 12-bar structure, there
seems no point to me in doing it over again. You could take bits from any
ten random electric-blues-style records, stitch them together into the same
key, and no one would be the wiser. I like Delta blues alright...and you'll
notice that stuff is nowhere near so rigid about structure.

- -- 

...Jeff Norman

The Architectural Dance Society
http://spanghew.blogspot.com

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Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 21:31:34 -0400
From: "Lauren Elizabeth" <softboygirl@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will

Stewart <scruss@gmail.com> says:
> I could live without Dylan-style wailing (and yes, sometimes I'd prefer
> if Robyn didn't play harp), but a world without Sonny Terry?
> Unthinkable. (There's a tiny bit of Sonny in this movie:
> <http://www.archive.org/details/to_hear_your_banjo_play>; it's not
> great, but it's the best I could find.)
>
> You'd also have to forgo the sunny chromatic stylings of Toots
> Thielemans. Without him, you're not going to Sesame Street any time soon.

rumour has it that my dislike of the harmonica is tied to my rumoured
dislike of the blues.  this is ty's assessment.  i know that in the
"rolling stones vs. beatles" thing, the answer in my case requires <
zero amount of personal reflection.

of course both ty and i studied math so there's nothing we love more
than to make generalizations - given the right number of points, of
course (the right number of points being two.)  well, it should go
without saying, this is except when we're talking about math in which
case we need a formal proof.

sort of related is that i really got a kick out of jeff 2fs point
about oprah being on the cover of every copy of "O" magazine.  because
i think he was telling the truth.  i mean, if i saw two issues with
oprah on the cover, that would be all i needed.  but jeff actually
seemed to wait until it was fairly likely that he was making an
accurate statement.  which is a really weird thing not the accurate
statement part, but the putting one's picture on every issue of one's
magazine.)

as ever
lauren

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"People with opinions just go around bothering one another."

                   - The Buddha

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Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 21:40:26 -0400
From: "Stewart C. Russell" <scruss@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: 1-800-FEG-TECH

Lauren Elizabeth wrote:
> 
> also if you know the answer to this question, maybe you know the
> answer to whether it's bad to leave a cd in pause mode for a long
> time?

Not for the disc, but it probably means the life of your CD/DVD player's 
drive motor will be shortened a tiny bit. The rotational speed in a 
player is pretty well below that required to deform a disc (unless it's 
already cracked).

  Stewart

(perhaps the only feg with a dulcimer, but I'm okay with that.)

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Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 21:42:33 -0400
From: "Stewart C. Russell" <scruss@gmail.com>
Subject: reap

Lee Hazlewood

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Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 21:36:02 -0400
From: "Lauren Elizabeth" <softboygirl@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: My name is "Eb", and when I figure out who rearranged my Steve Austin DVDs, there *will* be H-ll to pay...oh yes, there will

2fs <jeffreyw2fs.j@gmail.com> says:
> And you know, we're all showing our age by assuming that people generally
> conceive of albums in two parts any more - it's pretty much been CD since,
> oh, 1990 at least. That's nearly two decades of no such thing as one side or
> the other.

oh, those little weasels* are just showing their youth.

plus don't the cool kids buy vinyl?  (although i suppose that doesn't
mean they listen to it.)

okay who can tell me how that last sentence should be punctuated?  i
don't like a parenthetical statement as its own sentence.  but if i
made it one sentence, i wouldn't know where to put the "?".

/* am i out of aspirin again? */

as ever,
lauren

i.e. whippersnappers

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"People with opinions just go around bothering one another."

                   - The Buddha

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