From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #116 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Friday, March 23 2007 Volume 16 : Number 116 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: All You 'Til Tuesday Fans... [kevin ] Re: All You 'Til Tuesday Fans... [kevin ] Re: RH and the Venus 3 - Atlanta (Uploaded) [FSThomas ] Re: like you're dying to know what i just got... [Rex ] Re: my name is "Eddie" and my johnson has an auto-zoom [2fs ] Re: RH and the Venus 3 - Atlanta (Uploaded) [FSThomas ] Re: my name is [kevin ] Mini-Reviews You can Use ["Stacked Crooked" ] All the latest squid news [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Name That Tune ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] se: sasquatch gigolo service (est. 1982) [ken ostrander ] Re: like you're dying to know what i just got... ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: my name is "Eddie" and my johnson has an auto-zoom [craigie* ] Re: sasquatch gigolo service (est. 1982) [Rex ] re: like you're dying to know what i just got... [kevin Subject: RE: All You 'Til Tuesday Fans... PT Anderson >seems to have disappeared. One bomb with "Punch Drunk Love" and he's no >longer the hot commodity in Hollywood anymore. Too bad, as "Hard Eight", >"Boogie Nights" and "Magnolia" all had some very nice moments in them. The wife purely loves Punch Drunk Love, which I have to admit is pretty tasty even though Adam Sandler by & large makes my skin crawl with that recycled Jerry Lewis schtick. His pas-de-deux with Don Cheedle on Letterman the other night was fun though. NP Forgotten Songs: Dawn Upshaw Sings Debussy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:25:51 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: All You 'Til Tuesday Fans... >I hope that Record Company Execs take up strangling each other as an Olympic >sport. > >Problem: What do we do with the eventual winner? Skeet shoot with Dick Cheney? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:49:45 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: RH and the Venus 3 - Atlanta (Uploaded) Tom Clark wrote: > On Mar 22, 2007, at 9:36 AM, FSThomas wrote: > >> Afterlife > > Afterlight? That would be the one. - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:11:13 -0700 (PDT) From: ken ostrander Subject: re: like you're dying to know what i just got... i haven't worked with film for years. my college roomate has some nice projection equipment he gave me the first camera i had that i was able to use: the nikon zoomtouch 600. it was fully automatic and you could play around with all sorts of features. it had a great lens on it and a panoramic feature. i remember making groups of people stand and wait for the waves of super red eye reduction flashes (and the timer). when the automatic film rewind went on it i soldiered forth for a time, going into dark closets to manually remove it safely and wind the film; but since the shutter began to open and close haphazzardly. i probably could still work with it if i had the desire. my sharp camcorder vla10u took great video for many years. the squarish shape made it easy to just set it down and record or you could hold it steady against your stomach and look down at the little screen. it has weathered trips around the world, parties, concerts, and protests. the mechanism began to vibrate such that recordings had that old fashioned projector sound drowning out everything else and eventually compromising the image integrity. it's difficult to even watch the old videos. it brings me back to my childhood with the rabbit ears and the vertical adjustment knob. our first digital camera is the silver olympus stylus 300 digital which has stood us in good stead for four years. you really can take it anywhere. it fits in your pocket, though that practice has undoubtedly led to it being very slow with the sliding lens cover loose and wobbley. yesterday afternoon i pulled it out of my pocket and it was not on the camera; so i had to fish in my pocket and pop it back on. it still works. our sony digital handycam dcrtrv22 has been a bit of a disappointment compared to the sharp. the images are less vivid and the fact that it uses those mini dv cassettes makes it seem like it's not really digital. our new black canon powershot s31s is fabulous. we have a memory card that can hold about a thousand pictures. it also takes video, which eats up a lot of memory; but it is the only video that we can work with on the computer right now. still learning all of the features; but we tend to like pictures taken without the flash better than with. the flash washes out all of the color, while the images are more warm without it. it makes for a lot of blurry shots; but it's worth it when you get a really good one. >> are you forgetting about the wind-on and focus delay, not to mention the bloody irritating film-rewind-and-change bit every 20-36 frames? << i forgot to forget to remember. the first time my camera didn't rewind the film i pulled the whole roll out and exposed it in a fit of monkeyshit frustration. i always went for thirty six to extend the time between film changes. and the cost each time was steep. now i have a suitcase full of old photos. i gave most of the negatives to my old roomate to play with. >> A whole school of photography is going to die >> unless Voigtlander or Konica or Leica get off their butts and finally make >> a decent digital rangefinder. > >Oh, that's just market forces at work... sacrificed on the alter of consumerism for the good of the common denominator. throw on all of your fancy old school equipment and we will give you what we think you should want. we'll change our minds in a few years. >>>>>>>> >>>The quietness is a BIG advantage for candid shots (as is the fact >>>that so many people have cameras around their necks nowadays that >>>very few people take any notice). nudge-nudge, wink-wink, say no more. i'm big on the candid. after years of getting people to pose, i prefer to catch them in a more natural frame. some folks get all tense in their face when they know there's camera pointed at them. >>I find it endlessly amusing that many digital cameras signal that >>they've taken an "exposure" by reproducing what sounds like an >>audio sample of the sound of a shutter clicking through a tiny >>speaker that they probably don't need. it is a charming reminder for those who know what that sound actually is. >the sounds of the shutter opening and closing are two of the best >sounds in the world*. > >but they can't be faked. i don't know about that. if you mean that they cannot reproduce the sound without recording it, then you might be right. >The delay is a HUGE problem a far >as I'm concerned, particularly for candid, wildlife, and action shots. > >Okay, so it's not just me... but the question remains...why why why >do are all these technologically advanced cameras simply incapable >of actually taking a picture when you press the button that's >supposed to make them do that? The shittiest computer keyboard >prints a character as soon as you touch it, so what's the stumbling >block here? It's the time taken to sense the correct fcoal length and move the lens elements to the correct position, IIRC. <<<<<<<< so if you are doing everything manually, there won't be the delay? sometimes the delay leads to a great candid shot; but more often i find myself deleting fuzzy shots of the back of shuggie's head. it has taught me to just shoot and hope for the best. faith photography. like this: > pinhole photography day, 2005: > http://www.pinholeday.org/gallery/2005/index.php?gc=y i had a friend in boston who used one. the pictures were so dreamy. when they came out. ken "every time I see your face, it reminds me of the places we used to go" the kenster - --------------------------------- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:34:03 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Wanna bet? Tom Clark says: > Probably because I just lost seven minutes of my life to this: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGO2hVA3P58 Uh, what the fuck *was* that? xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:49:50 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: like you're dying to know what i just got... On 3/22/07, ken ostrander wrote: > > > ken "every time I see your face, it reminds me of the places we used to > go" the kenster And back to Ringo. photographs don't smell And back to Robyn. Fegthreads end with such satisfying closure these days one is tempted to believe that everyone here is a sock and the whole list is a singular artist's vision. But whose? - -Rex "my money's on Terrance Marks" Broome ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:52:50 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Wanna bet? I say: > Uh, what the fuck *was* that? ...and how could a plot that bad be wasted by containing no porn? xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:53:10 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: my name is "Eddie" and my johnson has an auto-zoom On 3/22/07, Michael Wells wrote: > > > the 'fro! Or maybe he can reverse-pageboy that thing with an outward > flip. I don't get why everyone's so obsessed with various sex positions. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:11:51 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: Carrie Galbraith Subject: re: like you're dying to know what i just got... - -----Original Message----- >From: ken ostrander it has taught me to just shoot and hope for the best. faith photography. like this: > >> pinhole photography day, 2005: >> http://www.pinholeday.org/gallery/2005/index.php?gc=y > > i had a friend in boston who used one. the pictures were so dreamy. when they came out. Now we're talking! Aside from my Holga (my newest plastic camera) I am a BIG fan of pinhole photography. I've used mostly shoeboxes and oatmeal boxes but I know a guy who has made cameras out of large metal garbage cans. He's designed a whole carrying assembly for them. Quuite ingenious. The images are beyond comparison. Dreamy is a very good word for them. Be Seeing You, - - c np: Martina Topley-Bird, Anything ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:20:04 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: my name is "Eddie" and my johnson has an auto-zoom On 3/22/07, 2fs wrote: > > On 3/22/07, Michael Wells wrote: > > > > > > the 'fro! Or maybe he can reverse-pageboy that thing with an outward > > flip. > > > I don't get why everyone's so obsessed with various sex positions. Then you obviously haven't tried them! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 13:22:54 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Wanna bet? On 3/22/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > I say: > > Uh, what the fuck *was* that? > > ...and how could a plot that bad be wasted by containing no porn? THAT explains why the feel of the damned thing seemed so familiar without my being able to quite peg its genre. It's like "implied porn". - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:41:07 -0400 From: FSThomas Subject: Re: RH and the Venus 3 - Atlanta (Uploaded) Archive.org link for the Atlanta show at Smith's: http://www.archive.org/details/Robyn_Hitchcock_and_the_Venus_3-Atlanta-20070320 (Info file still has the Afterlife/Afterlight typo in it, but the torrent is such a bitch to re-seed, I've left it as is.) - -f. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:46:43 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: In Was - Not Was News To-day I'm sad. My first and only one-sentence contribution to Wikipedia was undone within three hours. It was a reference to "Little Expressionless Animals" by David Foster Wallace in the literature section of this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeopardy%21_in_popular_culture#In_literature It was deemed "not notable enough". I don't know how a short story by Stephen King is more notable (this is not a Stephen King slam; I'm a fan of his.) Well, at least I figured out what Sweeney and Tom Clark were talking about. I guess I missed a few years of SNL. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:45:12 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: my name is >> I don't get why everyone's so obsessed with various sex positions. > > >Then you obviously haven't tried them! But you can pull a hamstring with that reverse pageboy if you're not careful. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:39:46 -0700 From: "Stacked Crooked" Subject: Mini-Reviews You can Use wilco, *Sky-Blue Sky* let's just say that i hope the next release is another live album. modest mouse, *We Were Dead* i was only a casual fan before *Good News*, which i put off even checking out from the library for several months' time, simply because i didn't think the band had anything new to offer me. turned out that it was so great that i nearly wept the first time listening to it. this new one isn't anywhere near that class, but it may be their second-best record to-date. jesse sykes & the sweet hereafter, *Open Halls Of The Soul* fairly good; but -- considering this was my second-most-anticipated release for '07 -- also fairly disappointing. maybe if we all put our thoughts together, we can cause the forthcoming new pornographers record to leak sooner than soon? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 11:40:59 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: All the latest squid news Various other ways have been suggested for defrosting it - the one of the more inventive being to wrap it in electric blankets. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:30:28 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Name That Tune "This is a song about money." Hint: show date <= 1991 xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:33:27 -0700 (PDT) From: ken ostrander Subject: se: sasquatch gigolo service (est. 1982) If a biscuit is a cookie though, what's a biscuit? And don't say scone, because while similar, they're different. <<<< my daughter thinks that falafel is cookie. we have not tried to correct her. her latest thing is requesting a biscuit for our dog moosey brown. as soon as she gets it she runs off so the dog will chase her. >>one time there was this dog on stupid pet tricks that chased a >> flashlight. well, not the flashlight itself but the light from the >> flashlight wherever it hit. it was crazy stuff. > >The easy availabilty of laser pointers has resulted in the best cat toy >evar. They never get tired of pursuing and assaulting tiny, shimmering red >mites, or whatever they imagine thost little dots to be. our cat tiramisu has never been one for toys or string or catnip. she's much too serious for all of that nonsense; but when i got a laser pointer (from one of those guys selling stuff on a blanket) she went nuts for it. i should try and get another one. apparently they get secret service agents all crazy too: http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:A53e-qynnmgJ:www.secretservice.gov/press/GPA01-05.pdf+%22laser+pointers%22+GPA01-05.pdf&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&ie=UTF-8 ken "better watch out all you space cats" the kenster np 'mind control' stephen marley - --------------------------------- Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:09:28 -0700 (PDT) From: ken ostrander Subject: re: like you're dying to know what i just got... >I bought a pair of Ecco boots for winter (haven't bought any since), and man >did they work well. i can't say enough about my ecco's: http://www.eccousa.com/shoes/mens/outdoor/track-iv-lo/1176/detail.aspx i wanted to get some when i was in rome for the jubileum; but waited until i got home. i've had them for more than eight years now. the soles are peeling on the bottom; but they somehow still keep out water. there was a period (about a year ago) when i was getting holes in my socks from rubbing against some sharpness (which i can only assume was from entropy) on the inside of the heel; but that passed and they are still the most comfortable shoes i've ever had. i've been thinking about getting new ones; but i don't really need them. >> I went to law school with a guy whose personal philosophy was organized >>around a concept he called "the ten-year shoe." > >I like it! Could be "The Last Theory," or "Life is like a leather upper." >And did you ever kiss him? Or was he a heel?< the secret to happiness is comfortable shoes. all of the masters wore sandals. i remember when i first got tevas. all i could say was, "i feel like jesus!" > this is more exciting than hearing women talk about shoes. talk about pain, you mean. aren't women's shoes just a little bit like torture? i have an aunt whose feet are literally broken after decades of those heels. i guess it's better than foot binding. >>>> There's nothing wrong with discussing quality footwear; good shoes, someone to snuggle with and a warm place to shit are three the things EVERYBODY in life needs. I'm firmly convinced that the more we concentrate on making these basics universal, the faster we approach Teilhard's Godhead. <<<< wasn't he all about seeing god in everything? wouldn't that include uncomfortable shoes, victorian snuggle-free zones, and cold leaky outhouses? ken "i bemoaned the fact that i had no shoes until i saw a man with no feet" the kenster - --------------------------------- The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:05:42 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Mini-Reviews You can Use Stacked Crooked wrote: > > jesse sykes & the sweet hereafter, *Open Halls Of The Soul* > fairly good; but -- considering this was my second-most-anticipated release > for '07 -- also fairly disappointing. I've been playing this solidly all week. It's really great. Beautiful psych guitar work. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 00:08:07 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: like you're dying to know what i just got... hi fegs, > i gave most of the negatives to my old roommate to play with. few things in my world are as well-organized as my negatives. finding a photograph is dumb luck, but the negatives are number and indexed in the negative library. > nudge-nudge, wink-wink, say no more. i'm big on the candid. after years of getting people to pose, i prefer to catch them in a more natural frame. some folks get all tense in their face when they know there's camera pointed at them. some people get all tense when they find out about such photographs. i have this old photography handbook and it showed a lens with a mirror contraption that actually takes a picture of what is 90 degrees to the side of where the lens is pointed. i liked that sneaky thing. > >the sounds of the shutter opening and closing are two of the best > >sounds in the world*. > > > >but they can't be faked. > > i don't know about that. if you mean that they cannot reproduce the sound without recording it, then you might be right. well of course it can be faked, but there are some things that shouldn't be faked. > It's the time taken to sense the correct fcoal length and move the > lens elements to the correct position, IIRC. > <<<<<<<< > > so if you are doing everything manually, there won't be the delay? well yes but then you get to complain about the slow photographer > sometimes the delay leads to a great candid shot; but more often i find myself deleting fuzzy shots of the back of shuggie's head. it has taught me to just shoot and hope for the best. faith photography. like this: shuggie is almost too cute a nickname. although it could be a name - children are named so very many things these days. my parents call me laurie not lauren like everyone else does and when i was little, my dad, if he did not get me confused with the sister, would often call me laurie-kins. i don't know if it's related, but i had many mice (sequentially, not all at once) that i usually always named mousekin (in honour of the mouse in the book of the same name), and also i wanted to be a mouse when i grew up. > i had a friend in boston who used one. the pictures were so dreamy. when they came out. the chance that they won't come out is part of the dream. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:30:02 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: iTunes help squad... I have the most recent version of iTunes for Windows. It - as well as the last couple of versions - has a problem in that about 2/3 of the time when I shut it down, it sits there for about 15 seconds and then generates a message asking me whether I want to report the error. It seems to do this more if I shut it down in the playlist I'm playing (if I go to a different playlist, then hit "stop" play, then shut down, it's less likely to do this). Anyone else have this problem, and anyone have any ideas what it might be? As problems go, it's not a major one: I'll just restart it, and it otherwise works fine. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:42:44 +0000 From: craigie* Subject: Re: my name is "Eddie" and my johnson has an auto-zoom you can read in the Sunday Papers (according to Joe Jackson, that is) c* On 22/03/07, Rex wrote: > > On 3/22/07, 2fs wrote: > > > > On 3/22/07, Michael Wells wrote: > > > > > > > > > the 'fro! Or maybe he can reverse-pageboy that thing with an outward > > > flip. > > > > > > I don't get why everyone's so obsessed with various sex positions. > > > Then you obviously haven't tried them! > - -- first things first, but not necessarily in that order... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 09:30:05 +0000 From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: Hoot, hoot! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070322/ap_on_sc/peru_rare_owl ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 04:50:00 -0700 (PDT) From: ken ostrander Subject: re: sasquatch gigolo service (est. 1982) If a biscuit is a cookie though, what's a biscuit? And don't say scone, because while similar, they're different. <<<< my daughter thinks that falafel is cookie. we have not tried to correct her. her latest thing is requesting a biscuit for our dog moosey brown. as soon as she gets it she runs off so the dog will chase her. >>one time there was this dog on stupid pet tricks that chased a >> flashlight. well, not the flashlight itself but the light from the >> flashlight wherever it hit. it was crazy stuff. > >The easy availabilty of laser pointers has resulted in the best cat toy >evar. They never get tired of pursuing and assaulting tiny, shimmering red >mites, or whatever they imagine thost little dots to be. our cat tiramisu has never been one for toys or string or catnip. she's much too serious for all of that nonsense; but when i got a laser pointer (from one of those guys selling stuff on a blanket) she went nuts for it. i should try and get another one. apparently they get secret service agents all crazy too: http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:A53e-qynnmgJ:www.secretservice.gov/press/GPA01-05.pdf+%22laser+pointers%22+GPA01-05.pdf&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&ie=UTF-8 ken "better watch out all you space cats" the kenster np 'mind control' stephen marley - --------------------------------- Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:10:33 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: like you're dying to know what i just got... Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > shuggie is almost too cute a nickname. It's the Scottish diminutive for Hugh, btw. Stewart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:49:11 +0000 (GMT) From: Tulloch Subject: Robyn recommends Elvis Perkins, in today's Guardian report from South by Southwest: http://arts.guardian.co.uk/filmandmusic/story/0,,2040020,00.html Elvis Perkins What is he like? His dad was Psycho actor Anthony Perkins; his mum died in 9/11; his debut album Ash Wednesday was released on XL this February; and he's been touring with My Morning Jacket. Chosen by: Robyn Hitchcock, psych-folk-rock musician "He looks like Another Side of Bob Dylan-era Dylan - the button-down shirt, mouth-harp and the hair going up - crossed with Rolling Thunder-era Dylan 10 years later with the upright bass. But the mood of the music isn't Dylan-y at all; it's quite ramshackle and very direct, passionate but not self-conscious. He didn't appear to take himself too seriously. There's a very interesting story to his life but the music that came out of it wasn't what you'd expect. He's got quite a feisty band, with a bass player who looks like Chuck Norris and a drummer who looks as if he must know how frightening he looks. And what with having two names that come from the Million Dollar Quartet - as in Elvis Presley and Carl Perkins; it's like being called Roy Cash - he is, as we say, so a story. One to watch." Where to hear him: Ash Wednesday is out now on XL. You can hear three tracks at myspace.com/elvisperkins The Purple Bottle - "Howling without symmetry" http://thepurplebottle.blogspot.com/ - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:23:35 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: sasquatch gigolo service (est. 1982) On 3/23/07, ken ostrander wrote: > > our cat tiramisu has never been one for toys or string or catnip. she's > much too serious for all of that nonsense; but when i got a laser pointer > (from one of those guys selling stuff on a blanket) she went nuts for it. i > should try and get another one. Supposedly the catnip urge doesn't kick in until later in a cat's life. I haven't tried it with Exene since she was one or two, but at that point, she didn't give a rat's ass about it. However, she's turned out to be a pretty good mouser (two in a month), so it's safe to say that she would totally give a major rat's ass about an actual rat's ass. The second time she nabbed a mouse, we found it on the day we were getting out the Halloween decorations, with many fake creepy crawlys strewn about the floor as we were looking for places to hang them... in other words, the only day of the year when you could find a dead mouse on the floor and not be totally sure that it was a real dead mouse and not a fake one. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:54:26 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: re: like you're dying to know what i just got... >ken "i bemoaned the fact that i had no shoes until i saw a man with no feet" the kenster > cf. Michael O'Donoghue, "I cried because I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no plastic lawn flamingo." God bless Mr. Mike. ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #116 ********************************