From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #125 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, March 28 2007 Volume 16 : Number 125 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Apropos of Apple Corn ["Gene Hopstetter, Jr." ] Re: Apropos of Corn ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Apropos of Apple Corn [2fs ] Re: Name That Inappropriate Battlestar Galactica Tune ["Miles Goosens" ] Re: Apropos of Corn [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: Apropos of Corn ["Stewart C. Russell" ] Re: Name That Inappropriate Battlestar Galactica Tune ["Sumiko Keay" ] Re: Name That Inappropriate Battlestar Galactica Tune [Rex ] Re: Apropos of Corn [Rex ] Re: Apropos of Apple Corn [Rex ] Re: Apropos of Corn ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Apropos of Corn ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Robyn at Knitting Factory Tonight (Wed) [Steve Talkowski ] Re: Name That Inappropriate Battlestar Galactica Tune ["Sumiko Keay" Subject: Re: Apropos of Apple Corn > Subject: Re: Apropos of Corn > > I feel the same way whenever I look at our kernel code. Yeah. That'd pretty much explain Apple's implementation of SQL in OS X Server. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:25:46 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Apropos of Corn 2fs says: > Another amusing thing is that these arguments tend to boil down to *where* > one draws lines concerning motives other than profit. Almost no one will > argue that if there's a viable market for it, you should whore out your > daughters. Somehow, though, it's okay to sell loads of weapons - or > willfully evade regulations on toxic waste & poison entire communities. Personally, I think the difference is only in how soon your actions bite you in the ass. If people could see the consequence of some of their actions as soon as they can see they consequence of e.g. whoring out a daughter, they would likely deal with e.g. toxic waste in as ethical a way as they could. Of course there are places that daughters do get whored out without much thought, but that's a whole other and sadder can of worms. I don't really understand why people don't think further ahead, but I'm kind of a fatalist so it's not like I recommend my own personal point of view. Also, I don't particularly understand ambition which I believe is another thing that makes people who aren't me value the present over the future - i.e. if I were ambitious, maybe I would have an incentive not to think ahead. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:26:13 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Apropos of Apple Corn On 3/27/07, Gene Hopstetter, Jr. wrote: > > > Subject: Re: Apropos of Corn > > > > I feel the same way whenever I look at our kernel code. > > Yeah. That'd pretty much explain Apple's implementation of SQL in OS > X Server. Wait a minute: you were at a restaurant, and the server brought you squirrel in applesauce, with a kernel of corn in the middle? That's an odd dish - I won't even ask about "O Sex Server" (which is, I'm pretty sure, a mashup of Laurie Anderson's "O Superman," Salt'n'Pepa's "Let's Talk About Sex," and Dylan's "Gotta Serve Somebody." - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:38:30 -0500 From: "Miles Goosens" Subject: Re: Name That Inappropriate Battlestar Galactica Tune I have since discovered the blog o' the musician who did the "All Along the Watchtower" cover. Here's the story straight from "I happened to catch [BSG creator] Ron Moore in the hallway at Universal and, in a brief conversation, got everything I needed to know. I learned that the idea was not that Bob Dylan necessarily exists in the characters' universe, but that an artist on one of the colonies may have recorded a song with the exact same melody and lyrics. Perhaps this unknown performer and Dylan pulled inspiration from a common, ethereal source. Therefore, I was told to make no musical references to any "Earthly" versions, Hendrix, Dylan or any others. The arrangement needed to sound like a pop song that belonged in the Galactica universe, not our own." Later, he references Guns 'n' Roses and Rage Against the Machine in what he was going for in the cover - urk. Anyway, it's not this guy's fault - he just did what Ron Moore asked him to do. It's Ron's fault. later, Miles np: Billy Idol, "Eyes Without a Face" - for all his shallowness and inauthenticity, he had some great singles, didn't he? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:18:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Name That Inappropriate Battlestar Galactica Tune Miles Goosens wrote: > np: Billy Idol, "Eyes Without a Face" - for all his shallowness and > inauthenticity, he had some great singles, didn't he? I was really disappointed that his recording of "White Christmas" was actually him singing "White Christmas," and not a seasonal re-write of "White Wedding." "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 22:15:29 -0700 From: "Jason Brown" Subject: Re: Name That Inappropriate Battlestar Galactica Tune On 3/27/07, Miles Goosens wrote: > Anyway, it's not this guy's fault - he just did what Ron Moore asked > him to do. It's Ron's fault. And the guy does do a really good job with the show's score every week. I thought the inclusion of All Long the Watch tower in the dialogue was silly but strangely great. The cover was crap though. I would have liked to have seen them just use XTC's cover. Colin's bass kick's ass on that. Brilliant season finale though! I watched the last four episodes in one go and well, WOW! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:33:05 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: Name That Inappropriate Battlestar Galactica Tune On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, Jason Brown wrote: > I thought the inclusion of All Long the Watch tower in the dialogue > was silly but strangely great. The cover was crap though. I would > have liked to have seen them just use XTC's cover. Colin's bass kick's > ass on that. Brilliant season finale though! I watched the last four Wow, I had forgotten about XTC's cover of "All Along the Watchtower" until now. Thanks for reminding me of it :~) Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 06:11:59 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Name That Inappropriate Battlestar Galactica Tune Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > > Wow, I had forgotten about XTC's cover of "All Along the Watchtower" until > now. Thanks for reminding me of it :~) for years, it was the only version I knew. Stewart ps: I (indirectly) made metafilter last night: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 04:09:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Capuchin Subject: Re: Apropos of Corn On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, 2fs wrote: > That goes back to that _Guardian_ review I linked to a few e-mails back: > one of the problems is that, historically, the architects of capitalism > (the review names Adam Smith, if I recall) recognized and valued that > there were other sectors of life than business, and that those sectors > would (essentially) limit how far business practices would go. We don't > seem to believe that (as a society) any more, and want business-like > "efficiency" to pervade education, government, etc. Well, Adam Smith was both pre-industrial and pre-capitalist. He was also a classical liberal. If you actually read The Wealth Of Nations, you'll find that Smith actually writes against "monied firms" or corporations of any sort. It's all about proprietorships and individual craftspeople. > That said, certainly there are some things in which efficiency is a > virtue - say, energy production I know you are just using the parlance of our times, but we really have to stop writing crap like this. There is no such thing as "energy production". Indeed, the laws of thermodynamics are such that not only can we not ever increase the amount of energy, but every process will decrease the amount of available energy. Furthermore, we should stop using words like "fuel" to describe our energy sources. Every energy source we have is a battery of some kind. Every battery takes more energy to charge than we can extract from it later and every source from which we charge our batteries is some other kind of battery, etc., etc. -- going back to something elemental (electromagnetic, gravitational, or nuclear). With our vocabularies reflecting the natural processes more closely, we can start to make sensible decisions about what we consider "available" resources and how we might go about using them. And don't you hate it when you're wearing jeans and, for some reason, you have to put your hand into your pants and your nail catches the backside of a rivet. Man, that fucking hurts. My finger is pulsing right now. J. - -- _______________________________________________ Capuchin capuchin@bitmine.net Jeme A Brelin _______________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:21:00 +0200 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: Re: Apropos of Corn - --On 28. Mdrz 2007 04:09:01 -0700 Capuchin wrote: >> That said, certainly there are some things in which efficiency is a >> virtue - say, energy production > > I know you are just using the parlance of our times, but we really have > to stop writing crap like this. There is no such thing as "energy > production". Indeed, the laws of thermodynamics are such that not only > can we not ever increase the amount of energy, but every process will > decrease the amount of available energy. But yes, but no. Of course you are right - as long as you're talking about the entire universe. But that's taking "thinking globally" a bit far, isn't it? So at least for solar energy I'd say that it *is* actually "energy production", even though "energy conversion" would be more technically correct. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 07:17:36 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Apropos of Corn Capuchin wrote: > > I know you are just using the parlance of our times, but we really have > to stop writing crap like this. You're not being pedantic here, not /per se/, no ... > Every energy source we have is a battery of some kind. Except renewables. While the sun does technically deplete, it does so rather slowly, but when it's gone, we are *so* fucked it'll make peak oil seem like a picnic. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:01:09 -0500 From: "Sumiko Keay" Subject: Re: Name That Inappropriate Battlestar Galactica Tune I have to say that as excellent as it would have been to hear the Hendrix version on the show, it makes more sense that it would be an unknown-to-us cover version -- suggesting that BSG happens far in our future rather than in our past. Sumi On 3/27/07, 2fs wrote: > On 3/27/07, Miles Goosens wrote: > > > > Is "All Along the Watchtower," despite years of overplay, still a kick-ass > > song? > > > > Yes, it is. > > > > Did it belong in the BATTLESTAR GALACTICA season finale, where it was > > used not just as montage backdrop but as an integral component of the > > actual plot? > > > > No frackin' way. > > > > And the cover of "All Along the Watchtower" they used was blaringly > > awful - granted, using Dylan or Hendrix might have been cost > > prohibitive > > > No comments on the use of the song in the show, which I haven't seen - but I > don't understand why publishers are so reluctant to let shows use music in > shows, movies, etc. (that is, why they charge enough that it is > prohibitively expensive). Why would they turn down what is, essentially, > advertising? > > To me, it's stupid: "You've gotta pay us $750,000 to use one minute of this > song" - so, if the show happens to have just won Powerball sweepstakes, they > *might* do it - vs. the far likelier scenario that they can't afford it, > won't use it, and instead will use something else - publicity that will > accrue to some more obscure (cheaper) band. > > True, neither Dylan nor Hendrix need the publicity - but it's not just > mega-stars: can't remember who, but someone in a _Six Feet Under_ commentary > track mentioned some indie band they wanted to use but asked too much. > > And please, I don't think the costs are set high due to artist notions of > "integrity" (then it wouldn't be "prohibitively expensive" - it'd just be > "impossible" or "unavailable"). > > What am I missing here...? > > > -- > > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 09:01:53 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Apropos of Corn On 3/28/07, Capuchin wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, 2fs wrote: > > > That said, certainly there are some things in which efficiency is a > > virtue - say, energy production > > I know you are just using the parlance of our times, but we really have to > stop writing crap like this. There is no such thing as "energy > production". Indeed, the laws of thermodynamics are such that not only > can we not ever increase the amount of energy, but every process will > decrease the amount of available energy. > > Furthermore, we should stop using words like "fuel" to describe our energy > sources. Every energy source we have is a battery of some kind. Every > battery takes more energy to charge than we can extract from it later and > every source from which we charge our batteries is some other kind of > battery, etc., etc. -- going back to something elemental (electromagnetic, > gravitational, or nuclear). > > With our vocabularies reflecting the natural processes more closely, we > can start to make sensible decisions about what we consider "available" > resources and how we might go about using them. True enough - but it doesn't particularly address whether efficiency isn't a particularly worthwhile virtue. I'm saying that while it's certainly overemphasized, to the extent of being actively harmful in some applications, in others it's still of value. Even if other things (such as your argument above) might be worth more. And don't you hate it when you're wearing jeans and, for some reason, you > have to put your hand into your pants and your nail catches the backside > of a rivet. Man, that fucking hurts. My finger is pulsing right now. Damned inefficient trousers! Which for some reason reminds me of Wallace & Gromit... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:21:11 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Name That Inappropriate Battlestar Galactica Tune On 3/27/07, 2fs wrote: > > > It sounds like you're saying that instead, the copyright holders ask for > an > actual *sum* to sell *all* such hypothetical rights *upfront*. Basically, usually, yeah. Because the studios don't wanna have to go figure out all the legal hoo-ha again each time they "repurpose" (blech) a show. I'm led to understand that licensing performances is way harder than licensing the songs, because technically if you use 10 seconds of a track recorded in 1952, you still have to figure out if the guy who played the second bassoon is still alive so you can cut him a check for 35 cents or whatever. It's not my area of expertise, but I end up dealing with the consequences often enough. Most shows are mastered in a "split track format", with separate stereo dialogue, stereo effects, and stereo music (add laugh track for sitcoms) so they can be remixed for various purposes without going back to the original sound masters and starting from scratch. If you're dubbing it into a foreign language, you run just the music and effects and record new dialogue. If you're cutting a trailer, you'll run with just the dialogue and effects, but not the music, because you'll be replacing it with new music that fits the flow of the trailer. And yeah, you can replace the music for which you lose the rights, too. That's what I do for a living, kids. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:28:12 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Name That Inappropriate Battlestar Galactica Tune On 3/28/07, Stewart C. Russell wrote: > > Benjamin Lukoff wrote: > > > > Wow, I had forgotten about XTC's cover of "All Along the Watchtower" > until > > now. Thanks for reminding me of it :~) > > for years, it was the only version I knew. A lotta people I knew in High School thought it was a U2 song, until their friends mad fun of them for not knowing that Hendrix wrote it. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:31:08 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: Name That Inappropriate Battlestar Galactica Tune >np: Billy Idol, "Eyes Without a Face" - for all his shallowness and >inauthenticity, he had some great singles, didn't he? Did BillyI come out of the Bromley Contingent? No agenda, just wondering if anybody knows... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:37:43 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Name That Inappropriate Battlestar Galactica Tune On 3/28/07, Sumiko Keay wrote: > > I have to say that as excellent as it would have been to hear the > Hendrix version on the show, it makes more sense that it would be an > unknown-to-us cover version -- suggesting that BSG happens far in our > future rather than in our past. Isn't one of the conceits of BSG that you don't know when it happens relative to our timeframe (past/present/future/alternate reality), but that shared cultural refernces seem to suggest all of those possibilities at different times-- like shared mythology references, Earthly surnames, surprisingly contemporary civilian clothing and such? Reading about the show, that sort of thing has intrigued me: the way it's located somewhere between a Star Trekky future and a Star Warsy totally non-Earth-related reality that just happens to have humans in it, and it seems like they have fun playing with that notion. So, like, if we saw the fake Hendrixdylan from the BSG universe, would he be playing "Watchtower" on a Fender (TM) Stratocaster (TM) or a Fraktosonic Strakmaster? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:39:51 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: Apropos of Apple Corn squirrel >in applesauce, with a kernel of corn in the middle? That's an odd dish Fine traditional American cuisine. I don't know about the current edition but i always enjoyed looking in the back of the old Joy Of Cooking where you could learn, among other things, how to skin & prepare squirrel... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:55:45 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Apropos of Corn On 3/27/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > Also, I don't particularly understand ambition which I > believe is another thing that makes people who aren't me value the > present over the future - i.e. if I were ambitious, maybe I would have > an incentive not to think ahead. Thank you, that's good. A much more concise version of something I was just trying to explain to my therapist last night. Ambition seems to imply a willingness to, at the least, be a total asshole to get what you want, and often as not actually hurt people on the way, and certainly put your needs in the present over anybody else's in the future. Maybe this is endemic to competition itself. Since I don't want to be an asshole or hurt people, this would seem to suggest that I'm living in the wrong culture or something. What's weird is that almost all the ethics we're actually taught, including the morals in all of our entertainment, tell us to value each other over material things and power-- even the most prurient movie or TV show hews to the idea that people who do evil greedy things for their personal gain deserve punishment-- and just about all the religions people profess to follow tell us the same thing. And yet almost nobody actually lives this way, because things being what they are, it's really difficult. So I'm probably a fatalist, too... at the very least, it seems to me that our culture tells you not to be an asshole, but, nonetheless, assholes usually seem to win, and nobody's all that bothered about it. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:57:03 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Apropos of Apple Corn On 3/28/07, kevin wrote: > > squirrel > >in applesauce, with a kernel of corn in the middle? That's an odd dish > > Fine traditional American cuisine. I don't know about the current edition > but i always enjoyed looking in the back of the old Joy Of Cooking where you > could learn, among other things, how to skin & prepare squirrel... Ain'tcha never et squirrel before? It's not that bad. Tastes just like possum. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:23:50 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Apropos of Corn Capuchin says: > I know you are just using the parlance of our times, but we really have to > stop writing crap like this. There is no such thing as "energy > production". Indeed, the laws of thermodynamics are such that not only > can we not ever increase the amount of energy, but every process will > decrease the amount of available energy. > > Furthermore, we should stop using words like "fuel" to describe our energy > sources. Every energy source we have is a battery of some kind. Every > battery takes more energy to charge than we can extract from it later and > every source from which we charge our batteries is some other kind of > battery, etc., etc. -- going back to something elemental (electromagnetic, > gravitational, or nuclear). Yes, Jeff, you really do need to work on being a bit more articulate. BTW, I'm all for thermodynamics, but I don't know that nuclear fusion or nuclear fission decreases the amount of available energy and thus could be considered "energy production". I mean, there seems a limit to the amount of mass plus energy, but not necessarily all in the form of energy. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:37:34 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Apropos of Corn Rex says: > On 3/27/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > Also, I don't particularly understand ambition which I > > believe is another thing that makes people who aren't me value the > > present over the future - i.e. if I were ambitious, maybe I would have > > an incentive not to think ahead. > > > Thank you, that's good. A much more concise version of something I was just > trying to explain to my therapist last night. Ambition seems to imply a > willingness to, at the least, be a total asshole to get what you want, and > often as not actually hurt people on the way, and certainly put your needs > in the present over anybody else's in the future. Maybe this is endemic to > competition itself. Since I don't want to be an asshole or hurt people, > this would seem to suggest that I'm living in the wrong culture or > something. I don't inherently equate ambition with being an asshole although there does seem to be a correlation. I guess some people figure the grass is greener on the other side, and some don't. Ambition certainly has its uses - thank God they didn't leave the creation of the civilized world to me or we'd still be living in caves. Ambitious people are just so damn spunky. I always loved that point in "Neighborhood Threat" where Iggy says: "There's nothing to get." That sums things up rather well. Honestly, I'm too lazy to be an asshole. And anyway, wait long enough, and you'll see that the assholes don't really win anything anyway. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:47:47 -0400 From: Steve Talkowski Subject: Robyn at Knitting Factory Tonight (Wed) Anyone attend last night's show? I'm just catching up on a ton of list mail and was fortunate to be reminded of the two shows currently in NYC. I've got a ticket for tonight's show. I'm really looking forward to hearing Robyn with the Venus 3, as I missed them last time they were in town. Also, I forgot all about the 10pm screening of Sex, Food, Death ...& Insects last night (was watching the 2007 VES Awards on HDNET) but thankfully, it's airing again this Friday night and early Saturday morning: http://www.sundancechannel.com/films/500064014/ - -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:53:35 -0400 From: "m swedene" Subject: Re: Robyn at Knitting Factory Tonight (Wed) I tried to go to last night's gig and they were out of tickets. I too will be in attendance at tonight's gig. Mike On 3/28/07, Steve Talkowski wrote: > Anyone attend last night's show? I'm just catching up on a ton of > list mail and was fortunate to be reminded of the two shows currently > in NYC. I've got a ticket for tonight's show. I'm really looking > forward to hearing Robyn with the Venus 3, as I missed them last time > they were in town. > > Also, I forgot all about the 10pm screening of Sex, Food, Death ...& > Insects last night (was watching the 2007 VES Awards on HDNET) but > thankfully, it's airing again this Friday night and early Saturday > morning: > > http://www.sundancechannel.com/films/500064014/ > > -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 13:08:21 -0400 From: "Dominic Cordisco" Subject: Re: Robyn at Knitting Factory Tonight (Wed) I caught last night's show. It was my first (for Robyn Hitchcock). Apart from the obvious comment that he was awesome, he played several tracks from Tarantula (Ole, A Man's Gotta Know, Belltown Ramble), and a mix of older songs as well (Jewels for Sophia, Soft Boys). He also noted that he was going to play different stuff tonight. For the encore, we were treated both See Emily Play and Eight Miles High. Enjoy. On 3/28/07, Steve Talkowski wrote: > > Anyone attend last night's show? I'm just catching up on a ton of > list mail and was fortunate to be reminded of the two shows currently > in NYC. I've got a ticket for tonight's show. I'm really looking > forward to hearing Robyn with the Venus 3, as I missed them last time > they were in town. > > Also, I forgot all about the 10pm screening of Sex, Food, Death ...& > Insects last night (was watching the 2007 VES Awards on HDNET) but > thankfully, it's airing again this Friday night and early Saturday > morning: > > http://www.sundancechannel.com/films/500064014/ > > -Steve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:12:26 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Apropos of Corn On 3/28/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > > I don't inherently equate ambition with being an asshole although > there does seem to be a correlation. I guess some people figure the > grass is greener on the other side, and some don't. Ambition > certainly has its uses - thank God they didn't leave the creation of > the civilized world to me or we'd still be living in caves. Prolly'd be less genocide, though. Ambitious people are just so damn spunky. Yes, that bugs, too. > > Honestly, I'm too lazy to be an asshole. And anyway, wait long > enough, and you'll see that the assholes don't really win anything > anyway. True, but everyone thinks they do, which also kinda bugs, although it most likely shouldn't. I'm not really lazy, I just don't seem to be very talented at stuff that's basic to most humans, like thinking money is great. Alas and alack, I guess. - -R ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:57:56 -0500 From: "Sumiko Keay" Subject: Re: Name That Inappropriate Battlestar Galactica Tune Apparently, he'd be using a sitar. And having read Bear McCreary's blog I see that they were going for something more vague than I thought. Sumi On 3/28/07, Rex wrote: > > > On 3/28/07, Sumiko Keay wrote: > > I have to say that as excellent as it would have been to hear the > > Hendrix version on the show, it makes more sense that it would be an > > unknown-to-us cover version -- suggesting that BSG happens far in our > > future rather than in our past. > > Isn't one of the conceits of BSG that you don't know when it happens > relative to our timeframe (past/present/future/alternate reality), but that > shared cultural refernces seem to suggest all of those possibilities at > different times-- like shared mythology references, Earthly surnames, > surprisingly contemporary civilian clothing and such? Reading about the > show, that sort of thing has intrigued me: the way it's located somewhere > between a Star Trekky future and a Star Warsy totally non-Earth-related > reality that just happens to have humans in it, and it seems like they have > fun playing with that notion. > > So, like, if we saw the fake Hendrixdylan from the BSG universe, would he be > playing "Watchtower" on a Fender (TM) Stratocaster (TM) or a Fraktosonic > Strakmaster? > > -Rex ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #125 ********************************