From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #235 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, June 13 2007 Volume 16 : Number 235 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Chicago Pizza ["Miles Goosens" ] RE: Dallas gives a beautiful light + Chicago pizza coda ["Bachman, Michae] Re: Jeff Dwarf and tc, take note ["Miles Goosens" ] OK, second best [Jill Brand ] Re: Jeff Dwarf and tc, take note [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Robyn in Utrecht [hssmrg@bath.ac.uk] Re: Jeff Dwarf and tc, take note ["Miles Goosens" ] Re: OK, second best [kevin ] Reap [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Jeff Dwarf and tc, take note [Rex ] Re: Jeff Dwarf and tc, take note [Christopher Gross ] Re: Chicago Pizza ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Jeff Dwarf and tc, take note [kevin ] Re: Chicago Pizza [2fs ] Agh ["Stacked Crooked" ] Re: more geek humor ["Michael Sweeney" ] Re: Chicago Pizza ["Michael Sweeney" ] Re: Chicago Pizza ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] RE: same thing but chicago ["Michael Sweeney" ] Robyn in Utrecht ["Michael Sweeney" ] Re: Agh ["vivien lyon" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:37:51 -0500 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: Chicago Pizza On 6/11/07, 2fs wrote: > On 6/11/07, Bachman, Michael wrote: > > > > > > > > Milwaukee = German food and some great freshwater fish restaurants. > > > > A better answer would be: "fish fries, and custard." We're mad about fish > fries To what will be the eternal amusement of my girlfriend, I read "fish fries" to mean "fish in the shape of a french fry" rather than "event where they fry up lots of fish." I think all those White Castle "chicken rings" commercials have got me thinkin' that everyone's putting meat into vegetable shapes these days. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:58:30 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Dallas gives a beautiful light + Chicago pizza coda - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Miles Goosens Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 2:24 PM To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Dallas gives a beautiful light + Chicago pizza coda On 6/10/07, michael wells wrote: >> See, I told you, don't bring up pizza around here. It's like asking >> for BBQ recommendations in San Antonio (which if you need, contact >> Gene. Trust me on this.). Miles: >While I'd likely rather visit S.A. or Austin if I had my Texas druthers, my youngest sister and I will be in the Dallas area for a weekend in the nearish future. I'll have a good chunk of free time, so if anyone's got food and sightseeing tips for the Big D, I'd appreciate it. This will be my first time actually visiting Texas - I've changed planes at DFW (ugh!) and Houston Int'l, but that's been it. I had a great steak in Amarillo on the way to the Grand Canyon in 1983. Never been back to Texas since. >> In my book Uno and Due are shit, and have been ever since they were >> sold the first time. Miles again: >I love Chicago more than any other big US city that I've visited. >Pizzawise, hmm... last time I was there - '03 - we ate at the original Uno location, and enjoyed it. >My friend Tim, a native South Sider, always took me to Connie's when I visited, and I enjoyed that too. I would say that Chicago is a very close second to San Francisco for me. As for smaller cities under 100,000 folks, it's Traverse City, MI with it's two beautiful bays and Old Mission pennisula, surrounding hills, great restaurants, two dozen wineries close by, countless smaller lakes, a salmon filled river in the Fall, a great farmers market, the Cherry Festival every year, Michael Moore's Film Festival entering it's third year, I could go on and on. After watching the season finale of The Sopranos, I was surprized to learn that the Little Italy section of NYC has been reduced from 40 square blocks to just 1 street block! I would have never guessed that it was so small having never been to NYC. MJ Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:34:41 -0500 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: Jeff Dwarf and tc, take note On 6/10/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > I also love That 70s Show. I hope people will still talk to me. > > At least it's not According to Jim. THAT '70s SHOW was one of my favorites for its first 3 or 4 years. Topher Grace's Newhartesque turn as Eric, the scarily accurate decor of th Foreman residence, funny writing and affable acting from all the principal cast - it had a lot to like. Its last few years saw the writing fall down several notches, settling for quick, dumb punchlines instead of nuance, but it was never plain awful even at its worst. Two of my favorite recent-ish sitcoms were: * EVERYBODY LOVES RAYMOND, a show that masqueraded as a typical TV sitcom but was the darkest, meanest, most subversive show I've ever seen on network TV. You want a journey to the real heart of darkness inside everyday family life, RAYMOND's your ticket. I'm still amused that it not only was the most popular show on TV for several years, but that it was a consistent runaway #1 among "family values"-type voters - I think unedited footage from R. Kelly's grotto would be far less traumatic to innocent psyches. I think a lot of my peeps were put off by the show's title and consequent marketing, which seemed to insist that you the viewer must love Ray, when the title is actually best heard in the voice of Ray's TV brother Robert (Brad Garrett), said dripping with icy disdain. * The just-ended KING OF QUEENS, another masquerade - looks like genial working-class-schlub yukfest, but actually a savage, whimsical, and sometimes surreal show, at its best more akin to latter-day NEWHART or the 2nd and 3rd seasons of THE JOHN LARROQUETTE SHOW. If you haven't seen the truly weird ones, like the one where Doug (Kevin James) tries to seduce his father-in-law Arthur (Jerry Stiller) into bed, or when Doug and Carrie (Leah Remini) start going to church because their prayers get answered, or where Doug and Carrie get another couple's photos by mistake but then start living vicariously through these photos and deliberately stealing more of the other couple's photos... well, then you really haven't seen the show. There goes what was left of my credibility! WOOT! Raymond FTW, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 14:57:06 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Jeff Dwarf and tc, take note On 6/12/07, Miles Goosens wrote: > > On 6/10/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > > I also love That 70s Show. I hope people will still talk to me. > > > > At least it's not According to Jim. > > THAT '70s SHOW was one of my favorites for its first 3 or 4 years. > Topher Grace's Newhartesque turn as Eric, the scarily accurate decor > of th Foreman residence, funny writing and affable acting from all the > principal cast - it had a lot to like. Its last few years saw the > writing fall down several notches, settling for quick, dumb punchlines > instead of nuance, but it was never plain awful even at its worst. I agree completely with your first two sentences, and the first two clauses of your third...but unfortunately, that downfall was too painful for me to stomach the show after that. I tried, too - I remember one episode seemed incapable of going two minute without a painfully labored, unfunny joke involving the word "balls" - and unlike in the show's earlier years, where the meta-humor of the situation (that a bunch of teen doofuses like this probably themselves couldn't go two minutes without a p.l.u.j.i.t.w.balls), it felt much more like the show itself was desperately trying to attract a larger, stupider audience. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:01:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: OK, second best "The predictable snide response to Jill's claim is this: http://crazytalk.typepad.com/bluegrassroots/2007/06/fun_at_the_crea.html" After viewing this website, I will concede that the Creation Museum is even cooler than the Field. Wow, those crazy Christians. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 22:05:36 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Jeff Dwarf and tc, take note - -- Miles Goosens is rumored to have mumbled on 12. Juni 2007 14:34:41 -0500 regarding Re: Jeff Dwarf and tc, take note: > Two of my favorite recent-ish sitcoms were: > > * EVERYBODY LOVES RAYMOND, a show that masqueraded as a typical TV > sitcom but was the darkest, meanest, most subversive show I've ever > seen on network TV. You want a journey to the real heart of darkness > inside everyday family life, RAYMOND's your ticket. All I've ever seen of it was the pilot. I was curious. I'd say that I noticed all the things you describe, but my impression was that they were being *celebrated*! It seemed like it was saying: family is hell, but that's the way it ought to be. I didn't enjoy that at all. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:54:12 -0500 From: "Michael Wells" Subject: RE: same thing but chicago Marc: > Smith and Wollensky's is one of my favorites as well. It is, to me, a most classical approach to steak. It is the only one where you get a really good char taste, I think, as they cook over flame instead of broil. One of the best steaks I ever had was at S&W in Vegas a few years back, a deliciously charred bone-in ribeye. Again, right on the money...they do a steak about as well as anyone. Those 900 degree IR broilers that other places use just don't impart the same gritty, charred-flesh taste. Yum! Marc, you and I need to sit down over some prime, dry-aged beef sooner rather than later. Dolph: > PIZZA: I echo Viv's pizza recommendation of Lou Malnati's -- to me, this is the ultimate Chicago deep-dish pie. This is a hard one for me - I can see how people love Lou's, and I think it has all the hallmarks of proper pie, but we went there ALL the time when I was a kid. There weren't many places nearby where we could afford to eat, but we sure overdid it on Lou's. I can't eat there to this day. > HOT DOGS: If at all possible, get thee to Hot Doug's for the ideal in both traditional Chicago dogs and exotic sausage Good call! > Gibson's (the latter more for the ambience and service). Gibson's is an interesting place, and you're right about the ambience - but I've had a couple poorly cooked steaks there in a row. Seems like another place living off the rep and the crowd, but I haven't been there in over a year. I'm at the point that unless it's a work dinner I'm just as happy doing it up myself at home. Buy a whole tenderloin and take a couple sweet cuts out of the middle, sauti up an assortment of fresh mushrooms, bake up a couple potatoes, blanch some broccoli, maybe cream some spinach, drinks on the patio...killer, just killer. There's a butcher near me that sells the best marinated and tenderized flank steak you have ever had in your life. Gets a nice, crunchy exterior from the white-hot grill and the inside melts in your mouth. You can also go Mexican with arrocheras and peppers, or maybe smoke some beef brisket. I loves me some grilling. A lot. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:17:55 +0100 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Robyn in Utrecht Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:29:48 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Robyn in Utrecht Enjoy! - - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock * Sorry I didn't make it, Sebastian - sounds like a great set! I was visiting my sick mother-in-law in Treharris, a Welsh valley town which time forgot when the pits (=coal mines) closed. Hellish journey there by public transport and even worse coming back. - - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:33:29 -0500 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: Jeff Dwarf and tc, take note On 6/12/07, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > -- Miles Goosens is rumored to have mumbled on 12. > Juni 2007 14:34:41 -0500 regarding Re: Jeff Dwarf and tc, take note: > > > Two of my favorite recent-ish sitcoms were: > > > > * EVERYBODY LOVES RAYMOND, a show that masqueraded as a typical TV > > sitcom but was the darkest, meanest, most subversive show I've ever > > seen on network TV. You want a journey to the real heart of darkness > > inside everyday family life, RAYMOND's your ticket. > > All I've ever seen of it was the pilot. I was curious. I'd say that I > noticed all the things you describe, but my impression was that they were > being *celebrated*! It seemed like it was saying: family is hell, but > that's the way it ought to be. I didn't enjoy that at all 1) The first season, perhaps not surprisingly, starts out closer to the sitcom mainstream, especially those first few episodes. Since the show doesn't require any prerequisites, unlike shows that depend heavily on continuity, this is a case where I'd say take advantage of the DVD era and jump right in with the third or fourth season when the show is fully realized. Unlike B5 or BUFFY, you don't need to wade through a sometimes spotty first season to enjoy the good stuff that comes later. Not that RAYMOND doesn't offer some extra depth if you've seen 'em all, but as a beginner who needs convincing, you need the good stuff right away. (SEINFELD comes to mind as another show that started out quite a bit more normal and not as funny - I remember watching some of the very early ones solely because I was glad to see SNL alum Julia Louis-Dreyfus in something new, and thinking "it's *ok* but the pacing is off and it's not *that* funny." And viewing them again after the show's massive success, you know what? They really weren't that funny. It's not until the show got its 13-episode order that it becomes itself, so to speak.) 2) Oh, it is *so* not celebrating family. Oh no no no no. And every time they get close to something saccharine, there's a glorious moment of pure evil to offset it. Semi-puffball trip to Italy episode? First thing in the very next one, Frank and Marie crash the car into Ray and Deborah's living room. Like the Ancien Regime, the characters learn nothing and forget nothing. later, Miles ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:43:50 -0700 From: "vivien lyon" Subject: Re: Jeff Dwarf and tc, take note On 6/12/07, Miles Goosens wrote: > > . Unlike B5 or BUFFY, you don't need to wade > through a sometimes spotty first season to enjoy the good stuff that > comes later. I'm dipping my toe in the waters of Buffie at last. Watched the first three episodes and am relieved that it's not very good yet. I am so afraid of being eaten alive by this show, and I'm actually glad that there's sort of a buffer zone of a spotty first season. I figure, I can watch the first season, sort of prime myself, and then when I'm good and ready to sit in front of a tv or computer for ten hour stretches, I can allow the obsession to begin. V. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:20:24 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: OK, second best Wow, those crazy Christians. Sounds like an HBO series to me. Wacky documentary, hosted by John Astin or maybe Paul Krassner. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:05:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Reap Don "Mr. Wizard" Herbert http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/06/12/entertainment/e163157D14.DTL&type=entertainment ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 17:20:32 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Jeff Dwarf and tc, take note On 6/12/07, vivien lyon wrote: > > > I'm dipping my toe in the waters of Buffie at last. Watched the first > three > episodes and am relieved that it's not very good yet. I am so afraid of > being eaten alive by this show, and I'm actually glad that there's sort of > a > buffer zone of a spotty first season. I figure, I can watch the first > season, sort of prime myself, and then when I'm good and ready to sit in > front of a tv or computer for ten hour stretches, I can allow the > obsession > to begin. Ah, she speaks for me as well, on a number of shows. At this point in my life, I just can't watch TV; either I'm literally occupied doing other things most of the time, or the TV is in use by children often enough that I don't want it on when I have a spare moment either for myself or with my girlfriend. (We tried Netflix, but we never actually watch the films... I guess we're the side of their business model that counterbalances all those folks who burn through a film or two a day). So now I'm sort of collecting TV shows (or more exactly the "ideas" of TV shows) to enjoy in my dotage. You know, along with all those great novels I haven't gotten around to. For now, I actually enjoy TV vicariously, through discussions and reviews and such. Pretty painless, actually, since I'm not much of a spoilerphobe. Although I do get kind of happy when shows that get way too much press go off the air; I've actually gotten tired of reading about shows as works-in-progress. I'll not even be able to think about sampling The Sopranos for quite some time. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 21:37:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Gross Subject: Re: Jeff Dwarf and tc, take note On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, vivien lyon wrote: > I'm dipping my toe in the waters of Buffie at last. Watched the first three > episodes and am relieved that it's not very good yet. I am so afraid of > being eaten alive by this show, and I'm actually glad that there's sort of a > buffer zone of a spotty first season. Okay, I'll put the "One of us! One of us!" chant on hold. > I figure, I can watch the first > season, sort of prime myself, and then when I'm good and ready to sit in > front of a tv or computer for ten hour stretches, I can allow the obsession > to begin. I'll warn you that the first half of season two is a lot like season one: a couple of great episodes mixed in with a bunch of fair-to-middling ones and a couple of clunkers. Be patient. The obsession will likely set by around mid-season, and some of the best episodes ever made occur in the second half of the season. Also, please note that Ms. Summers spells her first name with a Y. Buffie with an IE is an "urban" model known for her big ass, or so I am given to understand. - --Chris (whose ears are still ringing from the Skinny Puppy show) ______________________________________________________________________ Christopher Gross On the Internet, nobody knows I'm a dog. chrisg@gwu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 22:28:50 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Chicago Pizza later, Miles says: > To what will be the eternal amusement of my girlfriend, I read "fish > fries" to mean "fish in the shape of a french fry" rather than "event > where they fry up lots of fish." I think all those White Castle > "chicken rings" commercials have got me thinkin' that everyone's > putting meat into vegetable shapes these days. Not so fast - they might well be french fries in the shape of fish. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:52:59 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: Jeff Dwarf and tc, take note >I'm dipping my toe in the waters of Buffie at last. Watched the first three >episodes and am relieved that it's not very good yet. I am so afraid of >being eaten alive by this show, and I'm actually glad that there's sort of a >buffer zone of a spotty first season. Now I'm getting all nostalgic for Buffy et al. Especially the vampire Willow..."I think I might be a little bit gay"...Bon appetit! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 22:24:30 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Chicago Pizza On 6/12/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > later, Miles says: > > To what will be the eternal amusement of my girlfriend, I read "fish > > fries" to mean "fish in the shape of a french fry" rather than "event > > where they fry up lots of fish." I think all those White Castle > > "chicken rings" commercials have got me thinkin' that everyone's > > putting meat into vegetable shapes these days. > > Not so fast - they might well be french fries in the shape of fish. They're not. "Fish fries" are, alas, as Miles suggested, "events where they fry up lots of fish." - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 20:59:51 -0700 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: Agh what do you do when your favourite band releases a shitty album? it occurs to me that this has never happened to me before now. judas priest, my favourite band during the mid-'80s, were surpassed by queensryche before they began releasing shitty albums. queensryche were surpassed by the egyptians before they began releasing shitty albums. the egyptians broke up without ever releasing a shitty album. whereon, fave-band status redounded to sugar, who, like the egyptians before them, broke up before releasing any shitty albums. TOOL then took up the mantle, to be surpassed, owing muchly to their parsimonious output, by sleater-kinney. TOOL have yet to release a shitty album; and by the time sleater-kinney broke up without ever having released a shitty album, the new pornographers had become, in my estimation, their equal. and now the new pornographers have released a shitty album, and i don't know what to do. should i weep? should i self-flagellate? should i mush a turd into the white-house lawn? what do you do when your favourite band releases a shitty album? by the way, i learned the word "parsimonious" when a customer wrote on a comment card that the restaurant offered "parsimonious salad fixings". i actually had to look it up, as it wasn't clear from the context what it might've meant. that was many years ago, but until to-day, i had never used it in a sentence. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 03:56:30 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: more geek humor Lauren Elizabeth sez: >Sweeney says: >>I HAZ A FLAVOR OF KNIGHTZ & U HAZ A IZ CREAMZ HANDZ!!!! > >i'm wondering what will happen when sweeney gets ahold of a copy of >photoshop. ...Oh, I've got that (and more!)...it's just been that a) On the road: limited time, even more limited intrawebs access...and b) word guy -- easy to dash off a theorectical sentence or two...tougher sled finding pics and working them, etc. Michael "We're in luck -- I seem to have burned out after that flurry o' mixed-bag ideas..." Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only on MSN http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 04:07:45 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: Chicago Pizza Jeff wrote: >On 6/11/07, Bachman, Michael wrote: > >>Milwaukee = German food and some great freshwater fish restaurants. > >The first is largely myth. There are two remaining German restaurants from >the old days - it's instructive that the third one closed down due to lack >of business about five years ago. ...I hear ya...we used to enjoy Mader's, but hadn't been back for awhile. Went last month and were pretty disappointed (but that may have mostly been me, hung over from my 45th b-day the night before)...But DO always enjoy the brats at Miller Park (with the old "Stadium Sauce") and got some good frozen custard at Leon's (I think it was)... Michael "I told you it was subjective...I could name a dozen Chicago pizza places no out-of-towner would have heard of (or easily found on a short trip), but...what's the point? someone else could pick their dozen and we might have no overlap..." Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Make every IM count. Download Messenger and join the im Initiative now. Its free. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_June07 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 00:20:46 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Chicago Pizza On 6/12/07, 2fs wrote: > On 6/12/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > later, Miles says: > > > To what will be the eternal amusement of my girlfriend, I read "fish > > > fries" to mean "fish in the shape of a french fry" rather than "event > > > where they fry up lots of fish." I think all those White Castle > > > "chicken rings" commercials have got me thinkin' that everyone's > > > putting meat into vegetable shapes these days. > > > > Not so fast - they might well be french fries in the shape of fish. > > > They're not. > > "Fish fries" are, alas, as Miles suggested, "events where they fry up lots > of fish." it's not that i didn't believe him. it was, as the boss used to say, "noted and ignored." then again, he also used to say, "lauren, not everyone..." oh frack it, you know the drill. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 04:22:36 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: RE: same thing but chicago Dolph Chaney wrote: >At 08:25 AM 6/12/2007, Bachman, Michael wrote: > >>Getting away from steak and moving onto fish restaurants in Chicago, >>I've been to Shucker's on Ontario Street and also the fish restaurant in >>The Drake and enjoyed both immensely. Is Shucker's still decent? I went >>years ago and my sister went a few years later and wasn't impressed as I >>was. > >I used to know someone in the kitchen at the Drake, and from his cooking >I'm not surprised you enjoyed it! Haven't been to Shucker's. My choice >for pricey but refined seafood would be Shaw's Crab House -- service can be >a little stuffy, but you're really getting quality. Shaw's is my seafood pick, too -- but my fave trick (been going there almost 20 years, as I used to have a friend who bartended there) is to go to the adjoining Blue Crab Lounge for faster seating and basically the same menu...PLUS half-price on at least one type of oyster during "Oyster Hour" (4-6pm, IIRC). I do luv me those oysters (had some nice ones on the beach here in St. Pete's tonight at a spot called Crabby Bill's...) ...And, strangely enuf -- the best steak I had in my eating-very-rare-meat-life was not in Chicago (or even in K.C. -- but luv the Arthur Bryant's, as well)...but at Mickey Mantle's restaurant in NY. My niece doodled on the back of the menu while we waited, and drew a baseball player in pinstripes holding a bat in one hand and a beer in the other. Unintentionally done, without any prompting...and I had never seen a more naively accurate depiction of the Mick... Michael "And, no, I don't want to name a child (or even a cat) 'Seven'..." Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Make every IM count. Download Messenger and join the im Initiative now. Its free. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_June07 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 04:29:52 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Robyn in Utrecht Sebastian linked: > > >Enjoy! [from link:] "Compare that to the always-affable Peter Buck! He actively seeks the contact of fans, shakes hands with everyone and is as easy-going as you could wish for. He said "Hey man, good to see you!" to me and gave every impression of actually recognizing me (he has seen me several times, but still)." (Shakes head slowly in abject pity of the abused, trod-upon figure of a man that is Tom Clark...) Michael Sweeney (Actually, when I got PB to sign for me in Philly, my girlfriend wanted me to go up and mention TC...but our newbie friend Mary just wanted us to shun him, because "Michael Stipe's voice annoys me...") _________________________________________________________________ Picture this  share your photos and you could win big! http://www.GETREALPhotoContest.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM&loc=us ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 21:09:35 -0700 From: "vivien lyon" Subject: Re: Agh Cheers to parsimonious! As for what you do when your favorite band releases a shitty album, I suppose you grow cold inside and die. That's what I did. (<-- luckily, new and awesome music has revivative powers.... is revivative a word? It ought to be.) On 6/12/07, Stacked Crooked wrote: > > what do you do when your favourite band releases a shitty album? it > occurs > to me that this has never happened to me before now. > > judas priest, my favourite band during the mid-'80s, were surpassed by > queensryche before they began releasing shitty albums. > > queensryche were surpassed by the egyptians before they began releasing > shitty albums. > > the egyptians broke up without ever releasing a shitty album. > > whereon, fave-band status redounded to sugar, who, like the egyptians > before them, broke up before releasing any shitty albums. > > TOOL then took up the mantle, to be surpassed, owing muchly to their > parsimonious output, by sleater-kinney. > > TOOL have yet to release a shitty album; and by the time sleater-kinney > broke up without ever having released a shitty album, the new > pornographers > had become, in my estimation, their equal. > > and now the new pornographers have released a shitty album, and i don't > know what to do. should i weep? should i self-flagellate? should i mush > a turd into the white-house lawn? > > what do you do when your favourite band releases a shitty album? > > > by the way, i learned the word "parsimonious" when a customer wrote on a > comment card that the restaurant offered "parsimonious salad fixings". i > actually had to look it up, as it wasn't clear from the context what it > might've meant. that was many years ago, but until to-day, i had never > used it in a sentence. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #235 ********************************