From: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org (fegmaniax-digest) To: fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Subject: fegmaniax-digest V16 #105 Reply-To: fegmaniax@smoe.org Sender: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-fegmaniax-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk fegmaniax-digest Saturday, March 17 2007 Volume 16 : Number 105 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Like you're dying to know what I just got... [2fs ] Re: My name is "The Allman Brothers" and I'm trying to figure out what a doobie is ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Like you're dying to know what I just got... [Rex ] Re: My name is "Mr. Rogers", and I blame society ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Random note ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: My name is "Mr. Rogers", and I blame society [Tom Clark ] Re: My name is "Mr. Rogers", and I blame society ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] With fellow big names like Peter Buck and Robyn Hitchcock looking on [Hwy] Re: Anywhere near Bath this Saturday? ["Lauren Elizabeth" ] Re: Anywhere near Bath this Saturday? [michaeljbachman@comcast.net] SXSW & the Roky Erickson Psychedelic Ice Cream Social ["Marc Holden" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:13:51 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: Like you're dying to know what I just got... On 3/16/07, Barbara Soutar wrote: > > > > Speaking of the Beatles, I listened to Golden Slumbers today by the > Beatles which is Paul McCartney at his most maudlin. I was in the mood > to hear it for some reason. Oh, I'd say Paul got plenty more maudlin than that... Actually, that track is a good example of the way the Beatles worked. I do think the song, in itself, isn't as maudlin as all that: McCartney's vocal is too intense (chorus particularly) for that. But, more importantly, in sequence along with the rest of the medley, the overall feel of that track is, for me, more one of a sort of desperation, a wishing-to-make-it-so in the face of doubt. Probably that's why the Normal Boring Chord sequence of the following "Carry That Weight," with its enormous blocky brass chords, sounds grim rather than pedestrian. You know, not just "you're gonna carry that weight a long time" but goddammit there's no way you're doing anything else *but* carrying that weight, and it'll be a good long time and don't ever think anything different. - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:24:07 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: TV, you're dying to know what I just got... On 3/16/07, Bri N wrote: > > One of my favorites from when I was a kid: "Voyagers!" -the time travel TV > show about a time pirate and a 12 year old kid who travel through time and > try to correct history. I still have them all on Beta, but I would fork out > for a dvd release in a heartbeat. Wasn't this the subject of the Late Night With David Letterman Afterschool Special "They Took My TV Show Away", where Dave helps Timmy (or whomever) deal with the painful cancellation of a favorite program? Man, I used to watch Letterman religiously back then. I think that sketch was even adapted into "Late Night: The Book"--- which I oughtta dig out, 'cuz it's a real anachronism: a piece of print media composed of tiny B&W photos that we would now call "screen captures"... also bound with half the pages in the wrong order, a fact which Letterman was first to mock. Ah, youth. Actually, in a strange coincidence, the first thing I ever recorded with a VCR, and watched to death, endlessly pausing images and slowing down actions, was a real After School Special featuring VOYAGERS! star Meeno Peluce, where he got sucked into a mystical world where he talked to a giant animated pair of lips... the lips made him sit through short films adapted from a couple of kids' books and then set him free. For a while I was just endlessly fascinated by watching optical effects in slow motion, looking for little mistakes or subtle details. It was such a novelty... - -Rex ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:35:57 -0500 From: 2fs Subject: Re: rant du jour On 3/16/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > 2fs wrote: > > > black communist surgeons! > > > > black communist surgeons! > > Problems with your brackets? I should point out that despite my replying to this earlier with "nah..." in fact I have no idea what "brackets" Jeff is referring to, nor what they might have to do either with "black communist surgeons" or (if he didnt' get my reference) John Cale... - -- ...Jeff Norman The Architectural Dance Society http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 16:59:42 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: My name is "The Allman Brothers" and I'm trying to figure out what a doobie is After you learn your scientific facts: http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/foreign-signs.html xo Lauren, "some of my best friends are foreigners" - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:59:49 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: kevin Subject: Re: Like you're dying to know what I just got... As per earlier today: spot on description. But for sheer maudlinicity I'd nominate "Junk." - -----Original Message----- >From: 2fs >Sent: Mar 16, 2007 1:13 PM >To: Not Reg >Subject: Re: Like you're dying to know what I just got... > >On 3/16/07, Barbara Soutar wrote: >> >> >> >> Speaking of the Beatles, I listened to Golden Slumbers today by the >> Beatles which is Paul McCartney at his most maudlin. I was in the mood >> to hear it for some reason. > > >Oh, I'd say Paul got plenty more maudlin than that... > >Actually, that track is a good example of the way the Beatles worked. I do >think the song, in itself, isn't as maudlin as all that: McCartney's vocal >is too intense (chorus particularly) for that. But, more importantly, in >sequence along with the rest of the medley, the overall feel of that track >is, for me, more one of a sort of desperation, a wishing-to-make-it-so in >the face of doubt. Probably that's why the Normal Boring Chord sequence of >the following "Carry That Weight," with its enormous blocky brass chords, >sounds grim rather than pedestrian. You know, not just "you're gonna carry >that weight a long time" but goddammit there's no way you're doing anything >else *but* carrying that weight, and it'll be a good long time and don't >ever think anything different. > > >-- > >...Jeff Norman > >The Architectural Dance Society >http://spanghew.blogspot.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:01:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: rant du jour 2fs wrote: > On 3/16/07, Jeff Dwarf wrote: > > > > 2fs wrote: > > > > > black communist surgeons! > > > > > > black communist surgeons! > > > > Problems with your brackets? > > I should point out that despite my replying to this earlier with > "nah..." in fact I have no idea what "brackets" Jeff is referring > to, nor what they might have to do either with "black communist > surgeons" or (if he didnt' get my reference) John Cale... http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/bracket Don't have Honi Soit, so .... Fucking Nevada needs to get their arse in gear. Wisconsin too. "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann "So this is what it's come to, these millions of years of evolution, warfare, community-building, women dying in childbirth with hope because their children might achieve more: a video on the Internet of a cat watching a video of a cat on the Internet." -- "Sylvar" . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:44:56 -0700 From: Rex Subject: Re: Like you're dying to know what I just got... Another one for feglist statisticians, Schroedenberger be damned: what's the longest a thread has ever continued without a change in the subject line? 'Cuz gmail's showing this one as 37 posts deep. - -Rx ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:56:48 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: My name is ...uh... what is my name? >Ugh, it's clearly to post my all-time favourite (apologies if it's >been posted before). I couldn't even begin to go into how funny I >think this is: > >http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/science.facts.html > similar apologies if this has been posted before, but I used to mark firt-year university exams. My PhD supervisor collected up some of the less-than-brilliant stuff and added it to his website. AFAIK it's still there, at . The "general" ones in the lower links would probably mean most to non-psych types, though some of the others are just as weird. Or, to put it another way: "The baby preferred its mother's womb to that of a stranger". Or: "Algorithm for tidying room: - if sock, then place in top draw. Else, if underpants, then feed to goat " James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:03:45 +1300 From: grutness@slingshot.co.nz Subject: Re: fegmaniax-digest V16 #104 > Apart from maybe the NYC > sounding Dream Syndicate, the balance of the Paisley Underground bands > sound like quintessential LA bands to my ears. Heh. Just where a person's from, I suppose. Most of them sound like Dunedin bands to me. Rain Parade sound like what would have happened if Sneaky Feelings has known how to use a recording studio properly. Put me down as another vote for "Lust for life", despite the over-use of the title track for a beer advertisement a few years back. And the only thing I know about the ocelot is, according to the old joke, how to tittilate one. James - -- James Dignan, Dunedin, New Zealand -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.- =-.-=-.-=-.- You talk to me as if from a distance .-=-.-=-.-=-. -=-. And I reply with impressions chosen from another time .-=- .-=-.-=-.-=-.-=- (Brian Eno - "By this River") -.-=-.-=-.-=-.-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:51:34 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: My name is "Mr. Rogers", and I blame society On Mar 15, 2007, at 8:03 PM, Stacked Crooked wrote: > well, with blank DVDs at twenty-five cents a pop, most of those > rentals are > probably being ripped and burnt, i would guess. Speaking of which, some friends of mine were talking about setting up a private bittorrent network between, say three or four homes, where they would share their ripped movies and music. I haven't looked into what this would entail; anyfeg done this, or know a good resource? - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:58:47 -0400 From: "Stewart C. Russell" Subject: Re: Like you're dying to know what I just got... kevin wrote: > > BBC "Hitchhiker's Guide To the Galaxy," so at least I'll be watching > old TV with cool Limey accents.) Welcome to the real Hitchhiker's. Stewart (peeved at how hard it is to upgrade the RAM in this iBook) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:00:07 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: Random note On Mar 16, 2007, at 9:02 AM, Rex wrote: > And for that matter, I used to champion post-Zoom X records (for the > songwriting, mainly), but they get harder and harder to listen to > every > year, especially when you can see the band with Zoom back in there > a time or > two a year. I dig the earlier X as well, but the Dave Alvin penned "4th Of July" is one of my favorite songs ever. Especially Dave's solo version. - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:04:19 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: My name is "Mr. Rogers", and I blame society Tom Clark says: > Speaking of which, some friends of mine were talking about setting up > a private bittorrent network between, say three or four homes, where > they would share their ripped movies and music. Damn hippie kids. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:06:59 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: In Book News To-day... Oh I just love when this guy writes a book: http://www.sciam.com/print_version.cfm?articleID=C7265AEC-E7F2-99DF-3B3A60DE6200D457 xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:15:12 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Random note Tom Clark says: > I dig the earlier X as well, but the Dave Alvin penned "4th Of July" > is one of my favorite songs ever. Especially Dave's solo version. Oops, I forgot to mention with some talk of album covers a few weeks back that "Los Angeles" is one my favourite album covers. Also one of the greatest introductions to a band with the title track...okay, I was about to write Side A, Song 1 but it looks like it might have been Side B, Song 1. I guess I always played it upside-down. That was a dumb call on someone's part, but a killer song, wherever the hell it is on the album. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:42:22 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Re: My name is "Mr. Rogers", and I blame society On Mar 16, 2007, at 9:04 PM, Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > Tom Clark says: >> Speaking of which, some friends of mine were talking about setting up >> a private bittorrent network between, say three or four homes, where >> they would share their ripped movies and music. > > Damn hippie kids. Well, one of them is my surf-hippie friend from Encinitas, whom my daughter calls a "dirty hippie" because she doesn't know the difference between him and those muddy kids in the "Woodstock" movie. He's visiting next week and I'm dreading what she's going to say to his face. - -tc Hockey in HD + Maker's Mark + fegManiax = Crazy Delicious ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:50:49 -0700 From: Tom Clark Subject: Robyn digs Martha Wainwright, that is: http://www.chartattack.com/damn/2007/03/1605.cfm (down the page...) - -tc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 02:20:40 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: My name is "Mr. Rogers", and I blame society Tom Clark says: > Well, one of them is my surf-hippie friend from Encinitas, whom my > daughter calls a "dirty hippie" because she doesn't know the > difference between him and those muddy kids in the "Woodstock" > movie. He's visiting next week and I'm dreading what she's going to > say to his face. is there a missing link here...how did she go from surf-hippie to dirty hippie? (childhood perceptiveness perhaps.) what's a surf-hippie anyway? doesn't the sea wash off the dirt? although i guess you could have said the same of the rain at woodstock. i don't we have surf-hippies on this side. is it like sean penn in "fast times at ridgemont high"? enquiring minds want to know. xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 06:22:36 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: syd tribute with guests London's Barbican Hall hosts a special evening in May as a tribute to the late Syd Barrett. The event, on May 10th (the day before Roger Waters plays two nights at the capital's Earls Court as part of his DarkSide Of The Moon tour), promises special guests and rare film footage. Billed as "Madcap's Last Laugh" the event kicks off at 7:30pm and forms part of The Barbican's Only Connect series, which sets out to explore the boundaries where music, film and art meet. This special homage, curated with Barrett's first producer Joe Boyd, is said to feature "many special guests" performing Syd's songs as well as rare film footage, lighting effects and spoken word. As to who the guests will be, and what footage will be included, we don't know, as this has not been announced. Tickets for the event, priced at #15, #20 and #25, are now on sale _https://www.https://whttps://www. Subject: Re: Random note On Mar 16, 2007, at 10:24 AM, Rex wrote: > > Hmmm. I came to LA in '89 about the time of Janes' rise to almost- > fame (and > the first time the Chili Peppers "broke big", although they would > somehow do > so a couple more times, never did get that) and I had to try for > myself to > reconcile the actual countercultural heritage of LA (which is > considerable) > with the commercial stuff on every front (a process whichmay be the > very > definition of being an Angeleno, I guess), and nowhere was this > tougher than > in music. I moved to LA in 1988, and am fairly certain I lived in a different part of town than you did. A sleazier and dumber part, perhaps. But if you liked the combined odors of Sebastian's Spritz Forte and musty thrift-store velvet, hey, it was the place to be. > > Back to Jane's... if they were emblematic of So Cal culture at that > time > (and they sure were popular), they were probably coming from a > place of > tattoos and piercings that went so mainstream so shortly after I > arrived > here that I, like, missed it. It was in Beck and some of his > contemporaries > (that dog., Geraldine Fibbers, other totally forgotten artists of > the early > '90's) that I first recognized the LA zeitgeist of which I was a > part, for > better or worse (the Mike Watt axis, and of course X, being > grandfathered in > by association, social and aesthetic). Yeah, Jane's was absolutely emblematic of the LA culture I was a part of - or I should say, a certain group of people who were part of that culture. When I hear them, it still makes me feel like I'm 23, and I wasn't even a junkie or anything. (I did, however, refuse to leave my apartment without a wig, so there's that.) Guns n' Roses, too, in a different way, which I didn't really realize until I bought a $3 copy of "Appetite For Destruction" to educate the spouse about the culture of my youth (he claims he stopped listening to pop music the first time he heard a Bob Seger song on the radio, which I condone but do find somewhat extreme, and didn't start again until he started getting free copies of records his brother played on) and actually, we fully planned to mock it, but it wasn't half bad as it turned out. Both artists' work reminds me of a lot of people I knew then but didn't necessarily like that much. (This just reminded me for no reason of an aging, heavily-made-up rock dude I knew who tried to convince me that, among other implausible things, his awful, awful demo was currently #1 on the charts in France, and who later ran for mayor of LA. I totally went with him whenever he was out "campaigning," because it was hilarious. God, I was a bitch back then. Thank goodness there's an internet now and you can just mock people in the privacy of your own home and they never have to find out. Not that I'm suggesting he ever found out either. Anyway.) As for Beck, I was somehow completely oblivious to him and to that scene's existence, until the "Loser" video came out and gave me a near-uncontrollable urge to punch him in the face. Recovering hair-metal chick, out. Elizabeth ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 10:42:00 EDT From: HwyCDRrev@aol.com Subject: With fellow big names like Peter Buck and Robyn Hitchcock looking on _http://tinyurl.com/25n23l_ (http://tinyurl.com/25n23l) Earlier in the evening, Pete Townshend and his girlfriend, Rachel Fuller, presented a more subdued but even more ambitious series of collaborations with a special edition of their Attic Jam concert series at La Zona Rosa. With fellow big names like R.E.M. guitarist Peter Buck and Robyn Hitchcock looking on, the duo worked with a collection of younger artists -- including Martha Wainwright, Massachusetts troubadour Willy Mason, new British sensation Mika, British singer/songwriter Alexi Murdoch and Joe Purdy, a Los Angeles artist with whom Townshend performed a duet version of his solo hit "Let My Love Open The Door." Townshend, along with Fuller -- who likened the show to "a hootenanny" -- served generously as a sideman for portions of each artist's set, happily playing a support role even though his mere physical presence eclipsed anyone else on stage. For his own performances, Townshend dipped into the Who songbook, launching the evening with a solo acoustic rendition of "Drowned" from the "Quadrophenia" album. He then closed the show with a spare voice-and-piano version of "In The Ether" from the Who's latest album, "Endless Wire," and "I Can't Reach You," a Who chestnut from the '60s that he told the crowd, "not only have I never played in public, nobody I know has played this song in public." ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 12:52:36 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Re: Anywhere near Bath this Saturday? Steve Schiavo says: > Crowded House webcast. > > Has anyone seen Crowded House? I imagine they must put on very good live shows. I never had much interest in the band, but later ended up really loving Neil Finn's two solo albums "Try Whistling This" and "One All." I was very impressed the first time I saw him live. Ed Harcourt opened for him and for whatever reason, sounded terrible because of venue or soundperson sound problems. Then Mr. Finn and his band came out and were stunning. Mr. Finn put on a terrific performance and seemed like a real "seasoned professional" as they say. I saw him one other time either opening for or the other way around for a Rhett Miller solo show. Oh, and I have to confess that I find Mr. Finn terribly handsome: http://www.farewelltotheworld.com/photos.php?id=2 xo - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 10:10:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeff Dwarf Subject: Re: Anywhere near Bath this Saturday? Lauren Elizabeth wrote: > Has anyone seen Crowded House? I imagine they must put on very > good live shows. I saw them play a free show once at the Golden Gate Park bandshell, back during the very brief Tim Finn era. It was a good show, but you could definitely see how Tim was struggling with the role of non-frontman at times, especially at one point when he was trying to get the other guys to transition into a bit of "Rock the Casbah" during one the songs (I can't remember what song though). "I believe in the marketplace of ideas even if the other guy doesn't have any." -- Keith Olbermann "So this is what it's come to, these millions of years of evolution, warfare, community-building, women dying in childbirth with hope because their children might achieve more: a video on the Internet of a cat watching a video of a cat on the Internet." -- "Sylvar" . ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 18:03:01 +0000 From: michaeljbachman@comcast.net Subject: Re: Anywhere near Bath this Saturday? - -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Lauren Elizabeth" > Steve Schiavo says: > > Crowded House webcast. > > > > > > Has anyone seen Crowded House? I imagine they must put on very good > live shows. I never had much interest in the band, but later ended up > really loving Neil Finn's two solo albums "Try Whistling This" and > "One All." I was very impressed the first time I saw him live. Ed > Harcourt opened for him and for whatever reason, sounded terrible > because of venue or soundperson sound problems. Then Mr. Finn and his > band came out and were stunning. Mr. Finn put on a terrific > performance and seemed like a real "seasoned professional" as they > say. I saw him one other time either opening for or the other way > around for a Rhett Miller solo show. > Lauren, I have never seen Crowded House or Neil Finn live, but I will next time they tour stop in Michigan. Have you seem the Seven Worlds Collide DVD? It's quiet good and also pretty cheap. http://www.amazon.com/7-Worlds-Collide-Live-James/dp/B000060NUQ/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-4259946-3038202?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1174154419&sr=8-1 MJ Bachman ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 11:42:32 -0700 From: "Marc Holden" Subject: SXSW & the Roky Erickson Psychedelic Ice Cream Social Are there any updates about the shows on the 15th and 16th yet? I'd really like to know how things went with the Roky event. Between that and the Daniel Johnston sets over the last couple of days, wish I'd worked an Austin trip into my schedule. It sounds like it would have potentially been a really good time. Looks like we've completely skipped spring here. The official temperature yesterday was reported as 98 F (at the airport, where it tends to be slightly cooler than where I live and work in Tempe and Mesa), but the thermometers at my house and in my car both hit 102 F (38.9 C). More of the same is predicted today, more record setting winter heat. Marc "Kimberley's the only guy in the band who's got a degree...the rest of us have just got temperatures." Robyn Hitchcock ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 19:29:44 -0400 From: "Lauren Elizabeth" Subject: Happy, happy Hi Fegs, Happy St. Patrick's Day to all. xo Lauren, 1/4 Irish from father's side, ?? from mother's side (involves a cover-up by the English on her side!) - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "People with opinions just go around bothering one another." - The Buddha ------------------------------ End of fegmaniax-digest V16 #105 ********************************