From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #216 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, May 26 2007 Volume 16 : Number 216 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: 101 uses for a dead cat topic [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Ra-da-ga-goooo-ca! ["Gene Hopstetter Jr." ] Re: Stynx ["Gene Hopstetter Jr." ] Re: i don't know about this... [Barbara Soutar ] Re: Don't bogart that list part 2 ["Mark P" ] Re: Don't bogart that list part 2 ["Michael Sweeney" ] Re: Don't bogart that list part 2 ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] favourite robyn lines ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Reap [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: 101 uses for a dead cat topic ["Michael Sweeney" ] Re: Don't bogart that list part 2 [Rex ] Re: favourite robyn lines [kevin ] RE: i don't know about this... ["Brian Huddell" ] for Rush fans [2fs ] Re: Don't bogart that list part 2 [michaeljbachman@comcast.net] PF by RH (from madcaps) [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] PF clips [HwyCDRrev@aol.com] Re: Don't bogart that list part 2 [Rex ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 08:02:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: 101 uses for a dead cat topic Elizabeth Schwarzkopf Michael Sweeney wrote: > ...OK -- to stir up the silence: the promised next hint... > > The song mentioning the 3rd dead-last-summer real-life person is > on... > > Greatest Hits - Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians > > ...And, no, it's not "Beatle Dennis" (who would be, what?, the 7th > or 8th > Beatle?) (all I know is that Ringo will always be "the undisputed > 4th > Beatle" to me...) or Vera Lynn. > > > Michael "The 'joke' / reference / 'stinger' is below this time" > Sweeney > "There's a house burning down on the radio" - hey, along with the > name check > in "Freeze," I believe that's another D. Byrne / T. Heads > reference... > > _________________________________________________________________ > More photos, more messages, more storageget 2GB with Windows Live > Hotmail. > http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507 > "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 10:19:22 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter Jr." Subject: Re: Ra-da-ga-goooo-ca! > From: "Lauren Elizabeth" > > i'm wondering what qualities make a song a good pot song. I am told that interesting side effects, panning, unusual sounds make a good pot song. Said people also recommend hazy or cosmic subject matter that describes camaraderie or analgesia. That Robyn guy: Pit of Souls (listen for the crackling paper bag) Messages of Dark ("vibrating messages of dark" over washes of Moog) Mr. Deadly ("and all your little children will be sticky little mushrooms in a field...") Interstellar Overdrive -- The Pink Floyd -- it's all about the panning ALL of Brainticket's "Psychonaut" album, especially "Like A Place in the Sun" and "Radagaguca" ALL of Khan's "Space Shanty" -- such groovy vibes "You and Me and Rainbows" -- The Tear Garden Anything by the Legendary Pink Dots ("dragons walked the Earth again and parrafin was free.") Hello? And I am told that many people are positive that Porcupine Tree's "The Sky Moves Sideways" was recorded specifically for this sort of activity. Rush: Side 1 of Hemispheres, side 2 of Caress of Steel. "By-Tor and the Snow Dog" may as well be subtitled "Lerxst packs another bowl. Dirk performs a dainty ballet with his platform shoes, curtained by his satin shirt. Neal quietly and thoughtfully chomps on Fritos and scribbles in an edition of 'Moby Dick'." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 10:01:55 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter Jr." Subject: Re: Stynx > From: 2fs > Subject: Re: Don't bogart that list part 2 > > Just about everything about Styx seems smarmily calculated and > stupid on top of that. Get outta here. That's crazy talk. Case in point: "Plexiglass Toilet Song" . ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 12:35:05 -0400 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: Re: i don't know about this... 60 year olds having twins... not a good idea as far as I can see. Oh, it's great trick and all. But "empowering women"? A typo for sure. From the story I see that not only does she already have some kids in their mid 30's but she has a 6 year old as well! So she's already done a neat trick. So she got pregnant at my current age of 53! Unthinkable! On another topic, I also hate pot. And I gave it a good shot too, from about 1975 to 1980. Turned out it was not my thing. Barbara Soutar Victoria, BC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 13:03:37 -0400 From: "Mark P" Subject: Re: Don't bogart that list part 2 Mssr 2fs sez - >>I'm not sure why, but for me Styx is one of the most purely *irritating* bands ever. Just about everything about them seems smarmily calculated and stupid on top of that. So, to sum up: I do not like Styx.<< To which I feel the urge to reply - I never liked 'em, never owned anything by 'em but I saw them more than about any band for a window back in the 70s as they opened for everybody. So. You ain't experienced the fine art of drugging concert going if you ain't experienced at minimum one historic UBER pretentious Styx laugh-fest ...especially the bit in EVERY show back then when that too tall James Young dude would chase the impen Tommy Shaw...chase him all over the stage. That used to crack me up even when I suffered through one of their sets sober! TRUE entertainment after a trip down to the subterranean bathrooms opium den down the old Academy Of Muzak Palladium now a PC Richard NYU dorms on 14th St in NYC. Levitated back up that LONGASSED flight o'stairs many a evening. You'd more often than not catch a contact high midway down. Man, that was a great place to see bands! Mark ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 18:35:09 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: Don't bogart that list part 2 Jeff Norman sez: >basically, Styx was kinda like if you took >a band like REO Speedwagon (polished, chart-ready pop with vaguely rockish >pretensions) and mixed it with the occasional slight progginess derived >from >Kansas or somebody (stupid keyboards and occasional time-signature >switches) >and hired a singer who quite obviously would rather have been singing >Broadway musicals (which is what he ended up doing) and then made songs >with >condescending lyrics that often assured its teenage audience that they were >cool, really. ...Wow -- what a pretty-perfect distillation of the general horror that is Styx! Add the fact that sometimes the dressed alike (in outfits that made them look like the banjo-playing waiters from Shakey's Pizza)... >I'm not sure why, but for me Styx is one of the most purely *irritating* >bands ever. Just about everything about them seems smarmily calculated and >stupid on top of that. Living in the Chicago-area's southern suburbs in the '70s, nearly everyone had a "Styx played at my / my older brothers' / my school's prom" story. Luckily, I missed them playing live at (say) a random pep rally or jr. high soda-pop sock-hop...but DID have to endure plenty o' them on Chicago radio (faux hometown pride and all)... Dennis DeYoung remains quite the object of derision among hipsters around here to this day... Michael Sweeney ...All that said, I DO kinda like "Too Much Time on My Hands" (but approx. ZERO other Styx songs)... - - -- ...Jeff Norman _________________________________________________________________ PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best Web mailaward-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 18:41:01 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #214 James said: >>None of which truly helps us solve the Sweeney Conundrum. > >Is Hal "Briggs" Holbrook still with us? Or Carl "Kung fu fighting" Douglas? >Or is there some connection I cannot see to Don Ho, Freddy Fender or Aaron >Spelling? Semi-hint: The person in question IS referred to by name (rather than a character they played or via a song (or book or etc.) they had written / created)... ...And it's a great big "No" to Ho. Michael "Remember, I'm going through the digest, so someone may have already solved it a few scrolls down...)" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best Web mailaward-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 18:54:52 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: Don't bogart that list part 2 Rex wrote: >On 5/24/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: >> >>Michael Wells says: >>>Of course there's an argument that these are all good tunes *anyway*, >>>but it is a proven fact that these particular ones sound better on the >>>doobage. >> >>okay, i'll admit it, i hate pot. > >(raises hand again) > >Me, too. I think I'm allergic to it. Some people react to this news by >saying that they feel sorry for me, but they shouldn't... I don't feel >like >I'm missing anything other than an unpleasant coma. My "problem" (such as it was) in my younger, more reckless days, was that I never got much effect (in fact, just about nothing, 'cept maybe 1 or 2 times) out of smoking pot... Other drugs, yes (and "ohhhh, yesssss!!!," in some cases), but pot -- even after plenty of exposure -- not so much... Michael "And, sadly, bourbon's not working as well as it used to these days, either" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Make every IM count. Download Messenger and join the im Initiative now. Its free. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_MAY07 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 14:53:02 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Don't bogart that list part 2 On 5/25/07, Michael Sweeney wrote: > > > My "problem" (such as it was) in my younger, more reckless days, was that > I > never got much effect (in fact, just about nothing, 'cept maybe 1 or 2 > times) out of smoking pot... Same here. Probably explains my lack of affection for Styx ;-) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 15:53:37 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Don't bogart that list part 2 Michael Sweeney says: > Rex wrote: > >Me, too. I think I'm allergic to it. Some people react to this news by > >saying that they feel sorry for me, but they shouldn't... I don't feel > >like > >I'm missing anything other than an unpleasant coma. > > My "problem" (such as it was) in my younger, more reckless days, was that I > never got much effect (in fact, just about nothing, 'cept maybe 1 or 2 > times) out of smoking pot... i guess pot is pretty versatile; my reaction was more like, okay, reality's weird enough as it is - why add to the mess? along those lines, i like the part in the sundance documentary where robyn is talking about "the shock of existence." i think that aspect of his songs is one of things that most appeals to me about them - he is still rather surprised that he exists. i like how that boy thinks. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 13:42:09 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Don't bogart that list part 2 On May 25, 2007, at 11:54 AM, Michael Sweeney wrote: >>> >>> okay, i'll admit it, i hate pot. >> >> (raises hand again) >> >> Me, too. I think I'm allergic to it. Some people react to this >> news by >> saying that they feel sorry for me, but they shouldn't... I don't >> feel like >> I'm missing anything other than an unpleasant coma. > > My "problem" (such as it was) in my younger, more reckless days, > was that I never got much effect (in fact, just about nothing, > 'cept maybe 1 or 2 times) out of smoking pot... I've always got some lying around, but only occasionally indulge. Usually as a nightcap after a night of cocktails. Otherwise I get really self conscious and actually physically weak (might have something to do with the smoke, as the even rarer cigarette has a similar effect). > > Other drugs, yes (and "ohhhh, yesssss!!!," in some cases), but pot > -- even after plenty of exposure -- not so much... > Man, last summer I took a Vicodin (left over from an uneventful wisdom tooth extraction) and slammed a beer before heading out to our town street party. I swear I was the happiest person there. I can really see how people get addicted to painkillers. > > Michael "And, sadly, bourbon's not working as well as it used to > these days, either" Sweeney Been digging the homemade margaritas and Collins' lately. Summertime and all... ...and this Grinderman album is just kicking my ass! - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 17:39:09 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: favourite robyn lines Mike Godwin says: > PS For all you fegaholics, what are your favourite single lines in his songs? > My current fave is 'I'm going to burn your bongos tonight'. But I have > strong principles - if you don't like that line I can soon change it > for another one... this is an old thread, sorry but at least there are places to put things around here. this has been going in and out of my head for awhile. it's more than one line, but that's okay (at least to me): "buzz aldrin took me by hand and said one day that i'd be rich i think he meant that i was going to be your lover in his lifetime." robyn writes a hell of a love song so sometimes it's hard to notice one thing over the other, but i always thought this was very sweet and kind of breathtaking. maybe because the first part is so big in a way, and the second part so personal and small. or maybe that's the other way around. and say what you will about the u.s. government - i have a place in my heart for NASA. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 16:32:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Reap Dr. Tod H. Mikuriya http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-mikuriya25may25,0,6466480.story?coll=la-home-obituaries His sister, Mary Jane survives. "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 01:55:09 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: 101 uses for a dead cat topic Rex wrote: >On 5/24/07, Michael Sweeney wrote: >> >>...OK -- to stir up the silence: the promised next hint... >> >>The song mentioning the 3rd dead-last-summer real-life person is on... >> >>Greatest Hits - Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians > >"The Byrds"? There certainly are a lot of dead ones, but that can't be it. Nope -- not a collective or group of any sort; it's an individual. Michael Sweeney There IS an answer...and it's not even any sort of a trick one... _________________________________________________________________ Like the way Microsoft Office Outlook works? Youll love Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_outlook_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 19:03:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: 101 uses for a dead cat topic Michael Sweeney wrote: > ...OK -- to stir up the silence: the promised next hint... > The song mentioning the 3rd dead-last-summer real-life person is > on... > > Greatest Hits - Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians Elizabeth Schwartzkopf? "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . ____________________________________________________________________________________Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 19:28:07 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Don't bogart that list part 2 On 5/25/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > > i guess pot is pretty versatile; my reaction was more like, okay, > reality's weird enough as it is - why add to the mess? That's reason 1 why I'd never mess with psychedelics. Reason 2 is that my mind is wired up oddly enough already; reason 3, of course, is terror of never coming back. Pot seems to have a lot less to do with altering actual perception. It just seems, for the people on whom it works, to make boring shit seem funny. Which is easy enough to do in other, less stinkier ways. i'm starting to think that the girls you know are girls who like all > the stuff that guys like; i mean, don't say this to their faces or > anything, but they're what's known as "outlying data points." > A fair amount of them are lesbians, so there's that. But they don't like "all" the stuff that guys like... no big football or NASCAR fans among them. To the best of my knowledge. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 19:58:24 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: favourite robyn lines >Mike Godwin says: >> PS For all you fegaholics, what are your favourite single lines in his songs? >> My current fave is 'I'm going to burn your bongos tonight'. But I have >> strong principles - if you don't like that line I can soon change it >> for another one... Today's is I feel like a three-legged chinchilla/standing on a table so wide/I can't see over the side... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 12:09:55 -0500 From: "Brian Huddell" Subject: RE: i don't know about this... > On another topic, I also hate pot. And I gave it a good shot too, from > about 1975 to 1980. Well, see, you're only supposed to smoke it for a few minutes at a time, and then move on to other things like eating and laughing. But I admire your commitment! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 23:28:29 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: for Rush fans - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 11:57:00 +0000 From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: Re: Don't bogart that list part 2 - -------------- Original message -------------- From: Rex > On 5/25/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > > > > > i guess pot is pretty versatile; my reaction was more like, okay, > > reality's weird enough as it is - why add to the mess? > > > That's reason 1 why I'd never mess with psychedelics. Reason 2 is that my > mind is wired up oddly enough already; reason 3, of course, is terror of > never coming back. Pot seems to have a lot less to do with altering actual > perception. It just seems, for the people on whom it works, to make boring > shit seem funny. Which is easy enough to do in other, less stinkier ways. > I tried mescaline the first time I got high at age 17. That was the only time I ever tried psychedelics and it scared the crap out of me. I never wanted to try them again. After that I smoked pot a few times a year until I stopped 20 years ago this Summer. Half the time I would end up with a case a paranoia while buzzed, so I eventually gave it up. My ex-wife was a big pot smoker and it became a point of contention between us. > i'm starting to think that the girls you know are girls who like all > > the stuff that guys like; i mean, don't say this to their faces or > > anything, but they're what's known as "outlying data points." > > > > A fair amount of them are lesbians, so there's that. But they don't like > "all" the stuff that guys like... no big football or NASCAR fans among > them. To the best of my knowledge. > Rex, I suppose living where you do comes into play. If you were living in Atlanta or Charlotte, chances are that there would be more NASCAR fans among the girls you would know. I used to be a big F1 fan back in the 70's and 80's, but the cars are so ugly looking now I have totally lost interest. MJ Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 11:00:23 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: PF by RH (from madcaps) On May 26 1967 The Pink Floyd played the Empress Ballroom in Blackpool, Lancashire. plus here's a download of Robyn Hitchcock playing Pink Floyd songs: Arnold Layne Bike Chapter 24 Lucifer Sam Flaming Gnome Interstellar Overdrive Astronomy Domine Pow R Toc H See Emily Play _http://www.mediafirhttp://www.mediaht_ (http://www.mediafire.com/?1t2agjvjw4v) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 11:03:21 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: PF clips _http://www.brain-damage.co.uk/latest/seven-ages-of-rock-pink-floyd-featured-e pisode-this-weekend.html_ (http://www.brain-damage.co.uk/latest/seven-ages-of-rock-pink-floyd-featured-episode-this-weekend.html) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 11:28:03 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Don't bogart that list part 2 On 5/26/07, michaeljbachman@comcast.net wrote: > > > > > > > Rex, I suppose living where you do comes into play. If you were living in > Atlanta or Charlotte, chances are that there would be more NASCAR fans among > the girls you would know. > > You know, I really should stop using that as a boilerplate example of dumb-guy interests. I grew up in an area that's now NASCAR-crazy, but it wasn't nearly so pervasive when I left there 20 years ago. So I kinda forget that on a level playing field, interest in that stuff cuts across gender and intellectual lines in pretty much the same way that sports-watching in general does. Deduct two points from me. However, I don't think my Styx-fan friends were into watching sports much, either. So I'll take my points back. And what was the other guy-thing that I mentioned recently? (...) Ah, Donnie Darko. No, those girls weren't into sports either, but neither were they lesbians, now that I think about it. They were fairly girly girls, in fact, just a little LA-artsy. Okay, two more points off. I'll be more careful in the future. Yours &c. 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