From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #118 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, March 23 2007 Volume 16 : Number 118 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: catnip [Rex ] Re: WTF, America? WTF? [2fs ] Re: RH and the Venus 3 - Atlanta (Uploaded) [FSThomas ] Re: WTF, America? WTF? [Rex ] Re: catnip [Rex ] Re: catnip [Carrie Galbraith ] Re: catnip/hoot hoot! [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: WTF, America? WTF? [Benjamin Lukoff ] Re: WTF, America? WTF? [Carrie Galbraith ] Re: Philly show ["Maximilian Lang" ] Re: catnip [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: sasquatch gigolo service (est. 1982) [Jeff Dwarf ] Re: catnip [Benjamin Lukoff ] RE: catnip/hoot hoot! ["michael wells" ] Re: catnip ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: catnip/hoot hoot! ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:38:26 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: catnip > On 3/23/07, Dolph Chaney wrote: > > > > Possibly maybe there is an age link here, as evidenced by the 4 cats in > > our > > extended family... That was the common wisdom passed along to me by my ex-landlord, a noted crazy-cat-lady type. Also just plain crazy. But everyone in that apartment building had cats (that was actually how you got in) and she gave us all catnip, and sure enough, within our not-statistically-significant test group, the older cats dug it more. Bal (10 years) is a violent drunk and loves the fresh > > catnip. Missrus (10 years) gets so into it that she ends up with her > head > > covered in damp catnip from all the drooling. Bicky (4 years) and Ari > (8 > > years) just Do. Not. Care. > Jeff: > Our current kitties, Lumen and Oranj, seem pretty much uninterested in the > stuff. Apparently more fegs have cats than I'd realized, and all of the cats have cool names. She's ready for dinner, Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:58:56 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: WTF, America? WTF? On 3/23/07, Rex wrote: > > > > On 3/23/07, 2fs wrote: > > > > > I'm inclined to believe that, like a lot of large-voiced > > prognostications, > > the claims that no one's going to buy CDs (or whatever other physical > > media > > they might make such claims for) will prove rather exaggerated. > > > I'm... not so sure. For my own damned self, compared to, say, three years > ago, I buy a lot fewer CD's. Like, almost none, certainly fewer than one a > month, as opposed to prolly over a hundred a year in the recent past. In my > individual case, there's a confluence of reasons: > > 1) Downtick in disposible income > Okay, that's gonna influence things, for you anyway... 2) Discovery of ways to get stuff for free > True, universally. 3) Less time to go brick and mortar shopping > 4) Far fewer places to go brick and mortar shopping, what with mass > closings of record stores, owing to people already having stoppped buying > CD's long before I did > 5) The remaining brick and mortar not having as good a selection as half > of what you can download... why... in fact... > 6) ...there's a lot of stuff available online that they won't sell you IRL > even if you want it... out of print material, live stuff, things I've heard > of but never come across in a bin, and... hey, I can live off this stuff for > years! > Some of this, though, has to do with our Being Old. Or not. I don't know. Anyway: 7) Artwork for CD's is kind of lame anyway, compared to the even-more > outmoded vinyl that I'm old-school enough to prefer anyway; the artwork > images are findable online if I need them. > Artwork for CDs is lame only if/when it's not designed for CD. Nothing stupider than simply photo-reducing album-sized artwork. Like anything else, you have to design for the medium. There are plenty of CDs I have whose artwork could *not* have worked in LP format (we've had this discussion here, in fact). But: 8) Carrying iPod from location to location is easier than porting great gobs > of CD's and cannot possibly result in damage to the original media which > sits safely at home on a hard drive, whereas jewel cases get cracked, > scuffed, the discs themselves scratched... okay, so I'm not meticulous with > my stuff when I'm out and about, but... > It is, true. There's still the organization problem, and the artistic problem. I think what'll happen (what *is* happening) is that "album artists" (and, maybe, physical media: note that I also suggested a way for digital retailers to offer nearly as much value-added stuff as physical media currently offers - at which point, all your args are probably correct: *I'd* switch over if all my music could be on an iPod, with the opportunity to port to a larger screen to view images, informational text, etc. WHy carry around CDs? Where this is going, I think, is that 'the album" and "physical media" are two different things (and talking about their futures, therefore, should be two separate discussions). Oh: by "organizational problem" I mean the fact that I think most listeners like the notion of being able to put their music into some sort of digestible chunk. You can do that yourself, of course - but I think there's good solid reasons most artists are still releasing CDs that are album-length (and not just because rec.co.'s are dinosaurs). You outline some in your post (quoted below). and the album rather than single issue could > > be addressed by discounting album vs. single prices (which is often done > > > > already) to encourage more serious listeners to pick up entire albums > > rather > > than "just the hit single" (man we're in a "quote Joe Jackson" mood > > recently). > > > What I think is kind of interesting about this is that while the albums > are sort of afterthoughts for stuff that's designed to be commercial > (American Idol / tweenybopper stuff), hip hop competes easily with pure pop > in sales terms, and rappers are every bit as enamored of the album format as > rockers, albeit in a bloated, skit-laden iteration. (Not that a lot of rock > albums in the CD age don't suffer from similar bloat-- they do, or did.) > I think this was always true, though. Frivolous fans bought the sheet music or the single; serious fans went to jazz shows and knew all the songs, even transcribing the solos. When the album-as-coherent-artistic-statement was invented (some time in the '50s: Sinatra, a couple of country guys, some jazzers), it was clearly a more "adult" medium than the single. And tween-pop people trying to reinvent themselves as serious artists > (Aguilera, Timberlake) need a whole album to do that, partly because albums > are putatively grownup, artistic enterprises that show seriosity just by > being made, and partly because you need a whole set of songs and themes and > costumed photos and stuff for people to latch onto and write about when they > profile the New Artist You've Become. (Which is all the more ironic, since > didn't we all mostly agree that the downloading of Timberlakes's album by > people who probably wouldn't gave spent money on it was part of what made it > end up on so many unexpected Top 10 lists in '06?) > > Hell, I'm even a guy in a band hoping to get my music heard, so I'm > struggling to figure it out from that angle. I'm pretty sure now that that > neat dream of "cutting a record", if it happens, is going to take quite a > different shape than the one I imagined when I first started playing in > bands. Right now I'm happily offering our music free for download, and > giving CDR's away at every show, because I'm pretty sure that if the best > case scenario comes to pass and my music becomes the engine behind any movements > of small green pieces of paper, I no longer expect the paper to be exchanged > for metallic-looking plastic discs. > What's weird is that the single itself as selling point (i.e., as radio track and sales object) seems obsolete...and more and more artists are making their impact via soundtrack/ad placement and internet buzz. My home stereo's amplifier is acting wonky (it's quite elderly) so I'm thinking of buying a new one. Mebbe I should just buy a good iPod (which I don't currently own one of) instead then? Problem is, I like listening to music in the air (as well as in good headphones): it's definitely a different effect than just having it plugged into your ears. Another thing that might send me over the edge away from CDs (there'll still be *some* physical media - even if it's just a hard drive): if car stereos siwtch over to allowing to plug in a jump drive or something. If I can bring a gigabyte's worth of music into the car with me (and pop it into my pocket once I park the car), I'd be pretty happy. Here's an interesting issue: am I the only one who sees a potential problem in putting too much music in too little space? What I mean is this: the smaller the object (and again, tehre will always be physical media even if only a drive or other storage unit of some sort - and portability - whether of a physical object or access to the media - will remain important, I think), and the more stuff that's on it, the more valuable it becomes. So that necessitates backup. And of course, accessibility (when I fire up a cassette these days - usually, only to digitize it - it's maddening having to actually *wait* to get to the song I want, even in ffwd). Even if it's possible to store my entire collection in some portable object the size of a penny, would I want to? Too easy to lose, isn't it? (And to lose the backup object as well...) 'Course, all that'll probably be solved when people start getting body mods that allow such "pennies" simply to be inserted directly into the body. I mean, if people can get surgical-steel fucking *horns* implanted into their heads, why not? (Humorists will no doubt store their music collections exactly where you might guess: "hey, look what I just pulled out of my ass: the complete works of Phil Collins!") - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 18:33:25 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: RH and the Venus 3 - Atlanta (Uploaded) oliver wrote: > I'm getting some flac errors on some of these files: > > 11-RHV3-20070320.flac: testing, 80% complete: ERROR while decoding data > 13-RHV3-20070320.flac: testing, 10% complete: ERROR while decoding data > 16-RHV3-20070320.flac: testing, 29% complete: ERROR while decoding data > 17-RHV3-20070320.flac: ERROR while decoding data > 18-RHV3-20070320.flac: ERROR while decoding data > 19-RHV3-20070320.flac: testing, 26% complete: ERROR while decoding data > 22-RHV3-20070320.flac: testing, 63% complete: ERROR while decoding data > 23-RHV3-20070320.flac: testing, 71% complete: ERROR while decoding data > 30-RHV3-20070320.flac: testing, 62% complete: ERROR while decoding data > 31-RHV3-20070320.flac: testing, 16% complete: ERROR while decoding data > > Looks like the upload errored out because the file sizes are rather > small too. For example: > 13) Ole Tarantula 3.1M > 18) Madonna of the Wasps 1.9M Known issue. I caught the difference in size on one of the files and, never having posted anything to the site before, contacted them. I have to re-upload the files and while I'm in the process of it, it takes *ages* due to their size. - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:10:55 -0000 (GMT) From: "Melissa Higuchi" Subject: Re: catnip > Apparently more fegs have cats than I'd realized, and all of the cats have > cool names. > not mine. spooky and smokey came to me preowned and already named. the next ones will be nyarlathotep or something. they both adore catnip. Smokey gets really lazy and Spooky gets really agressive. This leads to some amusing scenes where the 12lb cat has the 18lb cat pinned by the neck and we have to go break things up. Cosmic Catnip seems to be the most effective brand for them. Always guaranteed to lead to silly playful critters. melissa ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:53:34 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: WTF, America? WTF? On 3/23/07, 2fs wrote: > > On 3/23/07, Rex wrote: > > Some of this, though, has to do with our Being Old. Or not. I don't know. It does, but "as a people", we oldsters are the only ones still bothering with physical media. Those of us frequenting Starbucks in particular, I suppose. My oldness pushes me both ways on this issue. Artwork for CDs is lame only if/when it's not designed for CD. Nothing > stupider than simply photo-reducing album-sized artwork. Like anything > else, > you have to design for the medium. There are plenty of CDs I have whose > artwork could *not* have worked in LP format (we've had this discussion > here, in fact). That's true (although it took designers a while to work it out). Still, I actually like the way a lot of CD artwork looks when it's blown up to LP size... more than not, and with a lot (most, probably) of my CD's having been originally issued on LP, it tilts my preference towards looking at any given album cover towards bigness. If it's just sitting there on a screen it can be any old size, I guess (look out for the boomer-marketed laptop with the 12X12 screen). > > Where this is going, I think, is that 'the album" and "physical media" are > two different things (and talking about their futures, therefore, should > be > two separate discussions). > > Oh: by "organizational problem" I mean the fact that I think most > listeners > like the notion of being able to put their music into some sort of > digestible chunk. You can do that yourself, of course - but I think > there's > good solid reasons most artists are still releasing CDs that are > album-length (and not just because rec.co.'s are dinosaurs). Probably right, and it'll be interesting how this all pans out. There's kind of a model long in place where the album has a sort of vague theme which ties into the artwork which is then reproduced and expanded into the t-shirts, the set design for the tour, the press materials, etc. so that the album cover is just one of a set of visual signifiers for that "set" of songs. Maybe it'll just become a less important part of the puzzle. We might think of albums as more like "eras" of an artist's output, to include b-sides, interviews, and contemporaneous live shows (isn't every live show by everybody on earth (except Neko Case) documented and torrented already anyhow?)... this kind of makes sense anyway. Unless you don't tour the record, but that should be fine, too. (And is it just me or has the average rock CD finally started getting shorter now that CD's are on the way out... and usually better for it?) > I think this was always true, though. Frivolous fans bought the sheet > music > or the single; serious fans went to jazz shows and knew all the songs, > even > transcribing the solos. When the album-as-coherent-artistic-statement was > invented (some time in the '50s: Sinatra, a couple of country guys, some > jazzers), it was clearly a more "adult" medium than the single. I think your analogy is right, and it was ever thus, just in slightly different ways. I don't want to be taken as joining the chorus whining about an "ADD generation" or anything, because that division in the way people ingest their art has definitely been around for a while. I think that one area where the AMERICAN IDOL concept does penetrate the public consciousness is that it's a move farther away from the artist-as-songwriter model of the rock era than we've seen before... but even that could be temporary. The audience that got mad at the Monkees for not playing their own instruments probably wouldn't have cared about that when they first became Monkees fans... they just grew up and took shit for their Monkee fandom from their older brothers who listened to the Doors or whatever and thus were primed to abandon their idols already, so maybe AI will work out that way, too. Doubt it, but hey. > What's weird is that the single itself as selling point (i.e., as radio > track and sales object) seems obsolete...and more and more artists are > making their impact via soundtrack/ad placement and internet buzz. Maybe it's just that the press and/or the zeitgeist haven't yet come up with a word for a single that's not a single. "Emphasis track" just doesn't pop, does it? is, I like listening to > music in the air (as well as in good headphones): it's definitely a > different effect than just having it plugged into your ears. That's a big thing. I listen to my iPod in the air at work. Through an ancient boombox, in fact, with the help of a stereo y-adaptor. What's kind of funny is that I think my iPod's battery has been dead for years, but I just recently found out. I always use it plugged into an AC adaptor and haven't put headphones in it for years, literally. > Here's an interesting issue: am I the only one who sees a potential > problem > in putting too much music in too little space? I thought about that when I thought that the next step was going to be mega-CD's, where you could get like the whole Beatles catalogue on one disc: what would the packaging for *that* look like? In comparison to that, the stuff-on-a-hard-drive with associated image files model is less bothersome. But of course nobody in the future will even have to consider that possibility because it didn't/won't happen. > Even if it's > possible to store my entire collection in some portable object the size of > a > penny, would I want to? Too easy to lose, isn't it? (And to lose the > backup > object as well...) Possibly. All my stuff is on two external hard drives. I need to buy a new one big enough to back both of them up and I'll feel pretty safe. Maybe there really is a point between the size of a cigar box (an outboard drive) and a penny (your hypothetical nano drive) where something becomes small enough to be too "loseable". But the iPod takes care of that for me, since it's only carrying copies of what's on the drives. I don't wanna lose my iPod, but better that than the drives. The real scary thing at this point is, if I did lose the drives, I'd never be able to reconstruct what the hell I'd lost... too many records on there, man! > > (Humorists will no doubt store their music collections exactly where you > might guess: "hey, look what I just pulled out of my ass: the complete > works > of Phil Collins!") "Hey, put that back where it belongs!" - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:57:18 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: catnip On 3/23/07, Melissa Higuchi wrote: > > not mine. spooky and smokey came to me preowned and already named. the > next ones will be nyarlathotep or something. I had a pre-owned cat named Chrissy once. Yeah, she seemed pretty pissed off about it, too. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:08:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: catnip - -----Original Message----- >From: Rex >> not mine. spooky and smokey came to me preowned and already named. the >> next ones will be nyarlathotep or something. > >I had a pre-owned cat named Chrissy once. Yeah, she seemed pretty pissed >off about it, too. Pierpz came to me preowned with the name "pepe" which was short for "salt & pepper" named by my niece when she was 5. Pierpz is the polish word for pepper. In the end, his full name (and the name everyone still uses when talking about him) became: Pierpz Angus Ali Mohammed Morales Wong. He didn't seem to mind it at all. Meanwhile my niece, now 21, has a cat I named: Penelope June. It fits. - - c ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 11:27:56 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: catnip/hoot hoot! >Anyway, today I *did* look it up and was surprised to find that it's >something I wasn't familiar with in real life. According to the German >Wikipedia it's a North American phenomenon. It's not entirely clear to me >whether that means the cats' reaction is specific to the US and Canada >(only 2/3s of all cats seem to respond anyway), whether the right kind of >nepeta plant only grows there, or whether people in other regions of the >earth just don't get such a kick out of seeing their pets behave that way!? North American? Pretty common in both the UK and NZ, too. I'm surprised it's unknown in mainland Europe. Both Nut and Bolt love the taste of the stuff, but it doesn't seem to make much change to ther personalities (not that you could tell with Nut - he lives up to his name). > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070322/ap_on_sc/peru_rare_owl > > > >Caught in a "mist-net"? Yeah - netting is often the best way to catch mist, though it has to be a very fine mesh. The trouble is getting it to approach the net in the first place. As I'm sure you know if you've ever been in a mist, it recedes from you slightly so that wherever you move you can see the same distance. The best way to get mist to approach is to beckon it with calls - which is why the foghorn was invented. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:58:05 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: WTF, America? WTF? On Fri, 23 Mar 2007, Rex wrote: > On 3/23/07, 2fs wrote: > > > > On 3/23/07, Rex wrote: > > > > Some of this, though, has to do with our Being Old. Or not. I don't know. > > It does, but "as a people", we oldsters are the only ones still bothering > with physical media. Those of us frequenting Starbucks in particular, I > suppose. My oldness pushes me both ways on this issue. I still see the occasional youngster in the used record store... Anyway, downloading liner notes just doesn't work for me. Anyone seen http://www.ilovethatsong.com/green? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:00:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: Re: WTF, America? WTF? - -----Original Message----- >From: Rex > >Artwork for CDs is lame only if/when it's not designed for CD. Nothing >> stupider than simply photo-reducing album-sized artwork. Like anything >> else, >> you have to design for the medium. There are plenty of CDs I have whose >> artwork could *not* have worked in LP format (we've had this discussion >> here, in fact). > > >That's true (although it took designers a while to work it out). Still, I >actually like the way a lot of CD artwork looks when it's blown up to LP >size... more than not, and with a lot (most, probably) of my CD's having >been originally issued on LP, it tilts my preference towards looking at any >given album cover towards bigness. My friend Winston has been creating art for LPs for years (since the late 70s) and the first time he did a cd (for Tijuana No) he grokked it immediately. He has since created wonderful cd art that takes full advantage of the format, the latest being for Ben Harper I belive. >That's a big thing. I listen to my iPod in the air at work. Through an >ancient boombox, in fact, with the help of a stereo y-adaptor. What's kind >of funny is that I think my iPod's battery has been dead for years, but I >just recently found out. I always use it plugged into an AC adaptor and >haven't put headphones in it for years, literally. > I hate those ear buds, they hurt my ears. And I prefer my 'pod swinging in the breeze. Doesn't seem to bother my coworkers but with presses running and the pressmen cursing, I doubt anyone hears my strange music anyway. I just use the speakers on my work mac, they aren't too bad. Be Seeing You, - - c ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:11:14 -0400 From: "Maximilian Lang" Subject: Re: Philly show >From: "Lauren Elizabeth" >To: "a sweet little cupcake...baked by the devil!" >Subject: Re: Philly show >Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:13:11 -0400 >I'm not sure what the latest plan was but I have found out more on my >end. Unfortunately, my "date" is coming from Lionville so I doubt >I'll get there before the opening act. But I would love to at least >say hello to folks. I have to meet up with the three people joining me prior to going (will call tix) so it's anybody's guess what time everyone will have their respective acts together. There is a chance I could get everyone in gear and over to someplace to meet but it's likely that I'll just end up seeing everyone there at the show. Is Roberta going to be there? Max _________________________________________________________________ Exercise your brain! Try Flexicon. http://games.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmemailtaglinemarch07 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:19:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: catnip Dolph Chaney wrote: > Bicky (4 years) and Ari (8 years) just Do. Not. Care. They're > all Nancy Reagan style just say no cats. They wear D.A.R.E. > buttons on their jean jackets. That doesn't mean they don't care; it just means they're doing it behind your back and laughing at you while they're doing it. "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:33:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: sasquatch gigolo service (est. 1982) Rex wrote: > I'd try catnip with Exene again, but honestly she finds enough > stuff to behave spastically about on her own (most recently a > plastic bag which got attached to her and caused her to rocket > around the house "fleeing" it-- looking somewhat like those > dragracers that have to deploy a parachute behind them to slow > down. Honestly didn't think she was gonna stop, but she > finally did, under the bed, panting and refusing to look over her > shoulder because it was... still there). My mother's cat, Prudence, did that once on Christmas morning with a gift bag. She finally calmed down around Valentine's Day. She's a little batty anyways, though in her defense she was dosed by her original owner when she was 4 months old. And yes, when I say dosed, I do mean given LSD. "Children have always enjoyed my movies. They are just not allowed to watch many of them." -- John Waters . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:51:31 -0700 From: "Jason Brown" Subject: Re: catnip On 3/23/07, Rex wrote: > On 3/23/07, Melissa Higuchi wrote: > > > > not mine. spooky and smokey came to me preowned and already named. the > > next ones will be nyarlathotep or something. > > I had a pre-owned cat named Chrissy once. Yeah, she seemed pretty pissed > off about it, too. My pre-owned cat is named Nixon which wouldn't necessarily by my first choice of names! Funny thing is that Nixon's pre-owner now works for the state Democratic party. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:11:28 -0800 (PST) From: Benjamin Lukoff Subject: Re: catnip On Fri, 23 Mar 2007, Jason Brown wrote: > On 3/23/07, Rex wrote: > > On 3/23/07, Melissa Higuchi wrote: > > > > > > not mine. spooky and smokey came to me preowned and already named. the > > > next ones will be nyarlathotep or something. > > > > I had a pre-owned cat named Chrissy once. Yeah, she seemed pretty pissed > > off about it, too. > > My pre-owned cat is named Nixon which wouldn't necessarily by my first > choice of names! Funny thing is that Nixon's pre-owner now works for > the state Democratic party. I always thought Spiro would be a cute name for a cat. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:23:59 -0700 From: "michael wells" Subject: RE: catnip/hoot hoot! > which is why the foghorn was invented. You have to admire the sickness that not only came up with this joke, but followed it through in public. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:32:16 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: catnip does anyone aside from ken have a dog with a name? xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:29:52 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: catnip/hoot hoot! James says: > Yeah - netting is often the best way to catch mist, though it has to > be a very fine mesh. The trouble is getting it to approach the net in > the first place. As I'm sure you know if you've ever been in a mist, > it recedes from you slightly so that wherever you move you can see > the same distance. The best way to get mist to approach is to beckon > it with calls - which is why the foghorn was invented. And *do not* shine a light on it or it will attack without mercy. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #118 ********************************