From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #257 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, July 6 2007 Volume 16 : Number 257 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #256 [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] New lolfegz [Tom Clark ] off to NYC [Jill Brand ] Re: New lolfegz [2fs ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #256 [FSThomas ] Psychedelic Renegades: Photos of Syd Barrett (Hardcover) by Mick Rock (Author) [HwyCDRrev] RE: Victim of the mailing list wars ["Michael Sweeney" ] Re: Victim of the mailing list wars [2fs ] Let this be a lesson to you [Steve Schiavo ] This changes everything. [Christopher Gross ] Re: 4th of July [Barbara Soutar ] Re: 4th of July [Barbara Soutar ] Re: iPods, NPs and stuff [Barbara Soutar ] RE: Victim of the mailing list wars ["Michael Wells" ] Re: 4th of July [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: Victim of the mailing list wars [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: This changes everything. ["vivien lyon" ] RE: 4th of July ["Bachman, Michael" ] Re: Victim of the mailing list wars [gaseous clay ] confession thread ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: confession thread [kevin ] Re: confession thread [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: confession thread [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: confession thread ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: confession thread [Jeff Dwarf ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 12:05:36 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #256 >The national league is OK if you like watching pitchers bunt . Depends on your tastes. Oh wait, you mean "to bunt" isn't a euphemism for...? James ("An orgy is a party with a lot of festive bunting") - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 18:00:16 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: New lolfegz I've been slacking off for a few days so I never posted the latest and greatest submissions from Jeff, James, and Mike Sweeney. http://lolfegz.denisvengeance.com/ Please enjoy them soon, won't you? - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 21:21:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: off to NYC I'm off to the American Tap Dance Festival in NYC with my daughter, who will be dancing in their pre-professional program. That means she's in class all day and I get to play. If anyone wants me, we'll be at the Chelsea-Savoy (not Dylan Thomas's Chelsea, though it's on the same street) for the week! Jill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 22:38:19 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: New lolfegz On 7/5/07, Tom Clark wrote: > > I've been slacking off for a few days FYTC! - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 23:59:03 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #256 grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: >> The national league is OK if you like watching pitchers bunt . > > Depends on your tastes. Oh wait, you mean "to bunt" isn't a euphemism > for...? The Designated Hitter rule is one of the sure signs of the Apocalypse. - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 01:04:27 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: Psychedelic Renegades: Photos of Syd Barrett (Hardcover) by Mick Rock (Author) _http://tinyurl.http://tin_ (http://tinyurl.com/3572af) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 05:08:48 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: RE: Victim of the mailing list wars "Michael Wells" wrote: >...I won't be going to that show either, not because of >the band but as it's being held at Wrigley Field (aka 'The World's >Largest Gay Bar'). At first, I was gonna answer this in kind, with something about the aptly nicknamed "Cell" (U.S. Cellular Field / Sox Park) being the home of the world's largest combined mullet-appreciator-fest / parole meeting...but, really, what was more offensive (even with the implied jokiness about the comment) was the offhand homophobia. No more appropriate than attempted racial humor -- what would one say in the same vein about, say, basketball crowds in Detroit or Atlanta? Or, in a different direction, an important chunk of the N.Y. Knicks fans in attendance regularly at MSG (think more Woody Allen than Spike Lee)? ...Anyway, 37 years of attendance there would more than put the lie to such a flippant characterization...but, besides actual truthul observation, I think the offensive comment (even if intended than no more than a needling joke to some of us (or even just to me)) is not worth just ignoring. While I personally can certainly shrug off a joke about my fave sports team and its stadium, I -- and certainly others for whom this sort of thing must hit even closer to home -- can not so easly brush off the assertion that even an entire ballpark-ful of homosexuals would be just a horrible, horrible thing to be anywhere near, much less actually attend... Here's hoping you spent the recent annual Gay Pride Parade locked away in a safe bunker, far from the "taint" of anything threatening and non-traditional... Michael Sweeney ps - previous attempts at National League vs. American League humor may have been arguable and less-than-stellarly presented...but neither did they impugn people's sexuality...and "Swiftian" that comment was certainly not... _________________________________________________________________ http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 00:53:50 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Victim of the mailing list wars 7/5/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > Michael Wells wrote: > > > > > The national league is OK if you like watching pitchers bunt > > . > > Hey, don't forget the overrated so-called genius of when to make the > double-switch. Proposed Revision of Rules of Baseball To Eliminate Yawn-Inducing Strategies, As the Above: 1. Revamp the ball, modeling the new ball (hereinafter "NuBall(tm)") after golf balls, with their increased rebound energy. Also, the NuBall(tm) will be the size of a softball. 2. Prohibit overhand pitches. Pitchers must henceforth lob the NuBall(tm) toward the plate underhand. 3. Eliminate infielders. No one's going to want to see a ball hit such a short distance anyway. 4. Instead, double the number of outfielders - but equip half of them (NuFielders) with enormous Nerf-like gloves on both hands, designed not to catch NuBalls(tm) but to tackle baserunners without risk to the outfielders' batting hands. *See Item 7 below 5. To protect pitchers, the pitcher's mound will, instead of being raised as it is currently, be a circular pit about one foot deep. Pitchers will, immediately after releasing the ball, dive into this pit, to prevent the ricocheting struck NuBall(tm) from decapitating them. 6. Outfield seating will be eliminated, in favor of a series of electronic sensing devices that will, when a batter propels a NuBall(tm) onto them, trigger various events, viz, lottery winners in assigned seats, nude dancers, fireworks, laser light show, exploding goat, etc. 7. Eliminate second and third base. Batters, upon putting NuBall(tm) into play but failing to hit home run, must merely run to first base and back home to score. Rather than fielders throwing NuBall(tm) to the catcher to put out the runner, NuFielders will be allowed to try to tackle runners. 8. Do not stop play just because there's been an out. As soon as one batter either puts a ball into play or is struck out (yeah right), the next batter must sprint to the plate, knowing that the pitcher has a supply of three or four NuBalls(tm) at all times, ready to be thrown to the catcher. It is considered bad form if a batter strikes a NuBall(tm) in such a manner as to fatally injure a baserunning teammate. 9. Batters who propel the NuBall(tm) completely outside the stadium get credit for twenty home runs. This should create numerous record-chases to thrill fans. I think these rule changes will bring baseball into the 21st century and give it the kind of appeal that will make it a successful televisual sport once again. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 00:56:27 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Victim of the mailing list wars On 7/6/07, 2fs wrote: > > > > Proposed Revision of Rules of Baseball To Eliminate Yawn-Inducing > Strategies, As the Above: > Oops, forgot one: Bats shall be aluminum, twice as wide as previously allowed, and equipped with a three pound sliding steel rod in their centers, whose action should increase the momentum of each swing to allow for more spectacular feats of long-range hitting. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 07:40:09 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: Let this be a lesson to you - - Steve _______________ Interaction with cosmic intelligence may be influence by Penrose noncomputable Platonic wisdom embedded in Planck scale geometry. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 09:22:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: This changes everything. "Octosquid" found off Hawaii. http://www.thehawaiichannel.com/news/13630402/detail.html?rss=hon&psp=news - --Chris ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 06:26:04 -0700 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: Re: 4th of July Benjamin wondered how it's possible to see across the Strait of Juan de Fuca: We can only see the lights of the city and it helps to use a telescope. On the 4th of July we can see fireworks and even then they look like tiny flowers in the sky. So it's not like we have a clear view... Barbara Soutar Victoria, BC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 06:40:30 -0700 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: Re: 4th of July To be accurate, the American fireworks appear about an inch above the horizon. It's not like we can enjoy the show, just note its existence. Barbara Soutar Victoria, BC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 07:05:10 -0700 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: Re: iPods, NPs and stuff Kevin, I don't know all the historic facts from the George Washington era, but I'm impressed anyway. I have no ancestors worth mentioning, all British working class as far as I know. Though my brother has designed some American stamps... his name is Mark Summers if you want to check them out on the internet. Barbara Soutar Victoria, BC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 09:26:27 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: RE: Victim of the mailing list wars Michael Wells mwells@imageworksmfg.com Purchasing Manager Imageworks Manufacturing, Inc 49 South Street Park Forest, IL 60466 PH 708.503.1122 FX 708.503.1133 > but, really, what was more offensive (even with the implied jokiness about the comment) was the offhand homophobia Don't worry, no offense taken. I first heard the phrase from a gay friend of ours. He used to say they had more sausage up there (Wrigley Field) than Bob Evans, but then he had a great sense of humor. > Here's hoping you spent the recent annual Gay Pride Parade locked away in a safe bunker Hey, I was *in* the parade! I wore my backless Cubs chaps. Jfs: > Proposed Revision of Rules of Baseball To Eliminate Yawn-Inducing Strategies, As the Above: Now /that/ is funny! Ferris: > The Designated Hitter rule is one of the sure signs of the Apocalypse. In what way? I still don't understand the objection. I want to see good hitters hit and good pitchers pitch. Wasted at-bat from a pitcher should mean 1/9th of my ticket price back. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 10:18:18 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Victim of the mailing list wars On 7/6/07, Michael Wells wrote: > > > > > but, really, what was more offensive (even with the implied jokiness > about the comment) was the offhand homophobia > > Don't worry, no offense taken. > > I first heard the phrase from a gay friend of ours. He used to say they > had more sausage up there (Wrigley Field) than Bob Evans, but then he > had a great sense of humor. Whew. I thought we were going to have a Michael/Michael battle to rival the Broome Wars. Thanks for handling this disagreement like, you know, actual adults. > Here's hoping you spent the recent annual Gay Pride Parade locked away > in a safe bunker > > Hey, I was *in* the parade! I wore my backless Cubs chaps. I've seen pictures of Mr. Wells. The image of him in backless Cubs chaps...well, if I were gay, I'm not so sure I would be after that. (As the great philosopher F.H Leghorno said, "That's a joke, son.") - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 09:21:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: 4th of July On Fri, 6 Jul 2007, Barbara Soutar wrote: > Benjamin wondered how it's possible to see across the Strait of Juan de > Fuca: We can only see the lights of the city and it helps to use a > telescope. On the 4th of July we can see fireworks and even then they > look like tiny flowers in the sky. So it's not like we have a clear view... Got it. Do you have fireworks on Canada Day? I should know, having grown up so close to BC, but I remain sadly ignorant. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 09:57:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Victim of the mailing list wars Isn't that pretty much blernsball? 2fs wrote: > 7/5/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > Michael Wells wrote: > > > The national league is OK if you like watching pitchers bunt > > > . > > > > Hey, don't forget the overrated so-called genius of when to make > > the double-switch. > > Proposed Revision of Rules of Baseball To Eliminate Yawn-Inducing > Strategies, As the Above: > > 1. Revamp the ball, modeling the new ball (hereinafter > "NuBall(tm)") after golf balls, with their increased rebound > energy. Also, the NuBall(tm) will be the size of a softball. > > 2. Prohibit overhand pitches. Pitchers must henceforth lob the > NuBall(tm) toward the plate underhand. > > 3. Eliminate infielders. No one's going to want to see a ball hit > such a short distance anyway. > > 4. Instead, double the number of outfielders - but equip half of > them (NuFielders) with enormous Nerf-like gloves on both hands, > designed not to catch NuBalls(tm) but to tackle baserunners > without risk to the outfielders' batting hands. *See Item 7 below > > 5. To protect pitchers, the pitcher's mound will, instead of being > raised as it is currently, be a circular pit about one foot deep. > Pitchers will, immediately after releasing the ball, dive into > this pit, to prevent the ricocheting struck NuBall(tm) from > decapitating them. > > 6. Outfield seating will be eliminated, in favor of a series of > electronic sensing devices that will, when a batter propels a > NuBall(tm) onto them, trigger various events, viz, lottery winners > in assigned seats, nude dancers, fireworks, laser light show, > exploding goat, etc. > > 7. Eliminate second and third base. Batters, upon putting > NuBall(tm) into play but failing to hit home run, must merely run > to first base and back home to score. Rather than fielders > throwing NuBall(tm) to the catcher to put out the runner, > NuFielders will be allowed to try to tackle runners. > > 8. Do not stop play just because there's been an out. As soon as > one batter either puts a ball into play or is struck out (yeah > right), the next batter must sprint to the plate, knowing that the > pitcher has a supply of three or four NuBalls(tm) at all times, > ready to be thrown to the catcher. It is considered bad form if a > batter strikes a NuBall(tm) in such a manner as to > fatally injure a baserunning teammate. > > 9. Batters who propel the NuBall(tm) completely outside the stadium > get credit for twenty home runs. This should create numerous > record-chases to thrill fans. > > I think these rule changes will bring baseball into the 21st > century and give it the kind of appeal that will make it a > successful televisual sport once again. All you need for the latter is to set Tim McCarver and Joe Buck on fire. "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 10:30:48 -0700 From: "vivien lyon" Subject: Re: This changes everything. Miscegeny on the High Seas! Octopuses and squid living together! It's anarchy! On 7/6/07, Christopher Gross wrote: > > "Octosquid" found off Hawaii. > > http://www.thehawaiichannel.com/news/13630402/detail.html?rss=hon&psp=news > > > --Chris > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. > chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 14:01:09 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: 4th of July - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Benjamin Lukoff Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 12:22 PM To: Barbara Soutar Cc: FEGMANIAX Subject: Re: 4th of July On Fri, 6 Jul 2007, Barbara Soutar wrote: >> Benjamin wondered how it's possible to see across the Strait of Juan >> de >> Fuca: We can only see the lights of the city and it helps to use a >> telescope. On the 4th of July we can see fireworks and even then they >> look like tiny flowers in the sky. So it's not like we have a clear view... Benjamin came back with: >Got it. >Do you have fireworks on Canada Day? I should know, having grown up so close to BC, but I remain sadly ignorant. Detroit has it's 4th of July fireworks on the Detroit River a day or two before Canada Day, so for the folks across the river in Windsor, ONT it's like there fireworks as well. It's also a lot safer viewing them from the Canadian side and the beer is better to boot! MJ Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 14:33:49 -0400 From: gaseous clay Subject: Re: Victim of the mailing list wars one time at band camp, Jeff Dwarf (munki1972@yahoo.com) said: >2fs wrote: >> Proposed Revision of Rules of Baseball To Eliminate Yawn-Inducing >> Strategies, As the Above: >Isn't that pretty much blernsball? :s/blernsball/cricket/g >All you need for the latter is to set Tim McCarver and Joe Buck on >fire. probably should add a trapezoidal region behind home plate that defines the area where the catcher can pick up a passed ball or wild pitch. if he plays either one outside of the trapezoid, there will have to be two minute delay of game penalty served by one of the outfielders. woj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 16:38:27 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: confession thread hi fegs, here is a thread to confess your deep dark secrets. i'll start. so i've been listening to the velvet underground and nico album forever it seems, and not that i would have articulated it this way at the time, but i always sort of filed "black angel's death song" and "european son" under "the junk at the end of the velvet underground and nico album." i think i even kind of thought of the two as one song because i didn't like them enough to bother to distinguish them e.g. "black angel's european son" or "european death song", depending on what parts of the song titles i could recall that day. not that i actively disliked them - it was more like letting the album run out after the good songs were done. so who knows how long it took for me to notice when that all changed, but to-day i found myself putting the album on just to hear those songs. well, "heroin" too but that goes without saying. n.b.: this is really more like an observation that a confession, but feel free to use the thread for confession since, as you can see, observations aren't all that interesting. xo p.s. but really, someone should confess to replacing feglist with a baseball forum. - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 14:50:58 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: confession thread >so who knows how long it took for me to notice when that all changed, >but to-day i found myself putting the album on just to hear those >songs. well, "heroin" too but that goes without saying. The wife will occasionally stride into the room and turn off "European Son" about halfway through. Not a big Lou fan - I referred to him as an asshole once and she demanded to know, if he's such an asshole why am I always listening to his stuff? The response that he's a talented asshole who makes me laugh didn't go anywhere. Guilty secret: singing along to Don Henley records when nobody's around. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 23:09:41 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: confession thread - -- Lauren Elizabeth is rumored to have mumbled on 6. Juli 2007 16:38:27 -0400 regarding confession thread: > here is a thread to confess your deep dark secrets. > > i'll start. I'm not sure I can follow suit, but I can respond. > so i've been listening to the velvet underground and nico > album forever it seems, and not that i would have articulated it this > way at the time, but i always sort of filed "black angel's death song" > and "european son" under "the junk at the end of the velvet > underground and nico album." I know what you mean :-) > i think i even kind of thought of the > two as one song because i didn't like them enough to bother to > distinguish them e.g. "black angel's european son" or "european death > song", depending on what parts of the song titles i could recall that > day. Well, that changed for me with the Feelies. They used to to do a great VU medley live: Run Run Run - European Son - What Goes One. Because of that I grew to like European Son. > so who knows how long it took for me to notice when that all changed, > but to-day i found myself putting the album on just to hear those > songs. Well, I can't see myself doing *that*! > well, "heroin" too but that goes without saying. Huh. I guess my favorite song, which I play without listening to the whole CD, is Sunday Morning. And I guess I'd pick Venus In Furs over Heroin. > n.b.: this is really more like an observation that a confession, but > feel free to use the thread for confession since, as you can see, > observations aren't all that interesting. Confession: today I got a new wardrobe that's faux-antique. Normally I *hate* that kind of thing. I'm not sure why I didn't go for an actual antique - it really looks like an antique, though ;-) If you're interested, it's basically the one on the right, just a little smaller: ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 15:34:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: confession thread I actually like the two VU albums with Doug Yule more than the two with John Cale. Not because of anything Cale related, I just think they have stronger songs. "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 19:53:08 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: confession thread kevin says: > Guilty secret: singing along to Don Henley records when nobody's around. which is the guilty secret: the singing along or the playing don henley records? xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 17:18:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: confession thread Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > kevin says: > > Guilty secret: singing along to Don Henley records when nobody's > > around. > > which is the guilty secret: the singing along or the playing don > henley records? Other confession: I like "The Boys of Summer." Hate everything else. Like that one. "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #257 ********************************