From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #114 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Wednesday, March 21 2007 Volume 16 : Number 114 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: Random note ["Bachman, Michael" ] RE: Random note [Sebastian Hagedorn ] Re: digital vs film [Rex ] Re: Wanna bet? [Rex ] Re: digital vs film [2fs ] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #111 [Rex ] Re: digital vs film [Rex ] Re: digital vs film [Rob ] Re: digital vs film ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Atlanta ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Wanna bet? ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Reap ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Calling from the Funhouse... [Rex ] Re: Sasquatch Gigolo Service (est. 1982) ["David Stovall" ] Re: Atlanta [oliver ] All You 'Til Tuesday Fans... ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] In Squid News To-day... ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Politics, spleen, etc. [kevin ] Re: In Squid News To-day... [kevin ] Re: All You 'Til Tuesday Fans... [oliver ] Re: In Squid News To-day... [Rex ] Re: In Squid News To-day... [Tom Clark ] Re: In Squid News To-day... [Rex ] Re: reap [Tom Clark ] Re: digital vs film [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #113 [grutness@slingshot.co.nz] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:47:16 -0400 From: "Bachman, Michael" Subject: RE: Random note - -----Original Message----- From: Sebastian Hagedorn [mailto:Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 10:18 AM To: Bachman, Michael Cc: fegmaniax@smoe.org Subject: RE: Random note - --On 21. Mdrz 2007 09:59:42 -0400 "Bachman, Michael" wrote: >> I have a VHS copy of "The Nasty Girl". It is about a teenage girl who >> exposes the roll that her town and some it's citizens had in aiding >> and abetting the Nazi's in WWII. The more she uncovers the more the >> town turns against her. It's actually got some real funny moments in >> it. It's not out on DVD though, and it should be. Sebastian: >It's based on a true story. The title sounds weird in English, because "nasty" evokes sexual connotations, doesn't >it? I would've translated it "The Horrible Girl" instead. It does have that connotation. I thought the female lead was very good. Did she every make another movie? I am going to research what was going on in Alsace region of France during WWII. My ancestors on the Bachman side immigrated from Alsace to America around the time of the Franco-Prussian War of 1870-71, along with a lot of other folks from that region. I haven't found out yet what town they came from though. >> Fassbinders "The Marriage Of >> Maria Braun" is one of my favorite German movies. >That's definitely my favorite Fassbinder, although I've seen only about 5. >It's incredible how prodigious his output was. I have been looking at the Criterion DVD box set of Fassbinder movies, but haven't bought it yet. Of course, we haven't even mentioned the best WWII movie of all time, Das Boot. I'm glad it got made when it did, as a CGI version wouldn't have the realism that the 1981 version has. I currently have the latest extended version that's close to 4 hours long. MJ Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:05:07 +0100 From: Sebastian Hagedorn Subject: RE: Random note - --On 21. Mdrz 2007 10:47:16 -0400 "Bachman, Michael" wrote: > --On 21. Mdrz 2007 09:59:42 -0400 "Bachman, Michael" > wrote: > >>> I have a VHS copy of "The Nasty Girl". It is about a teenage girl who >>> exposes the roll that her town and some it's citizens had in aiding >>> and abetting the Nazi's in WWII. The more she uncovers the more the >>> town turns against her. It's actually got some real funny moments in >>> it. It's not out on DVD though, and it should be. > > Sebastian: >> It's based on a true story. The title sounds weird in English, because >> "nasty" evokes sexual connotations, doesn't >it? I would've translated >> it "The Horrible Girl" instead. > > It does have that connotation. I thought the female lead was very good. > Did she every make another movie? She made lots, but I don't think I've seen any of them: > Of course, we haven't even mentioned the best WWII movie of all time, Das > Boot. I'm glad it got made when it did, as a CGI version wouldn't have > the realism that the 1981 version has. I currently have the latest > extended version that's close to 4 hours long. But that's still too short! While it came out as a movie first (in 1981) there was a TV version in 1985 that's 5 hours long. It was shown in three installments. The latter version is far superior. I guess you have the "director's cut". While I've never seen that version I guess I'd always prefer the longer one. Lothar-G|nther Buchheim, the author of the novel it was based on, died just a few days ago. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:27:32 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: digital vs film On 3/20/07, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > > The quietness is a BIG advantage for candid shots (as is the fact > that so many people have cameras around their necks nowadays that > very few people take any notice). I find it endlessly amusing that many digital cameras signal that they've taken an "exposure" by reproducing what sounds like an audio sample of the sound of a shutter clicking through a tiny speaker that they probably don't need. The delay is a HUGE problem a far > as I'm concerned, particularly for candid, wildlife, and action shots. Okay, so it's not just me... but the question remains...why why why do are all these technologically advanced cameras simply incapable of actually taking a picture when you press the button that's supposed to make them do that? The shittiest computer keyboard prints a character as soon as you touch it, so what's the stumbling block here? - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:36:47 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Wanna bet? On 3/20/07, Michael Sweeney wrote: > > > Tom Clark fuckyoued thusly: All hail this new verb. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:41:44 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: digital vs film On 3/21/07, Rex wrote: > > On 3/20/07, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > > > > > The quietness is a BIG advantage for candid shots (as is the fact > > that so many people have cameras around their necks nowadays that > > very few people take any notice). > > > I find it endlessly amusing that many digital cameras signal that they've > taken an "exposure" by reproducing what sounds like an audio sample of the > sound of a shutter clicking through a tiny speaker that they probably > don't > need. I suspect that many people use it to know for sure that they've actually taken the shot. Redundant, since you can instantly check anyway... The delay is a HUGE problem a far > > as I'm concerned, particularly for candid, wildlife, and action shots. > > > Okay, so it's not just me... but the question remains...why why why do are > all these technologically advanced cameras simply incapable of actually > taking a picture when you press the button that's supposed to make them do > that? The shittiest computer keyboard prints a character as soon as you > touch it, so what's the stumbling block here? No idea - a major annoyance. I'm not a "photographer" per se (I mean, all the tech jargon you folks have been using sailed right over my head), but I do know the first thing or two about photography (just not the third, fourth, etc.), and it is occasionally frustrating trying to figure out how to get the camera to do something (or *not* do something, more often). I mostly just use it to take pictures of friends and stupid things - but on occasion, I've tried to take halfway decent-looking photographs. Sometimes, I'll kinda succeed - but it's just not been a big enough deal for me to invest either time or money in working on my mad photo skillz. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:48:23 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #111 On 3/20/07, grutness@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > > >It's just George being humble again. This also explains why, years > later, > >Ringo 'forgets the words to the song he wrote' when attempting it live. > > you saying it's impossible to forget the words of a song you've > written while performing live? 'Cause if so, I've done the impossible. Hell, I'd call it easier for an artist to forget his own words than those to a cover, for the simple reason that, if you wrote the song, you can probably remember all the lyrics you discarded or altered during the writing process. That's my excuse, anyway. And when you don't have to start remembering the words to a whole set's worth of material until relatively late in your musical career (like Ringo), it's harder to do so. Try doing karaoke blindfolded. I think a lot of songs we think we've memorized, we really only half-know... singing along with finshed songs with vocals, sometimes you feel like you nail every word, but your brain is actually pretty quick at picking up on the cues in the existing vocal line and getting you on track so quickly-- you hear the first consonant and it reminds you of the entire line-- that you think you could've done it without the cue, but it's likely you would've actually come up with "Ummmm..." - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:02:37 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: digital vs film On 3/21/07, 2fs wrote: > > > > I find it endlessly amusing that many digital cameras signal that > they've > > taken an "exposure" by reproducing what sounds like an audio sample of > the > > sound of a shutter clicking through a tiny speaker that they probably > > don't > > need. > > > I suspect that many people use it to know for sure that they've actually > taken the shot. Redundant, since you can instantly check anyway... But a "beep" would do the trick just fine... I get a kick out of the fact that the sound is borrowed from the mechanical process the camera itself is designed to replace. It's like programming your computer keyboard to make manual typewriter sounds when you tap the keys. And yes, I promise that'll be my last computer-keyboard-centric analogy for the day. - -Rex The delay is a HUGE problem a far > > > as I'm concerned, particularly for candid, wildlife, and action shots. > > > > > > Okay, so it's not just me... but the question remains...why why why do > are > > all these technologically advanced cameras simply incapable of actually > > taking a picture when you press the button that's supposed to make them > do > > that? The shittiest computer keyboard prints a character as soon as you > > touch it, so what's the stumbling block here? > > > No idea - a major annoyance. I'm not a "photographer" per se (I mean, all > the tech jargon you folks have been using sailed right over my head), but > I > do know the first thing or two about photography (just not the third, > fourth, etc.), and it is occasionally frustrating trying to figure out how > to get the camera to do something (or *not* do something, more often). I > mostly just use it to take pictures of friends and stupid things - but on > occasion, I've tried to take halfway decent-looking photographs. > Sometimes, > I'll kinda succeed - but it's just not been a big enough deal for me to > invest either time or money in working on my mad photo skillz. > > > -- > > ...Jeff Norman > > The Architectural Dance Society > http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:12:41 +0000 From: Rob Subject: Re: digital vs film On 3/21/07, Rex wrote: > On 3/21/07, 2fs wrote: > > > > > > > I find it endlessly amusing that many digital cameras signal that > > they've > > > taken an "exposure" by reproducing what sounds like an audio sample of > > the > > > sound of a shutter clicking through a tiny speaker that they probably > > > don't > > > need. > > > > > > I suspect that many people use it to know for sure that they've actually > > taken the shot. Redundant, since you can instantly check anyway... > > > But a "beep" would do the trick just fine... I get a kick out of the fact > that the sound is borrowed from the mechanical process the camera itself is > designed to replace. It's like programming your computer keyboard to make > manual typewriter sounds when you tap the keys. > As far as I know, digital SLRs still have a shutter to make the appropriate noise. Mine certainly does. My compact did beep (until I worked out how to silence it!). Rob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:32:41 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: digital vs film hi fegs, the sounds of the shutter opening and closing are two of the best sounds in the world*. but they can't be faked. xo * this is so true that i don't even know if i stole this from some other photographer or thought it myself - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:38:07 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Atlanta FSThomas says: > Sample MP3 of the first track available for c.24 hours: > http://ochremedia.com/temp/Surgery.mp3 > The rest should be on Dime by this evening if all goes as planned. > I'll try and post a setlist later. Wow, he did "Surgery". I'm jealous! Thanks for posting it. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:59:49 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Wanna bet? 2fs says: > (But then, this is the nation that more or less elected W. And whose > citizens, by and large, get pissed off when asked to pay for education but > are more than willing to pay to build those same decrepit schools enormous > football stadia for their 1.2 GPA players to grunt and sweat in... And those > are the more academically proficient among them...) i am not much for school spirit, but over the years, i have come to be proud of the fact that during my senior year, my school administration trred to entice students to show up to a football game by giving away a free floppy disc to each attendee. and this was back when floppy discs meant business. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:16:33 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Reap a woman, 70-something: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1530572.ece my mom actually sent me a forwarded joke yesterday that paraphrased this story with a message that now she knows what you have to do to get moved up to first class. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:31:49 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Calling from the Funhouse... On 3/20/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > > And sheesh, I get a bit of a heartache, hearing Iggy singing a love song: > "l'll stick it deep inside > I'll stick it deep inside > Cause I'm loose." What I love about that bit is how the whole song is such mass of raging, slashing guitars, and then for those couple of lines it kicks over into a not-so-Stoogey, almost poppy and melodic chord progression, which makes the sentiment (erm) stick out even more noticeably. Yeah, it's a keeper. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:23:22 -0800 From: "David Stovall" Subject: Re: Sasquatch Gigolo Service (est. 1982) >From: Rex >The easy availabilty of laser pointers has resulted in the best cat toy >evar. They never get tired of pursuing and assaulting tiny, shimmering red >mites, or whatever they imagine thost little dots to be. Raccoons chase laser-pointer dots, too. da9ve ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:41:44 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Wanna bet? On 3/21/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > 2fs says: > > (But then, this is the nation that more or less elected W. And whose > > citizens, by and large, get pissed off when asked to pay for education > but > > are more than willing to pay to build those same decrepit schools > enormous > > football stadia for their 1.2 GPA players to grunt and sweat in... And > those > > are the more academically proficient among them...) > > i am not much for school spirit, but over the years, i have come to be > proud of the fact that during my senior year, my school administration > trred to entice students to show up to a football game by giving away > a free floppy disc to each attendee. > > and this was back when floppy discs meant business. Whereas now, that would mean only a flurry of flying discs... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 11:48:33 -0400 From: oliver Subject: Re: Atlanta On 3/21/07, FSThomas wrote: > Hey, Feggers. > > No time to do a proper review, but in brief summery of last night: > > Robyn's voice was failing, so they ran a subdued non-rocking set. > Purple patterned shirt (iguanas?). > Full band. No Mike Mills visible. > Recorded by at least me. > Sample MP3 of the first track available for c.24 hours: > http://ochremedia.com/temp/Surgery.mp3 > The rest should be on Dime by this evening if all goes as planned. > I'll try and post a setlist later. Thanks - looking forward to it! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:21:48 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: All You 'Til Tuesday Fans... I was listening to "Everything's Different Now" to-day... Do I misinterpret this: "You keep saying that you're only human What you mean is that you think you're the only human here Still I think that it's just a rumour" ...or OUCH? xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:46:31 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: In Squid News To-day... I saw this at the drugstore when I went to pick up some Sudafed*: http://www.squidsoap.com/ I almost bought some. I like novelty soap. xo * the *real* stuff - BHC (behind-the-counter) - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:49:58 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Politics, spleen, etc. Surfing around and came across the following in a Wolfmother review: "There's little worse than being the group that unflaggingly represents the nostalgic vision of a generation whose temporary 1960s countercultural ploy cynically morphed into 1980s economic rationalism, the dismantling of the welfare state and smug, self-righteous cultural lockdown. That's a heavy cross to bear, but I can't think of a group I would rather inflict it on than Wolfmother..." I have no stake in the Wolfmother question, but can't help admiring how elegantly the writer turns a phrase. Full particulars at http://www.dustedmagazine.com/reviews/2924 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:01:59 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: In Squid News To-day... The squid soap looks like fun. Reminded me of this little guy: http://store.comicfusion.net/feb074535.html - -----Original Message----- >From: Lauren Elizabeth >Sent: Mar 21, 2007 2:46 PM >To: "a sweet little cupcake...baked by the devil!" >Subject: In Squid News To-day... > >I saw this at the drugstore when I went to pick up some Sudafed*: > >http://www.squidsoap.com/ > >I almost bought some. I like novelty soap. > >xo > >* the *real* stuff - BHC (behind-the-counter) > >-- >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >"People with opinions just go around bothering one another." > > - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:58:33 -0400 From: oliver Subject: Re: All You 'Til Tuesday Fans... On 3/21/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > I was listening to "Everything's Different Now" to-day... > > Do I misinterpret this: > > "You keep saying that you're only human > What you mean is that you think you're the only human here > Still I think that it's just a rumour" > > ...or OUCH? I'm pretty sure thats Crash and Burn which Aimee Mann wrote the lyrics for... but wouldn't your question depend on how you interpret it? :-) The lyric fits in with a lot of the themes on her solo records (which are all fantastic) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:14:57 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: In Squid News To-day... On 3/21/07, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > > I saw this at the drugstore when I went to pick up some Sudafed*: > > http://www.squidsoap.com/ > > I almost bought some. I like novelty soap. Ongoing personal squid saga: a few months ago my stepdaughter got to dissect a squid at school. She thought this was really cool and even brought home the beak. The next day we were getting ready for school/work when we spotted these really odd little birds roaming around the edges of the Silver Lake reservoir (just across the street from us)... wobbly, slow moving, somewhat spheroid numbers with long downturned beaks, looking kinda like kiwis, walking around in the mist. We both thought they were really cool, but I had to admit that I didn't know what they were. So she decided that they were actually squids in disguise, going so far as to describe exactly how the squid fit each part of its body into the bird "costume" and what they hoped to achieve by pretending to be birds. She continues to call them squids when they appear or are mentioned. No coaching from me in this process, I swear. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:16:08 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: In Squid News To-day... On Mar 21, 2007, at 2:46 PM, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > I saw this at the drugstore when I went to pick up some Sudafed*: > > http://www.squidsoap.com/ > "SquidSoap works by applying a small ink mark on a person's hand when they press the pump to dispense the soap. The ink is designed to wash off after the hands are washed for about15-20 seconds, which is the time recommended by most doctors." okay, very cool. I think my daughter would really like this. On the other hand: "SquidSoap - Training Tomorrow's Great Hand Washers" morphed in my brain to "SquidSoap - Training Tomorrow's great OCD Sufferers" > > * the *real* stuff - BHC (behind-the-counter) Send me some! This Sudafed PE stuff is bunk. Oh, and if you have any ether that would be good too. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:17:27 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: In Squid News To-day... On 3/21/07, kevin wrote: > > The squid soap looks like fun. Reminded me of this little guy: > > http://store.comicfusion.net/feb074535.html Hey, I didn't previously notice this part: "Also comes with two Little Victims that fit in My Little Cthulhu's snuggly grasp and also pull apart to show their yummy red insides!" Sometimes it pays to revisit the classics. - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:23:15 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: reap Mostly for Lauren, but other geekfegs may find it amusing... On Mar 21, 2007, at 12:20 AM, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > Steve Schiavo says: >> > John W. Backus, who assembled and led the I.B.M. team that created >> > Fortran, the first widely used programming language, which helped >> > open the door to modern computing, died on Saturday at his home in >> > Ashland, Ore. He was 82. > > C > C PROGRAM BYE > C > WRITE (6,1) > 1 FORMAT(9H BYE, JOHN) > STOP > END Nice. Perhaps you've seen the 99 Bottles of Beer in over 1,000 programming languages: http://99-bottles-of-beer.net/ - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:33:39 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: digital vs film Rex wrote: >On 3/20/07, >grutness@slingshot.co.nz ><grutness@slingshot.co.nz > wrote: > > >The quietness is a BIG advantage for candid shots (as is the fact >that so many people have cameras around their necks nowadays that >very few people take any notice). > > >I find it endlessly amusing that many digital cameras signal that >they've taken an "exposure" by reproducing what sounds like an >audio sample of the sound of a shutter clicking through a tiny >speaker that they probably don't need. at least you can turn that sound off if you want to on a lot of them. >The delay is a HUGE problem a far >as I'm concerned, particularly for candid, wildlife, and action shots. > > >Okay, so it's not just me... but the question remains...why why why >do are all these technologically advanced cameras simply incapable >of actually taking a picture when you press the button that's >supposed to make them do that? The shittiest computer keyboard >prints a character as soon as you touch it, so what's the stumbling >block here? It's the time taken to sense the correct fcoal length and move the lens elements to the correct position, IIRC. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:50:02 +1200 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #113 > > > which I believe was co-written by Thornton. > > > The Cate Blanchett character was based on Thornton's mother. It also > > > features the Blanchett-Giovanni Ribisi power duo which was only > > > rivalled when they repaired in "Heaven" (a great movie written by > > > Kieslowski and directed by "Run Lola Run" guy Tom Tykwer (warning: > > > it's a fair bit quieter than "Run Lola Run.")) > > > > And I like it much more than "Lola rennt". I'm a big fan of Tykwer's but I > > passed on "Perfume", because I hated the novel with a vengeance. My > > favorite Tykwer movie is probably "Der Krieger und die Kaiserin", aka "The > > Princess and the Warrior". > >I love "Heaven." Cate Blanchett was - let me think - luminous. It's >a beautiful movie - I love those scenes of Blanchett and Giovanni >Ribisi in white t-shirts and shaved heads, sitting on the steps of it >must have been a church. The imagery of the movie stayed with me for >a long time - Tykwer certainly has a great eye. > >I've also seen "Winter Sleepers" and both of these I liked better than >"Run Lola Run". "Run Lola Run" is too quick to show off how much of a >thoughtful eye he has. I love the colours in "Winter Sleepers" - I >think one woman wears green throughout the movie and the other, red. >I haven't seen "The Princess and the Warrior" but noticed it on the >NetQ already and moved it up per your recommendation. I don't think >"Perfume" has been released on DVD here yet - I remember wanting to >see it when it was in theatres. I didn't know it was Tykwer and I >haven't read the book, so I still want to see it ;) I'm a fan of Run Lola Run - although I must aadmit the first time I saw it was at the movies, sitting close to the front, and I was exhausted by the end - it was almost like I'd done all that running myself. As for Cate, well...let's just say she reminds me a lot of of someone. If you've ever seen "Oscar and Lucinda", then there are some scenes where she looks virtually identical to my dear Alice. And since she (A.) is a big Ralph Fiennes fan, I've seen that movie a few times. Talking of Fiennes, I saw "Chumscrubber" last night. Weird but enjoyable in an offbeat black comedy way. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #114 ********************************