From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #127 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Thursday, March 29 2007 Volume 16 : Number 127 Today's Subjects: ----------------- re: apropos of corn [Benjamin Lukoff ] NYC Knitting Factory Show 03/28/07 ["m swedene" ] re: undigested [ken ostrander ] Spaceland ["Gary Sedgwick" ] Re: Apropos of Corn ["Michael Sweeney" ] re: from the yep roc newsletter... [ken ostrander Subject: re: apropos of corn On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, ken ostrander wrote: > the karma runs over the dogma. i think we're all divine assholes; > that's why when someone cuts me off or otherwise irks me i say > "namaste...asshole". or at least that's what we used to do. now we > like to just be thankful that we didn't die. Eh...I don't believe in karma anymore. Haven't since a lot of bad stuff happened to me six to seven years ago, in response to nothing I'd done. > i'm reminded of the enron-style web of subsidiaries and dummy > companies that is typically utilized to create an appearance of strength > as much as to hide the wrongdoing. the more complex a system is, the > more suspicious i become. So you're a small-government type? :) This is basically what I was saying--any large organization--government, corporation, union, church, whatever--is bound to have lots of problems. > people want to believe. they want to get their piece of "the american > dream", which is essentially (for most people) having enough material > resources to not have to work; ie. become part of the moneyed few as be > as wasteful as possible. as rex mentioned, there is a lot of money in People want not to have to work--but they don't REALLY want to be wasteful, do they? I mean, seriously wasteful? > there are a lot of community groups that are stymied by infighting and (most) :) > posturing. and the same is certainly true of public works. the thing > that works for a private corporation is that they can act quickly if > they deem it in their interest. groups that value consensus take a lot > longer to make decisions. but any group of people is only as efficient Case study: Seattle. > as the people in it. any organized structure can be brought down by > bureaucracy. sometimes individuals will embrace the bottleneck position > because it makes them feel powerful or needed or secure in their job. That's the main driver, isn't it? A desire for security? > we're all whores in one way or another. who're these willful > slackers who do not compromise their principles for personal gain? Some would argue there is no such person. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 01:33:46 -0400 From: "m swedene" Subject: NYC Knitting Factory Show 03/28/07 Just got home.... Great energy. Great show. Once I get a chance to split up tracks, I will seed the show on Dime. Highlights: No Guests, although Beck was there in the crowd. Shirts: 1) Main set: Black and White floral-esque pattern 2) Encore - Purple(y)/Blue with big flower 3) post show blue button down Highlights: Arms Of Love Chinese Bones Pink Moon Madonna of the Wasps So many to list.... and morning comes early. Have a Feggy Day! Mike ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:46:32 -0700 (PDT) From: ken ostrander Subject: re: undigested >>for the time being i have to make the most of blue's >> clues, wonderpets, and dragon tales. > >Oh noes. I don't know the middle one! The land of Little Girl TV has moved >on... my kids are growing up... sniff... that reminds me of 'click': "i missed the whole 'dragon tales' era?" wonder pets is the new currency. it's three singing animals who help other animals in trouble. now we need to find a way to help the parents who get in trouble absentmindedly singing the catchy little tunes from the show, making their little shuggies want to watch it immediately. >>>> the need to provide for, and explaing things to, others whom you love unconditionally, gives you a purpose, and a reason to separate the philosophical wheat from the chaff as you go along. If, when it comes down to it, it's not worth imparting to your child to help them deal with, then you can let go of needing to puzzle it out for yourself a little more easily. <<<< keep it simple. as a parent you really come to understand how a lot of the complications are just intellectual machismo. >>>> alternatives are to get into the business of sorting it out in some kind of organized way, through science, philosophy, religion, art... but not everyone can do that since somebody's gotta work in the sweatshops and Taco Bells... <<<< no one has to work anywhere. >Ken has a singular ability to mix and match references from current discussions< i'd like to thank the academy. and yaweh. >> leggo my ego. certainly, the show struggled with duchovney stopping by >> for cameos; but they soldiered on to complete the arc. > >I don't think the arc was completed in the least... it's been a while since i've seen the last episode; but the threads seemed to be neatly tied. they may not have done it as well as the high water mark of anasazi/blessing way/paper clip; but it was rather satisfying that the keeper of the truth was non other than cigarette man smoking through his tracheotomy hole. now we just have to wait for the mayan calandar to tick down to the arrival of the e.b.e.'s. ken "you throw open my future like a chart" the kenster - --------------------------------- Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:39:16 +0100 (BST) From: "Gary Sedgwick" Subject: Spaceland > News of the sold-out show got me edgy enough to go ahead and buy tickets for > the Spaceland show. I'm pretty much assuming I'm the only active feglister > going, but let me know if I'm wrong. Parking sucks around Spaceland so I'm > walking. Actually I was thinking of going... my wife and I are visiting the area the two weeks over Easter (flying into SF, down the coast to Monterey, Santa Barbara, over to Vegas, down to San Diego [I've got Surfer Ghost on the holiday compilation CD!] and finally up to LA... including the 12th!). We're staying at Huntington Beach though, which I'm guessing is quite a trek... so if parking's a nightmare I'm not sure we'll bother (we get to see Robyn a lot in London!). Any advice (off list) would be welcome! In fact, if anyone has any recommendations for unmissable things to do/places to see in California I'd be grateful (I've been to SF before but quite some time ago). BTW, my band (The Poppy Seeds, www.thepoppyseeds.com) are playing at the Hope & Anchor tomorrow evening. We've got some new mixes and a new song (The Tomb of Ligeia, written by our bass player and very Robyn-ish in my opinion) up on our website and myspace page (www.myspace.com/thepoppyseedsuk). Gary ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:36:06 +0000 From: "Michael Sweeney" Subject: Re: Apropos of Corn Rex transferred: >Thank you, that's good. A much more concise version of something I was >just >trying to explain to my therapist last night... Well done, Rex! If Eb is still lurking / reading, THAT oughta bring him flaming back to his keyboard and then to a mailbox near us! ...Not that I'm calling for that or anything... Michael Sweeney Loved the bit on "Raines" when Jeff Goldblum folded the therapist's card he'd been given, and then noticed (reading before and after the crease): "Hmmm: The...rapist. How inappropriate..." _________________________________________________________________ 5.5%* 30 year fixed mortgage rate. Good credit refinance. Up to 5 free quotes - *Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h2a5d&s=4056&p=5117&disc=y&vers=910 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 06:36:54 -0700 (PDT) From: ken ostrander Subject: re: from the yep roc newsletter... "Adventure Rocket Ship" ringtone now available! Click here to check it out." I think I'm legally to old to be able to legally make use of this... does anyfeg do the "ringtone" thing? Would this come out as a tinny little recording of part of the actual song, or kind of "ba-bleep-bleep blippit bleep" type or affair? << i actually prefer the "ba-bleep-bleep blippit bleep" type. i think it's a bit weird to have a snippit of the actual song. of course, if your phone is also an mp3 player it might not be so weird. >So yes, Virginia, and older Feg does do the ringtone thing. my verizon cell came with a selection of ringtones. i've been afraid to try and get anything else because i think that they expire and i don't want to get my cellphone number on a list. i have different rings depending on who is calling; so i can decide if i need to answer it or just shut off the ringer. >>> I'm waiting for somebody to deliver the really clever ringtones - shattering glass, snarling Rottweiler, crying baby, small arms fire - fun stuff like that. What could be more fun than hearing sqealing brakes and saying, "Excuse me, I need to take this"? <<< a friend of mine had his pager set to make a submarine ping. that was pretty cool. ken "you haven't changed like your number has" the kenster - --------------------------------- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:31:25 -0400 From: "Dominic Cordisco" Subject: Robyn Hitchcock - Music - Review - New York Times - Sent Using Google Toolbar This is from today's New York Times. Enjoy. Robyn Hitchcock - Music - Review - New York Times Skip to article - [image: TimesSelect] - Welcome, cordisco - Member Center - Log Out - TimesSelect Today - News Tracker - Today's Articles - Create Alert - Manage Alerts - Times File - Save This Page - My Saved Pages - Home Page - My Times - Today's Paper - Video - Most Popular - Times Topics [image: Rollover your IRA to E*TRADE Securities and receive up to $500] - Arts - All NYT [image: New York Times] Music - World - U.S. - N.Y. / Region - Business - Technology - Science - Health - Sports - Opinion - Arts - Style - Travel - Jobs - Real Estate - Autos - Art & Design - Books - Dance - Movies - Music - Television - Theater Music Review | Robyn Hitchcock Compassion, Indifference and Several Other Things Too Julien Jourdes for The New York Times Robyn Hitchcock, center, performed at the Knitting Factory with Venus 3, three members of R.E.M. - E-Mail - Print - Save - Share - Digg - Facebook - Newsvine - Permalink [image: Article Tools Sponsored By] By JON PARELES Published: March 29, 2007 Robyn Hitchcock's longtime fans cherish his whimsical free-associating banter between songs nearly as much as the catchy, surreal songs themselves. But on Tuesday night at the Knitting Factory, in an unusual burst of straightforwardness, he explained the artistic strategy he has been using since he arrived in 1977 as the leader of the Soft Boys, a neo-psychedelic band in the punk-rock era. Skip to next paragraph Enlarge This Image Julien Jourdes for The New York Times Robyn Hitchcock at the Knitting Factory with his band, the Venus 3. "It's all not so much meaningless as inconsequential, or ultimately painless, if you find the right level to watch things from," he said. "The trick is to have one eye full of compassion, and the other one has about 500 mil of indifference, and you kind of blend it." That blend wouldn't be complete without a few more balances: close observation and unhinged fantasy, humor and an unsparing recognition of death and deterioration. Add a lifelong fascination with insects, from an old song, "Kingdom of Love," which describes an infatuation as "You've been laying eggs under my skin," to the title song of his most recent album, "Oli! Tarantula" (Yep Roc). Mr. Hitchcock's imagery arrives in music that's a happy throwback to the mid-1960s, when psychedelic bands were packing their ideas into tuneful four-minute songs. At the Knitting Factory Mr. Hitchcock and his band played the early Pink Floyd single "See Emily Play," written by Syd Barrett, a compendium of ideas that would turn up in his own songs. They also played "Eight Miles High," the Byrds song about a West Coast band visiting London. Lately Mr. Hitchcock's music has made the return trip. He's an Englishman transplanted to Seattle, and his band, the Venus 3, is three members of R.E.M. who also live in the Pacific Northwest: R.E.M.'s founding guitarist, Peter Buck, and two current members, Bill Rieflin on drums and Scott McCaughey on bass. (R.E.M.'s members were early and enthusiastic Soft Boys fans.) While they can rev up to the near garage-rock of the early Soft Boys, they often give Mr. Hitchcock's songs the pealing guitar interplay and country tinge of California rock. The sound makes Mr. Hitchcock's songs a little more reflective; at 54, he doesn't pretend to have no past. Some of his newer songs, like "N.Y. Doll"  an imagined deathbed letter from the New York Dolls' original bassist, Arthur Kane  are unabashedly tender. But he hasn't changed so much in 30 years; what might be a narrow niche for some songwriters has proved to be endlessly productive for Mr. Hitchcock. His newest songs, and some of his oldest, strike the same quizzical balances: nutty and thoughtful, flinty and sympathetic, and always with a good tune to cling to amid joys or disasters. Next Article in Arts (4 of 14) ; Need to know more? 50% off home delivery of The Times. Ads by Google what's this? 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