From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #140 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Tuesday, April 10 2007 Volume 16 : Number 140 Today's Subjects: ----------------- measure twice, cut once ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] re: like you're dying to know what i just got... [ken ostrander ] Re: the smell of fear (25.0 % rh) ["Michael Sweeney" ] Re: the smell of fear (25.0 % rh) [kevin ] Re: [sfbayfegs] Tuesday's SF Show ["Crazy Unca' Nick" ] Re: [sfbayfegs] Tuesday's SF Show [Carrie Galbraith ] Re: measure twice, cut once [Rex ] Re: Reap [Jeff Dwarf ] RE: measure twice, cut once ["michael wells" ] Re: like you're dying to know what i just got... [Rex ] RE: measure twice, cut once [kevin ] Re: like you're dying to know what i just got... ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 23:51:13 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: measure twice, cut once http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1626728.ece which reminds me of one of my favourite articles by the onion: http://www.theonion.com/content/node/38718/print/ okay, i admit it, while you're all off trying to remember where you hid those eggs, i'm writing fluff for the digest. or are you watching the sopranos? xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 23:23:29 -0700 (PDT) From: ken ostrander Subject: re: like you're dying to know what i just got... what i just got... from the bookstore: a huge pile of children's books including several little golden story books. i hadn't seen them in a long time. from the library: 'black beauty' brought back 'the black stallion' and had to come back with another "horse movie" for the shug-meister. it has alan cumming as the voice of beauty narrating the story, which takes some getting used to. i think i prefer the stallion movie (the one with mickey rooney) because you can turn down the volume and still enjoy the visual feast while playing music or whatever. am i barking up the wrong tree here or can someone suggest other good horse movies suitable for a precocious two year old? in the post: lou reed. 'rock and roll animal' & 'new york' from a friend. i'd never heard all of the live album, and this version has extra tracks. maybe the sweetest jane evah. i lost my cd of new york to an old girlfriend and have since replaced it with vinyl. it's nice to be able to play it in the minivan. it's the beginning of a great adventure. elvis costello. a plethora of albums from craigie. cheers! "hora decubitus" from 'my flame burns blue' might be one of the best things he's ever done. elvis presley. a good 'elvis live' compilation and a dvd of a strange posthumous concert put on with film footage and a live band. public television goodies. a honeybaked ham (sorry mucky) and a tuxedo mousse cake packed in dry ice. from the basement: james brown's 'startime'. papa don't take no mess. haven't felt the need to jam with jb in a long time. no wild dance parties until the not-so-wee hours. given the preponderance of sampling these days of james brown's work, it is wild to hear how jb ripped off bowie [or rather alomar] so obviously with "hot (i need to be loved, loved, loved, loved)". godel escher bach. working on self transcendence right now. in a modern pop zen occult psychology idiom. "if you define 'mathematics' as what mathematicians enjoy doing, then the properties of brains are not mathematical." from blockbuster: 'babel' almost a happy ending; but when it's inarritu, it's got to be unflinching. i really dig bernal; and not because he reminds me of my younger brother. i think 'amores perros' is definitely the best of the trilogy. amy was physically distraught after the sewing scene. 'stranger than fiction' very sweet story about a tax man and the anarchist baker that he's auditing. oh, and he hears the voice of a writer in his head describing his life and directing his actions. it may be the chanciest thing will ferrell has done. and it wasn't written by charlie kaufman. 'da vinci code' perfect for easter. curator shot by self-flagellating albino monk in louvre runs around writing anagrams in his own blood before positioning himself in vitruvian man type configuration to die. amy said with suprise, "this is an action movie?" i kept expecting them to stumble upon castle anthrax. 'sherrybaby' have yet to watch it; but maggie gyllenhaal may be the next gena rowlands, or at least the next vera lyn. "there are two ways to be cool: one is to be disinterested and make it seem like you must be doing something much more interesting than everybody else if you are this disinterested. the other is to be extremely interested. you are not trying to please anyone, but you are really invested are really focused." >>nudge-nudge, wink-wink, say no more. i'm big on the candid. after years of getting >>people to pose, i prefer to catch them in a more natural frame. some folks get all tense in >>their face when they know there's camera pointed at them. > >some people get all tense when they find out about such photographs.< maybe the tension is an unconscious attempt to disuade photographs so people won't steal part of their soul. i do a lot of shooting from the hip to make it less obvious. some people are never happy with pictures of them. i guess that's increasingly true for each of us as we get older. still, i find that the natural beauty is more accessible in the candid shot than the posed stiffy stiffington. >> so if you are doing everything manually, there won't be the delay? > >well yes but then you get to complain about the slow photographer< i'm working my way from the painstaking wait for the perfect shot to snaphappypappy. >well of course it can be faked, but there are some things that >shouldn't be faked.< now there's a can of bees... >>>>>>>>>>>>> > And really, if people don't bullshit, what the hell will they talk about? Ah, it's not just the bullshitting I miss... it's the pulling down of a hefty reference volume from a high shelf and paging through it to settle those esoteric dinner-party disputes. I mourn the loss of the usefulness of an atlas at least as much as that of the LP sleeve... We have a giant old dictionary at home on the 2nd floor landing to which I can still run from any given point in the house and look up a word more quickly than it can be Wiki'd, so long as the Wiki'er isn't sitting at the computer already. Because that's how we live. <<<<<<<<<<<< it is the folks who keep their archaic reference books that will be winning the arguments when the electricity goes. if they aren't being burned, that is. when you're lost on the road, an atlas is your best friend, not your laptop. and don't get me started on the album sleeve. as long as you use it, it's useful. >shuggie is almost too cute a nickname. although it could be a name - >children are named so very many things these days. it came about on the way home from the hospital. we had been calling her all sorts of sugar bear, sugar smack, sugar magnolia, sugar snap pea, type stuff and it got abbreviated to shuggie. it bears more connection with shuggie otis than suge knight. we like to think that it protects her to use it instead of her real name; although someone could find it out if they wanted to i suppose. this could be her stage name. >"People with opinions just go around bothering one another." > >- The Buddha talked to my brother (who lives in taiwan) this morning and asked if the buddhists celebrate his (gautama, not my brother) birthday, since it was supposedly yesterday. the answer is no. they celebrate the day of the great departure. apparently, there have been lots of buddhas. are we still waiting for maitreya or does the future buddha now walk among us? are there any bodhisattvas out there to take us by the hand? anyway, happy easter everyone. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eostre ken "maybe it's true i'm not totally dead" the kenster np 'manassas' stephen stills "jesus gave love away for free" - --------------------------------- Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 23:21:03 -0700 (PDT) From: ken ostrander Subject: re: the smell of fear (25.0 % rh) >here's a topic: what rh songs did you used to not like but now like and why?< 'do policemen sing?' i thought it was ridiculous with the screechy questions and the low responses. it got skipped for a long time. now i find it to be quite catchy and humorous. 'the yip song' it took a long, long, long time for me to get past the yipping. i'm not sure exactly when it happened; but i remember really feeling it when he sang the slowed down "easy" bit live. after that i listened more and more and got to appreciate the whole song on a conceptual level. >>>> p.s. do i have to actually talk about rh to get percentage points in the thread subject, or is talking about my own personal thoughts about rh enough to warrant > 0% (e.g. the difference between posting a setlist and just posting what i thought about the setlist)? <<<< i think just mentioning uncle bobby should get you points. what towards is another question. if you're talking about him, then you're on topic. if you quote him, then you're trying. if you're thinking about him, well, you're on the right track. - --------------------------------- Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 23:33:36 -0700 (PDT) From: ken ostrander Subject: re: the lighter side of hitchcock >http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/04/08/PKGOBP08A31.DTL "if I were dead or institutionalized, i would probably be a lot more famous." like most people, he says, he finds life "difficult at times, but i also find things to celebrate, so i'm not a lonesome guy gibbering in an attic. i'm more like brian eno. i wander around the world in nice clean clothes and hold forth at festivals. i am currently in the world. what i probably have in common with these other people you mention is i try to find my own language as a songwriter, which probably restricts my appeal because not everybody can pick up on it, but it probably intensifies its appeal to the people who do." that explains us. robyn certainly seems pretty well adjusted considering the strange subject matter of his songs. perhaps the songs are the reason why. he has an outlet for all of that while most people repress their idiosyncracies. "in fact," it just occurs to him, "the 2-inch tapes for 'eye' are still in (the) studio. so ... i left my tapes in san francisco." nice. reminds me that i left my 'death to the pixies' t shirt in san francisco. ken "a man's got to know his limitations" the kenster - --------------------------------- Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! 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On Apr 9, 2007, at 11:19 AM, HwyCDRrev@aol.com wrote: > _http://www.philly.com/inquirer/columnists/dan_deluca/ > 20070324_Robyn_Hitchcock > _documentary_lets_fans_into_his_head.html_ > (http://www.philly.com/inquirer/columnists/dan_deluca/ > 20070324_Robyn_Hitchcock_documentary_lets_fans_into_his_hea > d.html) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 11:53:47 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Reap Johnny Hart, cartoonist, 76 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6538751.stm xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 17:43:44 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: the smell of fear (25.0 % rh) Jeff rutled: >On 4/7/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: >> >>prior post and not "old people scream" - sometimes i get antonyms >>mixed up because they seem kind of the same in way (a reaction against >>one another) >That happens to me sometimes with paired notions - not so much antonyms >as...well, for example, silver/gold, and when I was a kid, >mushrooms/onions. >Not, however, "Cheese and Onions" (oh no). ...Do I have to spell it out? One of the most heart-warming things ever (to my Frigidaire cardio system, anyway) was a story I read a few years back in one of the Chicago mainstream media outlets...about semi-bizarre ways couples had met. And among the fairly tame meet-cutes documented there, I thought the best one (in the category of the right people finding each other) was about the girl who heard her future husband softly singing to himself (at work, at the Univ. library; something like that), "I have always thought in the back of my mind / Cheese and Onions..." and deciding that this was the guy for her. Think they had it played at the wedding, too. I know I was in a supermarket a few years ago, and heard a Musak version of (I think it was...) "Another Day" or "Living in Hope," and looked around, both amazed and wishing there was someone with me I could tell... Also -- I have recently noticed a subtle similarity between the Ruts' "Let's Be Natural" and Uncle Robbie's "Queen Elvis"...along with the previously noted "Leppo" connection, perhaps RH is/was a Rutles appreciator... Or, as Lauren has noted (in kinder terms), perhaps I'm just talkin' outta my ass, here (sorry -- too much "Sopranos" repeats prior to last night's show)... Michael Sweeney C. H. E. E. S. E. A. N. D. O. N. I. O. N. S. (oh, no...) _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage refinance is Hot. *Terms. Get a 5.375%* fix rate. Check savings https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h2bbb&disc=y&vers=925&s=4056&p=5117 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 17:18:11 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: the smell of fear (25.0 % rh) ken says: > 'the yip song' it took a long, long, long time for me to get past the yipping. i'm not sure exactly when it happened; but i remember really feeling it when he sang the slowed down "easy" bit live. after that i listened more and more and got to appreciate the whole song on a conceptual level. by the time 'respect' came out, i was standing back a bit after having listened to robyn for like four years without coming up for air. and it didn't help that it opened with 'the yip song'. i thought that was just silly. i think the turning point for me was when i got a copy of 'spectre'. i love the bit where robyn's talking about the scottie dogs. plus i love the way robyn just says the words 'scottie dogs.' i started thinking about how the whimsy of the song seems to barely cover the sadness in it, like you could just scratch at it, and all the sadness would come pouring out. eventually i came to really like 'the yip song'. as a sign of my dedication, i bought a pair of pajama pants a few months back that have scottie dogs printed all over them. they would just be silly, if not for 'the yip song' > i think just mentioning uncle bobby should get you points. what towards is another question. if you're talking about him, then you're on topic. if you quote him, then you're trying. if you're thinking about him, well, you're on the right track. what about dreaming about him? xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 15:20:58 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: the smell of fear (25.0 % rh) >Michael Sweeney >C. H. E. E. S. E. A. N. D. O. N. I. O. N. S. (oh, no...) > All those old enuff to have seen the original Rutles telecast (and laughed yerself sick) back in the depths of the nineteen and seventies, wave yer palsied extremities...still have an old Neil Innes 7-inch of "How Sweet To Be an Idiot" (b/w "The Age Of Desperation") and there's a vague memory of him playing it on SatNiteLive sitting at a big white piano in full Lennono mode, or maybe I'm just imagining that based on something from the Rutles movie. Can anyone enlighten me? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 15:26:46 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: the smell of fear (25.0 % rh) >what about dreaming about him? > There actually was a dream this weekend that involved some kind of Sinister Conspiracy, and our Bobby was hanging around the edges and sneering in a weird echo of his Manchurian Candidate bit. I'm sure it was due to my being too crippled up with a malignant virus to make it to the Crocodile show on Friday. (Anybody catch that one?) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 15:40:46 -0700 From: "Crazy Unca' Nick" Subject: Re: [sfbayfegs] Tuesday's SF Show I'd forgotten what it's like to herd Fegs. See if this helps... Executive decision: Meet from 6:30pm onwards at Manora Thai restaurant, 1600 Fulsom St. http://www.manorathai.com/ If you want to join the group, email sfbayfegs@yahoogroups.org so that the first arrivees can reserve a big enough table for everyone. OK? ~N (Parking on the street is usually not a problem, or there's a (paid) costco lot at the end of 11th st.) Carrie Galbraith wrote: > - you guys just tell me where to show up. I'm in the City early for > dental work and then meeting my nephew around 6. > > Tom Clark wrote: >> >> >> Who's going? Are we meeting up for a bite beforehand? Anybody want >> to carpool from the south bay? >> >> -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 16:41:09 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: [sfbayfegs] Tuesday's SF Show I'll be there around 6:15 or so with dreadlocked nephew in tow. That's 2 chairs for sure. See you all soon! - - c - -----Original Message----- >From: Crazy Unca' Nick >Sent: Apr 9, 2007 3:40 PM >To: sfbayfegs@yahoogroups.com, The Authority Box >Subject: Re: [sfbayfegs] Tuesday's SF Show > >I'd forgotten what it's like to herd Fegs. See if this helps... > >Executive decision: > >Meet from 6:30pm onwards at Manora Thai restaurant, 1600 Fulsom St. >http://www.manorathai.com/ > >If you want to join the group, email sfbayfegs@yahoogroups.org so that >the first arrivees can reserve a big enough table for everyone. > >OK? > >~N > >(Parking on the street is usually not a problem, or there's a (paid) >costco lot at the end of 11th st.) > > >Carrie Galbraith wrote: > > - you guys just tell me where to show up. I'm in the City early for > > dental work and then meeting my nephew around 6. > > > > Tom Clark wrote: > >> > >> > >> Who's going? Are we meeting up for a bite beforehand? Anybody want > >> to carpool from the south bay? > >> > >> -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 17:47:53 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Reap On Apr 9, 2007, at 8:53 AM, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > Johnny Hart, cartoonist, 76 It's a shame he's too dead to realize that all the religious bullshit he was infusing his "comic" with was a lie. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 17:50:52 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: measure twice, cut once On 4/8/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1626728.ece > > which reminds me of one of my favourite articles by the onion: > http://www.theonion.com/content/node/38718/print/ > > okay, i admit it, while you're all off trying to remember where you > hid those eggs, i'm writing fluff for the digest. > > or are you watching the sopranos? To read the paper around here, it seem that you're required to do so by law-- I've lost count of the features about that show and its significance. Also in the Times Calendar Section today, a shocking expose dares to suggest that American Idol may just not be all about, or indeed good for, music! - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 18:09:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Reap Tom Clark wrote: > On Apr 9, 2007, at 8:53 AM, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > > Johnny Hart, cartoonist, 76 > > It's a shame he's too dead to realize that all the religious > bullshit he was infusing his "comic" with was a lie. Bigger shame that the religious bullshit turned him into an anti-semite. "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 20:25:25 -0700 From: "michael wells" Subject: RE: measure twice, cut once > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1626728.ece This is really bad news for the Lab at exactly the wrong time; I live 12, maybe 15 miles away and you can fell the pall from here. And I'm not so sure the rather lighthearted description "pratfall" applies...I've talked to a couple of people who work out there, and heard terms raging from "bloody black eye" to unpleasant things involving the naughty bits instead. > or are you watching the sopranos? Renee Fleming? She's coming to the Lyric next January as Violetta in La Traviata! Michael "I'd watch her die from consumption any time" Wells ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 17:59:27 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: like you're dying to know what i just got... On 4/8/07, ken ostrander wrote: > > > 'black beauty' brought back 'the black stallion' and had to come > back with another "horse movie" for the shug-meister. it has alan cumming > as the voice of beauty narrating the story, which takes some getting used > to. i think i prefer the stallion movie (the one with mickey rooney) > because you can turn down the volume and still enjoy the visual feast while > playing music or whatever. am i barking up the wrong tree here or can > someone suggest other good horse movies suitable for a precocious two year > old? Any horse seems to usually do the trick. My kids even liked "Spirit", But they're more about horses in book form, at bedtime... my mom found a picture book called "My Pony" that they still love. (I'm sure there are a million books with that title... this one is by Susan Jeffers. And there's a similar book called "The Sleep Ponies"... it's a whole subgenre, it seems.) lou reed. 'rock and roll animal' & 'new york' from a friend. i'd > never heard all of the live album, and this version has extra tracks. maybe > the sweetest jane evah. i lost my cd of new york to an old girlfriend and > have since replaced it with vinyl. it's nice to be able to play it in the > minivan. it's the beginning of a great adventure. Why has that album, which is totally an artifact of its time, aged so well? Maybe it's because Lou really seemed to know what he was talking about for once. > talked to my brother (who lives in taiwan) this morning and asked if the > buddhists celebrate his (gautama, not my brother) birthday, since it was > supposedly yesterday. the answer is no. they celebrate the day of the > great departure. apparently, there have been lots of buddhas. are we still > waiting for maitreya or does the future buddha now walk among us? are there > any bodhisattvas out there to take us by the hand? I have no idea why, but the word "bodhisattva" was lodged in my brain on the ride home, before I read this post. Odd. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 21:05:02 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: measure twice, cut once On 4/9/07, michael wells wrote: > > > > or are you watching the sopranos? Watching the sopranos Oh-oh, don't get cute... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 20:05:10 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: RE: measure twice, cut once >This is really bad news for the Lab at exactly the wrong time; I live 12, >maybe 15 miles away and you can fell the pall from here. And I'm not so sure >the rather lighthearted description "pratfall" applies...I've talked to a >couple of people who work out there, and heard terms raging from "bloody >black eye" to unpleasant things involving the naughty bits instead. Maybe this will cause somebody, somewhere to take the state of science education in the States seriously. It couldn't be a lot worse... On the other hand, we have a brief reprieve before the phycics guys create that black hole that's going to swallow us all up. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 23:14:43 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: like you're dying to know what i just got... Rex says: > Why has that album, which is totally an artifact of its time, aged so well? > Maybe it's because Lou really seemed to know what he was talking about for > once. i was going to say something about "new york" then i thought you were talking about "rock and roll animal" but now i'm back to "new york". not that it would stop anyway like most of lou's post-VU stuff, i find that album spotty, but i adore the first cut. i love the line "i'll take manhattan in a garbage bag / with latin written on it that says / 'it's hard to give a shit these days." lou and iggy both have that ability to weave seamlessly between the gutter and the stars. btw, i always wonder about mr. reed. he seems like he was either bad at being a drug addict or good at recovery and i've never known which. xo - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 20:42:38 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: like you're dying to know what i just got... On 4/9/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > Rex says: > > Why has that album, which is totally an artifact of its time, aged so > well? > > Maybe it's because Lou really seemed to know what he was talking about > for > > once. > > i was going to say something about "new york" then i thought you were > talking about "rock and roll animal" but now i'm back to "new york". > not that it would stop anyway It was "New York". I think I'm also especially fond of it because it was the first good new Lou record that came out after I got into the VU, but I still like it lots. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 00:23:14 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: spoiler (scroll down) SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE! - -- - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #140 ********************************