From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #151 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Sunday, April 15 2007 Volume 16 : Number 151 Today's Subjects: ----------------- okay, this is getting a little fucking weird... ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: reap [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: REAP ["Michael Sweeney" ] Re: reap ["Michael Sweeney" ] Re: REAP [Rex ] Re: Top 25 Live Albums (#1 may surprise you) [2fs ] Re: okay, this is getting a little fucking weird... [2fs ] Re: Top 25 Live Albums (#1 may surprise you) [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Games for May [Jim Davies ] Re: Top 25 Live Albums (#1 may surprise you) [michaeljbachman@comcast.net] Club Congress--brief recap ["Marc Holden" ] Re: 0%rh, 100%ebay [2and2makes5@comcast.net] Re: Reap [FSThomas ] Re: Top 25 Live Albums (#1 may surprise you) [2fs ] Re: Top 25 Live Albums (#1 may surprise you) [Rex ] Re: 0%rh, 100%ebay [2fs ] Re: Reap [Jeff Dwarf ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:39:34 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: okay, this is getting a little fucking weird... for the most part, i thought you folks stopped existing on saturdays and sundays. question for the oracle (eddie): largest number of KB for a weekend day digest? xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 00:49:05 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: reap i don't know what feg to quote from the imus show reap thread, but gmail text ads are getting amusing: "do you like bad boys?" http://www.takebackyourheart.com/ a particular turn on of mine: "#9. PARASITIC LIFESTYLE -- an intentional, manipulative, selfish, and exploitative financial dependence on others as reflected in a lack of motivation, low self-discipline, and inability to begin or complete responsibilities." although it's hard to choose between that and "#18. CRIMINAL VERSATILITY." but hell, why choose. these days, a girl can have it all. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 21:50:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: reap On Sat, 14 Apr 2007, 2fs wrote: > On 4/14/07, Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > > > > On Sat, 14 Apr 2007, Rex wrote: > > > > > The excuse is always "they act like everyone else wishes they could > > act"... > > > and that's pretty worrisome in itself. > > > > Don't they, though? > > > No. > If you believe that everyone secretly wishes they could act like an asshole, > that's merely another way of justifying yourself when you do, in fact, act > like an asshole. Or maybe I'm just a cynic. > Further: even if you *wish* you could act like an asshole, that's absolutely > no reason to actually do so. Civilization is, in large part, a matter of not > acting as we wish we might (at least when those wishes are destructive). > Just because we *have* negative urges is absolutely no reason to justify or > excuse acting upon them. I don't think this is in dispute at all. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 04:54:56 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: REAP Marc Alberts alerted us thusly: >Don Ho, 76 Any word on the fate of his much-bandied-about-this-week half-sister, Nappy-Headed? Michael Sweeney Haven't scrolled down yet, but hoping I'm the first to get to this semi-obvious (if semi-lame) (yet still topical!) joke... _________________________________________________________________ MSN is giving away a trip to Vegas to see Elton John. Enter to win today. http://msnconcertcontest.com?icid-nceltontagline ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 05:07:01 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: reap Kevin said: >>There is a big difference between humor that's somewhat mean-spirited or >>cynical but fictional or satirical (particularly centered on fictional >>charaters), and actually being an asshole to an actual someone. Arrested >>Development is safely in the former column. > >Reminds me of the terrible controversy that erupted when Randy Newman >released >Good Old Boys. Ralph Gleason wrote an editorial in Rolling Stone >condemning it >as a horrible piece of racist trash, to which someone (memory fails) >responded >that Gleason was evidenly unaware of the meaning of the word "satire." >Arrested >Development will live forever in the same hallowed halls as Mary Hartman, >Mary >Hartman. ...Not to mention the grab-the-wrong-end-of-the-stick uproar over "Short People." As George S. Kaufman once said, "Satire is what closes on Saturday night." Today, that can be gently amended to "Satire is what far too many of the fucking general public cannot be relied upon to get at all (those stupid goddamned motherfuckers!)." ...Sure, not all that succinct, but...sadly accurate. Michael (ala "Clerks") "I hate people, but I love gatherings. Isn't that ironic?" Sweeney _________________________________________________________________ The average US Credit Score is 675. The cost to see yours: $0 by Experian. http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=660600&bcd=EMAILFOOTERAVERAGE ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:35:05 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: REAP On 4/14/07, Michael Sweeney wrote: > > Marc Alberts alerted us thusly: > > >Don Ho, 76 > > Any word on the fate of his much-bandied-about-this-week half-sister, > Nappy-Headed? Wow. Get ready to turn to the person next to you during somebody's monologue Monday night and say, "Hey, I wrote that"... - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 01:06:29 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Top 25 Live Albums (#1 may surprise you) On 4/14/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > tc says: > > http://music.ign.com/articles/780/780552p1.html > > > > i'm fine with the gabriel albums being a tie at #11 but in all > fairness they should take up two slots (more like a tie for e.g. #11 > and #10.) They're not "the Gabriel albums" because Gabriel's only on one of them (his own). He was an *ex*-member of Genesis by that time. > > and you all know i'm not much of a stickler for words especially the > particularly unnecessary ones like articles but is #7 a typo or a > joke? I think it's a typo - I can't say I think much of this outlet... For me, the best live albums have new material on them. Or at least massively re-worked older material. What's the point of hearing the same songs arranged the same way, only in poorer sound quality with people screaming? Admittedly, there are some tracks that are improved in live recordings, mostly if the original was sterile for whatever reason. But as a rule, live albums suffer from the "you had to be there" problem: they're never as good as what they're commemorating. By the way: is anyone here a whistler? Not Andrew Bird style - I mean that high-pitched, calling-a-cab sort of whistle. (Which I don't think you actually hail cabs with anyway.) There's always someone doing that high-pitched whistly thing - but they're *never* near you. I think it's actually fed through the PA from some tape the soundguys all have. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 01:09:34 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: REAP On 4/14/07, Michael Sweeney wrote: > > Marc Alberts alerted us thusly: > > >Don Ho, 76 > > Any word on the fate of his much-bandied-about-this-week half-sister, > Nappy-Headed? That's "Don Sex-Worker" now. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 01:07:24 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: okay, this is getting a little fucking weird... On 4/14/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > for the most part, i thought you folks stopped existing on saturdays > and sundays. Perhaps American Fegs are all furiously avoiding completing our tax returns... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 03:29:15 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Top 25 Live Albums (#1 may surprise you) 2fs says: > On 4/14/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > > > i'm fine with the gabriel albums being a tie at #11 but in all > > fairness they should take up two slots (more like a tie for e.g. #11 > > and #10.) > > > They're not "the Gabriel albums" because Gabriel's only on one of them (his > own). He was an *ex*-member of Genesis by that time. d'oh. it registered in my brain as the earlier live genesis album (i thought it was a little gabriel vs. gabriel entry.) so i take it back about being okay about the tie. i've never heard the live gabriel album (although i think made up for this oversight as i saw him when he toured for his 2nd, 3rd, and 4th solo albums) but that can stay where it is as long as non-gabriel genesis gets the boot. x "i know what i like and i like what i know" o - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 03:36:56 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: "green side up" http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSL134897220070413 or http://tinyurl.com/23ee38 xo p.s. thread title is from an old joke about installing sod - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 10:09:59 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Top 25 Live Albums (#1 may surprise you) - -- 2fs is rumored to have mumbled on 14. April 2007 23:26:23 -0500 regarding Re: Top 25 Live Albums (#1 may surprise you): > Kraftwerk? > > I mean, wouldn't a live Kraftwerk album essentially be a selection of > Kraftwerk songs played through the sound system? Did the band actually > "play" anything? I thought it was pretty much entirely programmed. > (Nothing wrong with that - just odd to think of being a "live" album...) I don't know the album, but I saw a concert a few years ago. They *do* play. I think they combine sequencers with live parts, mostly for the melodies. And the songs were quite different from the studio versions. I can't really imagine how that would work on an album. Maybe it's mainly for the new versions of the songs? Me, I missed the old parts :-) - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 10:18:12 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Top 25 Live Albums (#1 may surprise you) - -- 2fs is rumored to have mumbled on 15. April 2007 01:06:29 -0500 regarding Re: Top 25 Live Albums (#1 may surprise you): >> and you all know i'm not much of a stickler for words especially the >> particularly unnecessary ones like articles but is #7 a typo or a >> joke? > > > > I think it's a typo I don't see it ... what are you refering to? - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 01:25:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Top 25 Live Albums (#1 may surprise you) Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > -- 2fs is rumored to have mumbled: > >> and you all know i'm not much of a stickler for words especially > >> the particularly unnecessary ones like articles but is #7 a > >> typo or a joke? > > > > I think it's a typo > > I don't see it ... what are you refering to? Since when did Byrne-Frantz-Weymouth-Harrison use a definite article in reference to their collective self? Or she meant TNOTBITH being on the list instead of SMS. "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 10:42:02 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Top 25 Live Albums (#1 may surprise you) - -- Jeff Dwarf is rumored to have mumbled on 15. April 2007 01:25:58 -0700 regarding Re: Top 25 Live Albums (#1 may surprise you): >> I don't see it ... what are you refering to? > > Since when did Byrne-Frantz-Weymouth-Harrison use a definite article > in reference to their collective self? Oh, I wasn't really aware of that. - -- Sebastian Hagedorn Am alten Stellwerk 22, 50733 Kvln, Germany http://www.uni-koeln.de/~a0620/ "Being just contaminates the void" - Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 02:20:46 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: reap Don Ho no more covering Shock the Monkey... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 10:19:16 +0100 From: Jim Davies Subject: Re: Games for May I called the Queen Elizabeth Hall, but they don't know about it yet. I mean, I assume that there's someone there who knows that the 26th has been booked by someone (or some agency) for something, but there's no internal confirmation, the box office have no information, and there's nothing on the website. Give it a week or so, they said, then call again. I'll call Wednesday. If anyone hears anything from them before then - - or has better information than this - I'd love to know. x Jim ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 11:21:54 +0000 From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: Re: Top 25 Live Albums (#1 may surprise you) - -------------- Original message -------------- From: Tom Clark > http://music.ign.com/articles/780/780552p1.html > > I especially like how the "honorable mentions" are pretty much every > other live album ever made, save Gotta Let This Hen Out and One More > From The Road. > Totally bullshit list if John Coltrane's "Live at The Village Vanguard" didn't even warrant a Honorable Mention and the Allman Brothers "Live at The Fillmore East" wasn't a top 5. MJ Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 03:36:34 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: Club Congress--brief recap Sean Nelson--opening set Robyn/flower patterned shirt solo acoustic Ghost Ship add Bill and Sean Queen Elvis add Peter (on 12-string Gibson hollow-body) Flanagan's Song add Scott Sally Was a Legend Bo Diddley Is a Gun Slinger (Elias McDaniels)--Robyn did about a verse of this, off the cuff Ole Tarantula (new song--Sixteen...?) Balloon Man (sloppy transition from acoustic to electric mid-song, Robyn had no where to put his Fylde) Flesh #1 (Beatle Dennis)--with a verse of More Than This (Roxy Music) mixed in New York Doll Somewhere Apart Road House Blues (Doors)--another off-the-cuff excerpt/jam, Scott said "I thought we were going to do Spirit in the Sky" Brenda's Iron Sledge The Authority Box Jewels for Sophia (at about this point, Peter switched to a 6-string Rickenbacker, for a few songs) Madonna of the Wasps Arms of Love A Man's Got to Know His Limitations, Briggs (break--Robyn changes to salamander shirt) Open the Door, Richard (Dylan) I've Got a Feeling (Beatles) Adventure Rocket Ship See Emily Play (Pink Floyd) Eight Miles High (Byrds) Great show, Robyn's voice sounding strong, and everyone in a good mood. Robyn was very talkative throughout the show, drifting into Spanish during a monitor problem (something like "la muerta de la monitor", etc.) The stage has been remodeled recently and would be a great place to photograph the band. I pointed out to Scott before the set, and he said Michele's camera has been acting up, so she wasn't taking many pictures lately--that hopefully someone in the crowd would take/share some good ones. Robyn watched Sean's opening set from the audience, without anyone bothering him (except Michele sneaking up behind him). Robyn stayed around afterward signing things and talking. I didn't talk to him tonight, but before heading out, I took the picture of someone from the Hitchcock Club together with Peter Buck. I got to ask Peter if he actually hated Tom Clark. "No. No, you're like the second person to ask me about that tonight. It's just an internet rumor..." So be careful Tom, Peter might try to overcompensate for previously being less than open and friendly. If the guy trying to follow you home one evening looks a bit like Peter Buck, it might actually be him... Marc btw--no local musicians joined Robyn and band onstage, but Robyn dedicated one song to Howe Gelb's daughter, and I noticed Joey Burns (Calexico) was on the guest list. These might be details worth considering since Robyn plans to spend a bit of time in Tucson recording for the next album. If a kid asks where rain comes from, I think a cute thing to tell him is "God is crying." And if he asks why God is crying, another cute thing to tell him is "Probably because of something you did." Jack Handey ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 13:55:04 +0000 From: 2and2makes5@comcast.net Subject: Re: 0%rh, 100%ebay Some sellers are like this...once you've gone past the expected time of receipt and written 3 times with no response, then the nastiness should begin. Of course, depends on the item. If you're buying something like the original VU vinyl pressing, you'll certainly want better communication than with a $1.99 Yngwie Malmsteen and Yanni Live CD purchase. Something I think Ebay should institute is some kind of buyer account that automatically tells a seller what the buyer expects, i.e. the buyer expects to hear from the seller within X days or neutral/negative feedback will be left. Currently the seller pretty much controls all this. Maybe this exists already... Jon -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Stewart C. Russell" > what's the minimum time before you can get annoyed with an eBay seller > who won't finalize payment details? I won an auction on Monday, and the > seller's gone silent. > > cheers, > Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 10:05:06 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: Reap kevin wrote: >> - do you believe that his intention was benign but misguided? >> >> - if so, should he still have been fired? > > The more I think about this, especially post the CBS firing, the more annoying it gets. > Like, Imus has a rep for making Jew jokes, but nobody ever tried to get him fired over > those. It's still marginally fashionable to make anti-semitic comments. They are, after all, the source of evil in the world second only to the United States. > the Faux News crew speaking in his defense, which is insanely weird but still kind > of funny. Maybe they'll hire him to work with Hannity & Combes. I laugh whenever anyone talks about true evil in the world (including kitten killers, baby eating, and signs of the Apocalypse), it's usually with a mention Fox News peppered into the mix. I had been lead to believe that the left in the States (including the Democratic Party) want change and want to nurture dialog on issues. To sit down and chat on what's concerning everyone else and maybe come up with a consensus to change things, hopefully for the better. The constant bashing of Fox is relatively transparent and reveals a bit of the ugliness of the left in this country: that they certainly want dialog, but one where they do all the speaking. Would Barack Obama decline a debate sponsored by the Congressional Black Caucus? Hell no. A debate co-sponsored by Fox News? Now that's completely different.* For candidates to turn down an opportunity for a nationally televised debate simply because it's being held on Fox is asinine. Lastly, the hatred of Talk Radio is easy to noodle out. It's so castigated because it's popular, first off (and by a"popular" I mean it has listeners and generates ad revenue for the stations carrying the content), and secondly it's an avenue for ideas differing from the Party Line. Not to mention the fact that Air America was an abject failure (and by "abject failure" I mean it didn't have listeners (doesn't? Is it still on the air?) and couldn't generate ad revenue for the stations carrying the content). - -f. * http://tinyurl.com/3aztmq ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 12:09:08 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Top 25 Live Albums (#1 may surprise you) On 4/15/07, Sebastian Hagedorn wrote: > > -- Jeff Dwarf is rumored to have mumbled on 15. > April > 2007 01:25:58 -0700 regarding Re: Top 25 Live Albums (#1 may surprise > you): > > >> I don't see it ... what are you refering to? > > > > Since when did Byrne-Frantz-Weymouth-Harrison use a definite article > > in reference to their collective self? > > Oh, I wasn't really aware of that. Right. It would be more forgivable if the title of the album weren't, uh, right there in capital letters...with no "the" before the band name. I think TNOTB... *is* a better live album than SMS. SMS works better in conjunction with the film, and it's a fine live album - but I prefer TNOTB... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 13:18:29 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: 0%rh, 100%ebay 2and2makes5@comcast.net wrote: > Some sellers are like this...once you've gone past the expected time > of receipt and written 3 times with no response, then the nastiness > should begin. Well, it's difficult. I got the thing at a really good price (it's a huge old camera; a Mamiya RB67). I know the seller's from Cape Breton, where if they're anything like their Highlands & Islands kin in Scotland, the term 'manana' (insert tilde) would instill a fearful sense of urgency upon them. > $1.99 Yngwie Malmsteen and Yanni Live CD purchase. I didn't check -- that made the top ten live recordings ever, yes? cheers, Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 10:21:08 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Top 25 Live Albums (#1 may surprise you) On 4/14/07, 2fs wrote: > > > > > and you all know i'm not much of a stickler for words especially the > > particularly unnecessary ones like articles but is #7 a typo or a > > joke? > > > > I think it's a typo - I can't say I think much of this outlet... The typo is repeated in both the band and album name, though, so that's weird, and the band name is correct when they reappear in the Honorable Mentions. I'd throw up my hands in confusion if I'd been silly enough to eat them in the first place. For me, the best live albums have new material on them. Or at least > massively re-worked older material. What's the point of hearing the same > songs arranged the same way, only in poorer sound quality with people > screaming? I usually agree, especially since a lot of artists I'm drawn to tend to be among the few who actually release records of new live stuff (Neil, Cale, and as of last year the recently-fawned-over Tanya Donnelly). But every once in a while you get stuck on a particular live set by someone you really like, if the versions are uniformly better than the records. Hen, Cheap Trick's Budokan... but this almost never happens with me unless I like the artist a good deal to begin with. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 12:24:17 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Reap On 4/15/07, FSThomas wrote: > > kevin wrote: > > > The more I think about this, especially post the CBS firing, the more > annoying it gets. > > Like, Imus has a rep for making Jew jokes, but nobody ever tried to get > him fired over > > those. > > It's still marginally fashionable to make anti-semitic comments. They > are, after all, the source of evil in the world second only to the > United States. Being opposed to some actions of the state of Israel is not the same thing as being anti-semitic. I'm pretty sure you know that, and can understand the distinction (just as being opposed to, say, slavery in the 19th century wouldn't have made a person "anti-American"). So why do you equate the two? I don't know which crowd you run with where anti-semitic comments - actual ones, not comments expressing disagreement with Israeli policies - are "fashionable." I laugh whenever anyone talks about true evil in the world (including > kitten killers, baby eating, and signs of the Apocalypse), it's usually > with a mention Fox News peppered into the mix. I had been lead to > believe that the left in the States (including the Democratic Party) > want change and want to nurture dialog on issues. To sit down and chat > on what's concerning everyone else and maybe come up with a consensus to > change things, hopefully for the better. The constant bashing of Fox is > relatively transparent and reveals a bit of the ugliness of the left in > this country: that they certainly want dialog, but one where they do all > the speaking. This is similar to the point about satire the other day: the problem with Fox isn't that it's right-wing, it's that it misrepresents and then pretends to objectivity. Again, I don't know any leftists who want everyone who disagrees with them to just shut up (and I know a number of leftists). But I do know Ann Coulter "joked" that it was too bad the NY Times building wasn't attacked. Would Barack Obama decline a debate sponsored by the Congressional Black > Caucus? Hell no. A debate co-sponsored by Fox News? Now that's > completely different.* For candidates to turn down an opportunity for a > nationally televised debate simply because it's being held on Fox is > asinine. Candidates - of various political ideologies - turn down debates all the time. I'm waiting for someone to spin this as "Obama spurns Black Caucus!" From the news item you linked to, there's no indication whatsoever *why* Obama declined. Lastly, the hatred of Talk Radio is easy to noodle out. It's so > castigated because it's popular, first off (and by a"popular" I mean it > has listeners and generates ad revenue for the stations carrying the > content), and secondly it's an avenue for ideas differing from the Party > Line. What does its popularity have to do with disliking it? You can continue to think there's some sort of ultra-powerful left wing that wants to shut down everyone who has ideas other than "the Party Line" (which is pretty funny: leftists are notorious for disagreeing amongst themselves - and debating endlessly about how to get past that...). Which would explain the popularity you mention not a sentence earlier. I find it interesting that right-wingers so often claim that the left wants to shut them up - when particularly on a global spectrum, almost every mainstream media outlet in the country is right-wing, and there's very little left media to speak of (again: exactly what you note above in noting the lowish ratings of Air America). Keep on polishing that martyrdom - it's pretty amusing, really. But hearing over and over again that the left just wants to shut me up wah-wah-wah gets pretty tedious - esp. when (isolated instances aside - and there are plenty coming from the other side too) it just isn't happening. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 12:27:09 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: 0%rh, 100%ebay On 4/15/07, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > > > > $1.99 Yngwie Malmsteen and Yanni Live CD purchase. > > I didn't check -- that made the top ten live recordings ever, yes? Together? That thing unleashes the fuckin' fury of your inner child. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 10:28:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Reap FSThomas wrote: > kevin wrote: > > The more I think about this, especially post the CBS firing, the > > more annoying it gets. Like, Imus has a rep for making Jew > > jokes, but nobody ever tried to get him fired over those. > > It's still marginally fashionable to make anti-semitic comments. > They are, after all, the source of evil in the world second only > to the United States. Also, most of those "jew jokes" were specifically directed at his bosses, so there was sort of a presumption that if his bosses weren't going after him, it must be semi-kosher. My several years local board opping his show give me far too much direct insight into his show and his psyche for my own good. "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #151 ********************************