From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #172 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, April 21 2007 Volume 16 : Number 172 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Whoops [Barbara Soutar ] Re: "we're in luck, we're not there" [2fs ] RE: Last (?) Gun Post ["Michael Sweeney" ] Re: Limbo cancelled [Barbara Soutar ] The departure of Eb [great white shark ] Davey Graham [hssmrg@bath.ac.uk] Re: oopsy-doodle [michaeljbachman@comcast.net] Re: Last (?) Gun Post [FSThomas ] Re: Limbo cancelled [kevin ] Re: the horror! [kevin ] Re: Machismo Festapalooza [kevin ] Re: Unnecessary addenda to gun debate [kevin ] Bjork on SNL (100% non-RH & non-Guns, possible Masturbatory uses) ["m swe] Re: maps and legends ["Michael Sweeney" ] Re: masturbation thread (was Re: ) ["Michael Sweeney" ] Re: maps and legends [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Limbo cancelled [Rex ] whitney music box [Steve Schiavo ] Re: maps and legends ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: maps and legends [2fs ] Re: whitney music box [2fs ] Re: maps and legends [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: maps and legends ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: 2001 [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: maps and legends [2fs ] Re: maps and legends ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: whitney music box ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 21:07:34 -0700 From: Barbara Soutar Subject: Whoops I see that I spelled intelligent incorrectly in my earlier post. Is THAT ironic? Barbara Soutar ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 23:16:44 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: "we're in luck, we're not there" On 4/20/07, Stacked Crooked wrote: > > envision are our current setup or some hypothetical scenario in which > *everyone* gets paid exactly the same ("their labors warrant no more > compensation than any other person in the society"). Very, very few folks > would suggest such a society.> > > there was a poll a while back in which 75% of respondents thought that the > phrase "from each according to his ability to each according to his need" > is from the declaration of independence. make of it what you will. i, > for > one, cannot conceive of any reason (save, i suppose, "life isn't fair" -- > which isn't a *good* reason) why like effort should not be rewarded with > like remuneration. Of course, how one measures "like effort" is the big wrench in these works. (Or "spanner" for our British listers. Or "Spaniard" if you're John Lennon.) > > > the crime-rate was dropping nationwide during the same time-period. the > book *Freakonomics* claims it was due to the passage of roe vs. wade > keeping future criminals off the streets. i remember thinking i had a > problem with the authors' logic, but can't remember what that problem was. > Does he attribute it *entirely* to RvW - or merely state that it's a likely factor? (I believe the argument runs that unwanted children are likelier to be treated poorly by their parents, which is likelier to lead to their having affect problems, which is likelier to lead to either poor employment possibilities and then to criminality, or directly to criminality.) Perhaps similar logic will explain why them thar "red states" have more marital problems etc. than the blue states - or why (as last Sunday's "Doonesbury" pointed out) the three leading Republican presidential candidates have 8 divorces among them (the three leading Dems? None). They're so stuck in "family values" mode that they stick with relationships they hate - until they cheat and blow up. I've never understood what possible concern it is to anyone else whether a childless couple stays together. Why are such divorces even counted? Who cares? (Obviously, their friends and family might, for various reasons...but I mean there's no direct social impact...unlike the case when there are kids. Incidentally, one problem with all those studies purporting to show the bad effects on kids of divorces lack a control group: how kids turn out who lived whose parents stayed together in hellish relationships "for the kids." I'm sure it's quite good for a young child to hear his parents screaming at each other and calling one another names for the entire time he's growing up...) - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 04:43:04 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: RE: Last (?) Gun Post Ferris said: >This article came to my attention just now via Digg. I had forgotten >about the Kennesaw law, but you can't really argue with the numbers. Then Jeff commented: >Crime may have dropped in Kennesaw GA >- - is that due to the pro-gun ordinance (and is that ordinance actually >enforced? How? Do cops go around periodically and make sure every household >has a working gun in it, like building inspectors or something?) or other >factors? On the other hand, what works for Kennesaw GA is unlikely to work >in NYC or Chicago. C'mon, Ferris -- you're far too smart to know that, of course, you CAN argue with those (or any other; on whatever side of whatever argument) numbers. You know that those statistics didn't mutate in a vacuum...what other factors could be involved? (and maybe there weren't any other factors -- but we don't know)...and, of course, there are inherent differences between an outlying southern town (apparently recently upgarded to being considered a suburb of Atlanta -- albeit 27 miles away from a mid-sized city) and an old-growth rust-belt suburb 16 miles from the center of a much larger city. Your points are clear -- and generally well-argued...but this citation doesn't necessarily add any palpable weight to your position (IMHO, of course...YMMV (your mitigating-statistical-acceptance may vary)). Michael Sweeney Still ticked off (tangentially) at the seemingly random upirical rulings at the Cubs' loss I attended today (nice weather, though...). _________________________________________________________________ Dont quit your job  Take Classes Online and Earn your Degree in 1 year. 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Barbara Soutar Victoria, BC ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 15:49:31 +0930 From: great white shark Subject: The departure of Eb On Apr 20, 2007, at 11:29 PM, the Quail expostulated: > It's bad enough you drove Eb off the list; If this was the case then we should be eternally grateful to rex, and I am NOT kidding - but I beg to differ your quailness,I seem to remember that the Ebster departed once Eddie told him there would be no respite regarding his " my name is Eb and my dong is luminous and comes in many different colours and sizes and is constantly in and out of various anal passages" type posts as long as he refused to retract his heinous gang of four comments of a few years back . I really think this was what caused der Ebster to vanish in a puff of cyber smoke although I also think Rex had some attritional affect as well . I know Eb had his supporters, but I really think he caused more good folk to leave the list than almost anyone else , Rex by comparison is small fry and I really cannot comprehend why he gets up your nasal passages to such an extent at the moment Iknow you have history, but now that Eb is gone , most of his comments are quite harmless in the grand scheme of things. The old Great Quail would have shrugged him off as he would any minor irritant and would have turned his mighty and imposing energies into composing a new magnum opus on the Great Old Ones, calculating the precise distance from Ursa Minor to the left elbow of Zane Gray or cogitating just why Rush have produced more good albums than I have had hot dinners. It saddens me to say this , but Quail, I think you have to remove ' Great ' from your moniker. No offence, but you have really changed this past few years ........perhaps "the great crab" might be more appropriate : ) once again I say ' lighten up ! " der Kommander ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 10:43:11 +0100 From: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Subject: Davey Graham > Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 16:06:31 +0100 > From: matt sewell > Subject: Davy Graham in the C21st > Davy Graham - obviously back in the day he was just unbelievable, but what > about these days? Anyone have any idea? I've heard that the drugs have taken > their toll over the years, but I'm guessing even with the messy head he still > plays a mean pinball... er... guitar, right? He's playing here in ver Ox next > week and I'm wondering whether it's worth it or not... > Thanking you ta! > Matt * Definitely give him a chance, Matt. I saw him once this millennium and he was playing and eclectic mixture of flamenco, jazz, classical and blues [surprise surprise]. There was one tricky classical piece which he had to re-start after a weak beginning, but otherwise the technique was still there. - - Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 12:40:24 +0000 From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: Re: oopsy-doodle - -------------- Original message -------------- From: Rex > On 4/19/07, 2fs wrote: > > > > > > My firm belief is that he only started using heroin because he couldn't > > stop > > himself from singing, and his own voice drove him insane. I'm sure it > > didn't > > help being named "Shannon Hoon." What kind of name is that? It sounds like > > something Dr. Seuss would use. > > > Dr. Suess was way too cool for that. And what was up with the name Blind > Melon? Some dumb riff on old blues guys' names? > > Why do I know all this bad '90s rock trivia? Aren't there more useful things > > for my brain cells to be doing rather than remembering the names of dead > > lead singers of terrible '90s bands? > > > You're retroactively astonished at the fertile breeding ground between jam > bands and fake grunge that made such things possible. Just giving you an > out if you need it. > > So I lost track of the political thread... who won? > > -Rex Here's some fun 90's rock from cub: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFKThNh5Vqk&mode=related&search= MJ Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 08:43:50 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: Last (?) Gun Post Michael Sweeney wrote: > Michael Sweeney > Still ticked off (tangentially) at the seemingly random upirical rulings > at the Cubs' loss I attended today (nice weather, though...). Aw, c'mon. You shut out the Braves here on Thursday. Isn't that something? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:36:23 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: Limbo cancelled >p.s. did anyone see the "curb your enthusiasm" where cheryl and larry >go to the baptism? i can't remember if cheryl's catholic but she's >catholic enough next to larry (who tried to save the person from being >drowned and then gets accused of trying to convert everyone to >judaism.) That was just crazy funny. If they gave a Pulitzer for sitcoms, that should have won one. I think they were strictly Babtists though. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:43:15 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: the horror! Ya know, when you do something as weird and unnatural as keeping a big-ass predator locked up in a little compound in the middle of a city, you're going to have to expect to clean up some shit now and then. (Althoughthe way things are going it looks like soon enough that will be the only option for the polar bears.) - -----Original Message----- >From: Lauren Elizabeth >Sent: Apr 20, 2007 6:02 PM >To: "a sweet little cupcake...baked by the devil!" >Subject: the horror! > >http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,478171,00.html > >this is actually so bizarrely disturbed that it's making me laugh*. > >upon further investigation, maybe his "keeper" is about to flip his wig? >http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,476566,00.html >well, we know who to suspect if little knut is found "hurled against a >wall" !!!!! > >xo > >* don't call the authorities - i'm sure it's only a defense mechanism. > >-- >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >"People with opinions just go around bothering one another." > > - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:46:30 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: Machismo Festapalooza >To clarify, I used the expression "to see God in something" idiomatically, >to mean "to find profound truth and meaning" in that thing, or have >life-altering experience as a result of it. I thought it was common usage. >Maybe it's a semi-southern idiom and I just didn't realize it (although if >it were, Michael Stipe would've probably used it as a lyric long ago (or >maybe he did and we just can't tell)). > >-Rex It was clear enough. He that hath ears, let him hear, etc. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:52:52 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: Unnecessary addenda to gun debate >> That said, I do think we have a huge violence problem, and not just among >> malfunctioning individuals. As it happens, at lunch I was reading the >> movie >> reviews from this week's _Onion_...and seemingly every movie was about >> torture, kidnapping, murder, decapitation, or just driving really really >> fast. > > >Yeah, I've noticed this, too. Alarmists always point to this and that >extreme example of film and TV violence, but at this moment, I wouldn't >argue with them. > >Interestingly, the blood and guts thing seems to apply both to lowbrow and >highfaluting films and culture. > >Or myabe that's just what you get when you're at war for four years. Dunno. > >-Rex ...this is the age of video violence, to return to that whole Lou thing. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:54:28 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: masturbation thread (was Re: ) >What's the worst school masturbation tragedy on record? > >-Rex I've heard suggestions that it might be Give My Regards To Broad St. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 12:57:51 -0400 From: "m swedene" Subject: Bjork on SNL (100% non-RH & non-Guns, possible Masturbatory uses) Reminder.... BJORK is on SNL tonight. I have heard her new Single "Earth Intruders" and it is Bjork. Anyone know if the entire Volta album has leaked yet? Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 17:44:07 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: maps and legends Ferris observed: >This, from the bottom of the news article, took me a half a second to >figure out: >"(This version CORRECTS spelling of Navteq in 8th graf.)" >I've never heard of a paragraph being referred to as "graf" before, but >seeing as I'm not an editor and barely literate it comes as no surprise. Ahhh - don't sell yourself short: you are much, much more than adequately literate...(and ya know it). (Not to mention, I've worked with many professional editors who couldn't even mambo their way through the "there/they're/their" dance, much less deal with "it's/its"...) And, yeah, paragraphs are "grafs" in journalism-speak. Imagine the confusing fun when corrections of Zeppelin performance coverage went out over the wireless ("Correction: The Graf Zeppelin graf should have read...that is, the 2nd graf (the graf, not the 2nd Zeppelin)....additionally, the graph provided in the 4th graf (that is, the graph showing graf, er, I mean Graf performance, which refers to the previous graf/graph/Graf...aw, I'm quitting for that new-fangled radio...") ...and, what most people would think of as a story's "lead" (ie. the most-important, first-presented kernell of a story) is actually spelled "lede" (pronounced the same...but perhaps spelled that way to differentiate over the element...never looked into why...and, really, why bother with Wiki when I can just speculate and cause someone else's future post? >singing, poorly and broadly< "it's the circle of fegs...") Michael Sweeney More of a lapsed -- or even dilettantish -- journalist than any sort of practicing one... _________________________________________________________________ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglineapril07 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 17:58:47 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: masturbation thread (was Re: ) Rex wrote: >What's the worst school masturbation tragedy on record? I dunno, but, depending on the details, I might actually pay to read about that (wait, I think I already may have!) Michael Sweeney Unfortunately, currently remembering the younger brother in the library in "The Squid and the Whale." _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 18:08:25 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: Limbo cancelled ...Darn -- scanned that title too quickly, and, for a second, thought Rush had been Imused (Imussed? Imushed?)... Michael Sweeney "Radio / Forecast intermittent storms..." _________________________________________________________________ Need a break? Find your escape route with Live Search Maps. http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag3 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 20:21:36 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: maps and legends - -- Michael Sweeney is rumored to have mumbled on 21. April 2007 17:44:07 +0000 regarding Re: maps and legends: > ...and, what most people would think of as a story's "lead" (ie. the > most-important, first-presented kernell of a story) is actually spelled > "lede" (pronounced the same...but perhaps spelled that way to > differentiate over the element Which explains this NYT blog: - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 11:34:15 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Limbo cancelled On 4/20/07, Barbara Soutar wrote: > > Lauren Elizabeth said about her friends and Dad: > > "fortunately they are all the type of catholics who like to sit around > making jokes about catholics. or are all catholics like that?" > > Good point... I think it's true of most Catholics. It's often true of most groups of people sharing a common background in general, isn't it? Self-mockery is bonding mechanism... you have to think of all the good putdowns before the outsiders do, right? I sure as hell know all the worst West Virginia jokes. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 13:46:53 -0500 From: Steve Schiavo Subject: whitney music box Cool - - Steve _______________ Interconnectedness among living beings can be accounted for by nonlocal quantum entanglement. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:47:08 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: maps and legends Sebastian says: > -- Michael Sweeney is rumored to have mumbled on > 21. April 2007 17:44:07 +0000 regarding Re: maps and legends: > > > ...and, what most people would think of as a story's "lead" (ie. the > > most-important, first-presented kernell of a story) is actually spelled > > "lede" (pronounced the same...but perhaps spelled that way to > > differentiate over the element > > Which explains this NYT blog: > > that's weird, after sweeney posted that, i was thinking that i had recently read about the spelling of lede, but i couldn't think where. it turns out it was on the blog that sebastian posted a link to a few minutes later. see upper right corner of blog: "in the news business, the opening sentences of a story are referred to as its "lede" -- spelled that way, journalism lore has it, to avoid confusion with the lead typesetting that once dominated newspaper printing presses." well okay, it's not that weird but it's a slow day here at the computer as i'm having a little trouble learning to do much of anything in prolog (programming language.) xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 13:49:56 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: maps and legends On 4/21/07, Michael Sweeney wrote: > > > And, yeah, paragraphs are "grafs" in journalism-speak. Imagine the > confusing fun when corrections of Zeppelin performance coverage went out > over the wireless ("Correction: The Graf Zeppelin graf should have > read...that is, the 2nd graf (the graf, not the 2nd > Zeppelin)....additionally, the graph provided in the 4th graf (that is, > the > graph showing graf, er, I mean Graf performance, which refers to the > previous graf/graph/Graf...aw, I'm quitting for that new-fangled > radio...") I wanted to figure out a way to include the words "parody," "parity," and "parrot-y" in the same sentence... (Hmm..."His parrot-y parody of parity merely mimics the efforts of the superior economists...") ...and, what most people would think of as a story's "lead" (ie. the > most-important, first-presented kernell of a story) is actually spelled > "lede" (pronounced the same...but perhaps spelled that way to > differentiate > over the element...never looked into why...and, really, why bother with > Wiki > when I can just speculate and cause someone else's future post? > And of course there's "leading" (rhymes with "bedding"), referring not to anything that leads but to the metal formerly used in typesetting, which reg'lar folks might call "line spacing"... (Setting: Some hypothetical early 20th-century independent magazine where staff double up on duties, where Lead Belly has found a job): "Any problems with my article, sir? I've also typeset it for you..." "Well, Lead Belly, the lede's a bit leaden. And the leading misleads the reader's eyes. I'd been led to believe you could do better, Huddie Ledbetter! This just isn't up to the standard of the Lead County Leader!" - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:01:13 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: whitney music box On 4/21/07, Steve Schiavo wrote: > > Cool > > > Now how do you expect me to get any work done? That is completely awesome - I could sit there watching and listening to that stuff all day. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 21:14:08 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: maps and legends - -- Lauren Elizabeth is rumored to have mumbled on 21. April 2007 14:47:08 -0400 regarding Re: maps and legends: > well okay, it's not that weird but it's a slow day here at the > computer as i'm having a little trouble learning to do much of > anything in prolog (programming language.) Hm, I learned that about 20 years ago, but haven't really had much use for it since. I know that it has its strengths in certain areas, but I'm curious what you are learning it for specifically ... maybe off-list might be better, but who knows? Might turn into a 7-digest thread for all I know. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 15:23:16 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: maps and legends Michael Sweeney wrote: > > And, yeah, paragraphs are "grafs" in journalism-speak. or paras, or pars in printing and (from what I know of UK) journalism. > ...and, what most people would think of as a story's "lead" (ie. the > most-important, first-presented kernell of a story) is actually spelled > "lede" I think you're trying to lead (or lede) us astray, Michael. While there are cits, and some do insist on using it, it looks to me like a determined reaching for an old word arising from an irrational fear of homographs. It's not in any Oxford I can reach, and Catherine's hidden the other dictionaries somewhere. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:33:29 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: 2001 >i have spotty but strong memory of first seeing "2001" when i was >about 7. i thought it dreadfully important that i see it. i remember >my mom stopping the station wagon outside of craig s.'s house to pick >him up to go to the theatre. craig and i had gotten in a fight that >day and my mom had to smooth it over between us before the movie. in >my memory, my mom didn't go to the movie with us but rather just >dropped us off and picked us up later, but when i give it half a >thought, i imagine she must have gone in with us. > >i was confused by the ending. i still am. and hal still breaks my >heart a bit. For those of you who can stand filk songs, I'd like to point you at one of my finest creations in that genre: It sorta explains things. Sorta. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 14:39:41 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: maps and legends On 4/21/07, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > Michael Sweeney wrote: > > > ...and, what most people would think of as a story's "lead" (ie. the > > most-important, first-presented kernell of a story) is actually spelled > > "lede" > > I think you're trying to lead (or lede) us astray, Michael. While there > are cits, and some do insist on using it, it looks to me like a > determined reaching for an old word arising from an irrational fear of > homographs. It's not in any Oxford I can reach, and Catherine's hidden > the other dictionaries somewhere. Perhaps it's an American usage: I see it frequently. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 16:50:45 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: maps and legends Sebastian says: > -- Lauren Elizabeth is rumored to have mumbled on > 21. April 2007 14:47:08 -0400 regarding Re: maps and legends: > > > well okay, it's not that weird but it's a slow day here at the > > computer as i'm having a little trouble learning to do much of > > anything in prolog (programming language.) > > Hm, I learned that about 20 years ago, but haven't really had much use for > it since. I know that it has its strengths in certain areas, but I'm > curious what you are learning it for specifically ... maybe off-list might > be better, but who knows? Might turn into a 7-digest thread for all I know. and miss a chance to fluff up a weekend digest? and anyway, prolog is just as much on topic as most other topics around here ;) i'm actually learning it for a class (which i imagine is one of its popular uses.) the class is about syntax and semantics of programming languages and prolog was used by the teacher as an example from the category of logic programming languages. it's seeming all backwards to me right now, but i guess that's what you get for letting the french invent a programming language. quote by b.a. sheil: "as practiced by computer science, the study of programming is an unholy mixture of mathematics, literary criticism, and folklore." xo p.s. in all seriousness, prolog's very interesting but unlike anything i'm used to (e.g. fortran, pascal, c, java, lisp, ml (and at one point, ugh, apl and snobol) which are all examples of imperative or functional languages.) - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 16:56:34 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: whitney music box 2fs says: > On 4/21/07, Steve Schiavo wrote: > > > > Cool > > > > > > > > > Now how do you expect me to get any work done? > > That is completely awesome - I could sit there watching and listening to > that stuff all day. agreed. it's like a (mathematical) function that makes noise! (which may well be what music is, but what can i say - i'm slow and am still trying to connect the dots...) xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #172 ********************************