From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #274 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, July 27 2007 Volume 16 : Number 274 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #271 [djini@voicenet.com] Mini-Reviews ["Stacked Crooked" ] Interesting door [Rex ] Re: Der Avengers [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: Mini-Reviews [Rex ] Re: Mini-Reviews [Eleanore Adams ] Re: Mini-Reviews [Rex ] Re: Mini-Reviews [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Mini-Reviews [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Mini-Reviews ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Mini-Reviews ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Mini-Reviews [michaeljbachman@comcast.net] Re: Wetness [hssmrg@bath.ac.uk] RE: Wetness ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #271 ["Sumiko Keay" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #271 [Christopher Gross ] newz u can use, part 117 ["Michael Wells" ] Re: newz u can use, part 118 [Carrie Galbraith ] Re: newz u can use, part 117 [kevin ] math and music, sitting in a tree... ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: newz u can use, part 118 [Tom Clark ] July 3rd? ["m swedene" ] Interconnected Kitty [Steve Schiavo ] Re: Mini-Reviews [Rex ] Re: Wetness [Rex ] Re: newz u can use, part 118 [2fs ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:56:08 -0400 (EDT) From: djini@voicenet.com Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #271 Lauren wrote: > p.s. i might as well take this chance to come out of the closet as a > non-harry potter person. i haven't read any of the books; i recently > saw the first movie on dvd but, alas, it wasn't my cup of tea. not > enough brooding. Get started on Buffy, then, girl! The sooner you've watched it, the sooner you can move on to Angel, which features the broodiest dude ever to prop up a wall! I'm meh on the HP, for all the usual reasons. But I just burned through the first three books in the Hungry City Chronicles by Philip Reeve - holy crap they're good. I picked up the first one because the good folks over at Unshelved wrote it up: http://www.unshelved.com/archive.aspx?strip=20070617 Jeanne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:53:35 -0700 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: Mini-Reviews Smashing Pumpkins, *Zeitgeist* ~ perhaps i'll be banished from fegslist for stating that i quite like this? haven't listened to the lyrics yet, however... The Editors, *An End Has A Start* ~ don't exactly know why i really love this; but, i *really* love this. as in, despite having liked the first record very much, i'm shocked at how good this shit is. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:58:07 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Interesting door Seems like sometime prior to the Soft Boys reunion, the "interesting dwarf" in "Chinese Bones" turned into an interesting door which Robyn opens slowly. It's not just a variable ad-lib... I think that he's sung it that way consistently for quite some time now. So, like, why? Did he come to feel that the dwarf bit (or beat) was insulting to the little people among his fan base, or... I dunno, there must be a more entertaining theory than that, right? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:05:24 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: Der Avengers On 7/25/07, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > I enjoyed very much. I *know* that everybody and their sister hates it > with a vengeance, and maybe it's only because I wasn't really familiar > with > the series (even though it had the rather sweet title "Mit Schirm, Charm > und Melone" in German, which translates to "With Umbrella, Charm and > Melon", I suwspect it was translated from English to German via French, where the title of the series was something like "Leather boots asnd bowler hat" - and the French for bowler hat is "chapeau melon". James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 18:06:12 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Mini-Reviews On 7/26/07, Stacked Crooked wrote: > > Smashing Pumpkins, *Zeitgeist* > ~ perhaps i'll be banished from fegslist for stating that i quite like > this? Nah, only a few of us are avowed haters. I hate with gusto, for the sake of those who hate but can't admit it. haven't listened to the lyrics yet, however... I imagine that's the key. The vocals would be harder to ignore. The Editors, *An End Has A Start* > ~ don't exactly know why i really love this; but, i *really* love this. > as in, despite having liked the first record very much, i'm shocked at how > good this shit is. Can we now do a complete scorecard on which of the postpostpunk turned out to be good? It's Interpol and Bloc Party by a decent stretch, with everyone having realized that She Wants Revenge was the Limp Bizkit of the scene and started pretending that it never happened, right? In a mini-review of my own, at some point recently I heard the new Modest Mouse record and decided, finally, that that guy's vocal schtick is just a bit too... I dunno, high-strung for me? Still haven't listend to then New New Pornos yet. Kinda waiting to see what other layers the onion reveals to Eddie. The wait is becoming deliciously epic... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:51:20 -0700 From: Eleanore Adams Subject: Re: Mini-Reviews As to Modest Mouse, the word is "constipated". that vocal is always like he is about to take a crap..... ea On Jul 26, 2007, at 6:06 PM, Rex wrote: > On 7/26/07, Stacked Crooked wrote: >> >> Smashing Pumpkins, *Zeitgeist* >> ~ perhaps i'll be banished from fegslist for stating that i quite >> like >> this? > > > Nah, only a few of us are avowed haters. I hate with gusto, for > the sake of > those who hate but can't admit it. > > haven't listened to the lyrics yet, however... > > > I imagine that's the key. The vocals would be harder to ignore. > > The Editors, *An End Has A Start* >> ~ don't exactly know why i really love this; but, i *really* love >> this. >> as in, despite having liked the first record very much, i'm >> shocked at how >> good this shit is. > > > Can we now do a complete scorecard on which of the postpostpunk > turned out > to be good? It's Interpol and Bloc Party by a decent stretch, with > everyone > having realized that She Wants Revenge was the Limp Bizkit of the > scene and > started pretending that it never happened, right? > > In a mini-review of my own, at some point recently I heard the new > Modest > Mouse record and decided, finally, that that guy's vocal schtick is > just a > bit too... I dunno, high-strung for me? > > Still haven't listend to then New New Pornos yet. Kinda waiting to > see what > other layers the onion reveals to Eddie. The wait is becoming > deliciously > epic... > > -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 21:24:04 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Mini-Reviews On 7/26/07, Eleanore Adams wrote: > > As to Modest Mouse, the word is "constipated". that vocal is always > like he is about to take a crap..... Yeah, kinda. The thing that particularly bugged about this particular album was that every song had its own "voice", like a character piece... it was like each style was chosen for a certain effect, and yet each different one of them was stridently irritating in its own unique way. It was like all the most frantic moments of Andy Partridge with none of the... other stuff. I'd casually heard several of their other records and don't remember them being so monolithically shrill. I guess Johnny Marr is in that band, too, huh? Guy that used to play with that other irritating singer? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:03:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Mini-Reviews Rex wrote: > I guess Johnny Marr is in [Modest Mouse], too, huh? Guy that used > to play with that other irritating singer? When did Johnny Marr play with Billy Corgan? "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 09:34:52 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Mini-Reviews - -- Rex is rumored to have mumbled on 26. Juli 2007 18:06:12 -0700 regarding Re: Mini-Reviews: > Can we now do a complete scorecard on which of the postpostpunk turned out > to be good? It's Interpol and Bloc Party by a decent stretch, with > everyone having realized that She Wants Revenge was the Limp Bizkit of > the scene and started pretending that it never happened, right? I don't know She Wants Revenge. I loved the first Bloc Party, but the second one sucks. I like the new Interpol, but I'm not yet sure how much I like it compared to the first two. I think I really like the new Maximo Park, but I've listened to it only once so far. But I think in general there is just much more good music around currently than there was maybe 10 years ago. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 05:09:16 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Mini-Reviews Stacked Crooked says: > Smashing Pumpkins, *Zeitgeist* > haven't listened to the lyrics yet, however... this makes me wonder if you have the karaoke version. > The Editors, *An End Has A Start* > ~ don't exactly know why i really love this; but, i *really* love this. > as in, despite having liked the first record very much, i'm shocked at how > good this shit is. editors seemed like such a pale imitation of interpol that i was surprised i liked the first album quite a bit. this recommendation has me interested. as aside, i just last week received the new interpol cd - their letterman performance was posted on dime which is how i noticed they have a new album. i haven't listened to it yet, but liked the letterman song - i think it was called "the heimlich maneuver" (a very interpol song name.) paul banks was wearing a dumb hat (a la badly drawn boy) but the band was otherwise well-dressed. my editors story which hopefully is not a repeat: awhile back, the "penultimate" ex-boyfriend e-mailed me a few editors mp3s, and in a highly unusual typo, told me that he thought i would like "the bad editors" (he meant to type "the band editors.") he and i agreed that we prefer the typo name. i guess the name is still available since he and i have not yet formed (or compelled anyone to form) a band by that name. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 05:11:27 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Mini-Reviews Rex says: > It's Interpol and Bloc Party by a decent stretch, with everyone > having realized that She Wants Revenge was the Limp Bizkit of the scene and > started pretending that it never happened, right? make that everyone minus one. i'm still enthralled by shirley manson being in their video. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 10:24:05 +0000 From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: Re: Mini-Reviews - -------------- Original message -------------- From: Rex > On 7/26/07, Eleanore Adams wrote: > > > > As to Modest Mouse, the word is "constipated". that vocal is always > > like he is about to take a crap..... > > > Yeah, kinda. The thing that particularly bugged about this particular album > was that every song had its own "voice", like a character piece... it was > like each style was chosen for a certain effect, and yet each different one > of them was stridently irritating in its own unique way. It was like all > the most frantic moments of Andy Partridge with none of the... other stuff. > I'd casually heard several of their other records and don't remember them > being so monolithically shrill. Rex wrote: > I guess Johnny Marr is in that band, too, huh? Guy that used to play with > that other irritating singer? I don't think Matt Johnson is an irritating singer! Michael B. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:55:21 +0100 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: Wetness Quoting kevin : > I hope the deity of your choice, if any, is watching over all of you > over across the water. This is a terrible situation, and does > anybody know where we can chip in to help out? > Latest flood positions here: Many thanks, Kevin. I gather that the Mayors of Tewkesbury and Gloucester are collecting donations for flood relief. I will post the address when I find it. - - Mike G. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 09:18:02 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Wetness - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 6:55 AM To: kevin Cc: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Re: Wetness Quoting kevin : >> I hope the deity of your choice, if any, is watching over all of you >> over across the water. This is a terrible situation, and does anybody >> know where we can chip in to help out? >> Latest flood positions here: Mike G. came back with: >Many thanks, Kevin. I gather that the Mayors of Tewkesbury and Gloucester are collecting donations for flood relief. >I will post the address when I find it. Is the ancient English town where Julian Cope lives under water as well? I have been on a JC buying binge the last few months, getting "World Shut Your Mouth", "Fried" and "Saint Julian". Michael B. NP Cranes - Live In Italy ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 09:59:57 -0500 From: "Sumiko Keay" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #271 Speaking of Joss Whedon. . . he has a new online comic that is music related: http://creative.myspace.com/groups/_mh/mdhp/pages/issue01/sshock.html Sumi On 7/24/07, djini@voicenet.com wrote: > Lauren wrote: > > > p.s. i might as well take this chance to come out of the closet as a > > non-harry potter person. i haven't read any of the books; i recently > > saw the first movie on dvd but, alas, it wasn't my cup of tea. not > > enough brooding. > > Get started on Buffy, then, girl! The sooner you've watched it, the sooner you can move > on to Angel, which features the broodiest dude ever to prop up a wall! > > I'm meh on the HP, for all the usual reasons. But I just burned through the first three > books in the Hungry City Chronicles by Philip Reeve - holy crap they're good. I picked > up the first one because the good folks over at Unshelved wrote it up: > http://www.unshelved.com/archive.aspx?strip=20070617 > > Jeanne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:03:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #271 On Fri, 27 Jul 2007, Sumiko Keay wrote: > Speaking of Joss Whedon. . . he has a new online comic that is music related: > > http://creative.myspace.com/groups/_mh/mdhp/pages/issue01/sshock.html Thanks Sumiko! It looks like fun. This is turning out to be a big Whedon comic day, as I also just found out that issue #5 of the Buffy comic came out this week, not Aug. 8 as I had been led to believe.... - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ chrisg [at] gwu.edu On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:09:57 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: newz u can use, part 117 Headline: "Cheney to have surgery to get new pacemaker." I wonder if he'll cede power to Bush during the operation? J. Lo update: From now on, the "Gigli" star told the paper, she plans to do "serious" film roles and music. "If you focus on the money you're not going to get anywhere," she explained. "If money is your motivation you're going to be such an empty shallow person." And finally, from Jessica Simpson: I was always the girl who wore sweat pants and baseball caps to not be intimidating," the "Dukes of Hazzard" star told Harper's Bazaar, "but now I've learned to embrace beauty as part of my career, as part of my inner soul, as part of who I am." Michael "it's jungle out there" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:00:57 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: newz u can use, part 118 - -----Original Message----- >From: Michael Wells >Headline: "Cheney to have surgery to get new pacemaker." I wonder if >he'll cede power to Bush during the operation? > >J. Lo update: From now on, the "Gigli" star told the paper, she plans to >do "serious" film roles and music. "If you focus on the money you're not >going to get anywhere," she explained. "If money is your motivation >you're going to be such an empty shallow person." > >And finally, from Jessica Simpson: I was always the girl who wore sweat >pants and baseball caps to not be intimidating," the "Dukes of Hazzard" >star told Harper's Bazaar, "but now I've learned to embrace beauty as >part of my career, as part of my inner soul, as part of who I am." > >Michael "it's jungle out there" Wells And this just in: Should be interesting... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:36:19 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: newz u can use, part 117 >And finally, from Jessica Simpson: I was always the girl who wore sweat >pants and baseball caps to not be intimidating," the "Dukes of Hazzard" >star told Harper's Bazaar, "but now I've learned to embrace beauty as >part of my career, as part of my inner soul, as part of who I am." Can't...stop...laughing. Causing actual pain. np Raveonettes: Pretty In Black ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 18:49:19 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: math and music, sitting in a tree... http://musicalgorithms.ewu.edu/index.html (post your MIDIs.) this link came via: http://www.research.att.com/~njas/sequences/A000010 i was looking for a table of euler's phi function and found it very cool that on this site, one has the option to list the numbers, graph them , or _listen_ to them. now i can listen to all my favourite integer sequences. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 18:56:45 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Wetness Michael B. says: > I have been on a JC buying binge the last few months, getting "World > Shut Your Mouth", "Fried" and "Saint Julian". julian cope is a real mystery to me. i like quite a bit of his music, but really have no idea what he's talking about (i.e. i don't "get" him.) i probably listen most to "peggy suicide". it's got a really nice groove to it. and "charlotte anne" is one of the loveliest songs i know. people say robyn seems like he did a lot of drugs (i think mostly people that don't know much about him) and they (not necessarily the same people) say that of julian cope but i would say that if it seems like they both did a lot of drugs, it's in two different ways. or perhaps it's that robyn is very earthy and julian is very air-y? julian cope fans, please comment. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 15:54:14 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: newz u can use, part 118 On Jul 27, 2007, at 3:00 PM, Carrie Galbraith wrote: > > And this just in: > > > Should be interesting... Oh I can't wait to see this. I just hope it's real and not a MM publicity stunt. - -tc *cough* *cough* iPhone Discounts*cough* *cough* email me *cough* *cough* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 19:03:14 -0400 From: "m swedene" Subject: July 3rd? Where is Matt's version of this show? anyone? Bueller... Bueller.... Mike "The boy who lived" Swedene ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 19:02:56 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Interconnected Kitty http://tinyurl.com/2ykzgy - - Steve _______________ Interconnectedness among living beings can be accounted for by nonlocal quantum entanglement. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:03:45 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Mini-Reviews On 7/27/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > > my editors story which hopefully is not a repeat: > awhile back, the "penultimate" ex-boyfriend e-mailed me a few editors > mp3s, and in a highly unusual typo, told me that he thought i would > like "the bad editors" (he meant to type "the band editors.") he and > i agreed that we prefer the typo name. META! META! And more META! i guess the name is still > available since he and i have not yet formed (or compelled anyone to > form) a band by that name. I don't do pretend band names any more. - -Rex Broome, guitar and vocals, The Guitar and Vocals (UK) xo > > -- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." > > - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 17:09:21 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Wetness On 7/27/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > > people say robyn seems like he did a lot of drugs (i think mostly > people that don't know much about him) and they (not necessarily the > same people) say that of julian cope but i would say that if it seems > like they both did a lot of drugs, it's in two different ways. or > perhaps it's that robyn is very earthy and julian is very air-y? > julian cope fans, please comment. Julian did a lot of drugs. Still does, probably, and he talks about it lots. Robyn, I don't know... I can't think of a single story about him from any source that alludes to any drug use. Some periods of heavy drinking, and that's it-- anybody else remember anything? Odd for someone often referred to as psychedelic, and clearly influenced by some "druggy" music and musicians, but kind of cool in that way, too. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:27:31 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: newz u can use, part 118 On 7/27/07, Tom Clark wrote: > > On Jul 27, 2007, at 3:00 PM, Carrie Galbraith wrote: > > > > And this just in: > > > > > > Should be interesting... > > Oh I can't wait to see this. I just hope it's real and not a MM > publicity stunt. He really should claim some sort of "executive" exemption. it's always struck me as...shall we say, exceedingly odd - that despite being free citizens of a free country (as Moore points out), our government claims to be able to tell us where we can and cannot travel, outside of the country. I can understand the government claiming a right to not let certain non-citizens *in* - but it makes a joke of freedom to tell citizens where they can't go. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #274 ********************************