From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #260 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, July 10 2007 Volume 16 : Number 260 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: confession thread ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: that big Alarm / FIxx / Psychelic Furs review I promised you [kevin <] Re: that big Alarm / FIxx / Psychelic Furs review I promised you ["Michae] Re: my list of demands ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: that big Alarm / FIxx / Psychelic Furs review I promised you [Rex ] Re: Stew for Stewart? [Rex ] Re: confession thread [kevin ] Re: my list of demands [Steve Schiavo ] Re: Stew for Stewart? [Elizabeth Brion ] bumper stickers [djini@voicenet.com] Re: my list of demands ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Stew for Stewart? ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: bumper stickers [gaseous clay ] RE: bumper stickers ["Bachman, Michael" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 10:03:44 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: confession thread - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of 2fs Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 6:15 PM To: Jeff Dwarf Cc: a sweet little cupcake...baked by the devil! Subject: Re: confession thread On 7/7/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > >Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > >p.s. uh-oh, ["The Boys of Summer"]'s about (shh) baseball, isn't > > >it? maybe i shouldn't have responded...i don't want to > > >contribute to the takeover of feglist. > >> Well, the title alludes to baseball. The other Jeff came back with: >Only glancingly, in that the phrase "boys of summer" was used to refer to ballplayers as nostalgic evocation >generally (as in Roger Kahn's book). The song isn't about baseball at all (no mentions). It's about regrets, aging, changes, etc. My favorite line is (slight paraphrase probably) "I saw a Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac." >And yes: it's probably the only Henley solo song I like as well. Henley nailed it with "The Boys of Summer". Nice video as well. I liked "End Of The Innocence" a lot in the late 80's when it was on the radio and MTV. The Roger Kahn book about the Brooklyn Dodgers was a best seller and is one of the best baseball books around. MJ Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 11:59:28 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: Two Sevens Clash deluxe 30th anniversary edition! http://blogs.chicagoreader.com/post-no-bills/tag/Two%20Sevens%20Clash/ One of my favorite raggae albums of all time just got better! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 09:22:43 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: my list of demands >and this is way old news so i'm assuming we've already discussed it, >but maybe i had that conversation with someone else? >http://www.kilian-nakamura.com/catalog/hizamakura-pillow-p-64.html > >my photography teacher who's from japan helped me nearly understand >that last one in a not-so-sexual context, if i'm to believe him. OK, that's the weirdest thing I've seen so far today... np Miles Davis In Concert @ Philharmonic Hall 1972. Super-badd. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 09:28:03 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: that big Alarm / FIxx / Psychelic Furs review I promised you Thx for the write-up. I was very happy when the Furs resumed activity a few years back and I'm still waiting for the album of new material they've been promising for the last five years (not unlike the new Roxy Music album)... - -----Original Message----- >From: michael wells >Sent: Jul 8, 2007 10:53 AM >To: fegmaniax@smoe.org >Subject: that big Alarm / FIxx / Psychelic Furs review I promised you > >My mate Daryl and I went to the big "Rockin' the Colonies' tour stop last >week, part of a larger ribs and music festival that lasted five days and >also featured, on other nights, Heart, Randy Travis, Los Lonely Boys, and an >odd assortment of smaller groups. We picked the UK-bands night because it >figured to be much less crowded (which it was) and we both at one time had >an affinity for the Furs. > > > >Going into the evening The Alarm was actually my biggest draw. I can admit >to being a slavish fan around the time of ELECTRIC FOLKLORE, and I went >hoping to hear classics like 'Rain in the Summertime,' 'Spirit of 76" and >'Rescue Me" which were of course played, which was great.but it ended up >seeming to me to be a "Mike Peters plays songs of The Alarm" rather than a >proper show. Of course he had been the driving force but he said "me" rather >than "us" a bit too much, and of course there was no Dave Sharp, so there >ended up being a little of that >over-the-hill-rocker-touring-on-the-hits-vibe going by the end. Plus he had >punked out his hair and it was still daylight, but otherwise a very strong >opening set and one that benefited from the excellent sound setup the Furs >had going. > > > >The Fixx sucked. They made The Cars look active on stage. We took the >opportunity to get some ribs and hit the second stage where Dark Star >Orchestra was noodling away which was infinitely more interesting. We made >sure to be back in a timely manner, because: > > > >The Furs absolutely *killed* it live. This wasn't a few older guys playing >out the string - they came out just after dark and fucking nailed it to the >wall. Aside from the Butler brothers there was 'classic lineup' John Ashton >on guitar and a few hired hands I later found out to be Amanda Kramer >(ex-World Party on keys), Frank Ferrer (drums) and an excellent Mars >Williams (sax). Whoever was running their board was top-notch - this was >sound to rival the best rock shows I have ever heard, let alone one produced >on a relatively small outdoor stage in a noisy festival atmosphere. Rich and >full, each of the instruments crystal clear (except the keys, which I >thought was intentional) and quite loud without being overbearing. > > > >Richard was resplendent in tight-fitting sweater and trousers, earrings and >fey moves in full flower. His voice sounded exceptional, as he was clearly >getting some electronic help - sounded like harmonizer and reverb. But far >from being annoying, it made him sound fantastic.like a fleet of Richard >Butlers! Again, I had never seen them so I had no idea how he would be as a >front man, but he was all that - strutting, leaning, posing, pointing at the >crowd, sitting with legs crossed, checking his fabulous hair in the bass >drum cover, etc. Far from the over-earnest Mike Peters or the too-cool-for >school Cy Curnin, this was a Bowie-esque "I'm here and you'll enjoy it" >performance. > > > >Tim middle-parted his black hair, stoically playing bass as a foil for >Richard's antics. On guitar John was perfect all night; that ringing chorus, >flanger and echo sound just as I remembered. He cut a jolly figure, a bit >pronounced around the tum and jaunty cap, but damn he can still play. The >keys were there to glue everything together, the drums were fine and the sax >was a welcome change to the (sometimes) repetitive nature of their sound. >The setlist as posted in the Furs' forums: > > > >Heartbeat > >Into You Like a Train > >President Gas > >Love My Way > >The Ghost in You > >Only You and I > >Heartbreak Beat > >Heaven > >Wrong Train > >House > >Until She Comes > >Dumb Waiters > >Pretty In Pink > >(e) Sister Europe > >(e) Sleep Comes Down > > > >The crowd was an interesting mix of a) locals who were at the festival and >wanted to see who was playing that night, b) moms who were friends in >college, and brought their kids for some white-girl rock, c) gentlemen >couples, and d) indie music fans not otherwise grouped above. Once the >fuddy-duddies had been scared off - this would be around 'President Gas' - >the crowd filled in tight around the stage and it felt like a proper rock >show. > > > >Apparently they had to cut the set a couple songs short due to curfew, but >overall a smashing performance with all the songs I had expected to hear, >except 'All that Money Wants.' On leaving that night I thought that the fact >it was so far above my expectations colored my judgment, but a week later I >still think it's one of best shows I've seen in the last couple of years. >They're doing a few selected East and West Coast dates over the next couple >of weeks, so if they're near you by all means go for it. > > > >Michael ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:21:39 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: that big Alarm / FIxx / Psychelic Furs review I promised you ...Wow, sounded _great_, which is a bit of a bummer, since I seriously considered going... My niece (9 now), who we have with us more often than most Uncles/Aunts would, got indoctrinated to the first Furs record when I endlessly played a cassette of it (picked up at a rest stop for $2.99) in the car during our trips together when she was younger. (I, of course, had the original way back when, digging R. Butler as a sort of Johnny Rotten with melodies...and I could hear "Sister Europe" every day until I die and not tire of it...) ...Then, a few years back, the Furs played just across the street from my house (literally steps!) at a night concert at the Lincoln Park Zoo -- but it wasn't all-ages, and young Cory wanted to go as well, so...we put it off. Since then, we actually DID take her to her first rawk show (Lindsey Buckingham in St. Louis; we were in the front; I kept trying to keep her excited during the pre-show wait...but then, when he walked out, and she turned to me, almost amazed, and shouted, "That's Lindsey!" I knew it was all gonna work out perfectly; she later got to touch The Guitar during the encore...) ...So, I'd read about the RibFest show, and noted -- aha! finally an all-ages event! But, sadly, her parents have actually been shockingly more parental this summer and, after practically half-raising her all those years, my GF and I haven't seen the kid in about 7 weeks. Oh well...so we ended up not going...(I know -- coulda gone myself, anyway, but...summer lethargy and all: Naperville's a bit o' a hike from my place...taking the kid woulda been the perfect motivating excuse.) Glad to hear it was a great show (and I had seen the Alarm way back when and woulda been interested in them as well...but always HATED the Fixx and woulda gone for ribs, then, too..lol!), but, anyway, my niece woulda been a first-album purist, likely yelling for "Susan's Strange" and "Wedding Song" all night until Richard would have to ask for "that strange little blond girl who won't shut up" to be taken away... All for the best, probably... Michael "We're uuuuuuussssssseeee-less!" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 17:12:51 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: my list of demands Steve Schiavo says: > Wouldn't you rather have bunny girl Haruhi (with guitar)? > > > > Context > > knows----ENOZ-PV> i like this: "She also comes with two optional hands to display her holding a mic in her right hand and an open left hand" i think maybe they are "extra" and not "optional"? and sweet chocolate jesus, what's going on here? http://www.hlj.com/product/KYD01116 xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 21:14:31 -0400 From: Rex Subject: Re: that big Alarm / FIxx / Psychelic Furs review I promised you I won tickets to a Furs show at the House of Blues a few years ago, and it was cool, but it was oddly the week before I saw the Church at the same venue on purpose, and that was way less oldies-ish. "Imitation of Christ" was still nice, and why isn't "President Gas" the national anthem now, anyway? - -Rex On 7/9/07, Michael Sweeney wrote: > ...Wow, sounded _great_, which is a bit of a bummer, since I seriously > considered going... > > My niece (9 now), who we have with us more often than most Uncles/Aunts > would, got indoctrinated to the first Furs record when I endlessly played a > cassette of it (picked up at a rest stop for $2.99) in the car during our > trips together when she was younger. (I, of course, had the original way > back when, digging R. Butler as a sort of Johnny Rotten with melodies...and > I could hear "Sister Europe" every day until I die and not tire of it...) > > ...Then, a few years back, the Furs played just across the street from my > house (literally steps!) at a night concert at the Lincoln Park Zoo -- but > it wasn't all-ages, and young Cory wanted to go as well, so...we put it off. > Since then, we actually DID take her to her first rawk show (Lindsey > Buckingham in St. Louis; we were in the front; I kept trying to keep her > excited during the pre-show wait...but then, when he walked out, and she > turned to me, almost amazed, and shouted, "That's Lindsey!" I knew it was > all gonna work out perfectly; she later got to touch The Guitar during the > encore...) > > ...So, I'd read about the RibFest show, and noted -- aha! finally an > all-ages event! But, sadly, her parents have actually been shockingly more > parental this summer and, after practically half-raising her all those > years, my GF and I haven't seen the kid in about 7 weeks. Oh well...so we > ended up not going...(I know -- coulda gone myself, anyway, but...summer > lethargy and all: Naperville's a bit o' a hike from my place...taking the > kid woulda been the perfect motivating excuse.) > > Glad to hear it was a great show (and I had seen the Alarm way back when and > woulda been interested in them as well...but always HATED the Fixx and > woulda gone for ribs, then, too..lol!), but, anyway, my niece woulda been a > first-album purist, likely yelling for "Susan's Strange" and "Wedding Song" > all night until Richard would have to ask for "that strange little blond > girl who won't shut up" to be taken away... > > All for the best, probably... > > > Michael "We're uuuuuuussssssseeee-less!" Sweeney > > _________________________________________________________________ > http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 21:19:55 -0400 From: Rex Subject: Re: confession thread On 7/7/07, 2fs wrote: > Only glancingly, in that the phrase "boys of summer" was used to refer to > ballplayers as nostalgic evocation generally (as in Roger Kahn's book). The > song isn't about baseball at all (no mentions). It's about regrets, aging, > changes, etc. My favorite line is (slight paraphrase probably) "I saw a > Deadhead sticker on a Cadillac." > > And yes: it's probably the only Henley solo song I like as well. Gaahhh... what's wrong with you people? That song sucks worse than anything written by Doug Yule. Do I access a bizarro feglist when logging on from WV or something? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 21:24:17 -0400 From: Rex Subject: Re: Stew for Stewart? On 7/9/07, Stewart Russell wrote: > A friend recommended Stew's "Guest Host", and I dig it. I know I'm > coming late to The Negro Problem party, but what're the good albums? "Guest Host" is great. The first two Negro Problem albums are terrifice (Post-Mistrel Syndrome and Joys & Concerns). The songs on all of the other records are great, too (especially Naked Dutch Painter), but there's a little less consistency in sound-- NDP, for example, is half live, and the last Negro Problem record is in many ways more of a solo record than half of his solo stuff. But it's all good. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 19:12:25 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: confession thread >Gaahhh... what's wrong with you people? That song sucks worse than >anything written by Doug Yule. > >Do I access a bizarro feglist when logging on from WV or something? My fault, I'm afraid. but I did qualify it as a "guilty" activity. And I never mentioned that specific song anyway, I just said Henley - more drawn to something like "You're Not Drinking Enough" in actual practice. Never heard any of Dougie's stuff, though - is it really that bad? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 21:56:13 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Re: my list of demands On Jul 9, 2007, at 4:12 PM, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > and sweet chocolate jesus, what's going on here? > http://www.hlj.com/product/KYD01116 A couple of the zillions of little plastic girls and whatnot from Japan. Like so - - - Steve _______________ Consciousness occurs at the fundamental level of Planck scale geometry, normally in and around microtubules between our ears. But when brain coherence is lost, quantum information related to consciousness and the unconscious mind remain in the universe, distributed but still entangled. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 18:55:01 -0700 From: Elizabeth Brion Subject: Re: Stew for Stewart? On Jul 9, 2007, at 6:24 PM, Rex wrote: > On 7/9/07, Stewart Russell wrote: >> A friend recommended Stew's "Guest Host", and I dig it. I know I'm >> coming late to The Negro Problem party, but what're the good albums? > > "Guest Host" is great. The first two Negro Problem albums are > terrifice (Post-Mistrel Syndrome and Joys & Concerns). The songs on > all of the other records are great, too (especially Naked Dutch > Painter), but there's a little less consistency in sound-- NDP, for > example, is half live, and the last Negro Problem record is in many > ways more of a solo record than half of his solo stuff. But it's all > good. I don't listen to the last TNP record much, although it has a few songs that have made many of my iPod playlists, but everything else Stew's been involved with (to my ears, anyway) is rock solid. If I absolutely had to pick one, I'd go with Joys and Concerns - but the margin's razor thin. Might as well just buy them all now and get it over with, really. Elizabeth http://fringehead.com http://myspace.com/elizabethbrion http://last.fm/user/elizabethbrion ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 11:09:51 -0400 (EDT) From: djini@voicenet.com Subject: bumper stickers Brian Huddell wrote: > +brian "peewee soccer sticker on a Camry" in New Orleans Now that raises a question: what bumper stickers do various fegs sport? I *always* read bumper stickers, unless they are so small that reading them means risking an accident. My favorite recently is "We have the fossils. We win." My longterm favorite is "This car fueled by THAT PETROL EMOTION." However, I don't have any on my car, mostly because I hate hate hate my current car and refuse to decorate it. Except for the little daisy that's wired to the rear view mirror, which has been in every car I've owned since the early 90s. Jeanne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 04:01:59 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: my list of demands Steve Schiavo says: > Like so - > it's rather impressive that he seems to function pretty okay outside of the institution. in light of his example, i'm off to collect some more prime numbers. not only are they very cool, there's always more where they came from. and they're free. but yes, i know, they can't compete with that pez collection. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:07:40 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Stew for Stewart? Elizabeth Brion wrote: > > Might as well just buy them all now and get it over with, really. I fear it is thus. At least emusic has most of the albums. cheers, Stewart (np: Fred Spek's Camp Combo - Rock Paper Scissors) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:08:49 -0400 From: gaseous clay Subject: Re: bumper stickers one time at band camp, djini@voicenet.com (djini@voicenet.com) said: >Now that raises a question: what bumper stickers do various fegs sport? presently, none. but that will change eventually. the old golf bit it last year, so it was replaced with a new used 2003 golf. every since i caught the corner of the apartment building one day turning the corner out of the driveway, there's been pretty much no reason not to adorn it with a multitude of stickers ... but i just haven't gotten to it yet. bumper stickers i'd like to see someday: DISTEMPER FI PROUD PARENT OF A STARFLEET ACADEMY HONOR STUDENT I HATE YOU AND I VOTE BOARD ON BABY and so on and so on... woj n.p. rosie thomas - these friends of mine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:56:40 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: bumper stickers - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of gaseous clay Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 8:09 AM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Re: bumper stickers one time at band camp, djini@voicenet.com (djini@voicenet.com) said: >>Now that raises a question: what bumper stickers do various fegs sport? Woj: >presently, none. but that will change eventually. the old golf bit it last year, so it was replaced with a new used >2003 golf. every since i caught the corner of the apartment building one day turning the corner out of the driveway, >there's been pretty much no reason not to adorn it with a multitude of stickers ... but i just haven't gotten to it >yet. I have never been one to display bumper stickers on bumpers, but I did have a "The Nature Conservancy" one on my rear window on my old 1984 LeBaron that I drove from October 1992-October 1996. MJB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:20:43 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: bumper stickers /8/07, djini@voicenet.com wrote: > > Brian Huddell wrote: > > > +brian "peewee soccer sticker on a Camry" in New Orleans > > Now that raises a question: what bumper stickers do various fegs sport? I don't do bumper stickers, since two cars in a row died after we put bumper stickers on them... One of them, at least, was terribly clever, but I can't remember it. We have a window sticker advertising local independent radio station, and in the run-up to the last election I had an anti-Bush sticker placed inside the back window (rather than stuck to the vehicle itself). - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #260 ********************************