From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #184 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, April 28 2007 Volume 16 : Number 184 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Once again, misheard lyrics ["Michael Sweeney" ] RE: Best/worst opening acts ["Michael Sweeney" ] good band names ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Once again, misheard lyrics [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: Fegs, where are you? [Jeff Dwarf ] movie talk ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: good band names [2fs ] openers [Jill Brand ] Re: Attn. UK fegs ["Stacked Crooked" ] Re: Fegs, where are you? [Rex ] Re: movie talk [Rex ] Re: good band names [Rex ] Re: openers [Rex ] Re: Attn. UK fegs [Rex ] Re: movie talk ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: good band names ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Attn. UK fegs (was Fwd: [RobynHitchcockClub] Robyn Hitchcock - Sundance Documentary - now available on Murmurs...) [] Re: good band names [Rex ] Re: good band names ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: good band names [Rex ] Re: good band names [kevin ] Re: Mini-Review [kevin ] Re: Fegs, where are you? ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: best /worst acts [michaeljbachman@comcast.net] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 05:27:38 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: Once again, misheard lyrics Kevin said >>Mind you, the only enjoyable line in the Beach Boys tragedy "Kokomo" is >>the one about "Martinique, and lumps of rotten steak." > >I hate the fact that that song is even hypothetically associated with Brian >Wilson. It's Mike Love's work, if you want to call it that, and while he >has >been the sole proprietor for lo, these many years of The Beach Boys, Inc., >I >still think he's an ass and I dislike everything about him. Lumps of >rotten >steak, indeed. Probably what he tosses to his ex-wives when their lawyers >start >barking too loud. Yeah, "Kokomo" is too depressing to even consider. It makes "Do it Again" seem like "God Only Knows" in comparison. I think Dennis may have gone recklessly diving for submerged lawn furniture just to avoid having anything to do with that in his future...(well, maybe not, but...c'mon!). Michael "Not sure which is the worse eventual outcome / legacy / 'descendent' of Brian Wilson -- 'Kokomo' or Wilson Phillips..." Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ Download Messenger. Join the im Initiative. Help make a difference today. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_APR07 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 01:47:34 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Fegs, where are you? Sweeney says: > ...Late Friday, after a torrent-of-digests week (2 weeks, really), > and...nothing! > > Refresh, refresh, refresh...still nothing. > > OK - first concerts, opening acts, disbelief at what Lauren just bought, > gun/anti-gun rants, even actual Robyn-related content (or even some > Eb-baiting (we know you're still out there))...WHERE IS IT ALL? i figured everyone's out partying. > ...Or does just everybody else (mostly) have lives or something? Hmm... speaking of not having a life, i'm here brushing up on my lisp programming skills for a paper i have to write. first i have to say, sweeney, you're good with balancing the parentheses which is a much-needed skill when brushing on lisp. if you're wondering what the hell i'm talking about, i'm sure you're waiting for some sample lisp code: (defun factorial (n) (if (<= n 1) 1 (* n (factorial (- n 1))))) that gives you the factorial for the number 'n'. the point being there's a lot of parentheses. someone once told me there was a version of lisp which took a giant right parenthesis that meant 'end all open parentheses.' but that's not the version i have. at any rate, you can see i've spared everyone some pain by waiting until now to post. btw, i wonder what i bought this week...i'll have to check the big thread. life's such a lovely mystery. oh, another btw: i rented "star trek: tng"' disc with the episode called "cause and effect' where the ship gets trapped in a time loop and the crew has to figure out to send a message to itself in the next loop. on the same disc is the episode where riker (ryker?) falls in love with this "woman"' from this race of androgynous people who look remarkably like a bunch of teletubbies. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 06:19:03 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: RE: Best/worst opening acts Mark P sez (as Marks / Marcs make a serious run at Michaels / Mikes): >... Cowboy Mouth/The Suburbs openers for The Church at The Ritz back in >July/'86 Never saw 'em, but I do have a Suburbs story... Must've been about '84 or '85, and I'm coming home from work on the subway here in Chicago. Somewhere not far north of downtown, I notice 3 or 4 guys standing together near me on the packed train, dressed maybe a touch "cooler" than most of the rest of us (and, of course, infinitely cooler than my 22/23 y.o. self) -- skinny ties, leather pants even maybe; I distinctly remember one guy having a deco-ish skyscraper pin on his jacket lapel. They are debating something and looking up at the route map. I ask them if they're trying to find something. Yeah, they tell me -- they're wondering which stop is closest to the John Hancock Building. I tell them, and how to get there...they thank me. A few stops later, the subway rises into the El (elevated)...and, as we pass the Belmont station, one of them points out Tuts nightclub (then, a live music venue). Hmm, I start cogitating...they don't know where the Hancock (3rd tallest bldg in the city) is, but they DO know Tuts...that, plus the outfits...so I ask: hey, are you guys in a band or something, in town for a show? Turns out they were members of (or even all of; not sure) the Suburbs...and I told them I knew a song or two of theirs from recent airplay on 'XRT. They were pretty excited about that and invited me to their show that night, actually writing down my name for the guest list (can't recall where they were playing...or if they were opening for someone or headlining). I got off the train pretty jazzed over both the encounter (even though I barely knew their music) AND from figuring out that they were semi-famous musicians from the available clues. ...However, something came up that night (involving some friends from work and a girl I was trying to see...and I wasn't sure about trying to get more than just me into a show from a random-encounter guest-listing), so I never did show up, but...still remember the whole thing... Michael Sweeney ...And don't get me started about the British friend I used to have who gave the Pogues my address for their first visit to Chicago -- had fate gone a little differently, I coulda been beer-running for Shane McGowan at 3 a.m. while a bunch of Irishmen kipped on my apartment floor... _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage refinance is Hot. *Terms. Get a 5.375%* fix rate. Check savings https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h2bbb&disc=y&vers=925&s=4056&p=5117 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 03:00:19 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: good band names spotted on notification of a dime torrent: Drivin' n' Cryin' they probably spend a lot of time correcting people on the syntax. unless they're a country band in which case they should be spending all their time drivin' n' cryin'. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 00:12:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Once again, misheard lyrics Michael Sweeney wrote: > Michael "Not sure which is the worse eventual outcome / legacy / > 'descendent' of Brian Wilson -- 'Kokomo' or Wilson Phillips..." > Sweeney Definitely "Kokomo." At least Wendy and Chynna were cute, and while "Hold On" is pretty much a saccharine piece of crap, it's not a particularly cravenly saccharine piece of crap -- more like a less ambitious/too emotionally stable Tori Amos -- while "Kokomo" may be the most craven hit single ever. Plus, Kokomo isn't tropical; it's in Indiana. "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 00:13:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Fegs, where are you? The Golden State Warriors are up 2-1 in a playoff series! The Apocolypse is Nigh!!! Michael Sweeney wrote: > ...Late Friday, after a torrent-of-digests week (2 weeks, really), > and...nothing! > > Refresh, refresh, refresh...still nothing. > > OK - first concerts, opening acts, disbelief at what Lauren just > bought, gun/anti-gun rants, even actual Robyn-related content (or > even some Eb-baiting (we know you're still out there))...WHERE IS > IT ALL? > > ...Or does just everybody else (mostly) have lives or something? > Hmm... > > > Michael "Guess it's back to online poker for me..." Sweeney "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 03:33:00 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: movie talk hi fegs, once again, it's time for movie talk. this will be a short installment as i've been fairly busy with end-of-the-semester festivities (i.e. projects, presentations, and finals) and so haven't been keeping up my normally rigorous movie-watching schedule. in the theatre: "fracture" - this is one of those movies my mom and i were bound to go see. we both like anthony hopkins and crime thrillers. the trailer seemed very "silence of the lambs" meets "primal fear" (both great movies - i'm assuming the former is a given, but man, young ed norton was great in the latter.) okay, so about 90% of the time, i'm suprised by the ending of a thriller. i just generally don't think about the future that much and the end of the movie counts as the future in my head. so this one - not surprised. which means the plot was really obvious e.g. we're talking "columbo" here, not "the usual suspects." and so not only did i have a problem with transparency of the plot, but i might have had a *legal issue* in something in the plot as well. again, this doesn't bode well for my review. so i'm a so-so on that one but of course i see none of this as a reflection of anthony hopkins who remains high on the list. on dvd: "freedom writers" - so i have a weakness for these pretty dorky sorts of inspirational tales (it made me want to go rent that one about the teacher and the AP calculus class ("stand by me" is coming to mind, but i know that's not right.) ) hillary swank get her first job as a high-school teacher and gets stuck with the bad-ass bunch of kids with rough life circumstances and gang affiliations, and over time, and with no help from the school administration, gains the trust and love of the kids. not to mention better grades. it was heartwarming (which is why i watch this kind of stuff.) and it was *based on a true story* which automatically increases the heartwarming score. speaking of hillary swank, have you all seen "insomnia"? i love that movie. i've seen the norwegian version (well, some scandinavian country, not positive about norway) and while i can see why many people like it better, i find it really cold in a way that's difficult to get past (passed?) xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 07:49:06 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: good band names On 4/28/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > spotted on notification of a dime torrent: > > Drivin' n' Cryin' > > they probably spend a lot of time correcting people on the syntax. > unless they're a country band in which case they should be spending > all their time drivin' n' cryin'. I think they were also another of the zillion or so bands asserting their individuality and distinctness by insisting their name be lower-cased. One of my pet peeves: 'n'. One of my pet peeves' peeviest pets: the same thing but with only one apostrophe (sometimes the first one, sometimes the second). C'mon: how hard is it to type two damned apostrophes? Or maybe they mean "Drivin' in Cryin'" or "Drivin' no Cryin'"... That said, I'm not sure what "syntax" or other problem Lauren's referring to here... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 09:15:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Jill Brand Subject: openers Tom Clark wrote: "Replacements opening for Tom Petty at Great Woods, MA, 1990(?) - We actually just went to see the 'mats. Left three songs into TP's set." While I've never been a Replacements fan, I completely understand the Tom Petty thing. We went to see him in Denver only because the Fabulous Poodles were opening for him (winter 1980, I believe). The Fab Poos were great, and Tom Petty was so obnoxious (talking about beautiful blondes and cocaine and, jeez, talk about canned sex-drugs-and-rock-n-roll banter), and the music was so boring that we also left early. Jill ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 08:41:02 -0700 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: Re: Attn. UK fegs i'm planning to upload it to demonoid (the dime mods said no-go) in the next day or so. would've done it before now, but have been working an ass-load of hours the last few weeks. it was on sundance, by the way. re worst opening acts: how is it that nobody has mentioned cat power???????? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 08:58:09 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Fegs, where are you? On 4/27/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > > oh, another btw: i rented "star trek: tng"' disc with the episode > called "cause and effect' where the ship gets trapped in a time loop > and the crew has to figure out to send a message to itself in the next > loop. on the same disc is the episode where riker (ryker?) falls in > love with this "woman"' from this race of androgynous people who look > remarkably like a bunch of teletubbies. Oh, I remember that one. Kinda creepy. I mean, it's always weird on episodic TV when a character "falls in love" within one episode, but usually that means someone's gonna die or it's all a scam/illusion/alternate future, but there they hd Rheiyker (okay, I don't know either), who was nominally a sort of a womanizer, not only get too close to fast, but with some weirdo alien outside of his gender-preference norms. It woulda been better if they'd gone all the way and cast a femmey guy instead of a boyish woman. Ah, well, it laid the groundwork for the historic girl-Trill-on-girl-Trill action on DS9. All of which goes to prove beyond a doubt that not *everybody* on the list has a life. It's funny to run into bands in normal life. Saw a bunch of guys with gear in the airport one time and, by the look of their gear and fashion, guessed they'd opened for Interpol the night before. Asked and turned out to be correct. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 09:03:49 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: movie talk On 4/28/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > > speaking of hillary swank, have you all seen "insomnia"? Also speaking of Hillary Swank, WTF with "The Reaping"? Did she get blackmailed into that by fundamentalists or something? Down a peg, Hil. I saw both "Insomnias" (both "Insomniae"?) but barely remember the remake, other than that it wasn't bad, but not singular enough to linger in my mind like the orginal. Was Robin Williams evil in that one, or am I thinking of some other Northern-climes thriller? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 09:17:27 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: good band names On 4/28/07, 2fs wrote: > > > One of my pet peeves: 'n'. As in Robyn Hitchcock 'n' the Egyptians? Admittedly, that was just for one record, and perhaps the fact that it was a different band (albeit with the same personnel) explains why that's not one of my favorites. One of my pet peeves' peeviest pets: the same > thing but with only one apostrophe (sometimes the first one, sometimes the > second). C'mon: how hard is it to type two damned apostrophes? Peeviest peeve plus: the one apostrophe version is FAR more common than the proper, albeit still lame, two-apostrophe rendition. To Robyn's credit, he used the latter. (But I still can't believe that he of all people mispronounces "anemone" in a song! ) Even peevier peeve for me is "li'l". Same reasoning... it should be li'l', with two apostrophes. But it's dumb to begin with. It's an obvious attempt to replicate a child's mispronunciation of "little", which, if i were to transcribe childspeak, I would render as "lill", spelling it as it sounds, since the child is obviously not trying to abbreviate or truncate the word and sure wouldn't start throwing apostrophes in there willy-nilly if asked to write it out. Does a child say "s'pose' to" or is it more like "sposeta"? "Go'n' 'o" or "gonna"? There's an adult daycare place near my work called "The Daily Dream's". Written up on a big sign in a nice font, too. Odd. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 09:21:12 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: openers On 4/28/07, Jill Brand wrote: > > Tom Clark wrote: > "Replacements opening for Tom Petty at Great Woods, MA, 1990(?) - We > actually just went to see the 'mats. Left three songs into TP's set." Didn't the frustration level of this tour kinda lead to Paul's decision to stop even trying to hit the big time with the 'Mats? I remember an interview where he talked about how they were intentionally mixed to sound like crap (in comparison to the headliner), and the audience wasn't paying any attention, and he was hatin' on life. On the other hand, I have no real problem with Tom Petty per se (although I can see that kind of stage banter being off-putting). - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 09:27:33 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Attn. UK fegs On 4/28/07, Stacked Crooked wrote: > > > re worst opening acts: how is it that nobody has mentioned cat > power???????? I almost did, but my experience of her was less of an "opening act" and more of an "act on a festival bill", and one for whom a a greater amount of the crowd seemed to be there for than the next band, which was (holy shit) Television. But Cat Power, damn. That was one of the most awkward group experiences I've ever had. "Sorrysorrysorrrysorry". Half the crowd yelling out placatingly "It's okay, we love you"; another fourth getting vocally pissed off ("Just play a song all the way through!"), and the other fourth either wondering what the hell was going on or trying to decide whether or not to call some sort of public mental health agency or something. But if you technically count that as seeing Cat Power opening for Television, then as to the title of Worst Opening Act, I can proclaim her indeed... The Greatest. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 12:52:12 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: movie talk Rex says: > I saw both "Insomnias" (both "Insomniae"?) but barely remember the remake, > other than that it wasn't bad, but not singular enough to linger in my mind > like the orginal. Was Robin Williams evil in that one, or am I thinking of > some other Northern-climes thriller? yes, robin williams was evil in that one. he tends to irritate me unless he's playing a somewhat disturbed person. there's also "one hour photo" which i loved him in as well, but in that one i'd have to say he was more deeply misguided than evil. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 13:06:41 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: good band names 2fs says: > On 4/28/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > One of my pet peeves: 'n'. One of my pet peeves' peeviest pets: the same > thing but with only one apostrophe (sometimes the first one, sometimes the > second). C'mon: how hard is it to type two damned apostrophes? Or maybe they > mean "Drivin' in Cryin'" or "Drivin' no Cryin'"... > > That said, I'm not sure what "syntax" or other problem Lauren's referring to > here... the apostrophe thing - they probably get driving 'n crying, driving and crying. maybe syntax is the wrong word but when programming at 3:00am, a lot of things look like syntax problems. btw, i always wondered about the 'n' thing because it seems logical it should be 'n' but i've seen it so often as 'n that i wasn't sure. a lot of times when i see the 'n', i figure it's supposed to be ironic. x "i like the rock 'n' roll" o - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 13:17:51 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Attn. UK fegs (was Fwd: [RobynHitchcockClub] Robyn Hitchcock - Sundance Documentary - now available on Murmurs...) this came in from Matthijs van Geldere on the yahoo rh club. it'll be showing up on the announcement list, but if you want to get a head start... i think you probably need to register on mumurs (free) and then it takes you to a torrent site where you use your mumurs registration to download the torrent. xo << Robyn Hitchcock - Sex Food Death and Insects Sundance Channel Documentary http://www.murmurs.com/talk/showthread.php?p=1802563 Recorded straight onto DVD (from BBC4) Widescreen (16:9) format - PAL format 2.6 GB - 1 hour documentary Robyn Hitchcock & The Venus 3 DVD documentary, including interviews with and performances by Peter Buck, Scott McCaughey, Bill Rieflin, Chris Ballew, John Paul Jones, Nick Lowe, Gillian Welch, David Rawlins. Enjoy! Cheers M. __._,_.___ >> - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 10:19:35 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: good band names On 4/28/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > > x "i like the rock 'n' roll" o I'll always prefer the rock to be united with the roll via an ampersand. It is one of the ironies of my life that I tend to be a stickler for words, and yet have spent so much of it in pursuit of something that is usually written with an 'n in it. (That thing being rock 'n roll 'n general, not Guns 'n Roses. And I think that both are usually written with an n' and not an 'n, but at this point I'm just fuck'n' around with the whole thing.) Hey, how about -n-? - -'Rx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 13:32:16 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: good band names Rex says: > On 4/28/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > > > x "i like the rock 'n' roll" o > > I'll always prefer the rock to be united with the roll via an ampersand. i like to think of it however it's spelled when letterman says "do you like the rock 'n' ** roll kids?" xo ** open for debate as it's been way too long since i've heard letterman say that (i.e. because i hardly watch him anymore; hopefully he still says it.) - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 10:57:59 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: good band names On 4/28/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > Rex says: > > On 4/28/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > > > > > x "i like the rock 'n' roll" o > > > > I'll always prefer the rock to be united with the roll via an > ampersand. > > i like to think of it however it's spelled when letterman says "do you > like the rock 'n' ** roll kids?" Again, I forget how large Letterman looms. I say that "the rock & roll" thing all the time, and it's even in my band's myspace tagline, but I'd forgotten that he started it. At some point it also transferred over to things besides r'n'r, particularly to proper names-- as in "You know I love the Tom Clark", but I'm not sure when, or at whose whim. I think it might be related to Seinfeld, although it also might be faux-hip-hop (as in "I loves me the Tom Clark", although that would more often be "I loves me some Tom Clark"), or both. And of course it's probably bolstered by the online convention of using "teh" for emphasis, as often inappropriately as possible. This last I find endlessly amusing, for some reason. It's just teh funny lol.!!!!!111 - -Rex "I still believe in RNR dream/RNR as primal scream" Broome (totally sympathetic to spastics) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 12:21:02 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: good band names >Again, I forget how large Letterman looms. Just watched Jarvis Cocker on last nite's Letterman. Lotta hooks. Enjoyed Andy Dick too. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 12:31:02 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: Mini-Review >Hella, *There's No 666 In Outer-Space* > ~ best...album title...ever? maybe! the record itself is pretty good. Always been partial to the Fugs' It Crawled Into My Hand, Honest. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 15:42:25 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Fegs, where are you? Rex says: > Oh, I remember that one. Kinda creepy. I mean, it's always weird on > episodic TV when a character "falls in love" within one episode, but usually > that means someone's gonna die or it's all a scam/illusion/alternate future, > but there they hd Rheiyker (okay, I don't know either), who was nominally a > sort of a womanizer, not only get too close to fast, but with some weirdo > alien outside of his gender-preference norms. It woulda been better if > they'd gone all the way and cast a femmey guy instead of a boyish woman. the episode struck me as strange as well, for the same reasons. in "star trek" it always seemed spot on that kirk would be all over the aliens, but "star trek: tng" was more sophisticated in that way. i mean, riker spends a few days with her and feels it's so serious that he goes to tell deanna about it (i think he was sort of asking her permission) and then is about to break the prime directive to save her? i think that's around when jonathan frakes(?name) was starting to direct episodes and perhaps wanted riker to be more "complicated" (riker seemed to be attracted to the androgynous character because she was intelligent.) i like riker closer to the gutter where he belongs. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 20:08:52 +0000 From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: Re: best /worst acts - -------------- Original message -------------- From: great white shark > best; hunters and collectors opening for ian dury and the blockheads > in 1981 in adelaide- fucking jaw droppingly weird , they played > percussion on lpg gas cylinders - later thay became SOOOOOO > mainstram, but their first couple of albums are classics > > worst ; far too many to list . but possibly they worst ever was a > soul band called" little women " who opened for hendrix, family,etc > at woburn 68 - lots of hippies throwing toilet rolls at them, they > were just BAAAAAAAD. and it wan't because the audience hated soul, > geno washinton and the ram jam band were a huge hit on the same > bill . these guys just sucked , lousy falsetto vocals and drekky > material . > http://www.ukrockfestivals.com/woburn1.html > this is the one I am trying to get mike godwin to remember any > details about donovans performance , but he has seemingly erased all > memories of it . I've done the same for all donovan's performances > and I must have seen him about six times on and off over the years at > various festivals, highly forgettable , but essentially harmless . > > Oh and also deep purple in 1968 at the national jazz and blues > festival, all wearing purple satin shirts and playing crap like neil > diamond's "kentucky woman " yucckkh ,they hadn't got it together at > that time- joe cocker came on after them and just BLEW them away . > This was when he was good, not MOR . > http://www.ukrockfestivals.com/sunbury1.html > > der kommander Too bad you didn't see DP the folowing year, as they really blossomed on their 3rd album with songs like "Chasing Shadows", "Why Didn't Rosemary?", "The Bird has Flown" "The Painter, and "Fault Line". MJ Bachman ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #184 ********************************