From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #196 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, May 9 2007 Volume 16 : Number 196 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: fegmaniax-digest V16 #193 [kevin ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #193 ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: young and tingly ["Gene Hopstetter Jr." ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #194 ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] RE: fegmaniax-digest V16 #193 ["Bachman, Michael" ] RE: fegmaniax-digest V16 #193 [kevin ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #193 ["Michael Sweeney" ] Re: Leslie Caron [hssmrg@bath.ac.uk] re: Roky @ Coachella and other stuff ["Marc Holden" ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #193 [Rex ] Re: Roky @ Coachella and other stuff [Rex ] like you're dying to know what I listened to for the first time yesterday... [Rex ] Re: young and tingly [craigie* ] Re: young and tingly [craigie* ] RE: Leslie Caron ["Bachman, Michael" ] RE: fegmaniax-digest V16 #193 ["Bachman, Michael" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 09:25:28 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V16 #193 >Regarding 60's movie stars then, Elke Sommer from the Swedish >contingent, Ursula Andress from the German contingent, Leslie Carron >from the French contingent, Sophia Loren from the Italian and a special >mention to Julie Christie from the UK. Catherine Deneuve doesn't rate? Not to mention Kim Novak, or... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 12:49:34 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #193 Rex says: > This is tough. Did nobody else have childhood friends who would mock you > mercilessly for your TV crushes? I did, so I never confessed 'em, and have > thus mostly forgotten them. all my childhood friends were boys** so i guess they were too busy teasing each other. xo ** well except one who was of course the coolest girl ever. - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 10:53:15 -0500 From: "Gene Hopstetter Jr." Subject: Re: young and tingly > From: "Michael Wells" > >> Emma Peel on the Avengers. Really no other contenders. > > Hrm. Still won't stand a candle next to Lynda Carter. Good GOD that > was > a sight to make a young man spontaneously combust. I'd stand my candle next to Linda Gray as Col. Wilma Deering (http:// tinyurl.com/2b8eur, http://tinyurl.com/246xtj, http://tinyurl.com/ 2dvqos). Keywords: blue spandex body suit.. Tight, tight blue spandex body suit.. Tight, tight, tight blue spandex body suit. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 12:54:15 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #194 james says: > Octopodes are pretty damn smart in general, though, though NZ's > smartest non primate/non cetacean is the kea, an alpine parrot that > only needs an opposable thumb to launch its plans for world > domination (see > about > this bird, though I could tell a few stories about it myself if > pressed...) i have a feeling that the article doesn't do your kea friends justice. so, please, tell us a story or two... xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 13:01:39 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V16 #193 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of kevin Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 12:25 PM To: Bachman, Michael; Rex; grutness@slingshot.co.nz Cc: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V16 #193 >>Regarding 60's movie stars then, Elke Sommer from the Swedish >>contingent, Ursula Andress from the German contingent, Leslie Carron >>from the French contingent, Sophia Loren from the Italian and a special >mention to Julie Christie from the UK. >Catherine Deneuve doesn't rate? She would in hindsight, although I didn't know about her when I was growing up in the 60's. I also wasn't aware of Anna Karina, or some of the other French New Wave stars of the day. I should have added Bridget Bardot though, as I was certainly aware of her. >Not to mention Kim Novak, or... Not foreign to the best of my knowledge. Lee Remick was my favorite US Actress in the 60's. Robert Forster of The Go-Betweens liked her as well and even wrote a song about her. MJB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 10:03:36 -0700 From: "vivien lyon" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #194 I'll second that. Supersmart birds fascinate me. On 5/8/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > james says: > > Octopodes are pretty damn smart in general, though, though NZ's > > smartest non primate/non cetacean is the kea, an alpine parrot that > > only needs an opposable thumb to launch its plans for world > > domination (see > > about > > this bird, though I could tell a few stories about it myself if > > pressed...) > > i have a feeling that the article doesn't do your kea friends justice. > so, please, tell us a story or two... > > xo > > -- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." > > - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 10:20:46 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V16 #193 >>Not to mention Kim Novak, or... >Not foreign to the best of my knowledge. You're right there. I always lump her in with the Brits since she's mostly based there. Maybe sort of bi-coastal. Or would that be bi-continental? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 17:30:33 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #193 Tom Clark wrote: >On May 7, 2007, at 11:33 AM, kevin wrote: > >>>>>PS - is it possible I sense a thread on childhood TV crushes >>>>>developing? >> >>Emma Peel on the Avengers. Really no other contenders. > >While Emma wins hands down, I'd say Julie Newmar as Catwoman is a strong >contender. Oooh - good one...Eartha Kitt was (sadly, in retrospect) a distant 2nd in the Catwoman derby (and Lee Meriwether was a frickin' non-starter...Burt Ward was probably sexier than her). Michael "Uh, Burt Ward comment for comedy's sake only" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best Web mailaward-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 11:16:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #193 Michael Sweeney wrote: > Tom Clark wrote: > >While Emma wins hands down, I'd say Julie Newmar as Catwoman is a > >strong contender. > > Oooh - good one...Eartha Kitt was (sadly, in retrospect) a distant > 2nd in the Catwoman derby (and Lee Meriwether was a frickin' > non-starter...Burt Ward was probably sexier than her). Well, they did supposedly have to use a lot of extra padding in Burt Ward's Robin outfit to hide his Grayson. "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . ____________________________________________________________________________________ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 22:11:05 +0100 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Re: Leslie Caron Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 15:25:02 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V16 #193 - - --On 8. Mai 2007 09:19:40 -0400 "Bachman, Michael" wrote: > Regarding 60's movie stars then, Elke Sommer from the Swedish > contingent, Ursula Andress from the German contingent, Leslie Carron > from the French contingent, Sophia Loren from the Italian and a special > mention to Julie Christie from the UK. You are confused! Elke Sommer is German and Ursula Andress is Swiss. I don't even know Leslie Carron. * Leslie Caron memorably partnered Gene Kelly in the 'American in Paris' ballet sequence and has 64 entries in imdb . "I'm not a ballerina. I'm a hoofer" (quoting Gene Kelly, I think). - - Mike G. PS Obviously no-one else on this list goes back as far as Steed's first 43 episodes with Honor Blackman as Cathy Gale... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 16:38:59 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: re: Roky @ Coachella and other stuff Rex asked again: >On the other hand, still eagerly awaiting Marc's comments on Roky at >Coachella. You didn't got to Stagecoach, too, did ya, pardner? Sorry about the delay, but it's been a crazy week--getting things squared away before starting a new position at work. Stagecoach would have been nice--look at the Palomino Stage line-up (looks like they put their headliners on in the 7:15 slots to avoid conflicts with the "Mane" Stage headliners. So Neko Case was the final act, first day, rather than Willie Nelson): http://stagecoachfestival.com/event/set-times Anyway, about Roky, because of his timeslot, it was a slightly shorter set than when I saw him in Austin a year and a half ago. Back in Austin, Roky seemed fairly fragile and timid (it was his first full show in 20 years), and his guitarist, Cam King, encouraged him and guided Roky through the show. He seems much more confident now, and his guitar playing especially is sounding good. Vocally, he has cut some of the dynamics out, like during Red Temple Prayer (Two-Headed Dog) he doesn't go into the higher vocal range freak-out that he did on the original or on live recordings from around that time. But still, his voice sounded good without getting overly strained. He really only let a bit loose during You're Gonna Miss Me. He didn't talk much to the audience other than the frequent "thank you"s between songs. They went a bit light on the 13th Floor Elevators era material (YGMM, Splash 1, and a cover of Buddy Holly's "I'm Gonna Love You, Too") and focused mostly on his '70's solo stuff (White Faces, A Cold Night For Alligators, Starry Eyes, Bermuda, RTP, Don't Shake Me Lucifer, the Beast, etc.) This set alone was worth every bit of effort to get to Coachella this year (but the Arcade Fire put on the best set of the festival). Stewart inquired: >Has anyone else been to a Daniel Johnston gig, and got the >feeling that the rest of the crowd are mostly sick bastards >who want him to do something crazy on stage? I walked >out of the Toronto show last night for that very reason. I'm really looking forward to seeing Daniel someday, but that kind of attitude from the crowd would really bug me, too. It's bad enough when people are just there to hear a particular song and even worse when all they want is the band's gimmicks rather than to hear the music. It's hard for me to think of going to see someone for the "freakshow" aspect of things (other than wanting to see the Shaggs). I'd be one of the first to admit that I'm a big fan of some really "out there" people (Wesley Willis, Roky, Syd Barrett, Nick Drake, Iggy Pop, Crispen Glover, etc.), but I really like the fact that they've taken difficult circumstances and made them better through their musical efforts--these seem like honest and unguarded works to me, people really wanting to press themselves, rather than looking for money and hits. If anyone is curious about Daniel his "Discovered Covered" CD is a great place to start--one disc of established artists doing Daniel's songs, and a second disc of Daniel's originals. Check it out if you haven't yet, Marc bonus video for anyone who made it this far: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC976ydqE3g "I read somewhere that 77 per cent of all the mentally ill live in poverty. Actually, I'm more intrigued by the 23 per cent who are apparently doing quite well for themselves." Emo Philips ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 17:48:24 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #193 On 5/8/07, Bachman, Michael though, as I was certainly aware of her. >Not to mention Kim Novak, or... Not foreign to the best of my knowledge. Lee Remick was my favorite US Actress in the 60's. Robert Forster of The Go-Betweens liked her as well and even wrote a song about her. She's a darling. (I think that's my favorite actress-crush song ever of all time in history.) - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 17:52:55 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Roky @ Coachella and other stuff On 5/8/07, Marc Holden wrote: > > > > Anyway, about Roky, [--] This set alone > was worth every bit of effort to get to Coachella this year (but the > Arcade > Fire put on the best set of the festival). I can easily believe both of those things. It seems like it would be really hard to dislike Arcade Fire. Thanks for the Roky details... it would be really cool to get to see him, and that makes me hopeful. Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 18:05:47 -0700 From: Rex Subject: like you're dying to know what I listened to for the first time yesterday... Oooh, it feels good to write one of those Laurenesque subject lines. Anyways, so I finally heard the American Music Club reunion album from a few years back, and holy damn, it make your average Nick Cave record sound like Frente! or something. AMC was never exactly "up" music, but this one made me really quite worried for Mark Eitzel's... well, not his mental health so much as his *life*. Pretty harrowing, perhaps germane to the Daniel Johnston thread. Which reminds me of two other things, one being that I haven't listened enough to the new record by the National, who often remind me of AMC, but I did like it on the first two passes.* The other is that I totally forgot to mention AMC in the "best opening acts" thread. I saw them open for Billy Bragg (with Disposible Heroes of Hiphoprisy in between-- kinda weird), and, while I'd read good things about them, I expected (probably, stupidly, because of their name) something in the neighborhood of NRBQ. But being really into a number of dream-pop bands at the time, I was pretty floored by what struck me as a fusion of country and shoegaze sounds (but with way better lyrics than any actual shoegaze act ever approached). "Everclear" remains a classic for me. - -Rex *am I right in thinking that the National features a non-instrument-playing lead singer? Because if so, they join Art Brut as the only bands with such a lineup that I've fully embraced as "favorites" in a long, long, long time. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 13:07:42 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V16 #193 > >Regarding 60's movie stars then, Elke Sommer from the Swedish >>contingent, Ursula Andress from the German contingent, Leslie Carron >>from the French contingent, Sophia Loren from the Italian and a >>special >mention to Julie Christie from the UK. > >Catherine Deneuve doesn't rate? Not to mention Kim Novak, or... Catherine was gorgeous, but not as much so as her late, lamented sister, the stunning Francoise Dorleac. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 13:13:16 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #195 >Oh, for sure on Diana Rigg...and didja know that her iconic "Avengers" >heroine was (supposedly; perhaps certainly; maybe apocryphally?) named for >her "M[ale] Appeal"? Or perhaps that just naturally flowed from the name... > >...But, of course, now we know that her "F[emale] Appeal" was also not >inconsiderable... As UI heard it it wasn't so much "male appeal" as being a play on the name of James Bond's boss "M", but with appeal. Dignan, James Dignan - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 21:05:25 -0700 From: Rex Subject: (can't think of good fire-related RH lyric, but pretend one is here) Griffith Park is, like, totally on fire, making the the fieriest night I've personally experienced in Los Angeles since the riots. On the kinda-cool side, fire-fighting helicopters are loading up on water by dipping it out of the Silver Lake reservoir, which is also, functionally, my front yard. On the uncool side, they'll probably keep doing so all night. Apocalypse Now-related nightmares, here I come! We're not in any danger; it's just that the world smells like a barbecue pit. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 00:51:33 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #193 james says: > Catherine was gorgeous, but not as much so as her late, lamented > sister, the stunning Francoise Dorleac. oh you can all stop pretending, this is THE THREAD OF WOMEN. xo p.s. monica vitti. - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 09:33:38 +0100 From: craigie* Subject: Re: young and tingly ooh! OOH! beedly beedly! mmmmmm..... Wilma Deering.... c* On 08/05/07, Gene Hopstetter Jr. wrote: > > > From: "Michael Wells" > > > >> Emma Peel on the Avengers. Really no other contenders. > > > > Hrm. Still won't stand a candle next to Lynda Carter. Good GOD that > > was > > a sight to make a young man spontaneously combust. > > I'd stand my candle next to Linda Gray as Col. Wilma Deering (http:// > tinyurl.com/2b8eur, http://tinyurl.com/246xtj, http://tinyurl.com/ > 2dvqos). > > Keywords: blue spandex body suit.. Tight, tight blue spandex body > suit.. Tight, tight, tight blue spandex body suit. > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 09:37:32 +0100 From: craigie* Subject: Re: young and tingly but that's ERIN Gray (see also Dr Holly Goodhead in "Moonraker") wasn't Linda Gray in Dallas or Dynasty or something... and not in the same league IIRC... BIG shoulderpads (real shoulderpads - not a euphemism for ladybumps) c* On 08/05/07, Gene Hopstetter Jr. wrote: > > > From: "Michael Wells" > > > >> Emma Peel on the Avengers. Really no other contenders. > > > > Hrm. Still won't stand a candle next to Lynda Carter. Good GOD that > > was > > a sight to make a young man spontaneously combust. > > I'd stand my candle next to Linda Gray as Col. Wilma Deering (http:// > tinyurl.com/2b8eur, http://tinyurl.com/246xtj, http://tinyurl.com/ > 2dvqos). > > Keywords: blue spandex body suit.. Tight, tight blue spandex body > suit.. Tight, tight, tight blue spandex body suit. > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 08:42:24 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Leslie Caron - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 5:11 PM To: Sebastian Hagedorn Cc: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: Re: Leslie Caron Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 15:25:02 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V16 #193 - - --On 8. Mai 2007 09:19:40 -0400 "Bachman, Michael" wrote: >>> Regarding 60's movie stars then, Elke Sommer from the Swedish >>> contingent, Ursula Andress from the German contingent, Leslie Carron >>> from the French contingent, Sophia Loren from the Italian and a >>> special mention to Julie Christie from the UK. >>You are confused! Elke Sommer is German and Ursula Andress is Swiss. I don't even know Leslie Carron. Mike G came back with: >* Leslie Caron memorably partnered Gene Kelly in the 'American in Paris' ballet sequence and has 64 entries in imdb . "I'm not a ballerina. I'm a hoofer" (quoting Gene Kelly, I think). I remember seeing her in a an obscure British movie from the 60's, The "L" Shaped Room. It's not out on DVD yet, but it should be. She was great in it as a single pregnant woman living in a "L" shaped room in London. Mj Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 08:55:33 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: fegmaniax-digest V16 #193 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org [mailto:owner-fegmaniax@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Elizabeth Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 12:52 AM To: a sweet little cupcake...baked by the devil! Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #193 james says: >> Catherine was gorgeous, but not as much so as her late, lamented >> sister, the stunning Francoise Dorleac. Our Lauren cam back with: >oh you can all stop pretending, this is THE THREAD OF WOMEN. >xo >p.s. monica vitti. Especially in "L'Avventura", one of the most beautifully shot black and white movies of all time. The Criterion DVD is a must buy. MJ Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 14:43:37 +0100 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: RE: Leslie Caron Quoting "Bachman, Michael" : > Mike G came back with: >> * Leslie Caron memorably partnered Gene Kelly in the 'American in > Paris' ballet sequence and has 64 entries in imdb > . > I remember seeing her in a an obscure British movie from the 60's, The > "L" Shaped Room. It's not out on DVD yet, but it should be. She was > great in it as a single pregnant woman living in a "L" shaped room in > London. > Mj Bachman * Agreed, classic kitchen-sink drama. I had assumed that the original book was by somebody famous like Shelagh Delaney, but it turns out to be by Lynne Reid Banks, whose heroine was called Jane Graham, so they presumably frankified the part to fit Leslie Caron: - - Mike G. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 13:09:37 -0400 From: "m swedene" Subject: dwarf mentionings in lyrics I was just paging through some lyrics and noticed that he uses the term dwarf in 2 songs. Dwarfbeat, Love, and the interesting one that he met in Chinese Bones. Just thought I would throw that out there. Mike ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #196 ********************************