From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #277 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Monday, July 30 2007 Volume 16 : Number 277 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Trying to Cope [Tom Clark ] Re: the sound of thud [Tom Clark ] Re: Cthulhu Origami [Tom Clark ] Re: the sound of thud [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: the sound of thud [craigie* ] The Parish of The Clerk's Well [joe cushley ] REAP ["Marc Alberts" ] REAP Ingmar Bergman [michaeljbachman@comcast.net] reap (US TV edition) [2fs ] RE: Wetness ["Bachman, Michael" ] Reap (UK TV edition) ["Stewart Russell" ] reap ["Pete Hitcham" ] Re: Wetness ["Mark P" ] Re: the sound of thud [Christopher Gross ] RE: Wetness ["Bachman, Michael" ] REAP!!!: William Shatner's purity ["Stacked Crooked" ] Re: Wetness ["Mark P" ] Re: the sound of thud [kevin ] Re: Bury This One, Too. [djini@voicenet.com] Re: reap (US TV edition) [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Bury This One, Too. [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Okay, that was fun ["Stacked Crooked" ] Reap #5 [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: REAP!!!: William Shatner's purity [Christopher Gross ] a thread for eddie (was Re: the sound of thud) ["Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Trying to Cope On Jul 29, 2007, at 9:06 PM, Tom Clark wrote: > On Jul 29, 2007, at 1:17 PM, BLATZMAN@aol.com wrote: > >> >> Julian has written some of my very favorite songs... > > Ditto. I have pretty much everything from Fried through > Interpreter and there are some ultimate gems in that catalog. > "Since I Lost My Head", "Fa Fa Fa Fine", "Bill Drummond Said", > "Spacehopper", etc... > > Never really cared for the keyboard-centric Teardrop stuff, but > Brain Donor is fun. Oh yeah, a friend of mine was once smoking a joint at a Cope show and Julian walked to the side of the stage and asked for a hit. So they've exchanged DNA, FWIW. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:22:53 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: the sound of thud On Jul 29, 2007, at 6:55 PM, 2fs wrote: > > I don't have a problem with lyrics that don't make any sense. I > mean, we've > got prose for that. The problem I have is when the sense lyrics > isn't making > doesn't hang together, or evoke, in some way. This is the beauty of Robyn's lyrics. At first listen they have kind of a humorous non-sequiturism to them. But upon repeated listening (going on 24 years here), they continue to evoke new imagery. Use the 'peeling away at the onion' metaphor if you will. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:34:54 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Cthulhu Origami On Jul 29, 2007, at 12:54 PM, Steve Talkowski wrote: > > After my little renovation project yesterday, laptop real estate is > currently at an extreme minimum, mainly because all the power > outlets in the living room are inactive so I'm sitting at the > kitchen counter plugged in there: > > http://web.mac.com/stevetalkowski/iWeb/Home_Renovation/ > Wall_Removal.html Wow - seems like quite a lot of work and expense for that extra access. But I totally understand! > > Hey Tom Clark, heard all ya'll Apple employees started receiving > your iPhones last week. How are you enjoying it thus far? Well, beyond the nightmare that is AT&T, it's completely awesome (no bias, of course). The only problem is that the on-campus store was lacking in accessories all week. Luckily they made up for it by stocking up for the company-wide beer bash on Friday, where they sold out of just about everything. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:04:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: the sound of thud Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > p.s. although i generally know the lyrics of most of my favourite > albums, joy division's an exception and i've had a suspicion that i > might be disappointed if i tried to find out what they are. For the most part, no you won't be. "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:21:12 +0100 From: craigie* Subject: Re: the sound of thud On 30/07/07, Rex wrote: > > On 7/29/07, 2fs wrote: > > but when you start to decode some bad Kilbey > punnery, you get the woeful likes of "Terra Nova Caine". to be fair, though, that particular song was the result of Kilbey's (at that time) new smack habit (now thankfully over). and it's quite a pleasant song in and of itself... certainly no worse than Unguarded Moment... c* - -- > first things first, but not necessarily in that order... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:41:51 +0100 (BST) From: joe cushley Subject: The Parish of The Clerk's Well I live in the parish of Clerkenwell (very northern bit and just becoming hip and trendy... slightly) Steve mentions local restaurants. Here's one that'll interest a few of you. I went there a couple of weeks back and it was bloody great. All the food is sourced from within the M25 London Orbital road. I had fish from The Thames! www.konstam.co.uk >I see, Clerkenwell is trendy and hip without being embarrassingly so, >and has some of the best restaurants in London. Joe Cushley Hack and luvvie. I present an alt.blues programme, Balling The Jack on Resonance FM, 104.4 FM in London, via www.resonancefm.com everywhere else, every Tues at 3.30pm; and DJ at venues and festivals for very reasonable rates. Go to www.seasicksteve.com or www.bronzerat.co.uk to get info on the world's greatest living blues geezer, and his splendid new album  Dog House Music. Please get in touch if you are interested in booking Steve in the UK, or want any further information. ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 04:01:17 -0700 From: "Marc Alberts" Subject: REAP Ingmar Bergman, 89. No mention of any games of chess involved. http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Movies/07/30/bergman.obit.ap/index.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:06:58 +0000 From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: REAP Ingmar Bergman http://www.comcast.net/entertainment/index.jsp?cat=ENTERTAINMENT&fn=/2007/07/30/726891.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 08:01:24 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: reap (US TV edition) Tom Snyder, 71 - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:20:32 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Wetness >> I thought I was the only one. And I generally like rambly experimental stuff... it's just that Cope's pop stuff was so very good, and I can get my krautrocky kicks elsewhere. I thought everyone rated that trilogy (?) that started with "Peggy Suicide" as the top of the heap, but I still really favor the Teardrop stuff and its immediate aftermath, goofball synths and all. >> >> -Rex >> >> >> Mark P came back with: >Nah and yeah, Autogeddon and Jehovakill ...20 Mothers ... I dunno, y'know. Mebbe those who so highly laud that stuff are come-latelys and never delved into the earlier canon ...? Neither here nor there, not a bad thing, per se. Not that it means anything either but I too was in on the ground floor. Like you say, Krautrock, kosmische musik, whatever ...for me ...is Neu!(their exclamation mark ..not mine...!), Amon D, Cluster, and, and, and ... whomever else he's into and/or attempting to ape at the mome. He chooses to bear that cross, fine by me but sooner or later methinks he's gonna get back to four to the floor rockin'. As yrself, I'll reckon, Teardrop stuff still gets a go or so every now and then around this casa. Timeless and classic! Personally, I just absolutely LOVED the early solo Cope. Brain Donor is *okay* too, though ...So ...I dunno ...I'm confused now! Now that I have all the early solo Cope which I love, I'm not sure if I'll explore the mid period of Autogeddon and Jehovakill ...20 Mothers. Maybe 20 Mothers, which is probably the best of those three? Michael B. NP Son Volt - The Search ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:31:42 -0400 From: "Stewart Russell" Subject: Reap (UK TV edition) Mike "T'rific" Reid - -- http://scruss.com/blog/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:41:27 +0100 From: "Pete Hitcham" Subject: reap Mike Reid, 67 british comedian and actor If the reader of this email is not the intended recipient(s), please be advised that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this information is strictly prohibited. Johnson Matthey PLC has its main place of business at 40-42 Hatton Garden, London (020 7269 8400). 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Please note that your communication may be monitored in accordance with Johnson Matthey internal policy documentation. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:45:47 -0400 From: "Mark P" Subject: Re: Wetness > Now that I have all the early solo Cope which I love, I'm not sure if > I'll explore the mid period of Autogeddon and Jehovakill ...20 Mothers. > Maybe 20 Mothers, which is probably the best of those three? > > Michael B. > > NP Son Volt - The Search > My opinion, Michael ...I'd go w/20 Mothers. I recall being able to listen to that more as a whole album than skipping around as with the others. Peggy Suicide too. That's more his cuspid recording but it was hard for me to commit to his astrally aware transformation around that time. Still some poppy sensibilities goin' ahn there tho. I just don't go for the noisy for noisy sake/floaty/ambient/krauty stuff. That's just me. Hey, if you like the early stuff, check out Christ Versus Warhol. Alternative almost demo like versions of songs from the WSYM/Fried era. It's available o'er the Head Heritage merchandiser section and prolly some of yr fave web based used mongers. http://www.headheritage.co.uk/merchandiser/julian_cope_music/ Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:21:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: the sound of thud On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > p.p.s. so when one might fall for buffy would be in the space between > "surprise" and "innocence"? so it would seem. Basically, yeah. Not that all subsequent episodes are like Surprise and Innocence, or as good as them. But a lasting addiction commonly begins around that point. Shall I start the "One of us!" chant now? - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:37:38 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Wetness - -----Original Message----- From: Mark P [mailto:youamwho@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 10:46 AM To: Bachman, Michael Cc: Rex; fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Re: Wetness >> >> Now that I have all the early solo Cope which I love, I'm not sure if >> I'll explore the mid period of Autogeddon and Jehovakill ...20 Mothers. >>Maybe 20 Mothers, which is probably the best of those three? >> >> Michael B. >> >> NP Son Volt - The Search > Mark P. >My opinion, Michael ...I'd go w/20 Mothers. I recall being able to listen to that more as a whole album >than skipping around as with the others. Peggy Suicide too. That's more his cuspid recording but it was hard for me to commit to his astrally aware transformation around that time. Still some poppy sensibilities goin' ahn there tho. I just don't go for the noisy for noisy sake/floaty/ambient/krauty stuff. That's just me. Peggy I used to listen to quiet a bit in the early 90's. It sure sounded different from the only other solo Cope album I had at the time, My Nation Underground, but I liked it a lot anyway. Now I prefer the early ones I recently bought like WSYM, Fried and Saint Julian to PS. The Teardrop Explodes albums I bought around 1982-83, about the same time I bought my first Echo album. The assistant manager at the record store that I used to buy all my records from refered to the Teardrop and Echo albums them as neo-psychedelic albums. The only reason I can think of why I didn't get Underwater Moonlight back then was probably because the store didn't carry it! I would be two years down the road before I bought Fegmania! Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 08:44:01 -0700 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: REAP!!!: William Shatner's purity dang, that's cool! of course, i made *me* so happy too... i'm beginning to think of it as a companion-album, of sorts, to *Return Of The Frog Queen* -- only much, much better that *Return Of The Frog Queen* (which, in point of fact, i like quite a lot). be warned that it's receiving many negative reviews (quite a few positive as well, however). but after three spins, i'm still loving it. more opinions: Against Me! - *New Wave* ~ this'll surely end up in my top-ten for '07. Arthur And Yu - *In-Camera* ~ reminds me of belle & sebastian (whom i can take or leave). Andrew Bird - *Armchair Apocrypha* ~ as with the the previous album, i like it fine but can't get too excited about it. Boris vs. Doomriders - *Long Hair And Tights* ~ if you don't love boris, then i don't love you. Brandi Carlile - *The Story* ~ a definite improvement over the first record, though still doesn't live up to the hype. saw her open for robyn a few years back. Mooney Suzuki - *Have Mercy* ~ half-brilliant, half-so-so. Tiny Vipers - *Hands Across The Void* ~ why is everybody so ga-ga over this? up next: the new interpol, and some two-disc dave matthews compilation thingy which my brother gave me for my b-day. (i had casually mentioned that i'd never heard a dave matthews song; which he took to mean that i *wanted* to hear a dave matthews song. well, now i guess i shall.) i know -- i was just horsing around a little bit. hell, while i love the first three records, i can't find anything of merit in anything that came after. heh heh. when the last line of the first digest on a monday morning is a *Buffy* question, it's pretty well assured that there'll be at least nineteen more digests before sundown. (and don't get me wrong: much as i hate the show itself, i love all the discussion of it on this board -- read it religiously, as a matter of fact.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:50:28 -0400 From: "Mark P" Subject: Re: Wetness > Peggy I used to listen to quiet a bit in the early 90's. It sure sounded > different from the only other solo Cope album I had at the time, My > Nation Underground, but I liked it a lot anyway. Now I prefer the early > ones I recently bought like WSYM, Fried and Saint Julian to PS. The > Teardrop Explodes albums I bought around 1982-83, about the same time I > bought my first Echo album. The assistant manager at the record store > that I used to buy all my records from refered to the Teardrop and Echo > albums them as neo-psychedelic albums. The only reason I can think of > why I didn't get Underwater Moonlight back then was probably because the > store didn't carry it! I would be two years down the road before I > bought Fegmania! > > Michael B. > > > I bought the first Bunnies album the same day I bought the second B-52s album ...what was that, the red one ...Wild Planet? I used to hit the shop (Record Stop in Lake Ronkonkoma here on Long Island) on the way to my night job at a food distributor warehouse. Sit in the parking lot when I got there dreading the next ten hours. Crack the wrap on the albums or de-sleeve the imports from the plastic sleeve and read everything, wondering what I had in store when I got home in the morning. Heh, some stuff I bought on cassette too, just to listen to it spot on. m ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:02:05 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: the sound of thud >This is the beauty of Robyn's lyrics. At first listen they have kind >of a humorous non-sequiturism to them. But upon repeated listening >(going on 24 years here), they continue to evoke new imagery. Use >the 'peeling away at the onion' metaphor if you will. As a writer he's such an archetypal sodden, broken-hearted-but-carrying-on-with-a-smile British type as to be irresistible. Conversely you might call it Philip Larkin with an overlay of Edward Lear, but as the years have passed more of the Lear has worn away. This brutal Monday AM it's very much just me & David Crosby & a bloke with no hand / KS np: Switched-On Bach ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 12:02:29 -0400 (EDT) From: djini@voicenet.com Subject: Re: Bury This One, Too. From: Sebastian Hagedorn > Subject: Re: Bury This One, Too. (was Re: Robyn Hitchcock, uh, iPod) > > - -- Rex is rumored to have mumbled on 24. Juli > 2007 17:21:21 -0700 regarding Re: Bury This One, Too. (was Re: Robyn > Hitchcock, uh, iPod): > >> On 7/24/07, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: >>> >>> I certainly hope it works out that way. We're doing the Riddick triple >>> feature tomorrow night ... ;-) I've seen Pitch Black and that was OK, but >>> I >>> really don't know about Chronicles Of Riddick. What really boggles my >>> mind is that a colleague of mine has all of them on DVD! >> >> Oh, I just saw that at Target-- the third leg of the "trilogy" looks to be >> about 45 minutes of footage shot when they thought it was going to be a >> real trilogy. So that didn't exactly work out. > > What I was refering to is something else. There is a 30-minute cartoon > movie by that guy who also did Animatrix that fits *between* Pitch Black > and Chronicles. Actually we stopped after the cartoon and will have to > finish some other time. I really like the first half of Pitch Black, but as > often is the case with action films, the actual action isn't very > interesting. I LOVED Pitch Black, (though I wonder what the aliens lived on in the absence of tasty humans) and HATED Chronicles. Didn't like the cartoon much either. I was arguing with someone about this last night, in fact, who compared the two to Alien/Aliens, where Alien is a horror movie and Aliens is an action movie, and you can appreciate them for completely different reasons. My problem with Chronicles is that it feels like it forced this huge unwieldy structure on top of what had been a zippy little ride, and the whole thing came crashing down. Plus it didn't make any sense. And: Judi Dench? Thandie Newton? What the hell were they doing in that mess? As for Vin Diesel, the repeated "He is not a diva" statements from his PR machine evoke Russell Crowe in his heyday. I could go on (why the hell did they recast Jack?) but you get the picture. Jeanne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:16:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: reap (US TV edition) 2fs wrote: > Tom Snyder, 71 and Ingmar Bergman, and the british guy I'd never heard of... We don't normally get all three so quickly. Flies on the windscreen.... NP: erm, guess.... "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:20:18 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Bury This One, Too. - -- djini@voicenet.com is rumored to have mumbled on 29. Juli 2007 12:02:29 - -0400 regarding Re: Bury This One, Too. : > I LOVED Pitch Black, (though I wonder what the aliens lived on in the > absence of tasty humans) Right :-) Also: why do they suddenly start fighting each other? > and HATED Chronicles. That seems to be the majority opinion. FWIW, the colleague of mine who's got them on DVDs thinks Chronicles is by far better. I haven't yet seen it, so ... > Didn't like the cartoon > much either. Well, it was a cartoon. I wasn't expecting much. I've seen Animatrix once and I think I only liked one of the episodes. > I was arguing with someone about this last night, in fact, > who compared the two to Alien/Aliens, where Alien is a horror movie and > Aliens is an action movie, and you can appreciate them for completely > different reasons. Exactly. I saw Aliens first and it scared me to death (I had just turned 18, I think, and the movie was rated 18 in Germany). I guess Alien is the better movie, but I've got a soft spot for Aliens as well. > My problem with Chronicles is that it feels like it > forced this huge unwieldy structure on top of what had been a zippy > little ride, and the whole thing came crashing down. Plus it didn't make > any sense. And: Judi Dench? Thandie Newton? What the hell were they doing > in that mess? As for Vin Diesel, the repeated "He is not a diva" > statements from his PR machine evoke Russell Crowe in his heyday. I could > go on (why the hell did they recast Jack?) but you get the picture. I'll let you know what I think. I'm sure you'll be waiting with bated breath .... - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:24:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Reap #4 Michel Serrault http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6922473.stm "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:49:33 -0700 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: Okay, that was fun got through about half of the first dave matthews CD before giving up on it. if anybody wants it, i'm going to leave it on top of the fifth-avenue book-return kiosk outside the downtown library. new interpol is decent enough, but i much prefer the editors disc. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:37:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Reap #5 Bill Walsh http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/07/30/BAG57LR8OK21.DTL "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:04:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: REAP!!!: William Shatner's purity On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Stacked Crooked wrote: > "surprise" and "innocence"? so it would seem.> > > heh heh. when the last line of the first digest on a monday morning is a > *Buffy* question, it's pretty well assured that there'll be at least > nineteen more digests before sundown. (and don't get me wrong: much as i > hate the show itself, i love all the discussion of it on this board -- read > it religiously, as a matter of fact.) Aw, you just like anything that produces more digests. When are you going to give in and switch your subscription to individual-email format? Not that anyone seems eager for a long Buffy discussion today. I guess the flood of reaps has everyone feeling down. - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:34:23 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: a thread for eddie (was Re: the sound of thud) Christopher Gross says: > On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > > p.p.s. so when one might fall for buffy would be in the space between > > "surprise" and "innocence"? so it would seem. > > Basically, yeah. Not that all subsequent episodes are like Surprise and > Innocence, or as good as them. But a lasting addiction commonly begins > around that point. Shall I start the "One of us!" chant now? clearly eddie wants buffy conversation, so i'll do my part. some random buffy-related thoughts: 1. i was telling my girlfriend that i was watching buffy and she mentioned that the guy who plays angel is the son of dave roberts. problem. for those of you not in the tri-state area, dave roberts has been "action news" weatherman for ...ever. there's nothing particular wrong with him, especially as far as weatherman go, but, still, he's a _weatherman_ : he walks along city line avenue with his big stupid umbrella, warning of us of coming rain horrors. http://www.broadcastpioneers.com/robertsbio.html 2. so far, i don't really like the character of buffy, so that's been a problem. she reminds me of why i don't much like to hang out with women. she's too girly i guess. maybe that's part of the point. i tend to go for the girls more like willow, but there's no darkness in willow, so i'm not crazy for her character either. xander (sp?) i like although he's kind of annoying. giles i like as well. angel just got interesting, but he's...dave robert's son. i like the two vampires, spike and especially dru - they are much better than the cartoon vampires from season 1. i guess the point of this is that i find myself getting interested in the show because it suddenly got all "power of myth", but i'm concerned about not caring for buffy or being much drawn to the other characters so far. 3. the thing that has kept me watching is the very interesting question of how a show such as the one i'm watching will turn into the show that you fegs talk about. i'm really curious about how this gets pulled off. not that it's a definite, but i respect feg tastes and so even if i don't end up loving it, i think i'll at least understand why you folks do. but it's entirely possible that i'll end up loving it. we'll see. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 11:16:29 -0400 (EDT) From: djini@voicenet.com Subject: Re: Interconnected Kitty Steve Schiavo wrote: > > Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 19:02:56 -0500 > From: Steve Schiavo > Subject: Interconnected Kitty > > http://tinyurl.com/2ykzgy Grrr. Great story, terribly delivered. The headline makes it sound like the cat is responsible for the deaths! And how often does one get such a perfect opportunity to make use of the word "psychopomp"? Colin Nickerson, you hack. However: >'He added: "Oscar brought a special serenity to the room. What's more peaceful than a > purring cat? What sound more beautiful to fill one's ears when leaving this life?" ' "Let's exchange insurance information"? Jeanne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 18:31:08 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: a thread for eddie (was Re: the sound of thud) On 7/30/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > some random buffy-related thoughts: > > 1. i was telling my girlfriend that i was watching buffy and she > mentioned that the guy who plays angel is the son of dave roberts. > problem. for those of you not in the tri-state area, dave roberts has > been "action news" weatherman for ...ever. there's nothing particular > wrong with him, especially as far as weatherman go, but, still, he's a > _weatherman_ : he walks along city line avenue with his big stupid > umbrella, warning of us of coming rain horrors. > > http://www.broadcastpioneers.com/robertsbio.html Well, that makes sense: Boreanaz walks along the streets of LA, warning us of coming apocalyptic horrors. At least in _Angel_: difference is, he's right more often than his father. 2. so far, i don't really like the character of buffy, so that's been > a problem. she reminds me of why i don't much like to hang out with > women. she's too girly i guess. maybe that's part of the point. It is, I think - although I'm not sure what you mean by "girly"... Keep watching...things change... > i > tend to go for the girls more like willow, but there's no darkness in > willow Keep watching (!!!!) , so i'm not crazy for her character either. xander (sp?) i > like although he's kind of annoying. giles i like as well. angel > just got interesting, but he's...dave robert's son. i like the two > vampires, spike and especially dru - they are much better than the > cartoon vampires from season 1. Spike gets even more interesting as time goes on... i guess the point of this is that i find myself getting interested in > the show because it suddenly got all "power of myth", but i'm > concerned about not caring for buffy or being much drawn to the other > characters so far. It'll happen. Might help if you worry less about "liking" the characters and more about, I dunno, seeing how they work? Every character on the show has moments of downright unlikeability. You know, kinda like people... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #277 ********************************