From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #212 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, May 22 2007 Volume 16 : Number 212 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: a crisis of conscience ["Michael Sweeney" ] Re: another in the occasional series of music packaging posts ["Michael S] Re: reap [2fs ] My name is "Eb," and... ["Michael Sweeney" ] re: the devil's radio ["Michael Sweeney" ] Re: 101 uses for a dead cat topic ["Michael Sweeney" ] RE: 101 uses for a dead cat topic ["Michael Sweeney" ] for the math people here (I know there are a few...) [2fs ] Re: My name is "Eb," and... [Rex ] Re: a crisis of conscience ["Michael Sweeney" ] Re: reap [craigie* ] Re: 101 uses for a dead cat topic [craigie* ] Noble Rot (Hitchcock Re-releases) ["m swedene" ] Re: 101 uses for a dead cat topic ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: for the math people here (I know there are a few...) ["Lauren Elizabe] Re: My name is [kevin ] Re: for the math people here (I know there are a few...) [Tom Clark ] Re: for the math people here (I know there are a few...) [FSThomas ] Re: for the math people here (I know there are a few...) ["Lauren Elizabe] Re: for the math people here (I know there are a few...) [Tom Clark Subject: Re: a crisis of conscience Michael Wells wrote: >I think U2's 'Bad' may be a better song than Cheap Trick's >'Surrender'...previously thought (by me) to be the greatest rock song >in history. I'll probably flip back tomorrow, but that's what's up my >flagpole right now. Although I only lightly regard Cheap Trick (in general; although I have nothing against them  they have committed no Journey-like crimes upon the listening public), I, too, have an inordinate fondness for "Surrender," and think I would certainly rate it as perhaps One of the Greatest Rock Songs of All Time (That is Not One of My Extra-Top-Shelf Personal Favorites) (if such a qualification is even understandable beyond the precincts of my own careening cerebral cortex). Others in such a category would certainly include "Born To Run" and "Layla" (NOT, however, the newer, Perry Como-ized, sleep-along-wiff-Eric version) -- big "rawk" anthems that I have yet to tire of (and, at this late date, don't anticipate _ever_ doing so). "Street Fighting Man," "Clampdown," "London Calling," "Happy," and "Beautiful Day," too. At least a couple by Neil, probably, as well. Maybe even the ironically titled "Middle of the Road" (although I'm much more in tune with the far more cooler "Cuban Slide"). ...Oh, and I very much like "Bad" (AND "Running to Stand Still" and "Hold Me, Thrill Me, etc." even more too)... Michael "Hard not to mention anything by Pete Townshend (like, say, 'Can't Explain' or 'Love Reign O'er Me') -- who shares my birthday today (the 19th)...Happy 62nd, Pete (and 45th, me)!" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Make every IM count. Download Messenger and join the im Initiative now. Its free. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_MAY07 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 02:28:31 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: another in the occasional series of music packaging posts Stewart demoed: >Take about 10 seconds. No residual stickiness. You just have to have >skills. ...Did you mean "skillz"? Cuz, if so, I hearz you, manny, madly... Michael "Little Hands of Concrete (about a third-level, semi-meta-reference, so...enjoy it if ya get it!)" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Make every IM count. Download Messenger and join the im Initiative now. Its free. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_MAY07 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 21:32:58 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: reap On 5/21/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > a cautionary tale. > > runner, 53, ("He looked really fit'', says fellow runner): > > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/05/21/BAG7RPUKRC1.DTL According to that article, six runners have died in the last twelve years in either this race or the SF marathon. Somehow, that doesn't really seem like the sort of activity a city wants to be sponsoring. I can just imagine the outcry if they died in a contest to do something less socially accepted, like that radio station that had the contest to see who could drink the most water without having to pee (a woman died of overhydration, or whatever it's called when the body takes in more water than it can handle). Stupid humans, risking their lives for dumbass reasons... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 02:33:58 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: My name is "Eb," and... Eddie started: >My name is "Eb", and when I'm not watching *Big Blue Marble* on the teevee >screen, I'm...: "...trying to fish a small blue marble outta my left nostril"? Michael Sweeney ...And I luv knowing the differences between epigrams, epigraphs, and epitaphs... _________________________________________________________________ More photos, more messages, more storageget 2GB with Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 02:36:26 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: re: the devil's radio Lauren baked this little devilish cupcake: >kevin says: >>I have it on good authority that Satan is a huge Carpenters fan. > >i guess i'm with satan on that one then. ...I have always said that that family -- sadly -- had a semi-tragic closet problem: Karen collapsed and died in one...and Richard never came out of another one... Michael Sweeney ...And I _still_ remember the Playboy mag music poll in the late '70s that rated Karen Carpenter as the top drummer in "rock" music, over Bonham AND Moonie (although, of course, they all ended up in the same place, sorely ahead of their time(s)...) _________________________________________________________________ PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best Web mailaward-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 02:43:20 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: 101 uses for a dead cat topic Rex wrote: >On 5/19/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: >> >>>Sweeney says: >>>...But, last summer, three real-life people referenced in Robyn's songs >>>died >>>within about five weeks of each other: One very notable, one fairly >>>obscure, and one somewhat in-between (although probably known to nearly >>>everyone out here). >> >>i had it all figured out: >> >>the pope >>ronald reagan >>syd barrett > >Syd and Arthur Lee must be 2 out of three. Harrison Ford, Nick Lowe, and >Condoleeza Rice all still live; Nick Drake, Eazy E and HG Wells remain >dead, >so I'm not sure who #3 is. ...That's 1 for Lauren, 2 for Rex...and one more to be IDed (and it was an even shorter period than I first said -- about a 4 week span)... Michael Sweeney ...And, of course, Gene Hackman, Andie McDowell, and David Byrne (or somebody) also still survive. _________________________________________________________________ PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best Web mailaward-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 22:54:46 -0400 From: "m swedene" Subject: Robyn article (100% actual Robyn content!) I found this: http://timedoor.textdriven.com/ It is one of the blogs I read. They link to Bayard's old "Asking Tree" site and they have MP3s of the 3" single. enjoy! Mike "soon to be in Vegas.... but not Sweeney" Swedene ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 21:55:07 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: My name is "Eb," and... On 5/21/07, Michael Sweeney wrote: > > Eddie started: > > >My name is "Eb", and when I'm not watching *Big Blue Marble* on the > teevee > >screen, I'm...: > > "...trying to fish a small blue marble outta my left nostril"? Actually, it's a series of small blue marbles, connected via fishing line through tiny holes drilled in the marbles, being extracted from - well, somewhere. And I think you know where. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 02:55:42 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: RE: 101 uses for a dead cat topic MJ Bachman wrote: >Gram sang about three of his friends that died, two of whom were nationally >known, in the >song "In My Hour Of Darkness" without naming them. The third dead lyric personage is much more random -- and less part of Robyn's universe than Syd and Arthur... Michael Sweeney ...And, in another hint, the dead random person has a better-known (generally), still-living relative... _________________________________________________________________ More photos, more messages, more storageget 2GB with Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 23:08:08 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: My name is "Eb," and... 2fs says: > On 5/21/07, Michael Sweeney wrote: > > > > Eddie started: > > > > >My name is "Eb", and when I'm not watching *Big Blue Marble* on the > > teevee > > >screen, I'm...: > > > > "...trying to fish a small blue marble outta my left nostril"? > > > Actually, it's a series of small blue marbles, connected via fishing line > through tiny holes drilled in the marbles, being extracted from - well, > somewhere. > > And I think you know where. suzanne vega's ass? xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 23:27:31 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: for the math people here (I know there are a few...) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 21:30:25 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: a crisis of conscience On 5/21/07, Michael Sweeney wrote: > > Michael Wells wrote: > > >I think U2's 'Bad' may be a better song than Cheap Trick's > >'Surrender'...previously thought (by me) to be the greatest rock song > >in history. I'll probably flip back tomorrow, but that's what's up my > >flagpole right now. > > Although I only lightly regard Cheap Trick (in general; although I have > nothing against them  they have committed no Journey-like crimes upon the > listening public), I, too, have an inordinate fondness for "Surrender," > and > think I would certainly rate it as perhaps One of the Greatest Rock Songs > of > All Time (That is Not One of My Extra-Top-Shelf Personal Favorites) (if > such > a qualification is even understandable beyond the precincts of my own > careening cerebral cortex). I don't know why I didn't realize how popular this song was when I started (late) getting into Cheap Trick, but it seems to be one of the first songs I learned to sing and play all the way through. And it made me pretty cool in my stepdaughter's eyes when she asked me to play it for her (as in, dial it up in iTunes) and I instead picked up a guitar and went straight into it. I always want to sing the name of a cooler band than KISS in that third verse, but I've never found the perfect one. Used Wire for a while, but that got old. Mommy's alright... daddy... well, that's another story. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 21:33:03 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: My name is "Eb," and... On 5/21/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > 2fs says: > > On 5/21/07, Michael Sweeney wrote: > > > > > > Eddie started: > > > > > > >My name is "Eb", and when I'm not watching *Big Blue Marble* on the > > > teevee > > > >screen, I'm...: > > > > > > "...trying to fish a small blue marble outta my left nostril"? > > > > > > Actually, it's a series of small blue marbles, connected via fishing > line > > through tiny holes drilled in the marbles, being extracted from - well, > > somewhere. > > > > And I think you know where. > > suzanne vega's ass? Welcome to the non sequitir of the month club! Oh, wait I get it now... small blue thing... sorry... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 05:04:45 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: a crisis of conscience Rex wrote: >On 5/21/07, Michael Sweeney wrote: >> >>Michael Wells wrote: >> >> >I think U2's 'Bad' may be a better song than Cheap Trick's >> >'Surrender'...previously thought (by me) to be the greatest rock song >> >in history. I'll probably flip back tomorrow, but that's what's up my >> >flagpole right now. >> >>Although I only lightly regard Cheap Trick (in general; although I have >>nothing against them  they have committed no Journey-like crimes upon the >>listening public), I, too, have an inordinate fondness for "Surrender," >>and >>think I would certainly rate it as perhaps One of the Greatest Rock Songs >>of >>All Time (That is Not One of My Extra-Top-Shelf Personal Favorites) (if >>such >>a qualification is even understandable beyond the precincts of my own >>careening cerebral cortex). > >I don't know why I didn't realize how popular this song was when I started >(late) getting into Cheap Trick, but it seems to be one of the first songs >I >learned to sing and play all the way through. And it made me pretty cool >in >my stepdaughter's eyes when she asked me to play it for her (as in, dial it >up in iTunes) and I instead picked up a guitar and went straight into it. >I >always want to sing the name of a cooler band than KISS in that third >verse, >but I've never found the perfect one. Used Wire for a while, but that got >old. ...That, plus the name-check in "Heavy Metal Drummer" makes KISS cooler than they seem they hould be in other band's songs for more than a quarter-century now...damn... Michael "Never got into KISS, but 'Beth' still has a sort of cheesy ol' AM-radio appeal" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ More photos, more messages, more storageget 2GB with Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 11:27:26 +0100 From: craigie* Subject: Re: reap Paging Charles Darwin... Mr Darwin - call on line 1... On 22/05/07, 2fs wrote: > > > Stupid humans, risking their lives for dumbass reasons... - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 12:28:26 +0100 From: craigie* Subject: Re: 101 uses for a dead cat topic On 22/05/07, Michael Sweeney clued us: > > The third dead lyric personage is much more random -- and less part of > Robyn's universe than Syd and Arthur... Oh Noes! Balloon Man! Gone!! c* - - first things first, but not necessarily in that order... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 11:30:28 -0400 From: "m swedene" Subject: Noble Rot (Hitchcock Re-releases) http://www.infozine.com/news/stories/op/storiesView/sid/22899/ The first releases under the Noble Rot banner are reissues by Grant Lee Buffalo, Robyn Hitchcock, Hunters & Collectors and Yngwie Malmsteen, all with snazzy Digipak packaging. Street date for the initial rollout of six CDs is set for June 26, 2007. The following reissues inaugurate the birth of Noble Rot: Grant Lee Buffalo - Fuzzy: On this 1993 album, the eclectic Los Angeles rock indie rock outfit Grant Lee Buffalo delivered one of that year's most acclaimed debuts, with the band creating an eclectic, effortlessly accomplished sonic palette for leader Grant-Lee Phillips' lyrically vivid, melodically distinctive compositions. An early '90s alt-rock landmark, with new notes from Phillips. Grant Lee Buffalo - Copperopolis: The group's third album was their most ambitious and accomplished effort to date, with subtly adventurous arrangements that emphasize the lyrical and melodic strengths of leader Grant-Lee Phillips' epic yet intimate story-songs. Phillips contributed new liner notes for the reissue that set the scene. Robyn Hitchcock - Jewels for Sophia: From his days with the Soft Boys through his wildly inventive solo work, Robyn Hitchcock has captivated audiences on both sides of the Atlantic with a bewitching blend of psyche-pop and warped lyrical whimsy. Jewels for Sophia found Hitchcock delivering a dozen slices of his surreal songcraft, with help from a sprawling support cast that featured his old Soft Boys bandmate Kimberly Rew, R.E.M.'s Peter Buck, and members of the High Llamas, Grant Lee Buffalo, the Fastbacks and the Young Fresh Fellows. Robyn Hitchcock - Storefront Hitchcock: Hitchcock's public profile received a boost in 1998 when noted filmmaker and longtime fan Jonathan Demme paid tribute to the artist with the feature-length performance film Storefront Hitchcock. The project also included a companion album, which features a spare live performance of 11 Hitchcock originals along with a twisted cover of Jimi Hendrix's "The Wind Cries Mary." AllMusic.com called Storefront Hitchcock a "dictionary definition, jaw-dropping live singer/songwriter album." Hunters & Collectors - Ghost Nation: Australia's Hunters & Collectors were already an established star attraction in their homeland when they released Ghost Nation in 1990. By then, the Melbourne combo's forceful sound had evolved from the goth-funk category of their early releases to a more accessible approach that emphasized the melodic strengths of frontman Mark Seymour's moody, thoughtful songwriting. Yngwie Malmsteen - Fire & Ice: By the time he released "Fire & Ice" in 1991, Yngwie Malmsteen was established as one of heavy metal's reigning guitar gods, and was considered by many to be the most technically accomplished axmen in hard rock. The self-produced Fire & Ice combines the baroque classicism of his early work with more commercially oriented material, resulting in a memorable showcase for the Swedish shred king's lightning fretwork. According to Collectors' Choice Music general manager Gordon Anderson, "There are a ton of albums from the '80s and '90s that deserve to be in print but are not, and a lot of them you can't find digitally, either. We started Noble Rot to rescue those records from undeserved oblivion, and, just like with our Collectors' Choice Music label, we're open to suggestions from our constituency, namely music lovers, and, yes, even from music journalists!" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 12:23:23 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: 101 uses for a dead cat topic Sweeney says: > ...But, last summer, three real-life people referenced in Robyn's songs died > within about five weeks of each other: One very notable, one fairly > obscure, and one somewhat in-between (although probably known to nearly > everyone out here). not exactly a person, but whatever: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/08/060824-pluto-planet.html i'm not sure what the official reap date was, but it looks around the right time. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 12:27:41 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: My name is "Eb," and... Rex says: > On 5/21/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > suzanne vega's ass? > > Welcome to the non sequitir of the month club! > > Oh, wait I get it now... small blue thing... sorry... oops, i had the title a bit off - i thought it was called "small blue marble" but the sentiment was right. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 12:48:32 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: for the math people here (I know there are a few...) 2fs says: > a few weeks ago on one of the computers at school, i saw that site bookmarked and meant to bookmark it (or at least remember its existence) when i got home. and here it is again. yay. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 10:09:00 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: My name is >Michael Sweeney >...And I luv knowing the differences between epigrams, epigraphs, and >epitaphs... > Spirochetes and spirographs? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 11:11:10 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: for the math people here (I know there are a few...) On May 22, 2007, at 9:48 AM, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > 2fs says: >> > > a few weeks ago on one of the computers at school, i saw that site > bookmarked and meant to bookmark it (or at least remember its > existence) when i got home. > > and here it is again. yay. This is a very popular t-shirt in my part of the world: http://xkcd.com/c149.html - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 18:36:04 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: My name is Kevin: > >Michael Sweeney > >...And I luv knowing the differences between epigrams, epigraphs, and > >epitaphs... > > >Spirochetes and spirographs? ...Not to mention spiroagnews... Michael "1974" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best Web mailaward-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 14:49:36 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: for the math people here (I know there are a few...) Tom Clark wrote: > This is a very popular t-shirt in my part of the world: > http://xkcd.com/c149.html Now this: http://xkcd.com/c138.html is funny. - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 15:05:56 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: for the math people here (I know there are a few...) And of course there's always this one: http://xkcd.com/c261.html - -f. /must ... get back to ... work ... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 12:56:26 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: My name is >>Spirochetes and spirographs? > >...Not to mention spiroagnews... > No spiroagnews is good...well, you know. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 16:19:57 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: for the math people here (I know there are a few...) FSThomas says: > Now this: > > http://xkcd.com/c138.html > > is funny. pointers are funny. well, when they aren't busy ruining your life. once at work we were debugging and found a pointer value of 0xBADDF00D. it amused us for years. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 14:06:22 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: for the math people here (I know there are a few...) On May 22, 2007, at 1:19 PM, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > FSThomas says: >> Now this: >> >> http://xkcd.com/c138.html >> >> is funny. > > pointers are funny. well, when they aren't busy ruining your life. > once at work we were debugging and found a pointer value of > 0xBADDF00D. it amused us for years. Isn't is 0xBAADF00D? That's some kind of Windows memory value I think. On PPC Mac OS X systems you'll see 0xDEADBEEF and 0xBEEFDEAD bounding malloc'd buffers in debug mode. Again, not necessarily pointers, but... - -tc, and don't even get me started about EIEIO ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 17:11:28 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: for the math people here (I know there are a few...) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Elizabeth Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 4:20 PM To: a sweet little cupcake...baked by the devil! Subject: Re: for the math people here (I know there are a few...) FSThomas says: >> Now this: >> >> http://xkcd.com/c138.html >> >> is funny. Our Lauren wrote: >pointers are funny. well, when they aren't busy ruining your life. >once at work we were debugging and found a pointer value of 0xBADDF00D. it amused us for years. Sounds like the typical bill of fare at a hospital. MJ Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 16:52:24 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: for the math people here (I know there are a few...) On 5/22/07, Tom Clark wrote: > > > > pointers are funny. well, when they aren't busy ruining your life. > > once at work we were debugging and found a pointer value of > > 0xBADDF00D. it amused us for years. > > Isn't is 0xBAADF00D? That's one of those grunge "dropped" guitar tunings, no? On one of those fancy-ass ten-string guitars with the two lower heavy-gauge strings... The 0 and the x indicate, respectively, completely slackening the string, for percussive effect, and omitting the string entirely. I'm working way too hard on this "joke," right? - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 15:06:22 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: for the math people here (I know there are a few...) On May 22, 2007, at 2:52 PM, 2fs wrote: > On 5/22/07, Tom Clark wrote: >> >>> pointers are funny. well, when they aren't busy ruining your life. >>> once at work we were debugging and found a pointer value of >>> 0xBADDF00D. it amused us for years. >> >> Isn't is 0xBAADF00D? > > That's one of those grunge "dropped" guitar tunings, no? On one of > those > fancy-ass ten-string guitars with the two lower heavy-gauge > strings... The 0 > and the x indicate, respectively, completely slackening the string, > for > percussive effect, and omitting the string entirely. > > I'm working way too hard on this "joke," right? 0x596573 - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 17:50:52 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: for the math people here (I know there are a few...) On 5/22/07, Tom Clark wrote: > > On May 22, 2007, at 2:52 PM, 2fs wrote: > > > On 5/22/07, Tom Clark wrote: > >> > >>> pointers are funny. well, when they aren't busy ruining your life. > >>> once at work we were debugging and found a pointer value of > >>> 0xBADDF00D. it amused us for years. > >> > >> Isn't is 0xBAADF00D? > > > > That's one of those grunge "dropped" guitar tunings, no? On one of > > those > > fancy-ass ten-string guitars with the two lower heavy-gauge > > strings... The 0 > > and the x indicate, respectively, completely slackening the string, > > for > > percussive effect, and omitting the string entirely. > > > > I'm working way too hard on this "joke," right? > > 0x596573 Fuck you, Tom Clark. (heh heh) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 18:59:37 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: for the math people here (I know there are a few...) Tom Clark says: > On May 22, 2007, at 1:19 PM, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > pointers are funny. well, when they aren't busy ruining your life. > > once at work we were debugging and found a pointer value of > > 0xBADDF00D. it amused us for years. > > Isn't is 0xBAADF00D? That's some kind of Windows memory value I > think. On PPC Mac OS X systems you'll see 0xDEADBEEF and 0xBEEFDEAD > bounding malloc'd buffers in debug mode. Again, not necessarily > pointers, but... i'm sure you are right, but note to self: be embarrassed for bowing to a Mac guy. xo p.s. i can't even say "i'm a mathematician, dammit, not a computer scientist" since i am now actually studying computer science. p.p.s. i'm a computer scientist, dammit, not a software engineer. - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #212 ********************************